http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/ Posts and News from around the Addiction Recovery World. Sat, 26 May 2012 10:38:05 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/ http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/a39v3pcUtiU/257776-listen-aa-online.html Sat, 26 May 2012 10:24:57 GMT Hey, Does anyone know the websites where you can listen to AA meetings online, i know i had downloaded some of them onto a computer that broke and it would be great help for me to be able to take... Hey,

Does anyone know the websites where you can listen to AA meetings online, i know i had downloaded some of them onto a computer that broke and it would be great help for me to be able to take part of the information


Love, Anna ]]> Newcomers to Recovery laana http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257776-listen-aa-online.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257776-listen-aa-online.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/NtY1sWIKKkQ/257775-90-90-challenge-im-not-fully-convinced.html Sat, 26 May 2012 09:54:12 GMT Thanks for listening/reading :)

My therapist suggested to me since i'm really having a hard time deciding if I really am an alcoholic or if my drinking has become alcohol abuse due to using it to self medicate my depressed & anxious feelings & behavior over the relationships in my life + stress + etc.......

So this is what I was told to try:

1) 90 AA meetings in 90 days
2) don't drink (duh :))
3) distance myself from gatherings that involve alcohol
4) keep taking my antidepression/anxiety meds (I want off of them)
5) pray & read 30-60 min of the bible every day
6) journal how I feel each day & why and if I have the urge or desire or not
7) can my sponsor (who totally lost all my trust) & get a new one with at least 10 years of sobriety
8) spend min 20 minutes talking w/my husband every day about real life not BS
9) spend more time with my kids

Am I missing anything??? I know some have diff opinions on alcohol abuse which can be temporary and/or situational vs being an alcoholic. I've also shared alot of posts here on SR and I truly am still unsure about whether I am truly an alcoholic or not.

So this is my 90 day test...what do I have to lose right?!

Start/sober date: 5/20/12 :) ]]> Newcomers to Recovery jstar http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257775-90-90-challenge-im-not-fully-convinced.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257775-90-90-challenge-im-not-fully-convinced.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/-DlLOEIK5rA/257774-i-aprehended-thief.html Sat, 26 May 2012 09:51:30 GMT For me, withdrawal from alcohol (even if only three drinks), manifests in extreme anxiety. It is terrifying, and I can't be present for those around me.

This fine morning, I am 7 days free of anxiety. I have regained the sanity that the the thief of alcohol stole from me. It is a glorious thing actually.

Just wanted to put that out there into the universe. :a043: ]]> Newcomers to Recovery Change4good http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257774-i-aprehended-thief.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257774-i-aprehended-thief.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/mPwdEHhsE7Q/257773-have-any-you-experience.html Sat, 26 May 2012 09:36:11 GMT Have any of you Experience this ??? Hello to everyone.. As from my previous posts I have left my AH partner after relapasing twice after a 3 month stint in Rehab... I threatened that unless... Have any of you Experience this ???

Hello to everyone..

As from my previous posts I have left my AH partner after relapasing twice after a 3 month stint in Rehab...

I threatened that unless she went we were over and she agreed not just for that but it was essential she got back on track.. All her stuff is in my house ...

This time I noticed a completely different attitude in that there was a subtle undertone where somehow I had made it to easy for her... ?????? That somehow it was my fault that she didnt go to meetings, didnt do anything rehab asked of her and her replasing well wasnt really her fault.

I was informed that they recommend her moving interstate to help her.. I find it facinating - I realized recovery came first, no booze in house, encouraged her to attend meetings etc and i would of thought exposure to non ah people who lead positive lives would be helpful.. Now she falls into the trap of falling into a professional AA victim where she wants to take no accountabilty( boundaries) are important and simply lives in a bubble.

I emphasise I dont want to sound harsh here but really theres a commercial reality attached to being linked with a rehab center( not cheap) and a find it interesting that basically they want to hold her hand through her 3rd rehab.

