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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/atom10full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0" gd:etag="W/&quot;Ck8NSXg5eSp7ImA9WhdREEg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707</id><updated>2011-07-30T11:34:58.621-07:00</updated><category term="ACFI" /><category term="Reflections" /><title>Ancient Christian Faith Initiative Blog</title><subtitle type="html" /><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>24</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/AncientChristianFaith" /><feedburner:info xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0" uri="ancientchristianfaith" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DUcMQ3c-cSp7ImA9WxFVF0Q.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-6118908726345620468</id><published>2010-06-17T10:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-17T10:51:22.959-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-06-17T10:51:22.959-07:00</app:edited><title>Previous Course Study Materials Available</title><content type="html">We are now making study materials from our previous seminar, &lt;i&gt;The Early Church at Prayer and Worship&lt;/i&gt;, available for purchase. &amp;nbsp;They can be used for individual or group study. &amp;nbsp;Please visit our &lt;a href="http://www.ancientchristianfaith.org/study-materials"&gt;study materials page&lt;/a&gt; for more information.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-6118908726345620468?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/6118908726345620468/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/06/previous-course-study-materials.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/6118908726345620468?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/6118908726345620468?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/06/previous-course-study-materials.html" title="Previous Course Study Materials Available" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkAHRHs5eSp7ImA9WxFUEkk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-7430349976613067332</id><published>2010-06-16T04:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-22T16:18:55.521-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-06-22T16:18:55.521-07:00</app:edited><title>The Spiritual Meadow</title><content type="html">&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;In the late sixth and early seventh centuries, a monk named John Moschus visited many of the monasteries and hermits in the Middle East. &amp;nbsp;He wrote&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;The Spiritual Meadow,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;a collection of stories told by the people he encountered. &amp;nbsp;It contains all sorts of accounts: conversions, visions, strange miracles, and great deeds of faith. &amp;nbsp;In the prologue, John describes the purpose of the book this way:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It is obvious to all, my beloved son, that the meadows present their most beautiful appearance in Springtime, with its pleasing variety of flowers of every sort, demanding the attention of all who gaze, impossible to ignore, beneficial in all sorts of ways, for they delight the eyes and give pleasure to the sense of smell...Think of this present work like this, Sophronius, my holy and most faithful son, since you will find in it the virtues of the holy men who have enlightened our time "planted by the running waters", as the Psalmist says (Psalms 1.3). And though all of them are acceptable to God and of great grace, yet each one of them is distinguished by some particular grace more than the others, so that out of this great variety of virtues arises a charming picture of pleasing beauty...It is not only right belief and meditation on divine truth which lead to a life and morals of integrity, but also the examples of other people, and written accounts of their virtuous lives.&lt;/blockquote&gt;In reading this work, I have found that it functions as John intended. &amp;nbsp;While sometimes the practices and experiences of these Christians seem quite foreign to us, they served God with an intensity rarely seen today. &amp;nbsp;The work is a beautiful testament to the power of Jesus Christ to transform lives. &amp;nbsp;Here is just one of the stories he recounts:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In this same monastery of Turrius there was an old man who was a great lover of almsgiving, even to the extent of holy nakedness. For one day a beggar came to his cell seeking alms. The old man had nothing to give him but one loaf which he offered to the beggar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"It's not bread I want but clothing," said the beggar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The old man wanted to help him so he took him by the hand and led him inside his cell. The beggar could not see anything inside but what the old man stood up in, but driven by his virtuous nature the old man opened the only moneybag he had by taking off everything he wore, saying: "Take these, good sir, and I will seek elsewhere for what I need."&lt;/blockquote&gt;The&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.monachos.net/content/patristics/patristictexts/173-moschus-meadow"&gt;entire work&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;is available online.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Update:&lt;/b&gt; The link above only has the first 85 chapters, out of 214. &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.vitae-patrum.org.uk/page141.html"&gt;Here is the full work on another site&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;(The whole book is spread over a number of pages; click "Next" at the bottom to go to the next page.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-7430349976613067332?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/7430349976613067332/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/06/spiritual-meadow.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7430349976613067332?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7430349976613067332?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/06/spiritual-meadow.html" title="The Spiritual Meadow" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DU4AR3g6fSp7ImA9WxFVEEQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-4442600234288883067</id><published>2010-06-09T08:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-09T08:39:06.615-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-06-09T08:39:06.615-07:00</app:edited><title>Fall Seminar on Scripture</title><content type="html">Registration is now open for our &lt;a href="http://www.ancientchristianfaith.org/seminars"&gt;Fall Seminar&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;i&gt;Early Church in Devotion to Scripture&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;This one will be held at &lt;a href="http://www.pghupperroom.com/main/"&gt;The Upper Room&lt;/a&gt; church in the Squirrel Hill neighborhood of Pittsburgh, PA. &amp;nbsp;It will also be available online.&lt;br /&gt;
