Baconsthorpe? I'd never have thought of looking there.* The names (especially the surname "Lane"), home parishes, and dates fit, but I wonder why they married there. I hope to be able to get the licence affidavit, if it still exists, to see if it might answer that question.

But that's for a future post. Right now I want to say thank you to Jean, the FreeREG volunteer who took the time to contact me about a marriage record that's eluded me for months … and I also want to thank the unknown volunteers who are freely giving of their time to transcribe that record and thousands like it.

If you're not familiar with this wonderful resource, here's a brief description from the What is FreeREG page:

Our objective is to provide free Internet searches of baptism, marriage, and burial records, which have been extracted from parish registers and non-conformist church records in the UK. The recording of baptisms, marriages and burials in parish registers began in England in 1538 and is separate and distinct from the civil registration process that began in 1837. (The latter is covered by our companion project FreeBMD) Our aim is to make it easier for researchers, no matter where they are in the world, to locate a specific record relating to their ancestor within a parish register.

<snip>

What is possible with FreeREG is for an individual researcher to enter an ancestor's name, specify a search for a baptism, marriage or burial, state a date range to search, state a county, (and optionally, narrow it down to one town or village), and then search the database for the match using those criteria.

Again, my thanks to Jean and her FreeREG colleagues. One final note - a tip for searching that Jean passed along to me: It's best to tick the soundex box for the surname, leave the Christian name field empty, and enter a date range if you expect a lot of hits. This is because transcribers are instructed to transcribe as written, with abbreviations, spelling variants, etc., but there is no soundex on the Christian name search like there is on the surname name search.

(Bold font reflects the pre-printed register text, while italicised font indicates hand-written entries. Until I can determine the copyright status and obtain permission to publish excerpts of images on the LDS pilot site, a transcript is the next best thing. This sort of thing, of course, loses a lot in transcription.)

1760 (26)
Banns of Marriage between Now, owing to the idiocy of the Post Office, called Salhouse
No. 101
John Jex of the Parish of Sallows in the County of Norfolk single man and Hannah Cubitt of the Parish of Wells single woman were Married in this Church by Licence this twenty-fourth Day of March in the Year One Thousand Seven Hundred and sixty by me Jas. Robinson Rectr.
This Marriage was solemnized between Us
John Jex
Hannah Cubitt
In the Presence of Henry Jackson
Robert Cubitt

Wells Parish Registers: Marriage Register 1754-1787. Norfolk Record Office, PD 679/13. Page 26. Image online at http://pilot.familysearch.org - England, Norfolk Parish Registers, Wells Banns, Marriages 1754-1787. Image 18 of 88. Accessed 2 May 2010.

Update 21 May 2010: I've just found the page in which the images are sourced to the Norfolk Record Office. At the top right of the "browse" page, there is a link entitled "About this collection" which does indeed specify that the Norfolk Record Office is the repository of the original registers. It's entirely possible this was there all the time and I just flat didn't see it; in which case I apologise to the good folks at the FamilySearch pilot site for saying the images weren't sourced to the NRO.

I still have to disagree with their suggested format for citing information found in these images, however, which is linked from that "About this collection" page. The advice and examples do not include the repository of the original documents. I believe that information should always be included in source citations if possible.

I spent a large part of the past weekend happily going through the Parish Register images available on the LDS FamilySearch pilot site. I realised when I started saving some of them, however, that none of the images or registers are sourced to the Norfolk Record Office (NRO) — or if they are, I certainly can't find the citations. There's no mention of the PD numbers that are the NRO catalogue reference.  The only information is down at the bottom of the Parish list, where it says "Collection Description: This collection is made up of parish registers of Norfolk, containing records of christening, marriage and burial entries."

While I am very grateful to the FamilySearch folks for putting the images online, I do feel it is extremely important that the images (or at least the registers) are sourced to the repository of the original documents. However, according to the advice given at familysearch.org in their Research Wiki ( https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Cite_Your_Sources_%28Source_Footnotes%29 ) we should cite the source of records found on the pilot site like this:

Record Search—Pilot Site
11. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953: Phoebe Augsfuerger" in FamilySearch Record Search—Pilot Site at http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#deathPlaceId=43;surname=augspurger;p=1;searchType=standard;deathPlace=Ohio%2C%20United%20States;givenName=phoebe (accessed 23 January 2009). Died 28 Apr 1928. Should be Augspurger.

(The link doesn't work; at least not for me. Takes me to the search page; so it's not very useful to me as a citation.)