Life go on.. It just reminds me again and again that everything revolves around the AH... Thats why it is a life of pain, anguish and disappointment. For me a could't see anything at the end of the rainbow.. ]]> Friends and Family of Alcoholics webber1 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-alcoholics/257773-have-any-you-experience.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-alcoholics/257773-have-any-you-experience.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/HFdmIwSNuaU/257772-fellow-bob-mould-fans.html Sat, 26 May 2012 09:35:09 GMT I offer these lyrics this fine morning:

My, my, my it's a beautiful world.
I like swimming in the sea.
I like to go on beyond the white breakers,
where a man can still be free.
Or a woman if you are one.
I like swimming in the sea.
My, my, my it's a beautiful world.
I like drinking Irish tea.
With a little bit of Lapsang Souchong.
I like making my own tea.
My, my, my it's a beautiful world.
I like driving in my car.
I roll the top down, sometimes I travel quite far.
Drive to the ocean, and stare up at the stars.
I like driving in my car.
All around is anger, automatic guns.
Death in large numbers.
No respect for women or our little ones.
I tried talking to Jesus,
He just put me on hold.
Said he'd been swamped with calls this weekend,
could not shake his cold.
And still this emptiness persists.
Perhaps this is as good as it gets.
You've given up a drink and those nasty cigarettes.
Now leave the party early, at least with no regrets.I watch the sun as it comes up, I watch it as it sets.
Yeah, this is as good as it gets.
My, my, my it's a beautiful world.I like sleeping with Marie.
She is one sexy girl, full of mystery.
She says she doesn't love me, she likes my company.
For now, thats good enough for me.
My, my, my it's a beautiful world.
I like swimming in the sea.
I like to go on beyond the white breakers,
where a man can still be free.
Or a woman if you are one.
I like swimming in the sea.
Yeah. ]]> Newcomers to Recovery Change4good http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257772-fellow-bob-mould-fans.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257772-fellow-bob-mould-fans.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/6EgxcU7l9fo/257771-cant-sleep-come-count-your-blessings-instead-sheep.html Sat, 26 May 2012 07:48:27 GMT Can't sleep?

Post a blessing that the insomniacs can come read on sleepless nights. I will start.

I am blessed with a dog who is so loving, fun and loyal, and he is blessed with the ability to sleep, as he is having dog dreams beside me in bed right now.. ]]> Newcomers to Recovery EternalQ http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257771-cant-sleep-come-count-your-blessings-instead-sheep.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257771-cant-sleep-come-count-your-blessings-instead-sheep.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/vK4f6v_CKmk/257769-where-all-new-jersey-people.html Sat, 26 May 2012 05:25:38 GMT Just figure I'd ask. Just being curious. ]]> Substance Abuse Edat84 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/substance-abuse/257769-where-all-new-jersey-people.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/substance-abuse/257769-where-all-new-jersey-people.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/cL1apUxTnLU/257768-5-day-methadone-taper-when-can-i-get-naltraxone-vivitrol-shot.html Sat, 26 May 2012 05:16:21 GMT Ok so I posted on here a few months ago about quiting Heroin cold turkey or going to rehab. I went to a 5 day detox and left AMA. It was a 5 day meth taper 25,20,15,10,5. I am trying to get the... Ok so I posted on here a few months ago about quiting Heroin cold turkey or going to rehab. I went to a 5 day detox and left AMA. It was a 5 day meth taper 25,20,15,10,5. I am trying to get the Vivitrol shot, or naltraxone pellet but I realize now that methadone takes a very long time to exit your system. If I knew that I would have stayed in rehab longer. Hinesight is 20/20 right? Does anyone have experience with this timeline? I now have 7 days off the methadone, and have been clean since, but was told by dr that it can take 14-20 days for the methadone to exit my system so I can get the pellet/shot. I am hoping someone here has experience with this and that timeline is shorter. I am hoping dr is saying longer than it really is to cover his ass. Like I said, I have been clean, but everyday is tough. Once I have the pellet/shot I know I cannot get high as I have used this many times with great success.

Thank you in advance. ]]> Newcomers to Recovery doinforaj http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257768-5-day-methadone-taper-when-can-i-get-naltraxone-vivitrol-shot.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257768-5-day-methadone-taper-when-can-i-get-naltraxone-vivitrol-shot.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/58y7kDJAMbw/257767-just-today-may-26-power-group.html Sat, 26 May 2012 05:11:31 GMT "Our understanding of a Higher Power is up to us.... We can call it the group, the program, or we can call it God." - Basic Text, p. 24

Many of us have a hard time with the idea of a Higher Power until we fully accept the depth of our own powerlessness over addiction. Once we do, most of us are at least willing to consider seeking the help of some Power greater than our disease. The first practical exposure many of us have to that kind of Power is in the NA group. Perhaps that's where we should start in developing our own understanding of God.