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I encourage you to consider taking this seminar. &amp;nbsp;We will be reading some of the greatest Scripture teachers in Christian history.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-4442600234288883067?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/4442600234288883067/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/06/fall-seminar-on-scripture.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/4442600234288883067?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/4442600234288883067?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/06/fall-seminar-on-scripture.html" title="Fall Seminar on Scripture" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUMHRnY6fip7ImA9WxFWEEo.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-2113285704760865234</id><published>2010-05-28T12:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T12:03:57.816-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-05-28T12:03:57.816-07:00</app:edited><title>House of St. Michael the Archangel Blog</title><content type="html">The House of St. Michel the Archangel is Tim and Matt's vision for a community immersed in the Scriptures and the Fathers. They seek to "operate a house with a life of worship, prayer, and reflection on the Scriptures and the historic Christian Faith, for a total Christian perspective on existence." &amp;nbsp;Read more about their vision &lt;a href="http://houseofstmichaelthearchangel.org/about-2/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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They have launched &lt;a href="http://houseofstmichaelthearchangel.org/"&gt;a new blog&lt;/a&gt;, which will feature regular reflections on ancient Christian writings. &amp;nbsp;I invite you to check it out. &amp;nbsp;Two reflections are already posted, and each is very challenging and thought-provoking.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-2113285704760865234?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/2113285704760865234/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/05/house-of-st-michael-archangel-blog.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/2113285704760865234?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/2113285704760865234?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/05/house-of-st-michael-archangel-blog.html" title="House of St. Michael the Archangel Blog" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A04FSX89fSp7ImA9WxFREEk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-8104516252951299298</id><published>2010-04-23T12:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T12:11:58.165-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T12:11:58.165-07:00</app:edited><title>Seminar Response</title><content type="html">Among the participants in our recently-completed seminar on &lt;a href="http://www.ancientchristianfaith.org/seminars/past-seminars"&gt;Prayer and Worship&lt;/a&gt; was a group of elders from &lt;a href="http://www.firstchurchtulsa.org/index.htm"&gt;First Presbyterian Church of Tulsa&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Tim and Matt had the opportunity to fly there twice to interact with them in person. &amp;nbsp;Here is what their senior pastor, Dr. Jim Miller, had to say about the experience:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;The Ancient Christian Faith Initiative invites Christians to take the blessings of our heritage seriously. &amp;nbsp;Reading, pondering, and praying over the writings of early Church leaders is a powerful antidote to the shallow spiritualities of our own day. &amp;nbsp;Timothy Becker and Matthew Bell, both Ph.D. candidates in Patristics, have the rare gift of leading twenty-first century disciples of Jesus into the writings and lessons of ancient Christian faith.&lt;br /&gt;
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As part of our new elder development ministry, First Presbyterian Church, Tulsa, invited Tim and Matt to lead us on an eight-week series, diving deep into the pool of ancient Christian witness. &amp;nbsp;This was completely new terrain for most of these First Church leaders. &amp;nbsp;But the experience was rich and fruitful at so many different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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With enthusiasm and confidence I am happy to recommend the Ancient Christian Faith Initiative to local congregations.&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-8104516252951299298?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/8104516252951299298/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/04/seminar-response.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/8104516252951299298?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/8104516252951299298?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/04/seminar-response.html" title="Seminar Response" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEQCRHYycSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-5130071398622166376</id><published>2010-03-24T12:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:26:05.899-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:26:05.899-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>Reading Revelation</title><content type="html">In the last week of our seminar on prayer and worship, we read the Book of Revelation.  This was the most familiar of our readings, since it is part of Scripture.   It does not seem nearly as strange to us as ancient writers like &lt;a href="http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeII/CelestialHierarchy.html"&gt;Pseudo-Dionysius&lt;/a&gt;.  And yet, it was really the strangest thing we read by far.   Imagine reading Revelation without having been previously exposed to it: most of us would tear our hair out trying to figure out what is going on. And yet: do we really know what it means, or have we merely gotten comfortable with the language of Scripture's stranger sections, without truly grasping it?&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Despite having a seminary degree, I have never seriously studied Revelation (and certain other books), and reading Revelation anew challenged me that I need to do so.  God has given me the &lt;div&gt;great privilege of His truth revealed in Scripture, and I have simply not been interested enough to receive all of it. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
