July 8, 2008

Jukebox John changes his tune every few minutes

Update: This post has been updated and expanded.

Atrios mentioned yesterday, “…I don’t think the ‘Obama is a flip-flopper’ will be an especially useful line of attack for the McCain campaign, but it makes sense that they’re using it. The script is already written, making it easier for the barely literate cable newsers to run with it.”

Quite right. At first blush, the line of attack against Obama seems utterly ridiculous, but the McCain campaign seems to have settled on it anyway, in part because it’s the closest available, already-written Republican narrative, and in part because McCain staffers haven’t been able to think of anything else.

The irony, of course, is that the McCain campaign couldn’t have picked a more hypocritical line of attack. For John McCain to accuse anyone of excessively changing policy positions is a bit like George W. Bush attacking someone’s grammar. Or Dick Cheney whining about a political figure being overly secretive.

But if this is the game the McCain campaign wants to play, so be it. Let’s play. As the self-designated keeper of the Official List of McCain Flip-Flops, I’m pleased to report, thanks to reader contributions, we now have a whopping 61 policy reversals from the Republican nominee. If McCain wants to argue that flip-flops are an example of a political leader who can’t be trusted to keep his word or honor his commitments, McCain might as well drop out of the race now.

Based on some reader suggestions, we’re going to do things a little differently this time. Now, I’ve numbered the list and organized it by category for easier reference.

Remember, just two weeks ago, John McCain said, “This election is about trust and trusting people’s word.” Just a few days prior, the McCain campaign admonished Barack Obama for trying to “have it both ways” on issues.

And with that in mind…

National Security Policy

1. McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

2. McCain insisted that everyone, even “terrible killers,” “the worst kind of scum of humanity,” and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, “deserve to have some adjudication of their cases,” even if that means “releasing some of them.” McCain now believes the opposite.

3. He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

4. In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

5. McCain was for closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.

6. When Barack Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with predators, McCain criticized him for it. He’s since come to the opposite conclusion.

Foreign Policy

7. McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it.

8. McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

9. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

10. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

11. McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

12. McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

13. McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.

Military Policy

14. McCain recently claimed that he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”

15. McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good and a bad idea.

16. McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”

17. McCain has repeatedly said it’s a dangerous mistake to tell the “enemy” when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.

18. McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.

Domestic Policy

19. McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

20. McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

21. McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

22. He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

23. In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

24. McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

25. McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

26. McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.

27. McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.

28. McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

29. McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

30. In 2005, McCain endorsed intelligent design creationism, a year later he said the opposite, and a few months after that, he was both for and against creationism at the same time.

Economic Policy

31. McCain was against Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy before he was for them.

32. John McCain initially argued that economics is not an area of expertise for him, saying, “I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues; I still need to be educated,” and “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.” He now falsely denies ever having made these remarks and insists that he has a “very strong” understanding of economics.

33. McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal. And soon after that, McCain abandoned his second position and went back to his first.

34. McCain said in 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and falsely argued that he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

35. McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

36. McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”

37. McCain has changed his entire economic worldview on multiple occasions.

38. McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off economically than they were before Bush took office.

Energy Policy

39. McCain supported the moratorium on coastal drilling ; now he’s against it.

40. McCain recently announced his strong opposition to a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

41. McCain endorsed a cap-and-trade policy with a mandatory emissions cap. In mid-June, McCain announced he wants the caps to voluntary.

42. McCain explained his belief that a temporary suspension of the federal gas tax would provide an immediate economic stimulus. Shortly thereafter, he argued the exact opposite.

43. McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.

Immigration Policy

44. McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.

45. On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own bill.

46. In April, McCain promised voters that he would secure the borders “before proceeding to other reform measures.” Two months later, he abandoned his public pledge, pretended that he’d never made the promise in the first place, and vowed that a comprehensive immigration reform policy has always been, and would always be, his “top priority.”