One evidence of the Power in the group is the unconditional love shown when NA members help one another without expectation of reward. The group's collective experience in recovery is itself a Power greater than our own, for the group has practical knowledge of what works and what doesn't. And the fact that addicts keep coming to NA meetings, day after day, is a demonstration of the presence of a Higher Power, some attractive, caring force at work that helps addicts stay clean and grow.

All these things are evidence of a Power that can be found in NA groups. When we look around with an open mind, each of us will be able to identify other signs of that Power. It doesn't matter if we call it God, a Higher Power, or anything else — just as long as we find a way to incorporate that Power into our daily lives.

Just for today: I will open my eyes and my mind to signs of a Power that exists in my NA group. I will call upon that Power to help me stay clean. ]]> Narcotics Addiction-12 Step Support lonestarTH http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/narcotics-addiction-12-step-support/257767-just-today-may-26-power-group.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/narcotics-addiction-12-step-support/257767-just-today-may-26-power-group.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/j58hZvxTvJE/257766-big-book-quote.html Sat, 26 May 2012 04:35:10 GMT *~*~*~*~*^ Big Book Quote ^*~*~*~*~*


"'There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which
is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance, that principle is contempt prior to
investigation.'"


Alcoholics Anonymous, Appendice II, Spiritual Experience, pg. 568 ]]> Alcoholism-12 Step Support Veritas1 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/257766-big-book-quote.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/257766-big-book-quote.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/wpeyVGP30LE/257765-twenty-four-hours-day.html Sat, 26 May 2012 04:34:04 GMT *~*~*~*^Twenty Four Hours A Day^*~*~*~* A.A. Thought for the Day In twelfth-step work, the fifth thing is Continuance. Continuance means our staying with prospects after they have started on... *~*~*~*^Twenty Four Hours A Day^*~*~*~*

A.A. Thought for the Day

In twelfth-step work, the fifth thing is Continuance. Continuance means our staying with prospects after they have started on the new way of living. We must stick with them and not let them down. We must encourage them to go to meetings regularly for fellowship and help. They will learn that keeping sober is a lot easier in the fellowship of others who are trying to do the same thing. We must continue to help prospects by going to see them regularly or telephoning them or writing them so that they don't get out of touch with A.A. Continuance means good sponsorship. Do I care enough about other alcoholics to continue with them as long as necessary?

Meditation for the Day

Every strong and beautiful flower must have a strong root in the ground. It must send a root down so that it may be rooted and grounded while at the same time it sends a shoot up to be the flower that shall gladden the world. Both growths are necessary. Without a strong root, it would soon wither. The
higher the growth upward, the deeper must be the rooting. My life cannot flower into success and helpfulness unless it is rooted in a strong faith, or unless it feels deeply secure in the goodness and purpose of the universe.

Prayer for the Day

I pray that my life may be deeply rooted in faith. I pray that I may feel deeply secure.


Hazelden Foundation PO Box 176 Center City, MN 55012 ]]> Alcoholism-12 Step Support Veritas1 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/257765-twenty-four-hours-day.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/257765-twenty-four-hours-day.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/yhTQ6AcEmwg/257764-daily-reflections.html Sat, 26 May 2012 04:31:50 GMT *~*~*~*~*^Daily Reflections^*~*~*~*~*

NO MAUDLIN GUILT


Day by day, we try to move a little toward God's perfection. So we need not be consumed by maudlin guilt...


AS BILL SEES IT, p. 15


When I first discovered that there is not a single "don't" in the Twelve Steps of A.A., I was disturbed because this discovery swung open a giant portal. Only then was I able to realize what A.A. is for me:


A.A. is not a program of "don't"s, but of "do's.
A.A. is not martial law; it is freedom.
A.A. is not tears over defects, but sweat over fixing them.
A.A. is not penitence; it is salvation.
A.A. is not "Woe to me" for my sins, past and present.
A.A. is "Praise God" for the progress I am making today.


