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<![CDATA[May the 4th be with you!<br />(Star Wars Day) <img src="Smileys/extended/rofl.gif" alt="&#58;rofl&#58;" title="ROFL" class="smiley" /><br />]]>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 14:35:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 05:00:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: Kaleo Arms</title>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=58752.msg514804#msg514804">Quote from: KaleoArms on May 02, 2026, 01:39:00 PM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Hi! Yes, I got your email from yesterday. Just answered it. <br /><br />As mentioned by others, our business model is a little different for ammunition. Most of the ammunition orders are invoiced through email requests but sometimes we do put ammunition online. The online ammunition will show an estimated pallet departure date from the Midwest. From the estimated departure, it takes about 2-2.5 weeks for ammunition to be delivered to Hawaii via truck/ocean/UPS. UPS does the final mile delivery intra-Oahu. Your order came in the day after the April pallet departed. At any rate, given my miscommunication, I have canceled and refunded your order. <br /><br />For everyone else reading this post, our next pallet will depart around May 12 with estimated delivery by UPS towards the end of May. Additional ammunition for this pallet will be added online by Wednesday but we are still doing the requests also. <br /><br />Thanks! And please feel free to reach out with any questions!!<br /><br />Jennifer<br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br /><br /><br />Thank you for the information and refund. First time ordering from your company and assumed the webpage showed stock on hand especially after placing the order it was then removed from the on line availability. Is there any way to know when orders are due or shipments are being planned to be shipped to Hawaii? I did not see it on the webpage when I placed my order. In any case, hopefully I will be able to place an order in the future. <br />Mahalo]]>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2026 21:50:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2026 11:32:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: suddently not getting email notifications for private messages and post replies</title>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=57494.msg514805#msg514805">Quote from: macsak on May 02, 2026, 01:58:11 PM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">i texted site owner...<br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br />Thank you sir! ]]>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2026 00:17:05 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[i texted site owner...<br /><br /><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=57494.msg514800#msg514800">Quote from: RifleArts on May 02, 2026, 12:12:20 PM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Need help with the same please<br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 23:58:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: Kaleo Arms</title>
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<![CDATA[Hi! Yes, I got your email from yesterday. Just answered it. <br /><br />As mentioned by others, our business model is a little different for ammunition. Most of the ammunition orders are invoiced through email requests but sometimes we do put ammunition online. The online ammunition will show an estimated pallet departure date from the Midwest. From the estimated departure, it takes about 2-2.5 weeks for ammunition to be delivered to Hawaii via truck/ocean/UPS. UPS does the final mile delivery intra-Oahu. Your order came in the day after the April pallet departed. At any rate, given my miscommunication, I have canceled and refunded your order. <br /><br />For everyone else reading this post, our next pallet will depart around May 12 with estimated delivery by UPS towards the end of May. Additional ammunition for this pallet will be added online by Wednesday but we are still doing the requests also. <br /><br />Thanks! And please feel free to reach out with any questions!!<br /><br />Jennifer ]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 23:39:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=58752.msg514798#msg514798">Quote from: RifleArts on May 02, 2026, 11:51:19 AM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Anyone know how long usually they take to respond to an order / ship? Put in an order on April 18th no response. Tried to call, message, email no response. Are these guys still in business? If not I need to call my bank for a refund. <br /><br />If anyone knows this business please DM me the real contact. <br /><br />Thanks<br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>@RifleArts<br /><br />yes they are still in business.&nbsp; I suspect your order might be on the mid-May pallet.&nbsp; They ship by truck from North Dakota to the west coast, and then by boat to Hawaii.&nbsp; I&#39;d guess ETA about June-ish.&nbsp; I have some ammo coming in on the May pallet.&nbsp; They have pallets being shipped to Hawaii maybe every other month, sometimes more often, sometimes less often, depending on demand.<br /><br />I guess you weren&#39;t aware of how their business operates when you placed your order?&nbsp; They ship from the mainland.&nbsp; I guess we&#39;re so used to internet ordering, click-click-buy-buy, and then it gets delivered 3 days later.&nbsp; This is different. <br /><br />You mentioned an April 18th order-date, so I think that puts you on the mid-May shipment.&nbsp; I&#39;m kind of surprised they&#39;re still showing ammo on their website, must be some inventory they brought in for a gun-show, or something.&nbsp; Usually there&#39;s nothing there.<br /><br />lots of details in the other thread.<br /><br /><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=44197.80" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=44197.80</a>]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 22:50:57 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=42192.msg514801#msg514801">Quote from: jc2721 on May 02, 2026, 12:30:14 PM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">No forget da Lays potato chips<br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>...<br />...and Campbell&#39;s tomato soup!!<br />Maybe soda crackers too.]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 22:43:58 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=42192.msg514797#msg514797">Quote from: oldfart on May 02, 2026, 07:33:20 AM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">World Tuna Day.<br /><br />Will make tuna sandwich for lunch...a local tradition. <br />Coral tuna in oil with Best Foods mayo and some sweet pickle relish on Loves bread. <img src="Smileys/extended/cheesy.gif" alt="&#58;D" title="Cheesy" class="smiley" /><br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>No forget da Lays potato chips]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 22:30:14 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=57494.msg508059#msg508059">Quote from: macsak on October 01, 2025, 12:25:55 PM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">should be working now.,.<br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br />Need help with the same please]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 22:12:20 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Kaleo Arms</title>