Judicial Policy and the Rule of Law

47. McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.

48. McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

49. McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

Campaign, Ethics, and Lobbying Reform

50. McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.

51. In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

52. McCain supported a campaign-finance bill, which bore his name, on strengthening the public-financing system. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

Politics and Associations

53. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist John Hagee. Now he doesn’t. (He also believes his endorsement from Hagee was both a good and bad idea.)

54. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.

55. McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.

56. McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

57. McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.

58. In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

59. McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

60. McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.'” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

61. McCain believed powerful right-wing activist/lobbyist Grover Norquist was “corrupt, a shill for dictators, and (with just a dose of sarcasm) Jack Abramoff’s gay lover.” McCain now considers Norquist a key political ally.

And while I realize there are some who believe these constant flip-flops are irrelevant, I respectfully disagree.

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Discussion

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60 Comments
1.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:20 am, Ed said:

Wow, now if we can only boil that list down to a seven second sound byte so the vast majority of the mindless American electorate can digest it.

2.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:28 am, Polaris said:

Don’t you see – it doesn’t matter what McCain’s record on this is. He’s got the compliant airheads on cable news to repeat the lie and it could stick.

BTW Gloria Borger is an embarrassment.

3.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:30 am, Splitting Image said:

Y’know, I’ve heard a lot of people try to compare this election to some other year, usually because it makes Republicans feel better to portray Obama as another Dukakis, Carter, or Kerry.

If McCain keeps up this tactic, though, the narrative is inescapable: he will be George Bush Sr. versus the young challenger Bill Clinton.

If I recall correctly, Mr. “Read My Lips” tried to say that Clinton wanted to “have it both ways” on NAFTA because he said he supported it with reservations.

Didn’t work for Bush then, and it won’t work for McCain now. Mind you, it might have worked in 1992 had Bush not squandered his own political capital on the “No New Taxes” pledge, and it might have worked this year if the Republican nominee were Chuck Hagel or Ron Paul, both of whom have been much more consistent on the issues that seem to matter to them. Or even Mike Huckabee. Whatever else is wrong with those three, they could all win against a genuine “flip-flopper”.

Too bad for the Rs. They have the Straight Talk Express heading their team. How long do you think before Dolly Parton sues the guy for defaming one of her movies?

4.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:31 am, Patrick said:

John McCain is a Flip-Flopper extraordiniaire. He is a Flip-Flopper’s Flip-Flopper.

5.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:31 am, Arogue said:

The Secret Service considered her a threat

6.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:32 am, OkieFromMuskogee said:

Reality does indeed have a strong liberal bias.

Let’s all bookmark this link, and spread the word. We all know that if you repeat lies often enough, they become truth. Maybe it works for truth as well.

7.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:32 am, Jim said:

Librarian with McCain=Bush Sign Charged With Trespassing

McCain Camp Throws a 61 yr old Lady out of his event

Check the video of a 61 yr old lady on public property waiting in line for a McCain event that was open to the public.

She received a ticket for trespassing.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/07/librarian-with-mccainbush-sign-kicked-out-of-public-campaign-event/

http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/mccain-camp-throws-a-61-yr-old-lady-out-of-his-event/

8.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:35 am, dkm said:

I have taken to calling the rubber sandal like things you wear in a shower room or on the beach, McCains. I wonder if that can catch on.

9.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:36 am, ROTFLMLiberalAO said:

“Jukebox John”

He can turn on a dime….

10.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:40 am, doubtful said:

What’s a ‘jukebox?’ Is that like an iPod? 🙂

11.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Ohioan said:

Great job, Steve!

Love the numbering, organization, and prioritization!

Now it’s upto Obama’s communications director to distribute print this out and distribute.

12.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:56 am, ml johnston said:

Is the Pro McCain news media paying attention to this list ?

13.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:57 am, Elizabeth Moore said:

I knew he was a flip flopper, but this list blows my mind away. I printed the list so I can show everyone I know.