I believe the document repository should be in the source citation. That's where the actual information is coming from. So I'm going to add that information when I cite information from any of those images on this site. As an example, to cite the 1747 marriage in Shipdham of William Jairy & Elizabeth Sherey, I could have put something like this:

Shipdham Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1558-1804. Norfolk Record Office. Image online at http://pilot.familysearch.org - England, Norfolk Parish Registers. Image 253 of 253. Accessed 25 April 2010.

But that doesn't give the NRO catalogue reference, which is necessary for correct citation of parish records held at the NRO. (See NRO Information Leaflet 4, "How to cite NRO references" PDF download.)

But how does one find the PD reference when it's not mentioned on the FamilySearch site? Well, there are a couple of ways. Sometimes the PD number is written in pencil on the first or second page of the register, so it's on the image. But even if it isn't, every image shows a tag at the bottom of the page that describes the contents of the register. You can use that, along with the "Set Searches" facility of the Norfolk Record Office online catalogue (NROCAT) to find the PD number.

The Shipdham register in the above example has a tag at the bottom of the images with this information: "SHIPDHAM bapt. and bur. 1558-1804; marr. 1558-1753." and if you look at the middle column on the Familysearch site above the image, the events are Baptisms, Marriages, Burials, and the years in the third column are 1558-1804.

If you go to the NRO site, and look in the section headed "Summaries of collections," you'll see a link to NROCAT. Click that, and on the menu across the top, select "Set searches." A dropdown menu will appear; select "Church of England Parishes." Click on the arrows to open the dropdown menu, scroll down and select Shipdham, then click Search.

Look through the Result List until you find the title and years that match up with the information on the image; in this case, it's the third one down. The title is "Baptisms and Burials, 1558-1804; Marriages, 1558-1753" and the date is 1558-1804. The CatalogueRef is PD 337/1.

With this information, I can complete my source citation. I'll use the title as given in NROCAT first, since that's the location of the actual document, then as given on the LDS site. Since for some reason the links to the images on the FamilySearch site aren't working for me, I'll give the full path to the register, rather than link directly to it, so the image can be found from the search start page:

Shipdham Parish Registers: Baptisms & Burials 1558-1804; Marriages 1558-1753. Norfolk Record Office, PD 337/1. Image online at http://pilot.familysearch.org - England, Norfolk Parish Registers, Shipdham Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1558-1804, Image 253 of 253. Accessed 25 April 2010.

(Note: Don't make my mistake and leave out the space between the PD and the 3. It's PD 337/1, not PD337/1.)

If I didn't know that the Norfolk Parish Registers were kept at the NRO, I'd be unable to cite it as the repository, of course. So, although I am thankful that the images are online and that we have this wonderful resource, I cringe to think of all the incomplete sourcing this will result in as people use the various image collections.  I hope the FamilySearch site will include the actual names of the document repositories in the future.

Back when I had an Ancestry.com subscription, I saw a few trees that listed a 1747 marriage in Shipham (sic) for William & Elizabeth. Once I found baptism records in Stiffkey starting in 1739, however, I knew it was very unlikely they were the same couple. But after I made the post about William & Elizabeth's children, Michele Ryan left a comment saying she had seen information that marriage took place in 1737. That, of course, put a different light on things.

So this morning, I started looking through the Shipdham registers to see if I could find out which year the marriage took place.

I found no marriage in 1737, but I did find the 1747 marriage. I can't get the direct link to the image to work, but on the very last image (253 of 253) in the Shipdham Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1558-1804 (NRO PD 337/1) is this record:

Marriages 1747

William Jairy of Mattishall(?) Single & Elizabeth Sherey of same by Licence 20 Sept.

So I guess we're back to square one as regards the William & Elizabeth Jary who started baptising children in Stiffkey in 1739. Sigh.

The next place to look may be Binham. That was Elizabeth Jary's home when she died, according to the Stiffkey register.

Source: Shipdham Parish Registers, Baptisms & Burials 1558-1804; Marriages 1558-1753. Norfolk Record Office, PD 337/1. Image online at http://pilot.familysearch.org - England, Norfolk Parish Registers, Shipdham Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1558-1804, Image 253 of 253. Accessed 25 April 2010.

This wonderful resource is at

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

To get to the Norfolk images, look below the search form & click on "Search or Browse our record collections," then click Europe on the map on the next page. Scroll down the list to the United Kingdom. "England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900" is (as of this writing) 2nd from the bottom of the UK list.

You'll see a list of parishes in the left-hand column. Click on the parish you want, then another column will appear with the registers; click the type of event you want, and a third column will appear with the dates available. Then click "Browse (however many) images"

And enjoy!

Please note: Your browser has to have Flash enabled to access the images. Also, I've noticed that trying to save an image while in full-screen mode results in a browser freeze - at least on my Mac.

