<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948</id><updated>2024-08-28T19:44:31.757-07:00</updated><category term="Bible"/><category term="Christian"/><category term="Creation"/><category term="God"/><category term="boundaries"/><category term="definition"/><category term="evolution"/><category term="religion"/><category term="science"/><title type='text'>An Ecumenical Christian Perspective</title><subtitle type='html'>Seeking an understanding and interpretation of reality within the context of the Christian message, crossing denominational boundaries, informed by all present knowledge, relating to all world religions, for the benefit of humankind.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default?redirect=false'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>44</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-1473413013766202584</id><published>2015-09-12T06:06:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2015-09-12T06:07:31.985-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A Review of Thomas Jay Oord’s  “The Uncontrolling Love of God:  An Open and Relational Account of Providence</title><content type='html'>

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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;In this book Dr. Oord confronts the issues of good and evil
in the context of a Christian’s faith in God.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;He deals seriously with these ancient questions without discounting
honest, scientific observations about the randomness of reality.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;With precision and clarity, he addresses
difficult and perplexing philosophical and theological concepts.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Dr. Oord has written in other books on the
topic of God’s love.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Building on these
prior works, he presents an accessible yet scholarly model for conceptualizing
how God interacts with human lives and the physical world which he calls “essential
kenosis”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;While his approach is not
traditional, it honors faith and interprets the traditions of scripture.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I strongly recommend this most recent book by
Dr. Oord along with his prior works.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Thank you, Dr. Oord for providing a digital, advanced copy of your book.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;li style=&quot;color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;To which
Bible is one referring?&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;When Jews use
the word “Bible”, they are not referring to the same thing as Christians.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Even among Christians, the word does not
designate exactly the same collection of writings.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox all mean
something different by that word.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;li style=&quot;color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Calibri&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;&quot;&gt;
The Bible is not one book.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Bibles are collections of writings.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;These writings were written at various times
in history and were written by many different writers.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Each writing has its own history.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Some of the writings are written by one
person and other individual writings have a history of oral tradition,
collection, and editing.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;These writings
have things in common, but they also have their own separate and distinct perspectives
and theologies.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;All of the writings are
not saying exactly the same thing.&lt;/div&gt;
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Most, if not all people, cannot “just read it”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The protestant, Christian Bible contains
works that are written in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, or Koine Greek.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Most people cannot simple read these languages.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This Bible also has various textual histories
and no one copy says exactly the same thing as any other.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Most of the differences are minor, but some
are quite significant.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;One cannot “just
read it” because first someone has to decide which copy or text you will read.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But even deciding upon a particular text
leaves the question of translation.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Most
people have to rely upon a translation and there are many different
translations.&lt;/div&gt;
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The meaning of these Bibles is not “self-evident”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;One cannot simply “read it, and believe it”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;With every reading, there is a person and
community that are also interpreting the Bible.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;There is no reading without interpretation.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Not surprisingly, there are many different
interpretations and many different methods of interpreting Bibles.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The interpretative history of Bibles is long
and complicated, and, in some cases, outright contradictory.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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The various writings included in Bibles were not
written in a vacuum.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Each part was
written within a particular historical, linguistic, cultural, literary, and
religious context.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The more one
understands these various contexts, the more likely one will come closer to
understanding the original meanings.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Many of the great themes in Bibles can be appreciated and appropriated
by all who can read or listen.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However,
to understand the details and nuances takes hard work.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The more one studies, the more one will
learn, and the more one will realize that no one person will ever completely
know and understand everything about these religious works.&lt;/div&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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Please, don’t “believe” it.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Professing intellectual assent to the content
of these writings can result in all kinds of crazy ideas and behaviors.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Rather, I suggest one to read it, read what
others write about it, study it.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Let it
challenge your thinking.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Learn from the
religious legacy of your own human ancestors.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Ultimately, I hope that these writings will prompt personal, life
experiences and greater awareness of our common life together in ways that will
benefit human life.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I do not think these
Bibles are authorities over life, but rather testimonies to the ways humans have
oriented their lives for personal and common good.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Learn from these religious writings, but don’t
imitate them.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Be a real human.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;My father’s name is Terah and I was born in the city of Ur,
a very big city.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Many travel from Ur on
the river and cattle carts and donkey caravans as far away as Egypt.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Date palms grow around the city and canals
bring water for crops of barley, lentils, onions, and garlic.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I was lucky enough to even learn to read and
write a little from a local priest.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I
studied arithmetic, accounting, and Sumerian literature.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I also learned about all of the gods of the
city, tribes and people around Ur.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;All
of these gods were confusing to me, but I learned from the priest about them
and remembered his words.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The priest
spent quite a bit of time telling me about Sin, the moon god.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Sin, also referred to as En Zu, is considered
the ‘chief of the gods’ and the ‘creator of all things.’&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;His wife is Ningal and she bore him Shamash
and Ishtar, gods of the Sun and Venus.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;My childhood imagination could see En Zu riding across the sky on a
winged bull.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Early in my life
Terah moved our entire family to Haran, a city that also had a temple to the
God En Zu.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Of course Sarah, my wife,
came with us.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Also, Terah’s grandson,
Lot, came.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There were many others also,