14.
On July 8th, 2008 at 11:57 am, Stevio said:

So what? This list is preaching to the choir. Why don’t you send it to Obama’s campaign and the NY Times, and the Washington Post (alla Glen Greenwald) or to the Money Bomb or to CNN or to Olberman, or to NBC, CBS, NBC, BBC and maybe even FOX Noise and tell them to shove it up their flip-flopping poop shoot. Until the “low information voter” gets this information, it’s worthless. Blogs like this are filled with like thinkers and the occasional neocon creep who is hired to infiltrate with posts meant to cause your poster’s stomach problems.If McAce ‘s record of flip flopping is hidden under Steve’s Basket it isn’t helpful…

15.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, Polaris said:

Stevio – exactly right

16.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, Carpetbagger said:

Why don’t you send it to Obama’s campaign and the NY Times, and the Washington Post (alla Glen Greenwald) or to the Money Bomb or to CNN or to Olberman, or to NBC, CBS, NBC, BBC and maybe even FOX Noise and tell them to shove it up their flip-flopping poop shoot.

Stevio raises a very important point, but I’d just add one thing.

I do my best to get the word out about these things, but self-promotion isn’t my strong suit. You guys, though, can and should feel free to help get the word out, too, among bloggers, reporters, forums, etc.

17.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, Franklin said:

Aren’t 51 and 53 the same issue?

18.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, CJ said:

Thanks CB!

I’m keeping this link to post on any blog I come across where somebody accuses Obama of being a flip-flopper. Hopefully, CB will be able to keep it updated.

19.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, Marko said:

#9 ROTFLMLiberalAO said:

“Jukebox John”

He can turn on for a dime….

There, fixed it.

20.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, Carpetbagger said:

Aren’t 51 and 53 the same issue?

Good catch, Franklin. I’ve corrected the list.

21.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, Bob R said:

McCain’s charge of a “flip-flop” is classic Rovism – he’s attacking Obama for precisely what he himself has done. The very fact that McCain’s charges are baseless serves his purpose. Now that the groundwork has been laid, the average low-information voter, when confronted with a list like the one above will respond “That’s just politics, everyone does it”.

22.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, Randomfactor said:

John McBush *LOVES* summer footwear. He can go through a pair of flip-flops a week.

23.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, Joe D said:

Its too bad that some 527 group like Move On couldn’t take this list and publish it as a full page ad in every major newspaper in the country, or at least in the battleground states.

24.
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, True said:

This is a thing of (depressing) beauty. Thank you; it’s very, very helpful.

25.
On July 8th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, Prup (aka Jim Benton) said:

Great, Steve. Now all you need to do is to keep it — and a couple of others — permanently linked to on the side bar.

The second would be a listing of Obama’s achievements, legislative and otherwise, to counteract the “Obama is nothing but a rock star” meme that is catching on. (Maybe a comparison of what he and McCain have actually accomplished?)

The third would be a series of posts responding to some of the criticisms Obama has received over his ‘associates’ — particularly Rev. Wright, because I want the whole text of The Sermon available so I can challenge people to read it in its entirety and then criticize it.

26.
On July 8th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, -daze said:

10. On July 8th, 2008 at 11:40 am, doubtful said:
What’s a ‘jukebox?’ Is that like an iPod?

yep. McCain has downloaded (simplified, grade-school talking-points versions) of all possible policy positions and his mind is now on shuffle.

or was that shuffleboard?