If the "Mann" household is seperate from Wm Warnes' House hold, why is Wm Warnes shown as Head against Thomas and Elizabeth Mann?The Wm Jary here is probably the son of Jacob and Mary--Davison--Jary, b. abt 1819, and apprenticed to either Wm Warnes or Thomas Mann, but who is the Wm Jary aged 15,--- b. abt 1826?--- in the Susan Starling Household?

regards, Bob

Bob's question was in regard to this household:

27	High St	Wm Warnes	M	60	Mariner	Y	(Self)
		Rose	F	40		Y	Wm Warnes	End of family mark (/) after line
		Thomas Mann	M	37	Mariner	Y	Wm Warnes
		Elizabeth Mann	F	26		Y	Wm Warnes
		Wm Jary	M	21	Sea App	Y	Wm Warnes?	See below

Page	Name	Age	Comments
27	Wm Jary	21	(Mann household) There is an end of dwelling mark (//) on Elizabeth Mann's line, but no digit in "Inhabited" column next to Wm Jary's name to indicate a new household.

Here is an excerpt of the census page showing the entries (click the image to enlarge it):

Excerpt from 1841 Blakeney census: the Wm Warnes household

I interpreted the single mark through the first two letters of Thomas Mann's name as an "end of family" mark, whereas the double lines on the line with Elizabeth Mann's name look like an "end of household" mark to me. That makes me think that the Manns lived with Wm & Rose Warnes; two families in one household. I haven't researched this family, but I suspect that Elizabeth Mann may have been the daughter of Wm Warnes. (Or perhaps Rose Warnes's sister?)

If it is indeed an "end of household" mark at Elizabeth Mann's name, I would have expected to see a digit in the "Inhabited" column next to Wm Jary's name (similar to the one next to Wm Warnes's name) to indicate the start of a new household. But there is no mark in that column, and this is why I put a question mark in the table when I transcribed it. It's not clear to me whether Wm Jary was part of the Warnes household, or if he lived by himself.

I don't think that this William Jary was the son of Jacob & Mary Davison Jary, however. From the hand-written index of the Stiffkey Register (NRO PD492, HMN6-364: F-L): "Jarey, William son of Jacob & Mary, buried 16 Apr 1819, aged 2 weeks." So I don't know who this William Jary was. We have no other William Jarys in our file that come close to being the right age. (That's not to say we don't have the data somewhere; I just may not have put it into our iFamily file yet. That's one of the reasons we started this site, to catch things like this.)

In answer to Bob's second question, I think the Wm Jary enumerated in Susan Starling's household may have been her nephew, William Richard Shepherd Jary, born 2 October 1823, and christened 5 October 1823 in Blakeney. He was the son of Susan's brother, John Jary (b ca 1800) and his wife, Peggy Baines. (Blakeney Baptisms 1813-1840; NRO PD619; MF691/30). This William would have been about 18 years old, but remember that the 1841 enumerators' instructions were to record ages from 15 and under 20 years as 15 years. Those instructions weren't followed in many instances, but perhaps they were in this one.

A Cess-Pool eight feet deep, near five feet diameter, twenty feet from the stable-wall arched over, was made in the year 1767. The drains from the house, and the drain from the stable empty themselves into it.

When the Offices were built in September 1757. An arched-brick-drain 12 inches at the bottom and 14 inches high in the clear was made from the sink-stone runing (sic) by the north-wall of the brew-house, and receiving into it the water from the pantry, powdering-room, and larder, it goes out under the threshold of the brewhouse-door, on the outside of the threshold is a cess-pool, into which a stone hangs to hinder the return of the stink, the drain is continued through the yard to the cess-pool 20 feet from the stable-wall.

Source:

Blakeney General Register 1729-1791. NRO; PD619. MF691/27.

Daughter: Margaret Stirges NEWBEGIN
Born: 20 Feb 1811 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [11]
Baptised: 22 Feb 1811 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [11]

Daughter: Maria NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 11 Feb 1813 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [1o, 11]

Son: Thomas NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 16 Oct 1814 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [10]

Son: Francis NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 09 May 1816 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [10]

Daughter: Maria NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 09 Aug 1817 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [10]

Daughter: Hannah Matilda NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 11 Apr 1819 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [10]

Son: Horatio NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 13 Nov 1820 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [10]
Spouse: Catherine JARY Peeps (1811 - ) [12]

Son: Nevison Stirgess NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 26 Apr 1822 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [10]

Son: Zachariah NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 24 Dec 1823 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [10]
Died: aft Mar 1851 [13]
Spouse: Maryann (Unknown) (abt 1826 - ) [13]

Daughter: Roda Matilda NEWBEGIN
Baptised: 11 Oct 1825 at Cley-next-the-Sea, Norfolk, England [10]

Sources

Note: Not all of the sources below were used in this post, but I copied the list over from the census article so the numbers would match between the two. There are additional sources at the bottom of this list (numbers 11-13) that weren't used in the census article.

