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From a religious war being
declared against Islam a thousand years ago to one of the candidates for the
Republican nominee for President suggesting that Americans should vote on
whether or not Muslims have the right to build Mosques, Islam has been met with
hatred by the West.&amp;nbsp; This hatred,
however, is founded in distrust and a fundamental misunderstanding of
Islam.&amp;nbsp; Many in the West associate Islam
with words like “terrorism” or “Jihad” with no regard to what Islam teaches.&amp;nbsp; I would like to try to clear up some common
misconceptions of how Islam actually views and more importantly treats those of
different faiths, mainly Christians and Jews.&amp;nbsp;
To do this, we must briefly look at theology, but to get a good idea of
how Islam treats others, we need to look at history and modern thought.&lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Before
we begin, I feel the true definition of Jihad needs to be clarified.&amp;nbsp; The word Jihad is a “loaded” one for many
Westerners, who truly don’t know the beautiful meaning of it.&amp;nbsp; As far back as the Crusades, Christians have
had the notion that this word means “holy war” causing many to not listen to
reason. This could be because they believe that Islam has always been in a
“holy war” against the West and Christianity.&amp;nbsp;
While the word Jihad has been used by Islam in reference to military
struggles; Ernest points out that this is not the true meaning.&amp;nbsp; In his book he writes, “When a troop of Arabs
returned from battle boasting of their jihad, the Prophet rebuked them, telling
them that they had engaged only in the lesser jihad, of physical battle; the
greater jihad was the struggle against one’s own basic instincts.” (117)&amp;nbsp; He later notes that many Islamic legal
scholars have stated that the lesser Jihad can only be done in
self-defense.&amp;nbsp; This goes against the
notion of the West of what the essence of this word means, and is a good
example of the misunderstanding that will be covered in this paper.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; To
get a good foundation, let’s go over just a few basic beliefs in the theology
of Islam.&amp;nbsp; Firstly, I would like to share
one of my favorite scriptures, “&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;Surely those who
believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever
believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good, they have their reward with
their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.”&amp;nbsp; (Quran 2:62)&amp;nbsp;
This has a feel of universalism to it, which can be further supported by
a Hadith that my Muslim friend, Salam, shared with me.&amp;nbsp; The Hadith goes, “&lt;/span&gt;, “And argue not
with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save
with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been
revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto
Him we surrender.” (Hadith 29 - Al-&#39;Ankabut)&amp;nbsp;
This Hadith points out the doctrine that Muslims do believe we all
follow the same God. Although we certainly have doctrinal differences, what has
been revealed unto us from God, Muslims do accept.&amp;nbsp; Also, interestingly it counsels not to argue.&amp;nbsp; This is consistent with what we in the LDS
Church believe.&amp;nbsp; Contention is of the
Devil, and is bound to get you nowhere.&amp;nbsp; Islam
also believes, as does the LDS Church, that they are the true and pure religion
of God.&lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; While
Islam is a more tolerant religion than many understand, it does have some
unfavorable views on Christianity and Judaism.&amp;nbsp;
Basically, the held belief is that when Judaism was sent to Earth, it
was pure and it was Islam, but it became corrupt.&amp;nbsp; In the Quran (2:64) it states that Judaism
turned its back on God.&amp;nbsp; One of the
biggest criticisms is that the message was supposed to be for everyone, yet the
Jewish people turned it into an ethnocentric religion, calling themselves the
“Chosen People”.&amp;nbsp; Islam also asserts that
Christians corrupted the pure teachings of Christ by elevating Jesus to God
himself; this idea is blasphemy in Islam.&amp;nbsp;
The Hadith also make claims of the deviation from tradition as well as the
changing of Holy Scripture. (Bukhari 9:92:461) This is noteworthy, since Islam
prides itself on claiming their Holy Text has not been tampered with since the
Prophet recited it.&amp;nbsp; While we could go
much deeper with doctrine, I want to continue to explore how Muslims have
actually put these beliefs into practice.&amp;nbsp;
For now we have a base for Islam in which we can see it is more
accepting that many believe.&lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; From
the beginning, Muslims have tried to be tolerant and kind, with usual success,
to those of different faiths.&amp;nbsp; This,
after all, is the example set forth by the Prophet Muhammad.&amp;nbsp; There is a story that tells of a Jewish woman
who would throw trash at the Prophet every morning. Suddenly, one day she
stopped.&amp;nbsp; The Prophet went to find out
what happen and learned she was sick.&amp;nbsp; He
went to help her.&amp;nbsp; Also in another Hadith
(Sahih Bukhari 2:23:438) the Prophet shows similar compassion to his Jewish
servant boy.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Muslims can even point to
the actions by early Muslims during the Prophet’s time to show how to act with
justice on non-Muslims who have betrayed or broken laws.&amp;nbsp; An example of this is of when &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10pt;&quot;&gt;Sa‘d ibn Mu’adh
inflicted punishment to the Jewish tribe, the Banu Qurayza.&amp;nbsp; This tribe betrayed a treaty with the Muslims
and declared war, in turn supporting the pagan army formed by Mecca.&amp;nbsp; When the army of Mecca lost, it was time to deal
with the Jews who betrayed the treaty.&amp;nbsp; Some
critics of Islam view this as an evil event.&amp;nbsp;
However, I and others, view the events from a different perspective.&amp;nbsp; The Muslims could have done what they willed
with the Jewish population according to their own laws and feel justified in
doing so, yet out of wisdom they judged the tribe by &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;Jewish&lt;/i&gt; laws.&amp;nbsp; Let me
explain.&amp;nbsp; In the Torah, those who are deemed
to be traitors were condemn to death, so the Muslims executed those men
responsible in the betrayal. (Way of Truth)&amp;nbsp;
To me, this shows clarity and respect for those traditions that the Jews
had, to judge them based on what the Jews knew and understood.&amp;nbsp; Also this is important for later
history.&amp;nbsp; The kindness by the Prophet,
and justice by early Muslims set up the ground work for later treatment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; As the Islamic empire grew, a notable
difference between the empire, and it’s Christian counterparts was the idea
that “convert or die” did not exist.&amp;nbsp;
Populations that were Christian, Jewish, and other “peoples of the book”
were not forced to become Muslim.&amp;nbsp; This