27.
On July 8th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, beep52 said:

“Steve, you are da man!” — beep52
“A whithering indictment of a straight-talker gone spiral.” — beep53
“A must read! A must circulate! A must tape-on-the-refrigerator” — beep54
“Nothing so tragic as an old man grasping for his young man’s dreams” — beep55
“This ain’t spin — this is a g–damned tornado!” — beep56
“I haven’t heard this much flip-flopping since Spring Week on the boardwalk!” — beep57
(The reviews just keep on pouring in)

28.
On July 8th, 2008 at 7:40 pm, Jenny said:

I’m not totally sure if this is a considered a flip flop, but I remember McCain saying he would not campaign for a 2nd term, but today his campaign mentioned that he would balance the budget by the end of his second term?

this mentions balancing the budget by the end of his 2nd term:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aN5HS20IUrug&refer=home
Yet in January, he said:
“You shouldn’t run for eight years. Because then you think you’ve got eight years to get these things done.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/02/mccain-to-serve-only-one-term/

to be fair, in the cnn blog, his campaign also contradicts his own quote. so who knows what the hell he really means anyway.

Maybe its kind of a “stretch”, but I feel like its a flipper.

29.
On July 8th, 2008 at 9:50 pm, zoe from pittsburgh said:

This really needs to be its own independent website– as of now http://www.jukeboxjohnmccain.com is NOT taken.

That way the MSM can refer to it, blogs and bloggy websites can promote it and people can add new submissions.

Any web-savy takers with a little time on their hands? It’s such a simple, straight forward counterattack and it could get a nice bit of publicity.

30.
On July 8th, 2008 at 10:51 pm, ff11 said:

This is all because McCain is such a Maverick he can’t even believe the same thing two days in a row.

31.
On July 9th, 2008 at 12:27 am, clmdiva said:

I am impressed with the dedication it took to get this done. I wish it could be mass produced and dropped on everyone’s doorstep. Good Job!

32.
On July 9th, 2008 at 3:11 am, lisak2008 said:

McCain flip-flopped-flopped on the privatization of social security yesterday on CNN. Now he’s against it. I will try to post a link to the video that I created on this, don’t know if it will work. If not, you can find the video of his interiew with John Roberts of CNN on the huffington post. The topic of social security comes up near the end of the video, just before Roberts asks him about his earmark that he says is not an earmark. When will the media start to vet this guy!!

[redlasso id=”c4b8059c-5165-4eb3-a577-14196414fe42″]

33.
On July 9th, 2008 at 3:15 am, lisak2008 said:

Let me try to link to the video of that flip-flop-flop again, McCain Flip-Flop-Flop on Privatization of Social Security

34.
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:54 am, Michael Moonshine said:

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/04/19/mccain.sc/
“When asked by a reporter how he felt about the Confederate flag during a January 12 campaign event, McCain replied: ‘Personally, I see the flag as symbol of heritage.’
“The Arizona senator expressed regret for that stance on Wednesday, telling the audience of Republicans: ‘I feared that if I answered honestly, I could not win the South Carolina primary. So I chose to compromise my principles. I promised to tell the truth always about my intentions and beliefs. I fell short of that standard in South Carolina,’ McCain said.”
John McCain has always been willing to debase himself when campaigning for the Presidency. That’s the real Straight Talk about John McCain.

35.
On July 9th, 2008 at 4:24 pm, krizten said:

Big Brother loves us, we’ve never been at war with Eastasia, we’ve always been at war with Eurasia, I should report you for crimethink, now if you’ll excuse me I need to go smoke a Victory Cigarette before it’s time for the Two Minutes Hate.

Anybody else feel like we’re living in a real life 1984? Or at least that McCain & co seem to think they can get away with the same kind of thought control the Party ran Oceania with?

36.
On July 9th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, Elizabeth Moore said:

Krizten, its funny you say that. I feel that way every day, and have since Bush took office without the popular vote. It really opened my eyes to what politics in our country really is. I try to keep from getting jaded, though.

37.
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, Catch22 said:

Didn’t McCain flip back again on number 48? Is he doing anything to force telecoms to explain their role at all?

You should point out Iraq a lot more, there are good sources from this blog.