family members, friends, and workers.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It
was a long and dusty trip.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We took all
of our sheep, goats, and donkeys.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The
donkeys helped us carry our belongings.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Sometimes the women and children would ride on the donkeys.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, the trip was not much different than
the life that we had living around Ur.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;We were always moving from place to place so that our sheep could graze
and have water.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;One of my earliest memories around Haran is about looking
into the sky and seeing the moon.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;&quot;&gt;The air is cool and it is
dark.&amp;nbsp; Looking up into the sky, the stars fill the night.&amp;nbsp; They are
shining bright and seem so close that I could reach up and grab one.&amp;nbsp; The
feeling of awe and wonder pour over me, lift me up, and all of the stars speak
to me.&amp;nbsp; They ask me, “Who are you to ask?”&amp;nbsp; But I have to ask
anyway.&amp;nbsp; From where do you come?&amp;nbsp; Why are you there?&amp;nbsp; What are
you?&amp;nbsp; I ask all of these questions of the stars, and they ask the same
questions back to me.&amp;nbsp; All of the questions make sense to me, but some say
I should not ask. However, this night is not about reason.&amp;nbsp; The stars are
speaking and I am flying across the heavens.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Just like En Zu riding the winged bull.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Flying on the overwhelming
feeling of awe, peculiarity, hope…….feelings that have no words……flying without
wings. As I flew without wings, I was outside of myself. &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;When I land, the stars keep asking, but give
no answers.&amp;nbsp; It is I that&amp;nbsp;must give the answer, maybe an answer of
faith.&amp;nbsp; I am not flying anymore.&amp;nbsp; However, I have to make my answer
work here and in all the places beyond where I have been found.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;My father, Terah, died while we lived in Haran.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It was a great loss.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The one to whom I looked for guidance was
gone.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I now had to seek guidance from a
strength within myself that included all the memories of my father, my past,
stories of the moon God.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I felt like I
was outside of myself, looking at my life.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Without my father, what was I to do?&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;In the midst of this loss, I knew, in spite of everything, I needed to
act for the sake of my life and my family.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;I needed courage to act.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I decided that I needed to leave Haran with all of my
family.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;At night, the moon spoke to
me.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I would think about my father and
all that he gave to me, but realized that even he could not give to me the land
and the skies, the stars and the moon, the sun and the clouds.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I could hear a great voice, a father, a god,
maybe even the God calling me on to a new adventure.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;But to take that first step toward something that I did not
know was hard.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Could I ever be sure that
my plan was right.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Most of the time life
for me is ordinary and this ordinary life seems to hold me in place.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why venture out?&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why risk a new thing?&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yet, I still seem to hear --- yet it was not
really a hearing --- an extraordinary call to a new place.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But finally I could feel that it was not this
extraordinary hearing alone that called me to a journey.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It was also the ordinary experiences of life
that were calling also.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The birth of a
child, the smile of my wife, the wonder of the land and the skies were leading
my in the process of life.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I simply
needed to trust, to have faith for the first and the next step.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;With my father gone, I now had to be
father.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In the steps of faith, I became
the father of many who also live a life of trust.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Experiencing Life:&amp;nbsp; A Personal, Ecumenical, Christian Perspective&amp;nbsp; By John R King, Jr.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Review of “THE NAKED JESUS: &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;A JOURNEY OUT OF CHRISTIANTIY INTO CHRIST”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I found this book to be honest, conversational, questioning
, and easy to read.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;As one who considers
himself to be a Christian, I liked the following themes that I found in the
book:&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;equality, inclusion, love, a
complete and fulfilled life through Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;The author does a good job of describing the shortcomings of
the institutional church; but, I was not totally convinced about “the naked
Jesus”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Can one ever really see “the
naked Jesus”? &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Years ago, I read a book
entitled “Which Jesus?”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It described
the many different ways that Jesus has been understood throughout history.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In “The Naked Jesus:&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A Journey Out of Christianity into Christ”, the
author describes his way of seeing Jesus as “the naked Jesus”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If the reader sees Jesus differently, maybe
the reader is not wrong even if he sees him differently than this author. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I liked the many questions posed in this book.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I would recommend that every reader of the
book try to answer those questions for themselves rather than only considering
the possible answers offered in this book.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I heartily recommend those who want to take Jesus seriously
to read this book as part of their understanding of Jesus.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, more than understanding, I hope for
every person an experience of the ongoing journey of life as whole, complete,
transformative.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I hope for an experience
of love.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;(Disclosure:&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The
author of “The Naked Jesus:&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A Journey
Out of Christianity Into Christ” provided a free copy in pdf format for me to
read in exchange for reviewing this book)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I trust in God, our Caregiver, the primal ground,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;creativity in heaven and earth and all.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;And in Jesus, the Christ,&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count: 1;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;our Leader and Teacher,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;anointed by the awareness of God,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;born of Mary, low, but greater than any ruler,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;suffered under Pontius Pilate,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;crucified, dead and buried,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;gone from life in the shadows of memory,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;on the third day raised from the dead,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;raised into our hearts, our lives;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;he is now our radicalized trust in God, our Caregiver;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;from there he comes, always,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;to judge us all.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I trust in Guidance by the consciousness of God,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;the global gathering,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;open participation with all,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;a generous path to a complete life,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;resurrection of the dead&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;and continuing abundant life.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Amen&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Why Some Do Not Need to Go To Church&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;1.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;The church is not a place to which we go.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Many Christians will agree with