is notably different than how the pagans were treated, but that’s another
matter. (Ernest, 90)&amp;nbsp; These “people of
the book” retained the name of &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;Dhimmis, &lt;/i&gt;or
“protected status”.&amp;nbsp; The Hadith put forth
laws in which these people should be handled namely, “&lt;/span&gt;“by the rules and
regulations concerning the &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;Dhimmis&lt;/i&gt;
(protectees) of Allah and His Apostle, to fulfill their contracts completely
and fight for them and not to tax (overburden) them beyond their
capabilities.&quot; (Bukhari 2:23:475)&amp;nbsp;
This treatment was well retained by the Islamic Empire.&amp;nbsp; When it came to taxing the “&lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;Dhimmis&lt;/i&gt;”, it was mainly as a way to
create equality, not to create division.&amp;nbsp;
The Muslims already paid a tax called “zakat” which is one of the Five
Pillars of Islam; while &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;Dhimmis&lt;/i&gt; did
not have to pay this, their tax was a way to balance that.&amp;nbsp; Also, going along with the belief that these
other religions were from God, many times these minorities had the right to run
many of their communities’ own affairs.&amp;nbsp;
As Ernest states, “Since Islamic theology recognized that every people
had received a particular revelation and law through their own
prophets….religious minorities in Muslim societies were allowed, or even
required, to administer their internal affairs with their own religious and
legal systems.” (118)&amp;nbsp; It is not only
very liberal to allow minorities to control much of their affairs but it shows a
considerable amount of respect.&amp;nbsp; While
the US is not entirely a “Christian” nation, it is for the most part run by
Christians.&amp;nbsp; Many Christians become
frightened at the thought of allowing Muslims societies to practice just a
little sharia law.&amp;nbsp; Actually some Western
nations go out of their way to restrict Islamic law, such as France and its ban
on the &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;hijab&lt;/i&gt;. Not only were those
minorities under the Islamic Empire treated with respect, when the Empire was
at war this respect was maintained. &lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; During
the Crusades, there was much bloodshed on each side.&amp;nbsp; When the Christians conquered the city of
Jerusalem they massacred the vast majority of citizens.&amp;nbsp; This mass bloodshed not only killed Muslims,
but Jews, and Christians themselves.&amp;nbsp; The
city was held for decades until the Muslim leader, Saladin came to
conquer.&amp;nbsp; After already defeating one of
the largest Frankish armies in the Holy Land, he marched into and took the city
of Jerusalem after ten days of siege. (Karnes) His actions after the siege show
the Islamic view of justice.&amp;nbsp; Many Franks
were held at a price.&amp;nbsp; If they wished to
leave the city, they could pay the ransom.&amp;nbsp;
Many others were even allowed to leave without paying, if they did not
have the funds.&amp;nbsp; Saladin also invited the
Jews to resettle the city.&amp;nbsp; This shows
far more restraint and justice than what was showed to the Muslims less than a
hundred years before that.&amp;nbsp; While some might
point out that the use of ransom was not the most progressive, the Muslims felt
that there needed to be some punishment.&amp;nbsp;
I view this much like the handling of the Banu Qurayza, who needed to be
punished, yet the punishment was just and not taken to an extreme.&amp;nbsp; Though, as today, there has been some
treatment that violates this idea of fellowship among the religions.&lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; In
the twelfth century there arose to power in North Africa a fundamentalist group
of Islam called the Almohads.&amp;nbsp; This group
was formed in response to what some believed to be a loosening of morals by the
current Islamic government.&amp;nbsp; Their goal
was to take control.&amp;nbsp; There have been stories
told of the Almohads practicing forced conversion of Christians and Jews under
plenty of death. (Roth)&amp;nbsp; This is
important to note, since even with the doctrines mentioned, there are still
those who try to promote violence.&amp;nbsp; The
modern day views and actions of fundamentalist Islam are not new. It is
important to note this when trying to understand how any why Muslims view and
interact with their counterparts in the way that they do.&lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; As
we move closer to the modern day, the situation of Islam and its fellow
religions began to change.&amp;nbsp; The days of
Islamic rule were fading.&amp;nbsp; More Muslims
had to live next to Jews and Christians, as more of equals, and not
rulers.&amp;nbsp; While the Ottoman Empire was an
Islamic government in the early 1900s they moved to become much more
secular.&amp;nbsp; Under the Empire there lived,
Christians, Muslims and Jews who lived in harmony most of the time.&amp;nbsp; When the government granted more liberties to
the people, the celebration that happened is one that demolishes the views of
fundamentalist Islam and extreme conservative Westerners.&amp;nbsp; The belief that these people cannot live next
to each other, and not only tolerate but show love and embrace each other as
brothers was destroyed in one night.&amp;nbsp; In
her book, Campos captures this scene by quoting some who were there.&amp;nbsp; One such quote is as follows, “the Maronite
priest four times kiss the Moslem Sheikh and the Moselm Sheikh responded by
four times kissing the Maronite priest.&amp;nbsp;
Moselms and Christians publicly embraced each other…henceforth they are
brethren, that there are Christians, Moslem, Jews…no more only loyal Ottoman
subjects standing shoulder to shoulder..” (76)&amp;nbsp;
This beautifully shows how these different groups saw themselves as
equal to one another.&amp;nbsp; Would a religion
that taught hate have something like this in their history?&amp;nbsp; Of course they wouldn’t.&amp;nbsp; It’s with this brotherhood that Islam entered
into the modern era.&lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; While
many may ignore all this history, saying, “That was so long ago.” and believe
it has no bearing to today, I say they are wrong.&amp;nbsp; I feel this spirit of brotherhood still
exists today.&amp;nbsp; When discussing modern
thought, I feel it’s best to go to actual Muslims as a source.&amp;nbsp; I interviewed my friend from high school,
Salam Awad.&amp;nbsp; To give you some background
on her, she was born in America, but her family quickly moved back to Palestine.&amp;nbsp; This is where she was raised.&amp;nbsp; She has had much exposure to both the Western
world, and the Islamic world, which I believe makes her a good judge on an
issue such as this.&amp;nbsp; She stated that she
has an understanding of Christianity more that Judaism. I feel this may be
caused by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, yet also it is in part caused by
her being taught that Christianity is far closer to Islam.&amp;nbsp; Yet, she still confirms that both are from
God.&amp;nbsp; There were some interesting things