McCais was for reducing our visibility in Iraq as soon as possible before he was against it.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15370.html
“But as soon as we can reduce our visibility as much as possible, the better I think it is going to be.” Jan 2005

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6982732.stm
The US should reduce its troop presence in Iraq so as not to appear an “occupying force”, a key 20-member US security commission has recommended….But Republican Sen John McCain chided “armchair generals” in Washington who failed to “trust the judgement” of the military leaders on the ground. September 2007

McCain has been for seeing Iraq like Germany Japan and South Korea before he was against it and for it again.
http://www.democrats.org/a/2008/04/john_mccains_de.php
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15370.html

McCain used to say that the religion of Iraq made a long term presence unworkable and then was agains it.
As recently as November 2007, McCain told Charlie Rose that the “nature of the society in Iraq and the religious aspects of it” make that an unworkable solution. Today, John McCain rejects that same criticism. [Huffington Post, 4/28/08;}
http://www.democrats.org/a/2008/04/john_mccains_de.php

38.
On July 11th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, Joe Smith said:

Did you know that if you don’t answer the anti-spam question but hit the submit button that you will lose all of your text that you wrote? Not at all user friendly. Please fix this.

I will not repeat what I wrote but here is a summary.

Bullet 24 is incorrect. McCain has ZERO earmarks, Obama has over 50 in his short career. You need to remove bullet 24 it is incorrect.

What you can add is that McCain wants to balance the budget by keeping Bush’s extensive tax cuts in place, continuing the war and removing the AMT. Impossible. So much for the straight talk express.

Joe.

39.
On July 11th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, Joe Smith said:

I need to make a slight correction.
When I talke about earmarks I am looking at year 2008 only.
John McCain has 0
Obama has over 50.

See Citiizens against government waste:
http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2008_database

Joe

40.
On July 11th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, Brianr said:

And a digging you shall have!

41.
On July 11th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, Fred said:

I’d much rather have a rock star (Obama) than an old coot with rocks in his head (McSame as Bush)

42.
On July 11th, 2008 at 2:29 pm, gnomic said:

It would be useful it this list was revised with more specific dates in the narrative.

But yes, Mcbush flip flops like a dying fish. And his policies smell about the same.

43.
On July 11th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, Bea said:

dkm, I LOVE it. I’m going to start calling my flip flops “McCains!”

44.
On July 11th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, LFC said:

You need to actually add TWO more McCain flip-flops, both on Social Security.

One (which was pointed out above) concerns privatization, which McCain now says he’s against. Yet back in 2004, he was for it. Here’s the YouTube video from veracifier.com showing his flip-flop from 2004.

2004: “Without privatization, I don’t see how you can possible, over time, make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security benefits.”

2008: “I do not and will not privatize Social Security, but it’s broken…” He then goes on to reiterate that he doesn’t support privatization, but he’d like younger workers to be able to “put some of their tax dollars into an account with their name on it”, which is the very definition of privatization floated by Bush in 2005.

The other flip-flop (though perhaps it’s just a flat out lie) is what he meant by his disgrace comment the other day. There is a good follow -up on his views of exactly how Social Security was designed to work.

McCain on at the Town Hall Meeting: “Americans have got to understand that we are paying present-day retirees with the taxes paid by young workers in America today. And that’s a disgrace. It’s an absolute disgrace, and it’s got to be fixed.”

McCain on CNN the Next Day: “”Let’s describe [Social Security] for what it is. They pay their taxes and right now their taxes are going to pay the retirement of present-day retirees. That’s why it’s broken, that’s why we can fix it.”

McCain After the Storm Hit: Says young people “are paying so much that they are paying into a system that they won’t receive benefits from on its present track that it’s on — that’s the point.”

Really, John? That’s the point? I’m sorry, but I thought you were speaking English.

45.
On July 11th, 2008 at 6:11 pm, Tremonius said:

It’s a thorough list, but not complete, as Johnny Carson used to say to Ed Backupman.

62) He swore self-righteously he would never campaign negatively. Immediately he began trashing Senator Obama in every sentence he utters.

63) He claimed he would never use his military service for political gain, yet he runs ads constantly starring himself as hero. (His gang reacts hysterically to the slightest hint of criticism of this hero, but, as long as they bring it up, his collaboration in Vietnam should be a topic of discussion. He admits to broadcasting propaganda for the enemy, which is the reason Axis Sally went to prison. Now it appears he provided some very helpful data to the enemy, which caused loss of life among his erstwhile companions.) Too bad the press is so free to follow their own favorite narratives.