this idea.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The church is made up of
Christians everywhere.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Christians are
the church.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;All of the buildings in
which they gather do not constitute the church.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;However, as many keep on agreeing, they also keep on saying that they
“go” to church.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Many of those who do not
need to go to church anymore need a better way to describe what the church is
doing when it gathers in a building and participates in a particular
organization.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I know.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It is simply easier to say that “we are going
to church”.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But we really are not “going
to church”.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;2.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Some of the reasons that Christians have
gathered over the history of Christianity, are no longer completely valid.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.75in; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -0.25in;&quot;&gt;
&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;In the earliest years, Christians gathered to
share their remembrances of Christ with each other.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;No one alive today has any historical
remembrances of Christ.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;In the earliest years, as those who had a
personal, historical experience of Christ began to die, Christians gathered to
preserve their testimony regarding their encounter with Jesus.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Obviously, this task is complete.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Christians gathered to have the scriptural
writings read to them because they could not read for themselves.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They could not read for themselves because of
a lack of reading ability and the lack of inexpensive, quick, easy, and readily
available, printed reading material.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Today we have the scriptures translated, printed, and recorded in many
different formats.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Gathering is not
necessary to have access to the scriptures.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Christian gatherings served a social purpose – a
good thing.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, many now have their
social needs met by gathering for work, gathering for meals in restaurants, for
public performances, sporting events, bars, education, etc.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Maybe what some Christians need is more time
in a quiet place, out of the public eye, alone with the creativity of God
leading their thoughts, alone with their prayers.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Maybe we have overloaded with our gatherings.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Christian gatherings were a source for learning.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In Western Europe, learning was preserved by
the church and was an important source of education through the early middles
ages.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Many great universities in the
United States were started by Christians.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Personally, I consider education as part of the cause of God.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, today, many forms of the church are
viewed as being against education or as a proponent of a narrow, pinched
version of education.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Even in the realm
of theology, the church seems to be a poor source of education and many times
seems to be at war against its most creative theologians.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;3.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Individual gatherings may not be the priority
that we have made it out to be.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Read the
Gospels.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The concept of the Kingdom of
God is much more prominent that the concept of the church.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Today some call the Kingdom of God the “rule
of God”, “the leadership of God”, or “the cause of God.”&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Maybe Christians, instead of going to church,
should be the church where ever they go. &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Maybe Christians should do church.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Act for God’s Cause!&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In every aspect of life, act for the common
good.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;4.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Many will
agree with some or all of these ideas, but still say Christians should gather
as individual, specific, visible expressions of church.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There is no problem with that.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, as long as such gatherings remain
celebrations of the narcissism of small differences, hour long excuses for
small talk, gossip, and fake bread with cheap wine, wasted money on buildings that are empty most of the week,&amp;nbsp;groups with leaders&amp;nbsp;compromised by the pay they need to live,&amp;nbsp;and organizations dominated
by self-important bullies who assume power based upon their wealth and
contributions, more and more people will discover that they no longer need to
go to church.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Calling such gatherings as
communion seems scandalous.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;5.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;From a larger, global, off-earth, ecumenical
perspective, the one church is made up of every Christian gathered on the land
and under the vault of the starry skies. Where else would a Christian expect
God to rule but in their lives, the very living Church. &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But it seems that God’s Cause has expanded
beyond what is named &quot;church&quot; and thus God’s Cause transcends the
church, guiding the freedom of thought in universities, cooperating and
enhancing the creative healing of human bodies and minds by doctors and in
hospitals, inspiring our political self-determination by the right of vote by
all, to name just a few examples. So the church is of less import than many
Christians would imagine. God&#39;s leadership in every human life is the goal and
its creative manifestation is transforming human life and continues as humans
make the best choices for the common benefit of all. May we focus on God’s
Cause in our lives lest our hearts and minds are diverted in such a way that we
make choices that lead to the consequence of a truly apocalyptic result, ending
our lives and the earth.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why would one
want to “go” to church when she can “be” and “do” church&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;&quot;&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;6.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;We do not have to separate our activities
between what cultivates Christianity and what does not. God is in all; and, in everything
we do, we can try to make a reflection of a Christian perspective. When we work
for an employer or rent an apartment to a new tenant, every act we try to
decide on the basis of common interest, these acts are our worship to God. When
we take a step in a new venture in faith, God finds us in the journey. In
ecstatic experiences, God finds us. When we see the beauty of nature, God finds
us. We do not have to read portions of a Biblical writing or a few verses. We
can read an entire book at a time. When we read Mark, God finds us. &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Meals, conversations, organizing trades to
create a new home, corporate meetings, donations to those in need,
celebrations, teaching, driving safely, advice to a friend, helping someone we
do not know in the grocery store are all our devotions and examples of church,
but more importantly, examples of God’s Cause in action.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Universities, hospitals, governments, grocery
stores, Red Cross, Habitat for Humanity, and more are community organizations
that help one connect and participate in community, those gatherings are our
communion. Whenever and wherever we act for the common interest, even in the
face of anger or malice, God finds us. He always finds us even when we do not “go”
to church..&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class=&quot;userContent&quot; data-ft=&quot;{&amp;quot;tn&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;K&amp;quot;}&quot;&gt;Part of the reason we celebrate Father&#39;s Day is because of the care they give to children in the context of what we call family.  Today, if you are a Father, we celebrate you.  But there are families with single moms, people without children, adoptive fathers, non-biological fathers, missing fathers, two fathers, two mothers and more.  We are all human and our children, all human children are part &lt;span class=&quot;text_exposed_show&quot;&gt;of our legacy and are the next step in the long human path.  On this Father&#39;s Day, I celebrate Father and also all those who care for children,  care given by taxes for education, care given&amp;nbsp;by a concerned hand on the fevered brow of a child, and every kind of care in between.  We are all part of the human family.  Let us all care for our human children.  We are family!&amp;nbsp; May God, our Caregiver, bless you!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I recently noticed a FB status that