• [1] Stiffkey Register Index. NRO. PD492. HMN6-364: F-L
• [2] Blakeney Parish Registers Marriages 1813-1837. NRO. PD619. MF692/4
• [3] Blakeney Parish Registers Baptisms & Burials 1807 - 1812. NRO. PD619. MF691/29
• [4] Morston Parish Registers. NRO PD478. 1700-1812: Registration of Baptisms 1700-1811; Registration of Marriages 1701-1754; Burials 1700-1812. (Microfiche)
• [5] Blakeney Parish Registers: Baptisms 1813-1840 PD619 MF691/30
• [6] Marriage certificate: Thomas Dew & Jemima Jary. GRO. 1858 Mar Erpingham. Vol 4b, Page 85, Entry no. 127.
• [7] NRO. Probate 1800-1857. Archdeaconry of Norwich Court, 1813; Probate of William Cozens. Microfilm.
• [8] Norfolk Marriages. Hamlin, Philip. Norfolk Family History Society. 2002. CD-ROM.
• [9] Morston Parish Registers Baptisms 1813-1900. NRO. PD478. MF1000/11
• [10] Cley-Next-the-Sea Parish Registers: Baptisms 1813-1841. NRO. PD270 MF694/22
• [11] Cley-Next-the-Sea Parish Registers: Baptisms & Burials 1779-1814. NRO. PD270 MF694/21
• [12] Blakeney Parishes Register Marriages 1837-1900. NRO. PD619 MF692/5
• [13] 1851 England Census

1739
1 Edward Son of James & Mary Waller was bur[ie]d the 2d of April
2 Mary Daug[hte]r of Susan Bateman 5th May
3 Elizab[e]th Daug[hte]r of Peter & Alice Mallet the 6th May
4 Purland Wright the 15th May
5 James Son of Mary Taylor bur[ie]d May 20th
6 Thomas Son of Tho[mas] & Hannah Neale Aug[ust] 15th
7 Anne Mendham was bur[ie]d 3d Sep[tembe]r
8 Elizabeth the Wife of John Jary 12th Oct[obe]r
9 Mary Stirges the 14th of Oct[obe]r
10 Mary the Wife of Edmund Starling Oct[obe]r 23d
11 Thomas Son of Elizab[e]th Jary 10th Dec[embe]r
12 Thomas Masingham bur[ied] 28th Feb[rua]ry

1740
Amy Wife of John Musset bur[ie]d Jun[e] 21st
George Son of Edm[un]d & Mary Bond Jun[e] 24th
Samuel Haydon was bur[ie]d July 11th
Mary-Anne Daug[hte]r of Gamaliel & Eliza[be]th Stirges was bur[ied] August the 10th
James Son of Will[iam] & Sarah Wells was bur[ie]d Aug[ust] 16th
John Son of Robert & Lydia Musset bur[ie]d Aug[ust] 25th
Stephen Son of Step[he]n & Margaret Townsend bur[ie]d Oct[obe]r 11th
Edward Woods was bur[ie]d Oct[obe]r 22d
Anne Daug[hte]r of Frances & Martha Fernsby bur[ie]d Oct[obe]r 24th
Anne the Wife of Rich[ar]d Ayres bur[ie]d Nov[embe]r 8th
Richard Ayres was bur[ie]d Jan[uary] 2d
John Nunn was bur[ie]d Jan[uary] 29th
In all 12

1741
John Clare was Bur[ie]d Apr[il] 16th
Lee Son of Henry & Eliza[be]th Page July 30th
Elizabeth Daug[hte]r of Francis & Martha Fernsby Aug[ust] 5th
Thomas Son of W[illia]m Stirges 3'd Sep[tembe]r
Mary Stangroom Widow the 15th Sept[ember]:
Michael Son of W[illia]m & Frances Starling Sept[ember]: 16th
Francis Son of John & Esser [Ester?] Johnson the 10th Dec[embe]r
John Hipkin was Bur[ie]d 25th Dec[embe]r
Rich[ar]d Son of John & Susan Harrison Jan[uar]y 17th
James Lake Jan[uar]y 28th
Mary Daug[hte]r of Rob[er]t & Margaret Fox Feb[ruary] 2'd
Rich[ar]d Son of Tho[mas] & Mary Smith 2'd Feb[ruary]
Anthony Fox the 12th Feb[ruary]
Mary Daug[hte]r of Peter & Mary Coble 24th Feb[ruary]
John Son of James & Anne Woods 2d Mar[ch]
Elizabeth Pilch Widow the 23rd March
In all 16

