Noises Off: Democratic Candidates are No-Shows for Mukasey Vote

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Antifa Richtoffen said:

Playing Whom? Playing to Whom?
Your average lefty out here would expect a "leader of the Democratic Party" like a Presidential candidate to at least vote NO on this crook Mukasey.

That none of them did so shows that they are not playing to the Democratic ranks. They are playing them for fools who will vote in lockstep for the Dem nominee -- and Dem ticket -- no matter what. The Dem base is in the corner pocket already.

These Dem candidates are playing to the disaffected GOP voters, and to Independent voters, who actually hold in their minds the choices of voting at all, of voting for one or the other party. They need to be shown that these Dem candidates are not voting against "respectable men" of the Empire.

November 09, 2007
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Thomas Mc said:

	What did you expect from the DINOcrats? Why anyone would ever vote DINOcrat again is beyond me.
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Donald L. Smith said:

"That's Entertainment!"
With a keen eye toward the ever running polls, the candidates dispense with any confusing ideas. They step onto the stage and the lights come up, the music swells, and ta-da!
another show is on the boards.
With simplistic fervor they speak in generalities, careful to avoid any mention of the bodies that are hidden all about the theater.
With a toss of the head, a bright, optimistic smile, a few more hands shaken, a few more babies kissed, another performance is in the books.
The script is the same for all the candidates, only a tiny difference in style or appearance can be seen by the groundlings, and this similarity comfirms them in their comfort zone.
Hamlet told where the body was, as he was concerned it might begin to smell.
These actors are without any sensibility, or sense.

November 09, 2007
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mistah charley, ph.d. said:

josh marshall at "talking points memo"

First, our reporters are digging into the Mukasey confirmation story, trying to find out just what went down yesterday, what the deal was that Reid held out for, how it was exactly that the presidential candidates didn't get back or weren't given enough time to get back for the vote. So this one's particularly for our regulars up on Capitol Hill. Drop us a line, confidentiality guaranteed, and let us know what you know. I hear that at least some of the presidentials got little or no warning that the vote was imminent.

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kim said:

	CNN analysisl on Senate votes CNN had an analysis on Senate votes by the candidates & they missed from 60-80% of votes (approx) the poll might be on their website
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bdr said:

	Poof So much for Phenomenom: The Dodd. Wonder if all those who sent nickels to his campaign after his grandstanding feel properly punked.
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Bolo said:

	Quick Note: Biden is from Delaware, not Rhode Island :).
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November 09, 2007
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Fade said:

	No Progressive should vote for ANY of th In a nation full of 23r;s, I EXPECT the 76r;s to understand that this SHOULD MEAN THAT NONE OF THESE PEOPLE DESERVE TO be President. But, oh these unreasonable expectations... Hillary IS A REPUBLICAN. Anyone who supports her is as blind as the bushbots.
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Chris Floyd said:

	... Yikes, sorry for the Biden mistake. Writing in too much of a hurry. Thanks for catching that egregious error, and my apologies for making it.
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Donald L. Smith said:

	Senate Vote Heard on the radio that Reid had told all the candidates that Tue-Thur. were voting days in the Senate. This is not new, the campaign trail must greater allure to these solons, is all.
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November 09, 2007
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scott douglas said:

everything is triangularally GREAT!
This is more disgusting to me than almost anything else the Democrats have done - or failed to do - in the last year.

You are correct to highlight it, Chris.

This is beyond even my la-la tendency towards hope to explain.

Strategy? No - torture.

Triangulation toward a solid majority?

No - dictatorship.

I don't know what to say about it.

I raised my voice about it several times today, at work (very dangerous) and in a social setting. Mixed results: Not totally negative, actually. But I got the clear feeling that people are so isolated and feel so impotent that they would prefer not to address the issues.

If there were a third party, simply dedicated to restoring the Constitution...sorry; pipe dream...It would be fettered by all the diverse expectations such a broad concept would attract in it's adherents...

