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Setting out a Lake Ontario Trolling Spread

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:32:00 +0000

Setting out a Lake Ontario Trolling Spread

Capt. James Samia

When first getting out onto the lake on a charter, setting out a Lake Ontario trolling spread in an orderly fashion in the least amount of time is of utmost importance. The sooner the lines are placed in the water, the sooner your chances of catching fish go up. As a charter captain, obviously I want my clients to have a great time and catch fish. This article will discuss the methods that we use to get our lines in the water as quickly as possible.

A lot of times I run my charters without a first mate. So, this is the method that I use when I am alone and fishing with clients who do not want to actively participate in putting out the lines. It will work in calm or rough seas, at least for the first two thirds of deploying the trolling spread. How many rods that are included in the trolling spread will depend upon how rough the seas are as well as what species of fish we are looking to catch.

The first two rods that go into the water are the dipsey diver rods. With no other rods to get in the way, this is the best time to let these typically long lines out without them getting tangled. Here’s how I do it. Keep in mind that the dipseys are directional and are supposed to be fished either on the port or starboard side depending on the directional setting on the back of the diver. The rods are placed in their appropriate holders and the lines are allowed to bleed out against the drags which are set so that the line bleeds out slowly. Doing it this way allows me to multitask. It will take several minutes for these lines to get out to the desired amount which at this point, I don’t even know how far that needs to be yet. The next line that I put in the water will tell me what I need to know.

The next line to go into the water is the probe rigger. This will let me know where the desired temperature is that I want to target. Once I know how deep the temperature is, I then can figure out how many feet of line I need to let out on the dipseys to get to the desired depth. Remember that the dipseys are bleeding out against the drags. If the temperature is reel deep, I may loosen the drag settings to let the dipsey lines bleed out faster. There is a feeling to this that comes with experience. Knowing where the temperature is located, is paramount to fishing success.

Depending on how far the dipseys have left to go to get to the desired depth, I will either stop and set the drags on them, or continue on and set the second or third downriggers. Again, this will be dictated by how deep in the water column that you need to fish. Once the dipseys and riggers are set, the last lines to be put into the trolling spread are the long lines off the boards. What gets put out here, and the how and when, depends on where the temperature is in the column and if you know in advance before heading out onto the lake where the temperature is.

If I know in advance where the temps are either through local contact with other charters or coming back out on the lake from a previous trip, I will modify how I go about setting out my trolling spread. The lake conditions will also play a part in this decision. If I am planning on running my Big Jon Otter Boats, I will let them begin to bleed out manually against a loose clutch on the planning board reels. They get put in the water after I find temperature with the probe rigger and if I am in search mode looking for fish. If I’m on fish and I know I’m going to get bit, I will wait on putting out the big boards as I can usually generate enough action with the riggers and the dipseys.

If it’s rough out, I will forgo the big boards and run a long line off the transom or “down the chute” as we call it. If the big boards have been deployed, the long lines, just by their nature, have to be let out one at a time. My method of deploying copper rods can be found here. Note that deploying long lines takes time and so doesn't fighting the fish that bite on them. For that reason, when at all possible, if I can catch fish without using long lines or using very few of them, all the better.

Being able to multitask when setting out a Lake Ontario trolling spread enables us to get our lines into the water that much quicker and gets us fishing that much sooner. If I’m running with a first mate or have clients that want to be actively involved in deploying the spread, that can make things go faster,too. We usually incorporate the additional help by sectioning off the boat either port or starboard, or by putting each person on an individual rod based upon their skill level.

If you would like more information or tips on lake Ontario Fishing, please check out our website at www.acecharters.com. We also have a fishing info and tips section your welcome to view,too.

Lake Ontario Speed - What's the right one?

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 20:10:00 +0000

Here's a link to an article I wrote back in April of 2013. Please check it out. I hope you enjoy it.

http://www.articlesbase.com/fishing-articles/the-need-for-speed-or-not-6529883.html

Lake Champlain vs. Lake Ontario a comparison

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:26:00 +0000

Here's a link to an article I wrote on another blog about Lake Champlain and Lake Ontario which I was hoping would have gotten used in another publication.. You can see it here.

Shimano 700/800 tricks of the trade.

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:55:00 +0000

http://www.thefishingblitz.com/article_shimano_tekota_drag_repair.html

Here's a link to an article I posted on the fishing blitz on Shimano 700/800 series reels and how to use them.

Lake Ontario fishing (playlist)

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:28:00 +0000

Lake Ontario fishing (playlist)

Photos for Google Maps

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:43:00 +0000

Lake Ontario salmon fishing two at a time!