46.
On July 11th, 2008 at 6:23 pm, Marie said:

Excellent compilation. Really usefull. Thanks

47.
On July 11th, 2008 at 11:32 pm, James said:

You all should know about http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/. Take a look and spread the word.

48.
On July 12th, 2008 at 7:31 am, Korkie said:

My suggested is the cut and paste these flip flops in a mail to each of the media journalist, especially Lou Dobbs and those of FOXTV, and ask why they are not reporting
‘the news .. fair and balanced’

Someone mentioned a ‘seven second’ sound byte. Something like that would be great
to put on youtube, and send off to various MSM.

Any techies around?

49.
On July 12th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, Matthew said:

Hey c’mon, cut McCain some slack. Look at how successful it’s made him. He’s losing Arizona now

Laugh at John McCain now children.

50.
On July 13th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, Richard Luken said:

I’d like to suggest a song for John’s Juke-Box:

McCain (to the tune of Cocaine by Eric Clapton*)

Bush is out of the Game, but for More of the Same: McCain!
They both shout till they’re hoarse, “We got to Stay the Course!”: McCain
(with heavy irony) He don’t lie. He don’t lie. He don’t lie. McCain!
(alternative with NO irony) He tells lies, He tells lies. He tells lies. McCain!

(So) Army morale is gone, but you want to fight on?: McCain!
Iraqis love us, ya hear; we’ll stay a hundred years: McCain!
(with heavy irony) He don’t lie. He don’t lie. He don’t lie. McCain!

Exxon wants the oil, so our soldiers toil: McCain!
So there’s amputees? We want our SUVs!: McCain!
(with heavy irony) He don’t lie. He don’t lie. He don’t lie. McCain!

The Economy’s down? we need more Trickle Down!: McCain!
The banks put us in a ditch? Give tax breaks to the Rich!: McCain!
(with heavy irony) He don’t lie. He don’t lie. He don’t lie. McCain!

People lose their homes? They shouldn’t bitch and moan: McCain!
Phil Grahm is doing fine: he says “shut up, don’t whine”: McCain!
(with heavy irony) Don’t you whine. Don’t you whine. Don’t you whine: McCain!
(alternative with NO irony) He tells lies, He tells lies. He tells lies. McCain!

Bush is out of the Game, but for More of the Same: McCain!
Keep the country down, down on the ground: McCain!
(with heavy irony) He don’t lie. He don’t lie. He don’t lie. McCain!
(alternative with NO irony) He tells lies, He tells lies. He tells lies. McCain!

51.
On July 13th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, Richard Luken said:

Sorry, I misspelled “Foreclosure Phil’s” name: It’s “Gramm.”

Mea Culpa. Mea Culpa. Mea Maxima Culpa.

52.
On July 13th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, Maha said:

He’s not a flip-flopper. He’s old and senile. Cut him some slack.

53.
On July 14th, 2008 at 9:07 am, El Guapo said:

Would you rather have someone who never changed his views? Maybe McCain alters his position when he is convinced by new information that his old beliefs were wrong. Sticking to a policy is not an attribute of great leadership unless you challenge that policy repeatedly and repeatedly find it to be the right choice. To not change one’s mind in the face of new information is being stubborn and nothing more.

54.
On July 14th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, BillSadler3 said:

The song “Cocaine” was written by J.J. Cale, who also wrote “After Midnight” and “Call Me the Breeze.” He was also a huge influence on Clapton’s mellower side.

John McCain is a career whish-washer. I just wish he’d go away.

55.
On July 14th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, jason said:

Here’s a 7 second sound bite. “John McCain is either lying or suffering from Dementia.”