in which she related to me about her time in Palestine.&lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Living
in Palestine gives one a better understanding of the cooperation between Christians
and Muslims.&amp;nbsp; She said that Christianity
and Islam have lived together there in peace for centuries, which as we have
read, is nothing new.&amp;nbsp; Yet, there is a
ceremony that happens every night in a certain region that is very symbolic of
this peace, which continues today.&amp;nbsp; The
Imans and the Priest will meet up and hand the keys to their holy sites to each
other to lock up.&amp;nbsp; This is a wonderful
example of trust that each side has for the other, and to be honest this level
of cooperation between Christian sects is fairly hard to find.&amp;nbsp; Another point she mentioned was if the “call
to prayer” went out and there was not a Mosque nearby, she and her mother would
go into a Christian church to pray.&amp;nbsp; This
was very surprising to me.&amp;nbsp; She went on
to say that she was always taught that churches and Jewish temples were holy
sites.&amp;nbsp; Both Christianity and Judaism
were of God.&amp;nbsp; This is also what I learned
from the Imam from the Khadeeja Mosque when we visited.&amp;nbsp; He taught that we will be saved if we follow
the Prophet we claim to believe in.&amp;nbsp; If
we claim to follow Christ, then follow him and we will be judged on how we
followed him, if it be Moses, then the same applies.&amp;nbsp; This is because these are men of God, and if
we profess to follow them, then it is still holy.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Salam
did mention that she feels most of the friction over Islam that occurs is due,
as stated in the beginning of the paper, to misunderstanding.&amp;nbsp; Islam is a conservative religion that
requires much.&amp;nbsp; According to Salam, many
in the West see that as restricting liberty.&amp;nbsp;
As a member of a religion that many see to be conservative, I can
understand what she is saying.&amp;nbsp; The LDS
church is a victim of the same type of misunderstandings, though not to the
same extent.&amp;nbsp; To the West, the
requirements of Islam make it a religion that cannot cooperate with liberty.
However, there is a bridge being built over this gap of understanding.&amp;nbsp; One such group is the Council on
America-Islamic Relations (CAIR).&amp;nbsp; CAIR
is the modern incarnation of Islam which this paper has been trying to
show.&amp;nbsp; CAIR is dedicated to showing the
world that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.&amp;nbsp; In a letter to President Obama, the National
Executive Director Nihad Awad wrote, “&lt;span class=&quot;Normal1&quot;&gt;True peace and
understanding will only come when we all - Muslims, Christians, Jews, and
people of other faiths and philosophies - cast off the prejudices and
preconceptions of the past to engage each other based on what we have in
common, not on what has separated us for so long.” Does this sound familiar?&amp;nbsp; I feel this is the understanding that the
Prophet himself wanted for his followers.&amp;nbsp;
In this respect, CAIR is an organization that is trying to heal the
world.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class=&quot;Normal1&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; While the views within Islam vary from liberal to
fundamental, my goal with this paper was to give a better understanding of the
essence of true Islam and its views of other faiths.&amp;nbsp; Islam is not a religion of hate or
intolerance.&amp;nbsp; Any hate or violence is not
from true Islam.&amp;nbsp; These are opposite to
Islam’s teachings. If we all took a closer look at our own religion and it’s
doctrines, our political ideas or even our superstitions, we would most likely
find much that is misunderstood by others and therefore ridiculed.&amp;nbsp; Although a lofty goal, those who understand
this should try to do something to clear up the misunderstanding when they see
the opportunity.&amp;nbsp; While the pain of the
events on 9-11 is still raw in America, I hope now you can come away with a
real idea of what has been taught for 1500 years in Islam.&amp;nbsp; Every religion can look back and see in its
own history, moments of violence and departures from the original message of
the faith.&amp;nbsp; The point is to not repeat
history, but to learn from it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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“The poverty of our century is unlike that of any other. It
is not, as poverty was before, the result of natural scarcity, but of a set of
priorities imposed upon the rest of the world by the rich. Consequently, the
modern poor are not pitied...but written off as trash. The twentieth-century
consumer economy has produced the first culture for which as beggar is a
reminder of nothing.”&lt;/div&gt;
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― John Berger&lt;/div&gt;
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“How can we worship a homeless man on Sunday and ignore one
on Monday?”-unknown&lt;/div&gt;
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I have wanted to speak about this
for some time.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And when I saw the first
quote, it of course reminded me of the second, and it also got me to write
about society’s seemingly growing apathy to the poor and homeless.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In my city of Yakima it is quite evident to
see this apathy.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It has grown past
merely people driving by beggars as if they are not present, and moved past
people yelling “get a job!”, as if that is something anyone can do at the
moment.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This apathy has moved into hate
as there have even been those who have protested against the presence of
beggars.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;With signs saying “aren’t you
tired of beggars?” “Help us rid Yakima of these people”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Now thankfully I saw many reject these
protesters, yet others praised them.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;All
this while a poor homeless sat, pitifully, while the protestors (a group of
elderly ladies who claimed to be devout Christians) harassed the man calling me
things such as “worthless”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I am no
theologian, but I have read the New Testament, and Jesus never called the poor
worthless, actually his kind of advice to us is to live like the poor, by
giving up ALL of our possessions to follow him.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;He treated the weak and poor with the utmost respect and said they would
inherit the world.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Yet, many don’t feel that is the
way to approach beggars.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I have many
conversations from LDS members (Mormons), to mainstream Christians, to
Catholics, Muslims, and even Atheists; all of which I have heard many different
ways to approach the issue of beggars.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Note that none of the religions had a consentient answer when I talked