referenced the first part of the blblical writing of Revelation, traditionally
placed as the last writing in the Christian New Testament.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This writing appears to have been controversial
since its beginning.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If not the last, it
was among the last of the New Testament writings accepted as canonical by the
church.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Some did not want Revelation to
be included in Christian scripture.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This
writing continues to be controversial.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;The imagery and symbolism is bizarre and outside of most human
experience.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The writing presents itself
as a description of visual and auditory ecstatic experience. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count: 1;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I can
say that I have never had an ecstatic experience anything like what is
described in Revelation, although many people report having dreams, myself
included.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Some of my dreams have been
scary and bizarre; but, I have never been motivated to write down any of my
dreams. &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I suspect that, if I did, none
of my descriptions would be as extensive and detailed as Revelation nor so
important or famous.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Even though the
study of humans reveals that humans dream, it seems that most of us do not
remember most of our dreams.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Although,
it seems as I get older and sleep more lightly, I seem to remember more of my
dreams.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, I think Revelation was
not exactly like a dream.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Many would
interpret it as a result of an ecstatic experience.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If indeed the writing is in some way prompted
by ecstasy, I doubt that all of the long, complicated, and detailed imagery was
part of the ecstatic experience.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But, it
may very well be a writing inspired by a state of ecstasy.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The content provided by a particular literary
genre, early Christian culture, persecution, and judgment against a political
power both oppressive and claiming more authority and ultimacy than anyone
person, organization, or system deserves.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count: 1;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I am a
very rational person, so the idea of ecstasy is hard for me.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Yet, I think I can speak of it a little since
I can claim at least two ecstatic experiences in my 58 years.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Other parts of the Christian scriptures and
other religious literature report ecstatic experiences.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It seems that many of these experiences are
described in terms of an experience of God.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;In our secular age some would reduce these experiences to chemical
interactions within the human brain.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Many of my Christian friends would not like for me to state that I am
quite alright with that interpretation.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;But I suspect that the completely materialistic among us humans would
also object to me stating that these strictly chemical interactions are still
an experience of God.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I view God as in all
and for all.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;God does not exist, but, in
some way, God is existence.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Probably
said much better by a famous theologian, God is Being-itself.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count: 1;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;For me,
an ecstatic experience-- in times of separation, isolation, experiences of
exile, persecution, loss, anguish, despair—can engender hope, assurance,
empowerment, and discernment that enables human life to continue.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Ecstasy seems to me to be beyond words.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;All of my words above are the result of a
rational mind trying to explain an experience of religious ecstasy---an
experience of God.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;None of the words
will do but they still need to be stated.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count: 1;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;For the
writer of Revelation, his ineffable experience of God, centered in the
Christian tradition, in the context of a real life experience of persecution
and exile started with a description of a vision of Christ:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;I turned around to see the voice that
was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and among
the lampstands was someone like a son of man, dressed in a robe reaching down
to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The hair on his head was white like wool, as
white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. &lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;His feet were like bronze glowing in a
furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. In his right hand
he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged
sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;The experience provided the writer with hope, assurance, empowerment,
and discernment for human life, a completing, growing , transforming life – an adaptive,
human experience that advantaged the writer and all the readers up to the
present whose reading of the words prompted the experience anew, for the
Christian, an experience of God in Christ.&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Relax, let go, do not be afraid of your own ecstasy. God might find you.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Does God really “speak”?&amp;nbsp;
Did he speak about slavery?&amp;nbsp;
Christians describe the Scriptures as the “word of God”.&amp;nbsp; If, as the ancient traditions say, “God speaks”,
how does he speak?&amp;nbsp; Personally, I do not
think that God has vocal chords nor does he cause vibrations that activate my
hearing so that I can hear him “speak”.&amp;nbsp;
If it happens, I think it happens in some other way.&amp;nbsp; And, if when we humans write or speak words
that in faith we describe as “words of God”, and even in faith adopting the
presupposition that they are the “words of God”, do they remain the words of
God forever?&amp;nbsp; Maybe some or much of human
words is mixed with God’s words.&amp;nbsp; Or
maybe God’s words are human words spoken for God as best we can.&amp;nbsp; As we make better choices, the best of the
past is no longer any good and “God speaks anew”.&amp;nbsp; Who decides which words are the “words of God”?&amp;nbsp; We have the preserved traditions, but I think
that they fail us too many times.&amp;nbsp; I have
heard all the reasons why the Bible is “FOR” slavery, and I have heard all the
reasons why the Bible is “AGAINST” slavery.&amp;nbsp;
If the Bible is the “word of God”, complete for all time, why would it
have been so hard for someone to have it written, “Do not own another human
being”?&amp;nbsp; Even assuming the traditions are
true, there seems to be a thousand interpretations of every word.&amp;nbsp; Some say that the “religious authorities”
decide what the “word of God” is.&amp;nbsp; The
pope is an example.&amp;nbsp; Certainly the
religious leaders of the US South said that slavery was endorsed and ordained
by God.&amp;nbsp; Oops, I think they got it wrong
or else God got it wrong.&amp;nbsp; Others say we
must submit to the authority of tradition, much like the Greek Orthodox.&amp;nbsp; The Protestants say the Bible is the
authority and when the problem with multiple interpretations raises its ugly
head, some Protestants say that the Bible is “self evident truth” and, with
passion and zeal and even combativeness, some want to impose their own version
of “self evident truth” on everyone else.&amp;nbsp;
Whatever the Bible meant or did not mean about slavery, many Christians
in the US felt slavery was a perfectly good thing at least up until the Civil
War and some persisted past that tragic history.&amp;nbsp; Others said that slavery was wrong long
before the Civil War.&amp;nbsp; At least in the
US, sometime around or just past the US Civil War, God finally made it clear…..Human
slavery is wrong!&amp;nbsp; So maybe, a gradual
building of a community’s inter-subjective consensus, periodically canonized,
punctuated by individual and community crisis so strong that the old is cast
aside and a new consensus emerges is a description of “God speaking”.&amp;nbsp; The emergence and creativity of the new
becomes the “word of God”.&amp;nbsp; So maybe in
the simplest terms, we make it up.&amp;nbsp; But
for myself, I would add that in the creativity of the new that we make up,
truly “God speaks”.&amp;nbsp; What took him so
long regarding slavery?&amp;nbsp; Or did we take a
long time to listen and hear?&lt;/div&gt;
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CREATIVITY SUPRISE&lt;/div&gt;
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One:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; God!&amp;nbsp; Bang? Or Bang! God?&amp;nbsp; Being Itself.&amp;nbsp;