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<![CDATA[Anyone know how long usually they take to respond to an order / ship? Put in an order on April 18th no response. Tried to call, message, email no response. Are these guys still in business? If not I need to call my bank for a refund. <br /><br />If anyone knows this business please DM me the real contact. <br /><br />Thanks]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 21:51:19 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[World Tuna Day.<br /><br />Will make tuna sandwich for lunch...a local tradition. <br />Coral tuna in oil with Best Foods mayo and some sweet pickle relish on Loves bread. <img src="Smileys/extended/cheesy.gif" alt="&#58;D" title="Cheesy" class="smiley" /><br />]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 17:33:20 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: GUN MEME THREAD</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 10:33:59 GMT</pubDate>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 04:38:31 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re:  Sad Update for Aero Precision</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[too bad I like Aero lowers. I only use those. easy to put together]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:28:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: Free Stop the Bleed classes through June 2026</title>
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<![CDATA[I attended the Stop the Bleed class today. It was on the top floor conference center of the Honolulu Airport Interisland parking lot. I didn&#39;t know that place existed. Class was free and 1 1/2hrs long going over tournaquets, direct pressure, and wound packing. It&#39;s a good refresher for those that did it in the military, LE, or took a medical class before. For people that never did it before, they learned a lot and enough to take care of the problem if its thrown at them. There were a dozen students in the class who appeared to be just regular people and a few teachers. I took this as a prerequisite to be a stop the bleed instructor for the red cross.<br />Prior to this, they held their free CPR class and the classroom was packed full. I thought a lot of them would stay over for the stop the bleed, but they all left. Guess they just needed it for work.<br /><br /><a  href="https://i.postimg.cc/rmvFxZ74/IMG20260429122942(1).jpg" class="highslide " onclick="return hs.expand(this, { slideshowGroup: '514776' })"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/rmvFxZ74/IMG20260429122942(1).jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></a><br /><br /><a  href="https://i.postimg.cc/Dw2frXpq/IMG20260429112707(1).jpg" class="highslide " onclick="return hs.expand(this, { slideshowGroup: '514776' })"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/Dw2frXpq/IMG20260429112707(1).jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></a><br /><br /><a  href="https://i.postimg.cc/NjpspjWB/IMG20260429125656(1).jpg" class="highslide " onclick="return hs.expand(this, { slideshowGroup: '514776' })"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/NjpspjWB/IMG20260429125656(1).jpg" alt="" class="bbc_img" /></a>]]>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 23:55:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>New AFT Director may warrant the name changing back to ATF</title>
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<![CDATA[Not applicable to HI, but generally a good sign.<br /><br />1) Repeal Biden&#39;s pistol brace rule<br />2) Revising &quot;engaged in the business&quot; rule<br />3) Revising machine gun definition in response to Cargill decision<br />4) Remove requirement for FFLs to post info about Youth Handgun Safety Act<br />5) Revising 4473 form, including allowing electronic forms and increase the time NICS checks remain valid<br />6) Allow FFLs to keep electronic records<br />7) Replace indefinite retention of 4473s with definite time periods of 20 or 30 years<br />8)Allow “Non-Over-the-Counter” firearm sales by FFLs to residents of the same state<br />9) Repeal interstate NFA transport notice requirement for trips under 365 days, with all others no longer requiring approval before transport<br />10) Joint NFA registration for married couples<br />11) Remove NFA CLEO notification<br />12) Clarify that &quot;common, reasonably necessary activities during travel&quot; are covered by FOPA transportation protection<br />13) Allow import of dual-use frames, receivers, and barrels<br />14) Clarify that &quot;training rounds&quot; are not ammunition<br />15) Eliminate engraving requirement for people making NFA firearms out of existing serialized guns<br />16) &quot;Clarify that a person receiving assistance in only one functional area (such as financial management) would not, on that basis alone, be considered prohibited&quot; under mental health disqualifier<br />17) Requiring biological sex on ATF Forms<br />18) Clarify when a transaction is a straw purchase<br />19) Formally define &quot;willfully&quot; for firearms violations<br />20) &quot;Remove the list of former Soviet countries from which ATF currently denies applications to permanently import most firearms and ammunition, retaining only the Russian Federation&quot;]]>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 23:14:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re:  Sad Update for Aero Precision</title>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=58725.msg514720#msg514720">Quote from: rpoL98 on April 26, 2026, 01:51:44 PM</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">seems like Aero&#39;s problems are dragging down VG6 also.&nbsp; Similarly, VG6 muzzle devices &quot;out-of-stock&quot; everywhere.<br /><br />But Ballistic Advantage (just the barrels) seems to still be alive and well.<br /></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br />I have a VG6 and shot an AR with a regular bird cage flash hider.&nbsp; With my current skill level and body structure, I couldn&#39;t tell the difference in recoil when shooting fast.&nbsp; I never shot slow with either side by side.&nbsp; So IMO, the VG6 although on paper and youtube comparisions work very well, I wouldn&#39;t spend the money to buy one, but would instead stick with the cheap bird cage.]]>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 22:57:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>HUGE BREAKING NEWS! HISTORIC ATF POLICY CHANGE OUT NOW!</title>
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