One of the striking insights of Revelation is how connected worship is to everything that happens in the world. Repeatedly in the book, worship accompanies the defeat of evil.  One could push&lt;br /&gt;
that further and say that worship IS the defeat of evil--since evil consists of the failure to acknowledge and worship God.  A theologian named John Webster said it this way: "Praise is the great act of rebellion against sin." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The question, then, is: is this how we view our worship?  Do we think that we are participating in God's victory over evil when we gather on Sunday?  Do we realize that we are taking part in a world-transforming act?  More often, I think we see ourselves as retreating from the world, taking a brief rest in God's presence, before we have to go out there and get to work again.&lt;br /&gt;
When we think about this, it is unsurprising that many Christians have trouble connecting worship to service.  In fact, the two have become antithetical: some Christians worship, while others go out and help the poor.  Some are accused of "being too heavenly-minded to do any earthly good."  Such a statement has no place in Revelation, though: the "heavenly-minded" are the ones who see and take part in God's mighty acts in the world.  If being "heavenly-minded" leads us to disengage from the world, than what we have in our minds is not heaven at all, but an idolatrous illusion. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
How can we worship in a way that reflects the divine reality? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;How can we worship conscious that we are participants in the heavenly worship and in God's victory over sin and evil in the world? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;How can worship be more connected to the battles in our own lives?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;These are the questions with which Revelation has left me. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-5130071398622166376?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/5130071398622166376/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/03/reading-revelation.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/5130071398622166376?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/5130071398622166376?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/03/reading-revelation.html" title="Reading Revelation" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEEEQHs_eyp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-6056135794901440168</id><published>2010-02-03T07:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:30:01.543-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:30:01.543-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>Ancient Wisdom and Modern Science</title><content type="html">I commend to you Rev. Chris Brown's blog post, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://christopherbrown.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/renewing-the-mind-porn-neurology-and-monkish-wisdom/" target="_blank"&gt;Renewing the Mind: Porn, Neurology, and Monkish Wisdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.  Chris connects what science teaches about addiction to the spiritual practices of ancient Christian ascetics.  He draws on the Philokalia, one of the texts for our current seminar.  &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The reason we encourage the study of these ancient teachers is because we believe they are far more than historical curiosities; they offer us great spiritual wisdom that can help us grow in our faith today.  Thanks, Chris, for providing an excellent illustration of that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-6056135794901440168?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/6056135794901440168/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/02/ancient-wisdom-and-modern-science.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/6056135794901440168?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/6056135794901440168?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/02/ancient-wisdom-and-modern-science.html" title="Ancient Wisdom and Modern Science" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEEGQns6cSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-2266366863092551880</id><published>2010-01-30T17:26:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:30:23.519-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:30:23.519-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Testimonial</title><content type="html">&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Here's what BJ Woodworth, lead pastor of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pghopendoor.org/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;The Open Door&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;, has to say about ACFI:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;As I have begun to read the early church fathers through The Ancient Christian Faith Initiative I have discovered a deep well of inspiring theological discourse that has opened my eyes and my heart to the majesty and mystery of God.  In reading and discussing these saints of the faith with others I have found myself driven to my knees in prayer and worship.  I have found myself deeply aware of my humanity in the shadow of an unfathomable yet immanent God.  I have seen my heart set aflame for the love of God for me and the world and most of all I have had my mind blown with the humble brilliance of these ancient but completely relevant writers of our faith.  ACFI has equipped me in ministry to plumb the depths of God with great humility and awe and to lead the church out of a deep place of prayer and worship.  In an age of searching mystical spirituality I encourage everyone to read these ancient yet surprisingly relevant sages of our Christian faith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-2266366863092551880?