Heat, expansion, and the arrow of time starts to fly, forward it flies. &amp;nbsp;God before time, after time, God has time. God
in time and more than time.&lt;span style=&quot;color: red;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Two:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; God.&amp;nbsp; In the falling apart and the pulling
together,&lt;/div&gt;
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is there no big
crunch?&amp;nbsp; God, the structure.&amp;nbsp; God in and God is and God of non-uniform
density hangs the stars, the galaxies, and all the great forms of the
universe.&amp;nbsp; Mystery pervades.&lt;/div&gt;
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A grounding of
all.&lt;/div&gt;
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Hydrogen, helium,
neutrinos, and photons swirl.&lt;/div&gt;
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Protostars,
black-body radiation, fusion begins, matter emerges, creativity stirs, stars
are born.&amp;nbsp; Supergiants. Giants.&amp;nbsp; Dwarfs. Sub-dwarfs.&amp;nbsp; Yellow, red, hot white, black.&lt;/div&gt;
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Elements, discrete associations, chemistry
appears. &amp;nbsp;God’s cauldronic brew of
quantum mechanics, electricity, and magnetism. &amp;nbsp;Everything is changing in ancient, deep
time.&amp;nbsp; Do not lose patience, billions of
years to go, God has time&lt;/div&gt;
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A principle of exclusion,
serendipitously, new things emerge. Great complexity. Infomatic matter,
emergent of an immanent God.&lt;/div&gt;
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Three:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Planetismals circle the
protostars, wanderers formed from disks of stardust, waiting to stagger across
a great cathedral vault. Solar systems. Suns. A sun.&amp;nbsp; Emergent suprises.&lt;/div&gt;
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Earth, our world, it melts.&amp;nbsp; Uranium and thorium and potassium are
captured, boiling the core, heat flows, plates shift, continents drift.&amp;nbsp; Frozen accidents or frozen minds?&lt;/div&gt;
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The geosphere,
rocks…water….air….life.&amp;nbsp; Rocks harden,
move, explode&lt;/div&gt;
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Rocks, water, air, life!&amp;nbsp; Changing, moving complexity.&amp;nbsp; Small, hot planets with no air….escaped.&amp;nbsp; Large, cold planets with no air…compressed to
liquid or solid.&amp;nbsp; Amazing earth with ice,
liquid, and vapor all held in a narrow range.&amp;nbsp;
Life, a reality of earth itself.&lt;/div&gt;
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Four:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Metabolism with unity and
diversity.&amp;nbsp; Among all the chemical possibilities,
why life?&amp;nbsp; Cells, multicellularity,
animals, neurons and neural nets.&amp;nbsp; Noetic
features deep in matter.&amp;nbsp; Behavior with
purpose.&amp;nbsp; More mystery:&amp;nbsp; knowing, vocation, God.&amp;nbsp; Symmetry, cephalization.&amp;nbsp; Fish, bugs, reptiles, dinosaurs, birds,
mammals, hominids.&amp;nbsp; A long evolutionary
process.&amp;nbsp; All with a place, a purposeful
niche in which to compete.&lt;/div&gt;
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Five:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Primates, Apes.&amp;nbsp; Genes proceed but now learning and information
and community emerge.&amp;nbsp; Biological fitness
moves toward social fitness.&amp;nbsp; The bodies
slow down and the mind speeds up.&amp;nbsp;
Consciousness warms, grows hot, the bright flame of thought appears.&lt;/div&gt;
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Homo sapiens survive.&amp;nbsp; Humankind.&lt;/div&gt;
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Six:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Transcendence’s
appearance.&amp;nbsp; God spoke, but no one
heard.&amp;nbsp; God speaks, humans hear.&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style=&quot;color: red;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Beginnings struggle to be understood by those who came from the
beginnings.&amp;nbsp; Many knows the details, no
one knows the mind of God. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Creativity races forward on a wave of
words.&amp;nbsp; Good and evil, past and present,
shall and shall not.&amp;nbsp; A place to choose,
to fall back or to step forward, to not quite reach our humanity or to reach
beyond all that we have been.&lt;/div&gt;
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Seven:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; God rests in the temple
universe.&amp;nbsp; We stand in awe of the starry
vault of the heavens as we fall on our knees on the lands of our earthly home.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; font-family: &amp;quot;Tahoma&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;Spirituality
without words is silent. Spirituality without acts is impotent. Religion
without spirituality is false. The entire, complete experience of what is
considered to be the most important in all of life is a spiritual experience
that energizes the words of those that dare to speak and motivates the actions
of those who act for the common good of all. Both the inner experience and the
words and actions of the prophet are needed for a vibrant religious faith.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/6957428027721699270/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2012/05/spirituality-and-religion.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/6957428027721699270'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/6957428027721699270'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2012/05/spirituality-and-religion.html' title='Spirituality and Religion'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-162895167781830831</id><published>2012-05-22T07:29:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2012-05-22T07:29:41.575-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Creativity and Hope</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;
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years ago our family moved to a little town in Florida, Jupiter. We lved in a
house on Pinetree Circle. In front of the house was a small hedge of Ixora
under the front picture window. As I grew and the Ixora grew, I learned how to
care for that little hedge. Making sure it had the right nutrients to have
wonderful blooms and trimming it so it looked neat and tidy.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; font-family: &amp;quot;Tahoma&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol;&quot;&gt;·&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; font-size: 7pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; font-family: &amp;quot;Tahoma&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;Occassionally,
I have the&lt;span style=&quot;display: none; mso-hide: all;&quot;&gt; privilege of trimming the
small Xiora hedge that grows in front of my house in Miami,FL. That simple act
reminds me of the past and gives me hope for the future, ever grateful to be
able to cooperate with all of the creativity that surrounds us. Join with me in
celebrating the guidance of creativity that draws near to each of us and finds
us in these kinds of miraculous moments of remembering andpri&lt;/span&gt; privilege
of trimming the small Ixora hedge that grows in front of my house in Miami,
FL.&amp;nbsp; That simple act reminds me of the
past and gives me hope for the future, ever grateful to be able to cooperate
with the creativity that surrounds us.&amp;nbsp;
Join with me in celebrating the guidance of creativity that draws near
to each of us and finds us in these kinds of miraculous moments of remembering and
hope.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/162895167781830831/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2012/05/creativity-and-hope.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/162895167781830831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/162895167781830831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2012/05/creativity-and-hope.html' title='Creativity and Hope'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-1117133128371854418</id><published>2012-05-12T19:28:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2012-05-12T19:28:37.707-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>• Many different views related to sex can be found in the group of writings that we call the Bible. From a Christian standpoint, many of them would be judged to be wrong. Examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Executing those who engage in sexual intercourse during the seven days of the menstrual period.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Stoning for both the man and woman for adultery.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Toleration of polygamy.&lt;br /&gt;
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4. Levirate marriage.&lt;br /&gt;
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5. Endogamy.&lt;br /&gt;
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6. Cutting off a woman&#39;s hand for touching a man&#39;s private parts.&lt;br /&gt;
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7. Social regulations surrounding adultery, incest, rape, and prostitution considered mainly from the perspective of male property rights over women.&lt;br /&gt;