Copyright 1990 ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS WORLD SERVICES, INC. ]]> Alcoholism-12 Step Support Veritas1 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/257764-daily-reflections.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/257764-daily-reflections.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/eVmOvoVx3bs/257763-new-forum-not-new-living-addicts.html Sat, 26 May 2012 04:17:21 GMT once again my home is in crisis... my son overdosed last night again... no 911 this time.. I just monitored his breathing and let him sleep it off... but in the meantime I searched his room and his... once again my home is in crisis... my son overdosed last night again... no 911 this time.. I just monitored his breathing and let him sleep it off... but in the meantime I searched his room and his car and found his stash box.. and so out the door he goes again... but this time there's no coming back.

my son is 23 years old you see. He has been doing drugs and alcohol since he was 12. As a mother, I did everything there was to do to try and help my son.. therapy.. family counselling... emergency rooms.. detox... rehabs.. AA/NA.. Al-Anon.. everything.. but his drug use continued to increase right up to being an IV heroin user... I threw him out last year for the second time... after he died of an overdose in October of 2010.. then he showed up here and fell asleep.. a needle fell out of his pocket.. we agreed to help him once more and got him on methadone.. but he's continued to use other drugs like meth.. and who knows what he overdosed on last night.. he's doing speed balls.. upper then downer... while he was passed out I searched and found his drugs and needles and such.. when he awoke.. the fireworks began.. but I called for reinforcements.. I had to .. I was afraid.. he was yelling and slamming things.. he took his bags.. but says he is coming back tonight to get more stuff.. my husband is here so I feel safe.. but won't hesitate to call 911 if he gets out of hand... I have been dealing with my sister's addiction to alcohol for over 30 years now.. I had to turn her kids over to CPS.. and they stayed in foster care for two years.. I am the enemy... to both my sister and son... so that is my introduction to the forum... it's nice to be here. ]]> Friends and Family of Substance Abusers deadcenter http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-substance-abusers/257763-new-forum-not-new-living-addicts.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-substance-abusers/257763-new-forum-not-new-living-addicts.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/vILNo_mdlsE/257762-slip-up.html Sat, 26 May 2012 03:47:56 GMT Didn't want to call it a relapse since I haven't actually decided to stop completely (yet). My original plan was to have one "cheat" day a week (with a cap on how much I can drink then), and I used it this week on sunday.

To be honest, I saw the slip-up coming. Friday night has been beer night since I was 17...

I had two beers mixed with an energy drink at dinner.

I didn't get drunk, and didn't feel like drinking more, but any way you look at it I had alcohol on a day I had decided I wouldn't... which implies I don't have as much control over my intake as I'd like.

Alcohol's gone from my system now but I'm still pretty wired from the caffeine so I'll try to do some work while I'm still up, but I'll have to think some more on this.

I just wanted to vent first. ]]> Newcomers to Recovery Someguy23 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257762-slip-up.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/257762-slip-up.html http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlcoholAndDrugAddictionHelp/~3/MdAWK7hFLgc/257761-boundaries.html Sat, 26 May 2012 03:02:50 GMT Recently, I posted about my AS moving home and we set boundaries. Someone asked about those boundaries. So, I want to explain what we have done and hopefully newbie parents may gain something from... Recently, I posted about my AS moving home and we set boundaries. Someone asked about those boundaries. So, I want to explain what we have done and hopefully newbie parents may gain something from this. But, you - I want to say 'experienced' parents can give us some advice.
Boundaries:
he must keep his full time job
as a member of this home, he must contribute toward upkeep (do chores)
he must make restitution to his GF (he took money from her) and yes, he took money from us, but we will get to that
he must not steal from us in anyway - of course if this happens we will find out after the fact.
He has asked us to hold his check book and credit cards; ok. He has asked us to watch him take his sub; ok. Please don't jump on me for this; it was his idea and if it works I will go with it.

Like it hasn't been said before - I hate this frickng H thing and everything that goes with it.
b. ]]> Friends and Family of Substance Abusers bookreader http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-substance-abusers/257761-boundaries.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-substance-abusers/257761-boundaries.html