to their members (except Islam, but I know only a handful of Muslims as opposed
to the majority of people I know being in the other mentioned groups). &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The worse approach is the automatic accusation
that the beggar is somehow a vile person and should be avoided.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Also, don’t dare give them money since they
will blow it on alcohol and drugs, and they could even be faking since of
course all homeless are really con-artist in a giant conspiracy.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Now, are any of those accusations possible?
Of course they are.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I have members in my
own family who have been tricked, and are now extremely cautious when handing
money to beggars.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, I highly
doubt that most fall under those accusations, and even with those accusations,
it still doesn’t matter for we need to give.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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The very sad thing is that the religious,
the ones who should be the most charitable, often turn their backs the most (at
least from what I have seen).&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Now I am
not going to judge any one single person, it’s not my place, but there is a
possibility that they are merely saying they are religious yet their hearts are
far from truth.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I have been there before
and I understand; I have been false in my religious convictions when I was
Catholic, so I am just as guilty of doing it.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;I have been to General Conference twice (for those who don’t know, it’s
a semi-annual Church wide conference that is held by the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints, also known as Mormons, which it is filmed in Salt Lake
City, UT).&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We literally could have a
leader of the Church preach about charity and helping the less fortunate than
us; then everyone leave and walk outside where there are plenty of beggars that
could be helped and those far more prosperous than I, will walk by with their
heads turned away.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I am only 21 years
old, I don’t have much money, but I give what I can.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;frustrates me to see some many just not care.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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As I am sure some readers by now
will be thinking, “well Mister high and mighty on your high horse, what do you
do?”&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Well, I am glad you asked
semi-fictional reader.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I always give if
I have money on me.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Let me correct
myself, &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I usually give, there are days
when I am weak and greed takes hold of me, I am human of course.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;When I recognize what I did was indeed
sinful, I try and repent.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I always feel
that, a couple dollars to me really doesn’t matter, but if it can get a meal
for someone who is without a home, then clearly it matters to them.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Also, it’s not enough to buy drugs or alcohol
so I never get paranoid about that.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And,
really if they are a con-artist, who cares, they manage to take two or three
dollars from me.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I should be lucky that
a con-artist only takes a few dollars from me, since others can have their whole
live savings stolen from a deceiver.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Of
course, I still get a good feeling for what I did, and still following Christ,
even if the person begging was lying (which I think happens far less than many
claim).&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Something a friend of mine I met in
Russia, named Sarah, told me really impacted me on this subject as well.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;She has lived in the Salt Lake City, the
heartland of “happy valley” (nickname for the Utah/South Idaho area).&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;She told me how frustrated she would get when
seeing fellow LDS (Mormon) members talk down about the needy, or not reach out
to help.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;God is always watching if we
are following him or not.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;She said how
Jesus mentioned that helping the least of us is helping Christ himself.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Also, she did bring up how many will say that
they could be con-artist or want the cash for negative items, such as
drugs.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yet, we don’t really know if an
individual intents to do with the money.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;If we turn our back from them and not help a fellow human in need, then
we are sinning, but if they are deceiving us, then the sin is theirs.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Really by not helping someone we are digging
ourselves a hole.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Many Russians amaze me
since some who don’t have much, still give to those who need it more.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A friend of mine, who is only 19 living on
her own in Moscow and doesn’t make a lot of money, still gives anytime she
can.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;She jokes how if she continues to
give her money away she will be just as poor as the ones she tries to
help.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Honestly though, that attitude is
the attitude that Christ wants us to have, help others even if it means we don’t
live comfortably.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Many might point out
that it’s not logical to give so much if you don’t have much, but the Gospel is
not one of logic (as much as I hate to mention that) but one of faith and trust
in God that you will be given opportunities and a path will be made for
you.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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However, I am not doing the most I
can do, because just given money, usually doesn’t help them.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;My friend Sierra told me that many times what
these people need more is a friend, or someone to talk to.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Life is extremely hard for them; to think it isn’t
is ridicules.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Something I will never
forget is the last time I went to General Conference.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;While yes, many walked right by the needy