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8. A bride found not to be a virgin should be stoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some Christians, exercising their religious liberty and the right of personal conscience along with a Christocentric interpretation of their Christian faith, now assert that passages in the Bible related to homosexuality have either been misinterpreted or are simply wrong. These Christian may be wrong, but those that follow a more traditional view may also be wrong just as some Christians in the past were wrong about their interpretation of the Bible regarding slavery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/1117133128371854418/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2012/05/many-different-views-related-to-sex-can.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/1117133128371854418'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/1117133128371854418'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2012/05/many-different-views-related-to-sex-can.html' title=''/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-247275704472991520</id><published>2012-04-10T11:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2012-04-10T11:50:25.141-07:00</updated><title type='text'>An Ecumenical Christian Theology?</title><content type='html'>In 1988, Hans Kung&#39;s book &quot;Theology for the Third Millennium&quot; was published in English by Doubleday.&amp;nbsp; He argued for a theology that served the entirety of Christianity while remaining&amp;nbsp; intent on the Scripture and the Gospel.&amp;nbsp; He called for a theology the respected tradition, theologians should be responsible in the face of history without&amp;nbsp;ignoring contemporary issues.&amp;nbsp; He wanted a theology that was Christocentric, distinctively Christian while addressing the whole globe.&amp;nbsp; Finally, he wanted a theology that was occupied with teaching and truth while remaining practical, that did not ignore life, renewal and reform.&lt;br /&gt;
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He contends that we are in a shift of paradigms from the most current modern enlightenment paradigm to what he calls an ecumenical paradigm.&amp;nbsp; Such a shift takes quite a while.&amp;nbsp; Many of us were born during the shift and the shift will&amp;nbsp;continue well after we are dead.&amp;nbsp; Will Christianity survive?&amp;nbsp; What do you think?</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/247275704472991520/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2012/04/ecumenical-christian-theology.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/247275704472991520'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/247275704472991520'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2012/04/ecumenical-christian-theology.html' title='An Ecumenical Christian Theology?'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-4152502347861954255</id><published>2011-01-26T09:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-26T09:11:11.518-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Christian Unity and Diversity</title><content type='html'>Humans like to categorize. In many cases, we categorize based upon similarities. Apples, bananas, and oranges are fruits. Green beans, corn, and broccoli are vegetables. There is almost always disagreement about what belongs or does not belong in a particular category. Some people think tomatoes are vegetables. Others think they are fruits. We categorize almost everything: food, houses, plants, minerals, gases, solids, ideas, politics, nations, races, and people. This process helps us understand our world. Most words in and of themselves are categories. Food is something that humans eat as opposed to things we do not eat. Categories are how we think. Categorizing helps us understand our reality and communicate with other people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Christians, by way of a long and complicated history, have attempted to define what a Christian is. How do you know if you are a Christian or not? Who qualifies to be a Christian? Christians have attempted to define the category of “Christian” and to establish the boundaries of the category. One of the earliest controversies within Christianity was over whether a non-Jew could be a Christian. Did one need to become a Jew first in order to be a Christian? Increasingly, Christians defined the category by what beliefs were necessary in order to be a Christian. If one did not believe certain things, then one was not a Christian. Christians would claim that the&amp;nbsp;value of being a Christian was a happy life on earth and eternal life with God. If one was not a Christian, then life would be incomplete and eternity would be spent apart from God. For many Christians, “correct belief” was very important for how they defined the category of Christian. If one did not have a “correct belief”, then one did not receive the Christian reward.&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, “correct belief” remains the way that many define the category of Christian. However, it is obvious to everyone that those who claim to be Christian hold a great diversity of beliefs, many of which are contradictory. With all of the competing ideas about what is “correct”, how can one ever know what is right? Is Christianity really about being “right”? Increasingly, some Christians embrace this diversity as a good thing. Beliefs result from many influences that result in our own individual perspective that is right for each individual but cannot encompass the whole truth. Our beliefs may not even be “correct”; however, our Christian perspective guides us to a life that is whole, complete, and satisfying.&lt;br /&gt;
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Generally, when I try to express an ecumenical perspective of Christianity, I observe three basic reactions. From those who embrace diversity, I observe a resistance to any description of what is common to all Christians. I think they resist any common description of Christianity because they fear that it will be prescriptive. It is no wonder that they have this kind of fear; because, for those who emphasize unity, I observe a tendency to make Christianity exclusive to their own understanding of the faith. Orthodox Christians emphasize the authority of tradition, Roman Catholics emphasize the authority of the Pope, and many Protestants emphasize the authority of the Scriptures. Each has a tendency to use authority to enforce a particular set of “correct beliefs” which almost always results in excluding someone from the faith. Others fear that “ecumenical” means reducing Christianity to the “least common denominator.”&lt;br /&gt;
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For myself, diversity is obvious and good. Each of us needs to decide for ourselves what is bad, good, and better. Diversity of opinion is not going away, and openness to different opinions may enrich and improve your life. However, there must be some unity or commonality to the category of Christian in order for the category of Christian to have any meaning at all. Finally, Christianity is not arithmetic. Ecumenism may emphasize commonality but it has nothing to do with diminishing Christianity by calling it the “least” nor does it have anything to do with the arithmetical concept of denominators. &lt;br /&gt;
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So, from my own ecumenical Christian perspective:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. A Christian SELF identifies as a Christian.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. A Christian starts and founds Christian identity in the Jewish and Christian writings contained within the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. A Christian experiences and reacts to reality from a life orientation of faith and trust.&lt;br /&gt;
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4. A Christian centers life in an understanding of Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;
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5. A Christian acts for the common good of all, even in the face of hate, anger, or malice.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/4152502347861954255/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2011/01/ecumenical-christian-perspective-unity.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/4152502347861954255'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/4152502347861954255'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2011/01/ecumenical-christian-perspective-unity.html' title='Christian Unity and Diversity'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-3727884251888996911</id><published>2010-08-10T07:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-10T07:59:09.163-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Big Tent Christianity Synchroblog</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigtentchristianity.com/2010/08/big-tent-christianity-synchroblog/&quot;&gt;Big Tent Christianity Synchroblog&lt;/a&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/3727884251888996911/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-tent-christianity-synchroblog.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/3727884251888996911'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/3727884251888996911'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-tent-christianity-synchroblog.html' title='Big Tent Christianity Synchroblog'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-4898359998176443507</id><published>2010-08-10T07:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-10T07:57:33.156-07:00</updated><title type='text'>What is Spirituality?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href=&quot;http://alternativespirituality.suite101.com/article.cfm/whatisspirituality&quot;&gt;What is Spirituality?&lt;/a&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/4898359998176443507/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/08/what-is-spirituality.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/4898359998176443507'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/4898359998176443507'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/08/what-is-spirituality.html' title='What is Spirituality?'