When the shit really hits the fan (Iran: March 15, 2008?), then we will see if there is any Independence left in the American people. And only then.

You never know.

Scott

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Rational Realist said:

Now contrast to the far better Kucinich
Neither of whom are Senators (though Gravel once was), but are both far more principled than these sell-outs.
Is it time for people to wonder about what the Council on Foreign Relations is doing in all those secret meetings where the 'electable' of both parties, CEO's and national press get together yet? Or do we wait for a full dictatorship before that becomes a reasonable question?

November 09, 2007
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thebigerns said:

What I don't want to hear...
I wrote to Chris Dodd's campaign and pointedly asked for an explanation. I'm one of those "punked" contributors bdr mentioned.

I haven't heard any of them explain why they didn't follow through with their outspoken opposition. In Dodd's case his website is still rolling a banner which quotes him as planning to vote against Mukasey -- how sad. When they start explaining, I do not want to hear the whiny Dem mantra of We just don't have enough votes, so let's not do anything and let them have whatever they want...

November 09, 2007
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Benedict@Large said:

	Huh? 40 votes against confirmation even without the four candidates? Hey! Isn't that enough for a filibuster? What's that you say? Cloture was unanimous? So if the 40 who voted against had also voted against cloture, ... But not a single one did. Cowards. Liars. Rogues. Can I vote for my cat?
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November 09, 2007
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The Wendigo said:

blah blah blah
with 47 Republicans voting for Mukasey, only 4 Democrats had to vote for him and the others could sit back and pretend at "objecting."

yet during the whole process, where were the Democrats?

- how did they let Mukasey get through nomination clearing?

- how did they let the examination of Mukasey go so soft-pedaling easy?

- where where the "objecting" Democrats when they had the chance to get up and recite Mukasey's horrific record, his patheic jurisprudence, his obnoxious philosophy and ideology?

- how many Democrats entered matters of objectionable Mukasey material into the Congressional Record?

- how many held press conferences or sent out lots of mailings related to Mukasey's horrible opinions?

no, they all just waited for the "vote" and pretended that the vote is the only thing they're in Congress to do. nothing else. just vote. just show up and vote.

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Arthur James said:

	Chris Floyd is from Tennessee. Floyd makes a noise. He goes Off. Blows a bamboo flute. Ah! How hideously shivering cold this world would be if Chris would stop tootin' to inform us the real news. Sing blues. O, gads and gadszooks for a few tuned in journalist. O, you pout saucily good. Thanks to your Mom and Dada.
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November 10, 2007
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47.EEG.68891 said:

Democratic Nay Votes
No Republicans voted NAY.

November 7, 2007
Mukasey Nomination

YEAs…………. 53
NAYs…………. 40

Nay Votes :

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Source :

http://www.senate.gov/legislat...ll_lists/
roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00407

November 10, 2007
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aurigara8 said:

	... bdr: I got punked by Dodd too. No more.
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Joshwa "Micah" Marshmellow said:

	I'm a fraud I pretend to be all up in arms about this shit, but I can't even mention one thing about impeachment. Chris Floyd, you put me to shame: http://www.chris-floyd.com/Articles/Articles/ Collusion_Course:_Dems_Play_Impeachment_Farce_as_Republ ic_Burns/
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Wendell Bell said:

This is more than a little unfair
According to Greg Sargent's reporting at www.tpmelectioncentral.com, Reid set the schedule so late that the four candidates out in the field couldn't get back in time for the roll-call-vote--and Reid wouldn't hold the vote until they could get back.

Since there was to be no filibuster, since the 60-votes-to-pass caper that the Repubs play all the time wasn't going to be invoked, since the deal was to rush Mukasey through in exchange for a deal to pass the military appropriations bill without Iraq funding, and since the four were already known "no" votes, their presence or absence really didn't make a whit of difference.

That's sad to say, but that's the way it was. For this, blame Reid, and the way he chose to play his cards--not the candidates. I am surprised--I thought people from Nevada were better card players than that (some are!). For this, don't blame the candidates; there's plenty else to blame/chastise them for.