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/2266366863092551880/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/01/testimonial.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/2266366863092551880?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/2266366863092551880?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/01/testimonial.html" title="Testimonial" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEEHQ3k9eCp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-5287350647041521829</id><published>2010-01-16T06:42:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:30:32.760-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:30:32.760-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>Augustine on Jesus' Miracles and the Miracle of Creation</title><content type="html">&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;As I was preparing a sermon on Jesus' turning water into wine, I came across this &lt;a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf107.iii.ix.html"&gt;great reflection on miracles&lt;/a&gt; by Augustine:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The miracle indeed of our Lord Jesus Christ, whereby He made the water into wine, is not marvellous to those who know that it was God’s doing. For He who made wine on that day at the marriage feast, in those six water-pots, which He commanded to be filled with water, the self-same does this every year in vines. For even as that which the servants put into the water-pots was turned into wine by the doing of the Lord, so in like manner also is what the clouds pour forth changed into wine by the doing of the same Lord. But we do not wonder at the latter, because it happens every year: it has lost its marvellousness by its constant recurrence. And yet it suggests a greater consideration than that which was done in the water-pots. For who is there that considers the works of God, whereby this whole world is governed and regulated, who is not amazed and overwhelmed with miracles? &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If he considers the vigorous power of a single grain of any seed whatever, it is a mighty thing, it inspires him with awe. But since men, intent on a different matter, have lost the consideration of the works of God, by which they should daily praise Him as the Creator, God has, as it were, reserved to Himself the doing of certain extraordinary actions, that, by striking them with wonder, He might rouse men as from sleep to worship Him. A dead man has risen again; men marvel: so many are born daily, and none marvels. If we reflect more considerately, it is a matter of greater wonder for one to be who was not before, than for one who was to come to life again. Yet the same God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, doeth by His word all these things; and it is He who created that governs also. The former miracles He did by His Word, God with Himself; the latter miracles He did by the same Word incarnate, and for us made man. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As we wonder at the things which were done by the man Jesus, so let us wonder at the things which where done by Jesus God. By Jesus God were made heaven, and earth, and the sea, all the garniture of heaven, the abounding riches of the earth, and the fruitfulness of the sea;—all these things which lie within the reach of our eyes were made by Jesus God. And we look at these things, and if His own spirit is in us they in such manner please us, that we praise Him that contrived them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Indeed.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-5287350647041521829?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/5287350647041521829/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/01/augustine-on-jesus-miracles-and-miracle.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/5287350647041521829?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/5287350647041521829?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2010/01/augustine-on-jesus-miracles-and-miracle.html" title="Augustine on Jesus' Miracles and the Miracle of Creation" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEEARHgyfSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-7277422792424492787</id><published>2009-12-10T11:29:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:30:45.695-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:30:45.695-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Study Materials available from Pillars Course</title><content type="html">Our latest course was &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pillars of the Church: Augustine, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Ephrem the Syrian.&lt;/span&gt;  This was a study of the most important figures in the Latin and Syriac traditions, as well as one of the most prominent from the Greek tradition.  &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If this topic interests you, we are making the course materials available online for independent study.  The materials include a schedule of readings, eight video lectures on the reading, and eight written reflections.  We are charging $20 for an individual and $100 for a group of up to 20 people.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;For more information, visit our &lt;a href="http://www.ancientchristianfaith.org/study-materials" target="_blank"&gt;Study Materials&lt;/a&gt; page.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-7277422792424492787?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/7277422792424492787/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/12/study-materials-available-from-pillars.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7277422792424492787?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7277422792424492787?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/12/study-materials-available-from-pillars.html" title="Study Materials available from Pillars Course" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEEBQn04cSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-7939684471123526771</id><published>2009-12-04T11:21:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:30:53.339-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:30:53.339-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Early Church at Prayer and Worship - Registration Open</title><content type="html">We are now accepting registrants for our spring seminar: &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://sites.google.com/a/ancientchristianfaith.org/ancient-christian-faith/seminars" target="_blank"&gt;The Early Church at Prayer and Worship&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.  