without even a glance, there was one man who shocked me.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A beggar was sitting, with just a sign.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He was a veteran of either Iraq now or 1991,
I am not sure right now.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He was missing
a leg.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I gave money, but kept walking, I
truly didn’t know what to say.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Though,
someone behind me stopped as well.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And
he sat down with the man and began to talk to him.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A couples hours later I was walking again
passed this area and that man was still with the veteran.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The veteran was in tears, telling this man
his story and thanking him so much for caring to speak with him.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I have never seen someone who was so appreciative
in my life, as that veteran looked right then. &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It looked as if this one man who stopped to
understand the veteran and share a message of Christ’s love, did far more than
my two dollars.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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It’s true, even us who give when we
can, can do more, and should do more.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I
have always been afraid and timid to talk to them, which is an issue I am
trying to deal with.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Instead of giving
money, we could take them to a nearby fast food place or restaurant and feed
them and hear their story.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This I am
sure can help make a great difference, since money and food can only help the physical
issues, but their loneliness and rejection by the world creates many mental
issues, that to help through, they could use a good friend.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Us Christians are commanded to help
the poor and needy and to reach out.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And
if you are not religious, or an Agnostic, or an Atheist well those in need are
our fellow brothers and sisters.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We need
to give up these fictions that divide us and come together to help each other.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If we truly helped each other, maybe we could
eradicate poverty.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It won’t be easy, and
will take a long time, but I honestly believe we can.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In America, we have the resources to do it;
we just need to rid ourselves of our selfishness and greed.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;In life I strive to try to bring groups who think they are in
opposition together or to create a better understanding of different
peoples.&amp;nbsp; Two of these groups are
Christians and Muslims, who have large misconceptions of the other side.&amp;nbsp; Of course with this goal my topics were Jesus
in the Quran, since that could be common ground for both groups, and the
treatment of non-Muslims, which is something I think many westerns have their
own misconceptions about.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; To Muslims, Jesus is not an unknown name,
yet it is not the same as many Christians believe.&amp;nbsp; Interestingly he is referred to as the
Messiah, which means the “Anointed One”, whose synonyms is Savoir and Redeemer,
yet in Islam Christ did not come to die as a sacrifice for our sins.&amp;nbsp; He was however born of a virgin, Mary, though
it was on a journey (shown in Chapter 19, section 2) rather than a manger.&amp;nbsp; Usually I am use to seeing Jesus get the
persecution for the authority he claimed, but the Quran showed that Mary did
too, when in Ch. 19:27, calling what Mary “brought” was strange.&amp;nbsp; The commentary said this was since Jesus
claimed such authority and it was somewhat backhanded, and it is clear to see
the calumny for Jesus right away comes to his mother’s rescue.&amp;nbsp; His speech though is something of
interest.&amp;nbsp; From our readings on the Quran
in class, we saw that Jesus did not die on the cross, nor was he resurrected;
yet in Ch. 19;33 Jesus mentions he will be resurrected.&amp;nbsp; To quote exactly, “And peace on me the day I
was born, and the day I die, and the day I am raised to life”, clearly this
shows that Jesus will die and come back.&amp;nbsp;
Sadly though the commentary has nothing on this, so I did look on the
internet, and I didn’t find a good answer, or one that may be reliable.&amp;nbsp; This then does raise an interesting point, of
what if he did die on the cross, even by the Islamic version of history, there
seems to be plenty of times for some corruption of their Holy Book in it, maybe
this is a sign that something was meddled with.&amp;nbsp;
Something in his speech though that caught my eye was 19:36, since the
commentary compares it to Matt. 4:10, which as someone who is looking for
common ground, these two verses are clearly that.&amp;nbsp; The largest difference is that Islam views
Christ as a great prophet, not God in the flesh.&amp;nbsp; Now this is a point that many in Christianity
argue about anyway, for most Christians literally believe Christ to be Heavenly
Father, a concept that is ridicules to LDS, yet we still hold the divinity of
Christ.&amp;nbsp; In Islam, Christ is not divine,
and in Ch. 4:171 it states that he is “only a messenger”.&amp;nbsp; There are many scriptures in which Jesus
points to all his power coming from God, but this is the same in the Bible, as
far as the idea that Jesus is literally God, I do agree with the Quran on that
being an idea introduced after his death and ministry.&amp;nbsp; There is a section about the false doctrines
introduced, as well as mention of them in other areas of the Quran, for the LDS
faith, we can agree on this idea, since we very much do believe that Christ’s
teachings were perverted.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; When it comes to relations with
non-Muslims, it is fairly liberal.&amp;nbsp; This
can be shown by 2:62, where is it says, “Surely those who believe, and those
who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah
and the Last Day and does good, they have their reward with their Lord, and
there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.”&amp;nbsp; This shows a very Universalist outlook, yet
it is also a commentary against those religions.&amp;nbsp; In the commentary I have it is pointed out
that this shakes the concept of a favored nation, whose member will go to
heaven alone; much like the criticism of the Jewish people who call themselves
the “Chosen People”.&amp;nbsp; This furthers
illustrates a larger issue that the past faiths were the truth until the people
rejected it.&amp;nbsp; Just read two verses later
(2:64) in which the Quran states that the Jews turned their back after being