November 10, 2007
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Donald L. Smith said:

	defence del- checked out the link, chased a few more, you are right, this is more shadows on the wall of the cave... The Dems are killing time playing image defence with the Repugs, "We do too support the troops!" Time is not all that is being killed.
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November 10, 2007
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The Wendigo said:

dell is so damned wrong it hurts
dell would like us to believe that Harry Reid is almighty and can prevent the world from knowing things -- or at least his fellow Congressmen -- but that Josh Marshmallow and his cadre of DNC/DLC dupes can get the true story?

Give me a phukkin' break, dell. Really. You and Josh "Total Piss Management" Micro Marshmallow are pathetically deluded and you are bending over backward to "rescue" your noble and saintly heroes by blaming it all on Harry Reid.

Please, go try that gambit at Daily Kos.

Please.

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The Wendigo said:

	If you value the writing of Chris Floyd. Then please take a moment to consider what I'm proposing here: http://cbfz.blogspot.com/2007/...posal.html
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lmab said:

	They didn't know the vote was coming? How could it be that I, out here in fly-over land, with a full-time job not as a senator, and two kids that keep me quite busy in my non-job-working hours, knew days ahead of time that the vote was going to be taken and the probable day it would happen? This excuse really takes the cake.
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Big Dan said:

47 of 47 Republicans Vote For Torturer C
Here's the votes:

In committee, Democrats voted for Mukasey 2-8, Republicans in committee voted 9-0. That's 11-8 to send it for full vote. 2 traitorous Democrats, and 100% lockstep Republican Party traitors 9-0.

Then the full vote was: Democrats for Mukasey 6-40, Republicans 47-0 for Mukasey. 6 traitorous Democrats and 100% Nazi lockstep Republicans 47-0. With, as you say, 4 non-vote Democrats (which is just as bad as the traitorous 6).

My point is this: No one even MENTIONS 47-0 entire GOP!!! Because we EXPECT the GOP to vote for torture!!! The 6 4 Dems are getting crucified everywhere (which they should) in the CMSM, internet, everywhere...and the 47-0 GOP'ers no one says anything...because we "expect" them to vote this way??? Well, that's not OK!!! By me!!!

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Big Dan said:

	... The 2 Dems in committe voting for torture were Schumer & Feinstein...who's husband is making $$$ off the war...and Schumer is a two-face bastard!
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Sheila S Hamlett Waller said:

Surprised?
In our latest episode of Congressional Kabuki, the Vichy Whores inadvertantly exposed the truth: we live in an horrific dictatorship of plutocratic psychotics. That so many people still believe in the high-paid shills in Congress, is profoundly comic to me. On all of the other "progressive" or "liberal" blogs, so many play the endless circle jerk game, whistling in the dark, spinning endless webs of futile Machiavellian speculation about their darling Dems' imitation of governance. They pretend the Democrats really embrace the Bill of Rights, hate Imperialistic warcrimes, and want to restore responsible government to "the people", and are just biding their time until the next election cycle to perform miracles. Meanwhile, EVERY DAY, their faces get ground into the fact that the Democratic party have enabled the elimination of every right we have, while protecting the criminals who shred them, and have voted to continue the Iraq genocide and expand it to Iran. Now, they have just approved an AG who embraces presidential "absolutism" and State-run torture, but were unable to override a veto to expand health insurance for the children of the middle class, that same group that is the Dems' strongest base. But they still look hopefully to 2008, the present being unbearable, for the world to be created anew, and a glorious dawn of Freedom to be ushered in by those same people who lie in our faces on an hourly basis, who are unable to give relief to the 100,000 displaced Katrina victims, or address any national crisis in any productive, or even sane, way.
Chris is one of the very few, to tell it as it really is: America, as we know it, has been destroyed, and only the people themselves can restore it.

Wendigo, I support your excellent idea, BTW. GO FOR IT! And I think everyone here would agree with me. I hope they check out your site.