In this seminar, as you would expect, we will examine the early church's prayer and worship.  We will examine a variety of sources from roughly the first five hundred years of the church, including Eastern monks, a Western bishop, an early liturgy, and the New Testament.  Out of all of the seminars so far, this is the one I am most excited about.  I am looking forward to how it will transform my own prayer and worship, especially as we begin the season of Lent during the course.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The seminar will run from February 1st through March 22nd, 2010.  It will be hosted at &lt;a href="http://www.hamptonpresbyterian.org/welcome.html" target="_blank"&gt;Hampton Presbyterian Church&lt;/a&gt; in Gibsonia, Pennsylvania (north of Pittsburgh) and offered online.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Check out the &lt;a href="http://sites.google.com/a/ancientchristianfaith.org/ancient-christian-faith/seminars" target="_blank"&gt;Seminars page on our website&lt;/a&gt; for more information.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-7939684471123526771?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/7939684471123526771/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/12/early-church-at-prayer-and-worship.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7939684471123526771?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7939684471123526771?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/12/early-church-at-prayer-and-worship.html" title="Early Church at Prayer and Worship - Registration Open" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEECQXc8cSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-29644785651842125</id><published>2009-08-20T08:32:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:31:00.979-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:31:00.979-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Arts Group</title><content type="html">&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;On October 17th, ACFI will be offering a discussion group for artists in the Pittsburgh area (location TBA).  Tim Becker offers the following description:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;For serious Christian artists.  painters, photographers, musicians, writers, actors, +.  To collaborate on an outrageous vision of everything.  To send art to the frontier of existence - taking captive every thought, note, angle, color.&lt;br /&gt;
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"pseudo-dionysius will blow your mind.  that's a fact." -pseudo-dionysius*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Check it out, sign up, and more** at the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ancientchristianfaith.org/arts-group"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Arts Group Page&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;*Editor's Note: I think Tim means Pseudo-Pseudo-Dionysius&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;**Actually, not more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Update: the cost of this group has been lowered to $15.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-29644785651842125?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/29644785651842125/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/08/arts-group.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/29644785651842125?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/29644785651842125?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/08/arts-group.html" title="Arts Group" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEENQXwyfCp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-8106544039935639130</id><published>2009-08-20T08:10:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:31:30.294-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:31:30.294-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Eastern Christianity Study Course Available</title><content type="html">We are happy to announce that our seminar on Eastern Christianity is now available as a course for individual or group use.  It includes a suggested schedule of readings, audio lectures, and written reflections on the readings.&lt;br /&gt;
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The course could be used to study independently at your own pace, or as the curriculum for a small group or Sunday school class.  The cost is $15 for an individual or $75 for a group of up to 20 people.&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information, please visit the &lt;a href="http://www.ancientchristianfaith.org/study-materials"&gt;Study Materials&lt;/a&gt; page on our website.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-8106544039935639130?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/8106544039935639130/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/08/eastern-christianity-study-course.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/8106544039935639130?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/8106544039935639130?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/08/eastern-christianity-study-course.html" title="Eastern Christianity Study Course Available" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEENSHkyfSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-1511523039486404973</id><published>2009-07-16T12:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:31:39.795-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:31:39.795-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Registration Open for Fall 2009</title><content type="html">We are now registering participants for our Fall 2009 seminars:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Pillars of the Church: Augustine, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Ephrem the Syrian&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(In person and online)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;How to Read the Bible according to the Early Church&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(In person only)&lt;br /&gt;