56.
On July 15th, 2008 at 1:02 am, wally said:

Watch Senator John closely. He appears to have early memory problems. What would we do if we have a president with early Alzheimer’s disease as we did in 1985-8? Would we let his wife govern as apparently Nancy did (with a little help from her astrologer)???

57.
On July 15th, 2008 at 10:20 am, Pete Porzitski, Nashville Tennessee, USA said:

John McCain used to be a maverick. he used to support positions that the mainstream GOP does not find palatable. An outsider looking in.
Then he got serious about the White House. A person serious about winning the Presidency must adapt and compromise, especially if the bulk of his or her party is afraid of the candidate, and reluctant to commit to him because he is not mouthing the same panaceas they are used to hearing. This seems to be especially true with the GOP, but also characterizes the Democratic party.
So, in order to get elected, you must turn your back on the issues that brought you political fame to begin with and get in bed with those you have spent your career excoriating and loathing.
Right.

58.
On July 24th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird War Criminal McCorrupt said:

Can someone change my Depends and all Crybaby Cons diapers?

Obama is the new Reagan! Tons of Republican will vote for him.

1. Why would a “war hero” refuse to release his Complete Military Records? What is he hiding? Kerry signed the Form 180 waiver and released all of his records. Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Make it a Hundred Traitor War Criminal McBush refuses to do so. Why?
2. He received numerous demerits at the US Naval Acadamy and graduated 894 out of 899. His 4 star Admiral daddy pulled strings to get him into the Academy. Daddy helped him become a pilot in the Navy despite his despicable record of alcoholism, drug use and womanizing at the academy.
3. He admitted to collaborating with the enemy providing them with military targets, operations and plans.
4. He killed 168 US sailors on the USS Forrestal being a hotdog idiot, and his 4 star Admiral daddy promptly
transferred him to another ship
5. He admitted to being a War Criminal on 60 Minutes, 1997, CBS News,for bombing innocent women and children
6. Why did the Vietnamese give him the codename Songbird?
7. He made dozens of Anti-American videos for the enemy denouncing America.
8. Why did the Vietnamese erect a bust in his honor?
9. All Republicans in Congress voted to release government records of POW/MIA on Vietnam, only 1 person blocked it, Old Fart Songbird Traitor McBush. Why did he want those records sealed?
10. Wouldn’t the Navy wash his records? His father and grandfather were both 4 star admirals in the Navy.
11. How did he receive medals which required 2 eyewitnesses when there were none?
12. How did he get 28 medals in less than 20 hours of combat? Did his 4 star admiral daddy give him medals he did not deserve? Some grunts fighting on the ground for 7000 hours received no medals
13. He told his captors he was the son of a 4 star Admiral who was the head of Pacific Military Operations to receive special preferential treatment and medical care, violating Military Code of Conduct.
14. There is no evidence he was tortured
15. There is no evidence his plane was shotdown. He was an incompetent pilot having crashed 4 other Naval planes previously.
16. He also violated military uniform code of conduct by having numerous sexual relations with subordinates, a crime.
17. He was not eligible to be released as a POW based on military protocol, the oldest POW is released first.
18. Daddy helped get him jobs in DC after he returned.
19. Immediately, upon returning he started having sexual affairs while still married with 2 kids, gold digging until he snagged rich Cindy whose daddy owned the 2nd largest Budweiser distributorship.
20. Why does he want to stay in Iraq forever? Research his Lobbyists and their clients, especially, Rick Davis and Charle Black.
21. Some Vietnam Vets believe he is the Manchurian Candidate, do some research on that.

Google these to learn more

McCain Songbird
McCain Adultery
McCain Lobbyists
McCain Charlie Black
McCain USS Forrestal
McCain Rick Davis
McCain Temper
McCain Infidelity
McCain Phil Gramm
McCain Enron Loophole
McCain Arizona Mob
McCain Kosovo Muslims
McCain Fortune
McCain Traitor
McCain Flip Flops
McCain Torturers’ Lobby
McCain Manchurian

If Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor McCorrupt wins, his administration will be the most corrupt in history.

Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal Terrorist McCorrupt?

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