1742 "NB in the y[ea]r 1742 those marked thus X died of the Small-pox"
Mary Daug[hte]r of John & Mary Matsell Apr[il] 9th
Margaret Daug[hte]r of Rob[er]t and Margaret Eldridge 11th Ap
Anthony Son of Anthony & Mary Thomis[o_]n? Apr[il] 12th
Joseph & Mary twins of Robert and Margaret Morgin were bur[ied] 13th June
Robert Rumball 19th Aug[ust]
Lucy Daug[hte]r of John & Susan Cooper 20th Aug[ust]
Anne Daug[hte]r of John & Anne Massew (Massen?) 13th Sep[tember]
Edward Son of Susan Ward was Bur[ie]d 17th Sept[embe]r
Thomas Middletons was Bur[ie]d 15th Oct[obe]r
Ester Beavis widow was Bur[ie]d 28th Oct[obe]r
William High was Bur[ie]d the 14th Nov[embe]r
X Matthew Cooper was Bur[ie]d the 14th Nov[embe]r
X Stephen Son of Edm[un]d & Catharine Barker was Bur[ie]d 8th Dec[embe]r
X Mary Jay Widow was Bur[ie]d h'e 2'd Dec[embe]r "died at Yarmouth"
William Passifield was Bur[ie]d 6th Dec[embe]r
William Son of W[illia]m & Anne Passifield was Bur[ie]d 15 Dec[embe]r
X Amy Framing ham the 28th Dec[embe]r
X Robert Bacon the 31st? Dec[embe]r
X Anne Daug[hte]r of Henry & Thomasin Pinchen Jan[uar]y 5th
John Royall was Bur[ie]d 15th Jan[uar]y
X Lucy Daug[hte]r of Francis Crofts 15th Jan[uar]y
X Mary Daug[hte]r of Henry & Thomasin Pinchen 21st Jan
Joseph Son of Nath[ani]el & Eliz[abe]th Woods Jan[uar]y 23rd
X Robert Fox was Bur[ie]d 26th Jan[uar]y
Eliza[be]th Medcalf was Bur[ie]d 5th Feb[ruary]
William Baker was Bur[ie]d 17th Feb[ruary]
X Matthew Cletherwood was Bur[ie]d 20th Feb[ruary]
X Edmund Barker was Bur[ie]d 21? Feb[ruary]
X Robert Bennet was Bur[ie]d the 18th Mar[ch]
In all 30 [12 smallpox]

1743 "In this y[ea]r those mark[e]d X died of the Small-pox"
X Susanah the Wife of Tho[mas] Imping was Bur[ie]d Mar[ch] 25th  (name spelled Impin in 1734 burial of Ann wife of Thomas Impin Oct 5th)
X Valentine Son of Christopher Lewis Mar[ch] 26th
X Mary Daug[hte]r of Christopher Lewis Mar[ch] 26th
Eleanor Parkin Bur[ie]d Apr[il] 10th
Catharine Daug[hte]r of Tho[mas] Imping Apr[il] 9th
X Robert Musset was Bur[ie]d May 9th
John Son of John & Mary Williamson Bur[ie]d May 22d
Mary Daug[hte]r of John & Susan Harrison May 24th
Thomas Son of Will[ia]m & Mary Lane May 29th
James Son of Oliver & Margaret Whiteside Jun[e] 5th
Anne the Wife of Henry Franklin Jun[e] 7th
Elizab[e]th Greeve was Bur[ie]d July 11th
Anne the Wife of Tho[mas] Howard July 30th
Elizabeth Daug[hte]r of Francis & Martha Fornsly Bur[ie]d Aug[ust] 20th
Elizabeth Daug[hte]r of Will[ia]m & Sarah Wells Bur[ie]d Sep[tembe]r 11th
Mary Daug[hte]r of Rob[er]t & Mary Thompson Nov[embe]r 16th
Sarah the Wife of Edmund Woods Bur[ie]d Jan[uar]y 5th
Rob[er]t Son of Edmund & Sarah Woods Jan[uar]y 5th
Eleanor Daug[hte]r of Sarah Box Bur[ie]d Feb[ruary] 10th
In all 19 [4 smallpox]

Source:

Cley next the Sea General Register 1686-1744. NRO. PD270. MF694/19.