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-3522408248703627700</id><published>2010-08-04T16:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-04T16:38:05.113-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Experiencing God</title><content type='html'>Encounters with God come in all kinds of experiences. The joy and comfort of assurance that God is always with us; but, also in the experience of Her absence and complete hiddenness. It boggles the mind and confounds our logic, but it should not mean that Christians should lack a discipline of our mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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To me the layers of meaning of Jesus on the cross are many and complex. Just a hint of this seems evident in Jesus’ experience of forsakenness when, at the same time,&amp;nbsp; the centurion sees his suffering and death and hears Jesus’ cry, the centurion sees the Son of God. Quite an amazing scene. One that may takes years of contemplation to come close to understanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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For myself, though, in whatever way we experience God, the power of our experience of God is only evident by the way in which&amp;nbsp;our actions&amp;nbsp;transform the lives of others, and dare I say -- transform our acts into the acts of God. Where would any of us be if Moses had encountered God on the mountain and just stayed up there to glory in his experience? What if Jesus had continued to wander around the countryside amazing the crowds without ever riding into Jerusalem to confront religious and political power?&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus called upon God even in his forsakenness, an encounter that continues to transform our lives.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/3522408248703627700/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/08/experiencing-god.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/3522408248703627700'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/3522408248703627700'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/08/experiencing-god.html' title='Experiencing God'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-2929601171192976075</id><published>2010-07-29T08:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-29T08:08:37.392-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A Definition of Religion</title><content type='html'>Many in American today like to distinguish between &quot;religion&quot; and &quot;spirituality&quot;.&amp;nbsp; Some say that they are no longer religious but they are spiritual.&amp;nbsp; I have read that Europeans have no third category such as &quot;spirituality&quot;.&amp;nbsp; One is either &quot;religious&quot; or &quot;irreligious&quot;.&amp;nbsp; Hmmmm, I wonder if that is true of Europeans?&lt;br /&gt;
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I have previously offered a definition of religion on this blog.&amp;nbsp; I wonder if those who prefer &quot;spirituality&quot; would want to reject religion as I have tried to define it?&amp;nbsp; In searching for definitions of religion, one will find many very different ones and many different approaches.&amp;nbsp; What are people rejecting when they say that they are not religious but rather they are spiritual?&amp;nbsp; While I have some ideas, I am not entirely sure what they mean.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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However for now, maybe as a step toward understanding religion and spirituality, I will repeat below a definition of religion offered by a philospher of religion, Geddes Maggregor.&lt;br /&gt;
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Religion is chararacterized by&lt;br /&gt;
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1)&amp;nbsp; interest in,&lt;br /&gt;
2)&amp;nbsp; concern for,&lt;br /&gt;
3)&amp;nbsp; encounter with,&lt;br /&gt;
4)&amp;nbsp; sense of absence from,&lt;br /&gt;
5)&amp;nbsp; sacrificial ove of,&lt;br /&gt;
6)&amp;nbsp; commitment to, and&lt;br /&gt;
7)&amp;nbsp; joy over,&lt;br /&gt;
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that which is judged to be more important than anything else in one&#39;s experience and which, so conceptualized, is taken to be a symbol of that which lies at the heart of all possible experience.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this is a good definition.&amp;nbsp; I like that it does not have any primary emphasis on &quot;beliefs&quot; and seems to put more emphasis upon personal experience.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although, what keeps this definition of religion from being totally subjective and private?&amp;nbsp; Is the spirituality that Americans want to retain more subjective and private than what they consider to be religion?</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/2929601171192976075/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/07/definition-of-religion.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/2929601171192976075'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/2929601171192976075'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/07/definition-of-religion.html' title='A Definition of Religion'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-7833354272773052702</id><published>2010-07-14T08:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-14T08:10:30.916-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Enoch Factor:  The Sacred Art of KNowing God</title><content type='html'>&lt;span&gt;&lt;iframe align=&quot;left&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=hobbyor-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=bpl&amp;amp;asins=1573125563&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;amp;bc1=000000&amp;amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; style=&quot;align: left; height: 245px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 5px; width: 131px;&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Many people in America are moving away from religion but still like to see themselves as spiritual. They are rejecting the judgemental, out-of-touch, authoritarian approach that has predominated much of the Christian church in America. They identify &quot;religion&quot; with much of the parts of church life that they do not like, and they identify &quot;spiritual&quot; with what they want to keep.&lt;br /&gt;
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This book can help you affirm, expand, and even transform your spiritual life. The author&#39;s approach is accepting of many different perpsectives as evidenced by the quotes sprinkled throughout the book from various religious leaders and authors. The best part of the book is the author&#39;s personal story that is woven throughout the entire book. His experience makes the book credible. Many religious leaders may also be able to identify with his experiences.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the book has a Christian perspective, it is not proclaiming&amp;nbsp;the views of any&amp;nbsp;particular Christian denomination . The book also is not exclusively Christian either. The author affirms the insights and values of other religious traditions. While much of the author&#39;s perspective can be found in the writings of other Christian mystics, the material here is much more readable for the modern reader. Insights from eastern mysticism are also incorporated into the book.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a book that one can&amp;nbsp; use to expand her mind and expand her spiritual consciousness.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/7833354272773052702/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/07/enoch-factor-sacred-art-of-knowing-god.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/7833354272773052702'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/7833354272773052702'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/07/enoch-factor-sacred-art-of-knowing-god.html' title='The Enoch Factor:  The Sacred Art of KNowing God'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-8451543053458446137</id><published>2010-06-04T08:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-04T08:50:19.216-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Philip Clayton on Science/Religion Revolution</title><content type='html'>&lt;object height=&quot;300&quot; width=&quot;400&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowfullscreen&quot; value=&quot;true&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowscriptaccess&quot; value=&quot;always&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=11236024&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1&quot; /&gt;&lt;embed src=&quot;http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=11236024&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;true&quot; allowscriptaccess=&quot;always&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; height=&quot;300&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://vimeo.com/11236024&quot;&gt;Philip Clayton: &quot;The Religion-Science Revolution and Five Minds for the Future&quot;&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href=&quot;http://vimeo.com/metanexus&quot;&gt;Metanexus Institute&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href=&quot;http://vimeo.com/&quot;&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/8451543053458446137/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/06/philip-clayton-on-sciencereligion.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/8451543053458446137'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/8451543053458446137'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/06/philip-clayton-on-sciencereligion.html' title='Philip Clayton on Science/Religion Revolution'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-904027605243429584</id><published>2010-05-05T09:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-05T09:29:40.431-07:00</updated><title type='text'>MY REACTIONS TO &quot;Ecumenism Means You, Too&quot; by Steven R. Harmon</title><content type='html'>&lt;span&gt;&lt;iframe align=&quot;left&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=hobbyor-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=bpl&amp;amp;asins=1606088653&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;amp;bc1=000000&amp;amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; style=&quot;align: left; height: 245px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 5px; width: 131px;&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;I&amp;nbsp;could call this a &quot;book review&quot;, but it is not.