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Visit the &lt;a href="http://www.ancientchristianfaith.org/seminars" target="_blank"&gt;seminars&lt;/a&gt; page to sign up.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-1511523039486404973?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/1511523039486404973/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/07/registration-open-for-fall-2009.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/1511523039486404973?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/1511523039486404973?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/07/registration-open-for-fall-2009.html" title="Registration Open for Fall 2009" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEAESXs9eSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-3864569243718324708</id><published>2009-07-06T20:14:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:31:48.561-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:31:48.561-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Coming Soon</title><content type="html">&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #260a00; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #260a00; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;The following seminars are planned for this fall:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Pillars of the Church: Ephrem the Syrian, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Augustine&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #260a00; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"&gt;Instructors: Tim Becker and Matt Bell&lt;br /&gt;
This course will also be offered online.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;How to Read the Bible According to the Early Church&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Instructor: Matt Bell&lt;br /&gt;
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We are also exploring ways to distribute the materials from the Eastern Christianity seminar for independent study.&lt;br /&gt;
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More information will be forthcoming soon.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-3864569243718324708?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/3864569243718324708/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/07/coming-soon.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/3864569243718324708?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/3864569243718324708?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/07/coming-soon.html" title="Coming Soon" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEAFRno8fCp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-8510546967588902179</id><published>2009-06-23T06:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:31:57.474-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:31:57.474-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Some News</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Way of the Fathers&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2009/06/10/taking-ancient-initiative/" target="_blank"&gt;has some nice things to say&lt;/a&gt; about ACFI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, check out Tim's new audio introduction on &lt;a href="http://www.ancientchristianfaith.org/" target="_blank"&gt;our website&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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UPDATE: This is somewhat old news, but Pittsburgh Theological Seminary has a nice article about ACFI, both in the Panorama publication and &lt;a href="http://www.pts.edu/Learning_the_Word"&gt;online&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-8510546967588902179?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/8510546967588902179/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/06/some-news.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/8510546967588902179?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/8510546967588902179?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/06/some-news.html" title="Some News" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEAGRXczfSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-7710314131782581536</id><published>2009-06-02T11:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:32:04.985-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:32:04.985-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Summer Seminar Starts Next Week</title><content type="html">There's still time to sign up for ACFI's Summer Seminar, &lt;a href="http://sites.google.com/a/ancientchristianfaith.org/ancient-christian-faith/seminars"&gt;The Gospel after the Early Church: Eastern Christianity&lt;/a&gt;.  It starts next Monday evening for the on-site seminar in Pittsburgh and Tuesday for the online seminar.  We will be reading mostly &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Damascus"&gt;John of Damascus&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symeon_the_New_Theologian"&gt;Symeon the New Theologian&lt;/a&gt;, covering all sorts of topics. I expect it to be fascinating, challenging, and refreshing.  When I read teachers like these, I realize how much I have to learn about being a Christian.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-7710314131782581536?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/7710314131782581536/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/06/summer-seminar-starts-next-week.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7710314131782581536?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7710314131782581536?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/06/summer-seminar-starts-next-week.html" title="Summer Seminar Starts Next Week" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEACRHg6eCp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-7280199228418135296</id><published>2009-04-28T07:56:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:32:45.610-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:32:45.610-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>Thoughts on Jacob of Serug</title><content type="html">This week (well, actually last week; I'm running behind) we read several of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_of_Serugh"&gt;Jacob of Serug&lt;/a&gt;'s homilies on the Mother of God.  This is a challenging subject for Protestants like me, but it was quite fruitful.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jacob's style is totally different from everything else we have read.  He writes in poetic form.  This took a little getting used to, but I found it wonderful and refreshing.  Theology is supposed to lead us to worship.  Jacob's theology in its entirety is a hymn of praise to God.&lt;br /&gt;