given the truth.&amp;nbsp; While they still can
achieve salvation, they are chastised throughout this section for rejecting
God’s word.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It is true that there could
be verse to back unfriendly relations to non-believers.&amp;nbsp; In Ch. 60 verse 1 it does say to not take
disbelievers as your friends, yet it is not that simple.&amp;nbsp; In verses 7 and 8 it is explained that the
only reason to not take the unbelievers as friends was due to the conflict and
war happening at the time.&amp;nbsp; The
commentary explained the historical background and that it depends on what is
happening.&amp;nbsp; To actually quote the
commentary, “the true principle is revealed in unmistakable language, allowing
friendly relation with one class of disbelievers and prohibiting such relations
with those of another class.”&amp;nbsp; So from
this it is perfectly okay for friendship between disbelievers, except with
those who are actively seeking to destroy you or your faith, which isn’t far
off from Christianity, which teaches to still help those who are sinning, but
if they are actively trying to corrupt you, to then cut yourself from
them.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; After studying for this paper, I was
surprised.&amp;nbsp; I knew there were
similarities between Christianity and Islam, but I wasn’t sure how it was.&amp;nbsp; I also knew that Islam is more open to
non-Muslims, than most religions have been to people who don’t share their
beliefs.&amp;nbsp; Now the beliefs on Jesus are
close to my own, the only issue is the divinity part, or the part that he is
not the Son of God.&amp;nbsp; Since I still do
believe that the Quran is from God, yet I believe that Jesus is the Son of God,
I attribute the inconsistency to either God not revealing completeness but
rather the message he wanted for the Arabs or the more likely, corruption of
man of the Prophet Mohammad’s (Peace be upon him) message.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I think if more understood that Jesus does
have a place in Islam, there could be more dialogue between Christians and
Muslims. &amp;nbsp;However, not all Christians
would be receptive, this past week I talked to street preachers who said that
Muslims were damn since they reduced Jesus to a prophet, and not God
himself.&amp;nbsp; A theme that I picked up about
the relations to non-Muslims was one greatly of tolerance rather than
acceptance.&amp;nbsp; This goes well with the
history of the Islamic Empire and their treatment of the Dhimmis.&amp;nbsp; While they did not enjoy the same benefits of
those in Islam, they had their basic freedoms and rights and were treated with
respect.&amp;nbsp; This seemed to jump out to me,
though there is still a tone of somewhat disdain to the other beliefs, since
they rejected and changed God’s word.&amp;nbsp; As
a member of the LDS church, this is nothing new since we say that all other
churches are abominations in the eyes of God; though it is because they have
been corrupted.&amp;nbsp; There are still
differences between Christianity and Islam, but I think of it as the way the Christian
King of Abyssinia did when he drew a line on the ground and stated that the
difference between the two were no thicker than that line.&amp;nbsp; I would say that line is even smaller for
those in the LDS faith in relation to Islam.&amp;nbsp;
I truly believe, after reading in the Quran, that Islam was the purest
religion until the Restoration, and that it was completely pure when the
Prophet Mohammed lived on this earth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Quran used; The Holy Quran with English Translation and Commentary, Maulana
Muhammad Ali&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(To study more for yourself, please follow the link and get a copy of this great book)&lt;br /&gt;
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opportunity to repent for our sins and transgressions.  It is a vital 
part of our Lord’s plan that without it, no person could even hope to 
make it into heaven.  As stated in the fourth Article of Faith, 
repentance is second only to having faith in Jesus Christ.  This makes 
it a very important factor in our eternal salvation and thus something 
that every single human being on this planet should come to know and 
love.  For it is known, “All men, everywhere, must repent” (Moses 6:57)&lt;br /&gt;
I
 shall quickly touch on what it means to sin.  Sometimes there are 
confusions between a transgression and sin, sometimes there is for some 
too much guilt placed in a harmless transgression.  James describes sin,
 “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it 
is sin.” (James 4:17).  So, as we can see if someone knows the law and 
still openly rebels, then they have sinned, and thus they are not 
striving to be like God.  We should feel ashamed by this, but know that 
no person can avoid sin.  John made this clear, “if we say that we have 
no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess 
our sins, [Jesus Christ] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, 
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness&quot; (1 John 1:8–9).  He shows 
that all sin and there is no escape from it, but there is a silver 
lining, for he mentions that we can be forgiven of these sins.&lt;br /&gt;
The
 reason behind the importance of repentance is we are a fallen and 
sinful people can not fulfill our potential without a tool like 
repentance.  The Prophet Amulek taught us that “And I say unto you again
 that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and
 he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; 
therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven?
 Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins.” (Alma 11:37).  It is clear
 that without this gift, we could never make it back into heaven for we 
are certainly unclean.  This point also made clear in the writings of 
Nephi, “no unclean thing can dwell with God” (1 Nephi 10:21) Showing 
this importance, Elder Bernard P. Brockbank quoted David O. McKay 
saying, “Every principle and ordinance of the gospel of Jesus Christ is 
significant and important in contributing to the progress, happiness, 
and eternal life of man, but there is none more essential to the 
salvation of the human family than the divine and eternally operative 
principle, repentance. Without it, no one can be saved. Without it, no 
one can … progress.”(Bernard P. Brockbank, Fall 1974 General Conference)&lt;br /&gt;
Another
 reason it is important to repent is sin can bring us low and “slow” us 
in our dealing in the world and especially with the spiritual things.   
President Monson explained this in a talk where he compared sins to the 
barnacles that grow on the under side of a ship.  These are not good for
 shipping boats since it creates drag and can slow their progression, 
much like sins slow our spiritual progression.  So, once in a while the 
boats will go far up river to the city Portland, where the freshwater 
will kill off all the barnacles.  I believe its best to have the Prophet
 take the story from here, “Periodically, the ship must go into dry 
dock, where with great effort the barnacles are chiseled or scraped off.