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 04:48:00 +0000

Link to flasher fly informational article

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:16:00 +0000

As promised, here is the link to our newest article on trolling flasher flies. Once again I would appreciate any feedback both positive or negative. http://www.acecharters.com/article_flasher_fly.html

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:58:00 +0000

Welcome again to my new blog. Being first and formost a Lake Ontario charter fishing captain I am coming to terms with switching my off season skills to becoming more active on the internet. I do find delight in sharing information with the public and enjoy sharing information in regards to great lakes fishing, especially for king salmon. I will have an upcoming article discussing my thoughts on effectively fishing attractor fly presentations on www.acecharters.com and how I think why they work when they do. I would appreciate any feedback both positive and negative. What you think is important to me. My thought is that if we can make each other better fishermen then it's a win/win for all. God knows there are litterally a ton of Lake Ontario King salmon to be caught in the lake and why shouldn't we sgare the intell.

Sign up for a free Lake Ontario fishing trip

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 01:29:00 +0000

We are offering a free Lake Ontario fishing trip to a lucky individual who's name will be drawn out of a hat at the end of this fishing season. The rules are available on our website on this link http://www.acecharters.com/free_charter.html

Make sure you sign up for our newsletter as this is a requirement to be eligible.

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:36:00 +0000

Well were stuck right smack dab in the middle of winter and I can't help but think about fishing both past and present. in an effort to console myself I have been writing and adding articles to a new "informational section" on our website which is also new. So if you get a chance won't you please check it out and let me know what you think at http://www.acecharters.com/informational_articles.html
C'mon Spring!!!!!!!!

Lake Ontario Fishing Special Offer.

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:06:00 +0000

Lake Ontario Fishing Special Offer

Ace Charters with Capt.Jimmy Samia

I am offering a golden opportunity to fish for several days with my Co-Capt. Brent “Perky” Perkins and myself in preparation for the upcoming western end pro-am tournaments. We are planning to fish the dates of may 29,30,31 out of Wilson,NY and june 5,6,7 out of Oak Orchard,Ny.

Here’s the deal! We are offering a group of up to four people a fishing and lodging package if you book at least three consecutive days at either port. At a rate of $450.00 /day /group, or $112.50/person/day based on a group of four people, of for three days $337.50/person based on a group of four people, we will provide the following: Three eight hour days or longer of fishing and free lodging with us at each site. We stay in a 2004 30ft Sportsman trailer that sleeps eight people. There is a separate sleep area for your group as well. We will also provide fish cleaning. We will also provide all transportation while you are with us fishing.

Rest assured that our goal is to go out and catch fish in preparation for the upcoming tournaments. Over the past several tournaments that we have fished we have had many several top ten finishes. Our teams have also finished 7^th place overall for the lake wide cup three times. This is great opportunity to catch a lot of fish and also to get to fish with some new tackle/lure prototypes that are not available to the general public as of yet!

The only requirements on your end will be getting there and paying for what you want to eat and drink. Sometimes we cook out, too as there are supermarkets nearby to buy groceries and we can share this. Beer is O.K., too! If you are interested please contact me at 413-652-2063 or e-mail me at acecharters@roadrunner.com

Getting Ready for Spring

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:19:00 +0000

Getting ready for Spring

by acecharters » Wed Mar 09, 2011

Its been a long cold winter, but it should leed to some of the absolute best spring fishing that we have seen in years. This year we will be offering spring salmon trips on the western end of Lake Ontario at or very near the Niagra Bar out of the ports of Wilson and Oak Orchard. Limit catches of Trout and Salmon are the norm not the exception. In fact, the first of the prestigous Lake Ontario Pro-Ams will be held in Niagra County for just this reason You are invited to come Charter with us while we practice for this tournament. You will get to fish with new products that have not even been introduced to the market,yet.In past years as the Capt. of two different teams , I have been priveleged to have had a 2nd place and a top ten finish for the overall two legs of the western division's, "Best of the West" !
From here, we will be moving to Oak Orchard to prepare for the 2nd leg of the Pro-Am being held in Orleans County where the fishing has been historically phenomenal. Once again you are invited to come Charter with us during our practice sessions.
We are pleased to announce that discount rates and free accomodations are being offered as packages for these events. Please contact us for further info or check out our website at http://www.acecharters.com/ under 2011 schedule and rates,
Cpt. Jimmy Samia

Northeast Sportsman Show

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:08:00 +0000

We have just returned from the Hartford,CT convention center after a three day stint. We enjoyed talking to hundreds of people about salmon fishing and striper fishing aboard Ace Charters. We are planning to attend the Orono,ME and Augusta,ME sportsman shows coming up in March and April. Can't wait to get out on the water and do what we love so much to do.

Welcome to my new Blog

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:29:00 +0000

Hi folks and welcome to my new blog were you will find fishing reports for the upcoming season.