November 10, 2007
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The Wendigo said:

Big Dan's theory.
Big Dan's theory is that "lesser evil" matters.

Big Dan is wrong about this.

But that won't ever sink in with Big Dan. He's too convinced that the Democrats are worth voting for. He's too busy trying to help the DLC and DNC get more votes. He really ought to be hanging out at Daily Kos, where his arguments would be greeted with flowers, applause and leftovery Halloween candy.

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The Wendigo said:

	for Big Dan Dan, you need to read a few things before you continue on in this Quixotic venture of yours. http://powerofnarrative.blogsp...l-now.html http://www.chris-floyd.com/Art...he_Sacred _Right_to_Torture/ http://powerofnarrative.blogsp...w-our.html http://cbfz.blogspot.com/2007/...1-psa.html
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Arthur James said:

	Don't rampage the barn I guess you are sad that you sent last foulest penny to help the politicians kill? Don't remortgage the outhouse. Politicians and the Press bloody stink.
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November 11, 2007
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AlanSmithee said:

So what?
No, really. So-the-fuck-what?

TPM & DKo$ & the rest of the pwoggie blogs still have a year to sell you on 'the lesser evil' and, as everyone know, you'll buy it in the end. Shit, by Christmas you won't even remember who Mukasey is. Maybe New Years, tops

Besides, you don't have a choice in the matter and you certainly don't have the guts to do the hard work. Why not write about cars or celebrities or something? Keep yourself occupied until it's time to vote for Hillary, and you will vote for Hillary, there's abso-tootly-ootly no doubt about that.

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Chris Floyd said:

...
Oh yeah man, DKos has such a great influence on me, it's a well-known historical fact that this blog takes its marching orders from the Orange Leader himself. We're tight, you know, Kos and me, real good buds. He says jump, I say, how high? What else can I do, being so gutless and all? I mean, I've certainly not been denouncing Bush – and the Democrats – for years on end, in public forums, in print, on line, all over the world, using my own real name instead of a cutesy moniker, putting my livelihood on the line, getting threats against my life, my children, weirdos staking out my parents' home, etc etc. No, I've just been cowering in the corner, waiting for Kos and Josh to give me instructions. Sure, I've been railing againt Hillary Clinton over and over here, but yeah, I'd say by Christmas I will definitely be on board the Clinton express. Hell, I've already forgotten who Mukasey is; wasn't he the dad on Everybody Loves Raymond?

You're right; I should just give up this politics stuff and spend my time writing about, oh, say, "sucky" horror films or something. That's abso-tootly-ootly part of the hard work we should all be doing to change things, if we weren't all just gutless automatons following the pwoggie line.

November 12, 2007
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Arthur James said:

	chris: ..."good buds..." A good rusty can of bud wiser to you. It's left over from the war I saved. So-get off line from readog Kos-sip. You read 'cause ya's care. A dog eat it's own upchucked vomit- yuck.
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The Wendigo said:

Is Alan Smithee for real?
Alan Smithee, what ghost are you chasing with that comment? The ghost of some fabricated Kossack that you have mistaken for Mr Floyd or the majority of those who comment here? Or did you read Big Dan's comment and believe that came from Mr Floyd? Or what?

Normally I agree with Smithee on his complaints about the "pwoggies" because he's usually correct on them. But this time he seems to have confused Mr Floyd with the "pwoggies" and I don't see the track record to support the accusation when it's levelled against Chris Floyd.

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AlanSmithee said:

Sure!
That's a good idea, Chris. Write about bad movies or something. It'll give you something to do until it's time to tow the pwoggie line. A hobby of sorts.

Remember all that bluster on the pwoggie blogs in '04? How it all turned into 'hold your nose and vote for Kerry' crap a couple months before the election? Why waste time with thud and blunder nobody believes for a second anyway?

Everyone pwogs will vote the party line and send their check in to MoveOn or the PDA or what-the-fuck-ever useless pwoggie dipshit org is the flavor of the month. Why knock yourself out?

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