 It’s a difficult, expensive process that ties up the ship for days. But
 not if the captain can get his ship to Portland. Barnacles can’t live 
in fresh water. There, in the sweet, fresh waters of the Willamette or 
Columbia, the barnacles loosen and fall away, and the ship returns to 
its task lightened and renewed.  Sins are like those barnacles. Hardly 
anyone goes through life without picking up some. They increase the 
drag, slow our progress, decrease our efficiency. Unrepented, building 
up one on another, they can eventually sink us.” (Thomas S. Monson, 
April 2000 General Conference)  From this we can see that an un-repented
 life will begin to make the individual drag in life and lose their 
luster from the extreme weight of sin, but all of it can easily be taken
 away.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the saddest things I see is people procrastinating 
repentance.  I have been told many times over by friends, “I am young, I
 don’t want to change, and I have plenty of time in my life to repent”. 
 This cuts deep since it is not true.  Putting off repentance is 
extremely dangerous, for it grows the possibility that they will never 
repent.  The Prophet Amluek knew this and taught many years ago the 
great dangers.  “For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your 
repentance even until death, behold, ye have become subjected to the 
spirit of the devil, and he doth seal you his; therefore, the Spirit of 
the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and hath no place in you, and the 
devil hath all power over you; and this is the final state of the 
wicked.” (Alma 34:35)  The more one puts of repentance the more weight 
they will feel from sin, and they will slowly become more and more a 
servant of the adversary with out even realizing it.  The Spirit will 
not waste his time on one who will not repent and sadly this leaves 
people open to Satan’s growing influence on them.  I know this on a very
 personal level.  On the topic of not repenting President Monson related
 another story about how long un-repented sins can destroy us later.  
“The ice storm [that winter] wasn’t generally destructive. True, a few 
wires came down, and there was a sudden jump in accidents along the 
highway. … Normally, the big walnut tree could easily have borne the 
weight that formed on its spreading limbs. It was the iron wedge in its 
heart that caused the damage. The story of the iron wedge began years 
ago when the white-haired farmer [who now inhabited the property on 
which it stood] was a lad on his father’s homestead. The sawmill had 
then only recently been moved from the valley, and the settlers were 
still finding tools and odd pieces of equipment scattered about. …  On 
this particular day, it was a faller’s wedge—wide, flat, and heavy, a 
foot or more long, and splayed from mighty poundings [—which the lad 
found] … in the south pasture. [A faller’s wedge, used to help fell a 
tree, is inserted in a cut made by a saw and then struck with a sledge 
hammer to widen the cut.] … Because he was already late for dinner, the 
lad laid the wedge … between the limbs of the young walnut tree his 
father had planted near the front gate. He would take the wedge to the 
shed right after dinner, or sometime when he was going that way. He 
truly meant to, but he never did. [The wedge] was there between the 
limbs, a little tight, when he attained his manhood. It was there, now 
firmly gripped, when he married and took over his father’s farm. It was 
half grown over on the day the threshing crew ate dinner under the tree.
 … Grown in and healed over, the wedge was still in the tree the winter 
the ice storm came.&lt;br /&gt;
In the chill silence of that wintry night … 
one of the three major limbs split away from the trunk and crashed to 
the ground. This so unbalanced the remainder of the top that it, too, 
split apart and went down. When the storm was over, not a twig of the 
once-proud tree remained.  Early the next morning, the farmer went out 
to mourn his loss. …&lt;br /&gt;
Then, his eyes caught sight of something in 
the splintered ruin. ‘The wedge,’ he muttered reproachfully. ‘The wedge I
 found in the south pasture.’ A glance told him why the tree had fallen.
 Growing, edge-up in the trunk, the wedge had prevented the limb fibers 
from knitting together as they should.” (Thomas S Monson, Ensign, May 
2002, 18) Like this hidden wedge, un-repented sins can bury deep in us 
and weaken us to a point where we will not be able to withstand a storm 
that we would normally be strong enough to stand against.  Through the 
Lord and his gift, we can erase those wedges and be as if it had never 
happen.&lt;br /&gt;
While repentance is a gift, to some it is very scary and 
daunting.  Once a person recognizes sin in their lives, it hurts, and to
 repent is going to hurt, but it should.  Many adopt the idea of 
“premeditate repentance” which is lie from Satan.  “And there shall also
 be many which shall say: Eat, drink, and be merry; nevertheless, fear 
God—he will justify in committing a little sin; yea, lie a little, take 
the advantage of one because of his words, dig a pit for thy neighbor; 
there is no harm in this; and do all these things, for tomorrow we die; 
and if it so be that we are guilty, God will beat us with a few stripes,
 and at last we shall be saved in the kingdom of God.” (2 Nephi 28:8)  
This is nothing less than a slap in the face to our Savior.  To think 
that we can sin a little, plan to repent afterwards, and only get a 
minor punishment is ludicrous. “For those who have strayed, the Savior 
has provided a way back. But it is not without pain. Repentance is not 
easy; it takes time—painful time! You deceive yourself if you believe 
you can break the promises you have made with Heavenly Father and suffer
 no consequence.” (M. Russell Ballard, Ensign, May 1993, 6) Also, 
President Kimball stated something similar, “There is no royal road to 
repentance, no privileged path to forgiveness” (Teachings of the 
President of the Church: Spencer W. Kimball) True repentance is a 
changing of heart, and is extremely painful.  Yet the end result is 
amazing.  And everyone is strong enough to go through repentance, for 
the Lord will never give us more than we can handle.&lt;br /&gt;
As mentioned 
earlier, repentance usually is much more than just seeking forgiveness 
for sins; it is the conscious decision to follow Christ and try to turn 
away from the sinning.  While of course in our fallen state it is 
impossible to completely turn away from sin, we must still try since if 
we don’t, we will be judged for it.  The greatest gift, in my eyes, is 
repentance that leads to conversion.&lt;br /&gt;
“The fruits of repentance are
 sweet. Repentant converts find that the truths of the restored gospel 
govern their thoughts and deeds, shape their habits, and forge their 
character. They are more resilient and able to deny themselves of all 
ungodliness” (Russell M. Nelson, Ensign, May 2007, 102–5)  As a convert 
this statement is close to me, of course he didn’t just mean converts to
 the Church for there are many LDS who need to or have been converted to
 Christ.  If there is anything that is clearer to me, it is the 
greatness that comes out of true repentance and a conversion to Christ. 