&amp;nbsp; I hated doing book reviews.&amp;nbsp; This short blog is my personal reaction to the recent book &quot;Ecumenism Means You, Too&quot; by Steven R. Harmon.&amp;nbsp; It is a short book and easy to read.&amp;nbsp; For me, some of it was quite inspiring.&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect that a person&#39;s attitude towards authority and dogma will influence his reaction to this book.&amp;nbsp; I have read several discussions regarding Christian unity and divisions recently.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Some have contended that there are so many differences between Christians that the designation &quot;Christian&quot; should be abandoned.&amp;nbsp; Others have argued that their interpretation of Christianity is &quot;right&quot; and therefore all the others are &quot;wrong&quot;.&amp;nbsp; In the face of these discussions, it is hard to imagine an ecumenical perspective on Christianity.&amp;nbsp; Nevertheless, I do.&amp;nbsp; And with a blog title &quot;An Ecumenical Christian Perspective&quot;, how could I ignore this little gem of a book.&lt;br /&gt;
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The author does not present a naive view of ecumenism.&amp;nbsp; He knows the challenges.&amp;nbsp; However, in spite of that, the book has a positive and inspiring tone.&amp;nbsp; There are three very good things about this book.&lt;br /&gt;
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First, it acts as a very good source for information about Christian ecumenism.&amp;nbsp; This part of the book is good for students and those who want to know more about the topic and want to become involved with ecumenism.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second,&amp;nbsp; the chapter on the theology of ecumenism was inspiring and scripturally based.&amp;nbsp; As the author is from a Baptist tradition, it is not suprising that he would emphasize the scriptural basis of ecumenism.&lt;br /&gt;
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Third, the author does not stop with theology or scripture.&amp;nbsp; He offers ten practical things that any Christian can do for the unity of the Church.&amp;nbsp; One of my favorite suggestions is &quot;....learn all you can about the &quot;Great Tradition&quot; to which all denominational traditions are heirs.&quot;&amp;nbsp; Another of my favorites is &quot;.....join other Christians in serving as advocates for social justice and environmental responsibility.&quot;&amp;nbsp; This gives you a flavor.&amp;nbsp; I heartly recommend you read the book to get a full meal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking of a full meal, I have another practical suggestion for maintaining and enhancing the unity of the Christian church.&amp;nbsp; I learned in seminary that in the early tradition of the church there was the practice of a &quot;love feast&quot;.&amp;nbsp; There may be some Christians that still practice that tradition. I am not sure.&amp;nbsp; In a very simple way, many Church suppers are just that.&amp;nbsp; But I have never been a part of a practice that was explicitly called a &quot;love feast&quot;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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I think Christians should start a renewed tradition of a love feast.&amp;nbsp; My guidance for it would be.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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1.&amp;nbsp; No priest, bishop, pope, deacon, pastor, minister or any other &quot;official&quot; person within any church may officiate at the love feast.&lt;br /&gt;
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2.&amp;nbsp; The full meal will be prepared and served only by lay people.&lt;br /&gt;
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3.&amp;nbsp; No one can be excluded ----- not based upon church membership, belief, lack of belief, social status, race, ability to pay, gender, sexual orientation, nationality, etc.&amp;nbsp; There can be no reason to exclude anyone except those who are violent.&amp;nbsp; The only basis of inclusion is that a person wants to participate and they are willing to be peaceful.&lt;br /&gt;
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4.&amp;nbsp; Everyone who is able will pay toward the meal and toward the meal of those who may not be able to pay.&lt;br /&gt;
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5.&amp;nbsp; The only formal part of the meal will be a prayer of gratitude for the meal and for everyone who particpates.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/904027605243429584/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/05/my-reactions-to-ecumenism-means-you-too.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/904027605243429584'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/904027605243429584'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/05/my-reactions-to-ecumenism-means-you-too.html' title='MY REACTIONS TO &quot;Ecumenism Means You, Too&quot; by Steven R. Harmon'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-6409436289756673141</id><published>2010-04-23T06:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T06:39:53.797-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Our Common Faith!</title><content type='html'>Are you reading aloud the gospels, yet? Are you reading aloud the gospels? &lt;br /&gt;
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I can hear you. I hear the same words.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you reading the gospels?&lt;br /&gt;
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I am reading the same words.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you following Jesus? I am right beside you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you following Jesus? Have you followed Him to the cross yet? See him there! &lt;br /&gt;
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I am standing right next to you.&lt;br /&gt;
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The centurion sees the suffering of Jesus, he hears the anguish, and he smells the stench of death.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you standing at the foot of the cross? I am standing right next to you. In the suffering of Jesus, in Jesus Himself the centurion saw the Son of God. Do you see Him? I am looking at the same One.&lt;br /&gt;
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We may have our “big tents” or our “small tents”. While all of our differences are interesting and even necessary, while we understand all the problems with the different ideas, dogmas, world-views, and perspectives, while we may not even like each other at times, I invite you all to my “big tent”. In my big tent, in essence, Christianity is not some eternal idea, or dogma, or world-view. In my big tent, Christianity is a message and way of salvation, the all-determining significance of a historical figure, Jesus the Christ.&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you not want to join me in my big tent? That is alright. I am still standing. Still seeing. Still hearing. Still smelling. At the foot of the cross.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the foot of the cross there is no tents, no fences, no circles, no boundaries. I am here…..are you? I am at the foot of the cross? Are you? &lt;br /&gt;
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I can see you at the foot of the cross and there in the suffering face of Christ, I see God. I look over and there you are and again I see the face of God.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/6409436289756673141/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/04/our-common-faith.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/6409436289756673141'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/6409436289756673141'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/04/our-common-faith.html' title='Our Common Faith!'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4971378214270253948.post-2888843041014638430</id><published>2010-04-22T06:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-22T06:30:01.698-07:00</updated><title type='text'>What is a Christian?</title><content type='html'>A Christian is one who experiences God through Jesus Christ as the ultimate value. Jesus is the one, historical, Jesus of Nazareth as presented in the four gospel accounts. A Christian’s experience of God results in a faith that is characterized by devotion and commitment to, love and fear of, and joy in God. A Christian’s faith is expressed through private and social symbolic rites. A Christian’s faith responds to life and God’s Spirit with intentional acts on behalf of the well being of all.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/feeds/2888843041014638430/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/04/what-is-christian.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/2888843041014638430'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4971378214270253948/posts/default/2888843041014638430'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ecumenicalchristianperspective.blogspot.com/2010/04/what-is-christian.html' title='What is a Christian?'/><author><name>John King</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10064451981374409565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qb85AeAZl8U/TFGbRNzmGHI/AAAAAAAAAMA/q_BcYdq6e2s/S220/john+king+april+24+2010+cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>