 This topic is of such importance to me.  Before I became a member, I 
truly say fit in my eyes to destroy God’s influence over the earth.  I 
was down the road of a ‘son of perdition” and could care less.  I would 
rather not go into to much detail on my near spiritual suicide which 
much I have always kept to myself.  However, I know that I have been 
forgiven and if I could be, I know anyone can be.  Does my past still 
hurt, yes, but I understand that it comes with what I did and the 
important thing is that my Heavenly Father has manifested unto me that 
he no longer sees those sins; this is a greater gift to me than my own 
life.  Yet, if I could go back, I would not change a thing, since out of
 everything I did, I ultimately learned much about the un-restraining 
love that Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have for all of us, and I 
grew to understand the atonement infinitely more than I would ever been 
taught in church.&lt;br /&gt;
For many the path to repentance is unclear.  As 
members of the Lord’s church we are blessed with the knowledge of the 
path, yet we also have the responsibility to go forth and share this 
with others.  We know from the Book of Mormon and the Bible that Christ 
is the way to repentance.  “And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ,
 we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to 
our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look 
for a remission of their sins” (2 Nephi 25:26)  Christ is the way, the 
truth and light and only through him can repentance come.  To learn more
 we must search the scriptures for they are what teach us the wonders of
 Christ and the gift of repentance.  We have many examples of those who 
have been changed from repentance.  Whether it is Alma the younger, who 
sought to destroy the church with words, or Saul, one who was much more 
violent in his dealings.  These and many others have seen the glory of 
Christ and his eternal gift.  If the person is a member of the LDS 
church or of other church, if they look to Christ, they will find 
repentance and forgiveness.&lt;br /&gt;
It is true, there is a thing called 
the “unforgivable sin” that is taught most notably by the Apostle John. 
 However, to commit such a thing one must have a perfect knowledge of 
Christ and the Holy Ghost, a thing I doubt any man could ever have since
 we can’t achieve perfection in this life.  Also, the idea is that if 
one has perfect knowledge then they will never want to come back even 
after they committed the sin.  But that is not the point, since I feel 
conformable in saying that there is not a sin that we as humans can 
commit that the Lord will not forgive.&lt;br /&gt;
This topic is such a dear 
gift and that is something I can not stress enough.  I may sound like a 
broken record on that point, but for some things that needs to be the 
case.  I have seen my life completely change, in every aspect; socially,
 culturally, religiously, politically, even down to my likes and 
dislikes, all because I have repented and came to Christ.  If I could 
give all my knowledge just to have a perfect knowledge of repentance and
 how incredibly forgiving our Lord is, I would.  I still can’t 
comprehend it sometimes, how by an act sins can be washed away.  I have a
 firm testimony in this, which lead to the testimony I have for 
everything else in the Church.  This is a direct result of a greater 
gift, the atonement of Christ.  I know personally of his forgiveness and
 love, I have been blessed to have seen it.  Understanding repentance, 
brought back my faith in Christ, and showed me the truth of this Church 
and the Holy scriptures.  One could have all the knowledge in the world,
 but yet if he does not know about repentance, then, I believe, he knows
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Today
 at work I was listening to a church program on the internet.  It was 
about keeping life simple and not trying to be to complex.  The conversation went from one topic to another and the issue came up of 
family and the Church.  Namely the issue was, which is more important. 
 How do you balance your responsibilities and duty to the Lord&#39;s Church, 
and keep all your responsibilities and still be with your family, which 
is of course very important.  One of the speakers told a story of when 
he was a Bishop.  He was conducting a meeting outside of church, but 
still every important.  He was speaking with some brothers when his 
phone rang.  It was his daughter, around 7 or 8, and she wanted him to 
come home.  She said she had to speak with him and it was extremely 
important.  He asked if it could wait, but she said it was urgent.  He didn&#39;t know what to do, so he decided to have someone finish the meeting
 and he went home to speak with little girl.  It turned out to really 
not be that urgent, but to her it was very important.  The man was glad 
of the choice he made putting family first, but is that suppose to be 
the case every time?  One of the men doing the show said a quote from 
Stephen Covey that give some great insight on this issue.  The quote 
went something like this, &quot;It is not an issue of what is more important,
 the Church or family, our loyalty should be with God.  If we trust him
 then we will know which one is the right one to choose when certain 
conflicts come up&quot;.  Sadly, I can not actaully remember the exact quote 
but I think that is close.  I think that is a very inspired statement.  
For some, the Church trumps all, but we can not forget the other aspects
 of our lives, especially families.  If we listen to God then we will 
know the correct choice.  I believe this can help us with other things 
too.  For people in college, at least for me, it was hard to balance 
Church with school.  I was there to get an education, and that is 
something that moves with us to the next life, so it is important.  
Sometimes we may have a conflict with studying for a big test, and going
 to FHE.  There are many other examples like that of course, but the 
point is we should just listen to hear what the right decision is.  
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