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The basic problem I have with adoration and veneration of Mary is that it seems to compromise the exclusive claim of Christ.  If Mary was without sin, doesn't that mean she didn't need the cross?  If the role of Mary in salvation is emphasized, doesn't that take away from what Christ accomplished?  If Mary is honored, doesn't that take away from the honor given to Christ?  If we pray to Mary, doesn't that diminish Christ's role as the only intermediary?  This is the mindset I had when I began reading Jacob.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not comfortable with everything Jacob says about Mary, but I was able to appreciate much more of what he said than I was expecting.  When he ponders Mary, it leads him to honor and glorify Jesus.  For him, the virgin birth is a subset of the mystery of the incarnation: the one who cannot be contained by the heavens chose to be born in a womb as a baby.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jacob develops the theme of Mary as the "Second Eve who generated Life among mortals, and paid and rent asunder that bill of Eve her mother." Eve listened to the serpent and so brought the curse on the world; Mary listened to Gabriel and so allowed the curse to be overturned.  Eve didn't question what the serpent said; Mary questioned what Gabriel said and only accepted it when she understood.  Eve had caused enmity between heaven and earth; through Mary this enmity was ended.  However, it was not simply Mary herself but what Christ accomplished through her:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The wall of iniquity which the serpent had built then,&lt;br /&gt;
by his descent the Son of God broke it down that it might&lt;br /&gt;
never again be restored.&lt;br /&gt;
When He descended He broke down the hedge which was&lt;br /&gt;
placed between the sides,&lt;br /&gt;
that there might be peace between dwellers on earth and in&lt;br /&gt;
heaven.&lt;/blockquote&gt;What I find most fascinating is how Jacob interprets Mary's visit to Elizabeth (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%201:39-56;&amp;amp;version=47;"&gt;Luke 1:39-56&lt;/a&gt;).  John the Baptist leaps in the womb when Elizabeth and Mary meet.  Jacob compares this to David dancing before the Ark of the covenant.  This is strange, yet compelling.    Not only that, but through Mary's voice Jesus breathed the Holy Spirit on John for prophecy.  This is crazy stuff!  I like it, but I don't know what to do with it.  It is totally foreign to the way I think about everything.  It led me to worship, though.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-7280199228418135296?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/7280199228418135296/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/04/thoughts-on-jacob-of-serug.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7280199228418135296?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/7280199228418135296?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/04/thoughts-on-jacob-of-serug.html" title="Thoughts on Jacob of Serug" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEADR386eyp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-8097329970029364460</id><published>2009-04-20T12:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:32:56.113-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:32:56.113-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>Hilary of Poitiers - On The Trinity</title><content type="html">Hilary begins his work &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;On The Trinity&lt;/span&gt; in an unexpected way: by recounting his search to find the meaning of life.  He started off by realizing that there must be more to life than the possession of leisure and riches.  That thought began him on a lengthy philosophical and theological journey.  Eventually he gets to the Trinity, but it takes quite a long time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Interesting: for Hilary, the answer to "What is the meaning of life?" is found in the Trinity.  Few modern Western Christians would answer in this way.  It seems to me that we don't know what to do with the Trinity.  Most Christians know they are supposed to believe in it, but aren't sure why it matters.  Yes, it matters that Jesus is God, but much more central to salvation are what Jesus &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;did&lt;/span&gt; on the cross and his invitation to have a personal relationship with Him.  The doctrine of the Trinity is more of an academic construct that systematizes our theology, tying up some loose ends.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, it appears to me that for Hilary (and Cyril and Irenaeus), the being of Christ was just as important for salvation as His actions.  It is not only that the Son of God died and rose again; it is also that the Son of God united humanity and divinity in His person.  The relationship of the believer with God is defined in Trinitarian terms as well.  We share in the divine Father-Son relationship through our union with Christ.  This union is made possible by the Son of God's becoming flesh.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hilary brings in the Eucharist at this point:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If the Word has indeed become flesh, and we indeed receive the Word as flesh in the Lord's food, how are we not to believe that He dwells in us by His nature, He who, when He was born as man, has assumed the nature of our flesh that is bound inseparably with Himself, and has mingled the nature of His flesh to His eternal nature in the mystery of the flesh that was to be communicated to us? (285)&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is quite a sentence, and I'm not sure I understand all of it.  But I gather that we share in Christ's nature through partaking of His body and blood.  Thereby we enter into the very life of God, participating in the divine Father-Son relationship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another thing I like about Hilary is that he thought a lot about the task of theology and approached it humbly.  For example:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;A firm faith rejects the captious and useless questions of philosophy, nor does truth become the victim of falsehood by yielding to the fallacies of human absurdities.  It does not confine God within the terms of ordinary understanding...the power of eternal infinity surpasses the comprehension of the earthly mind. (14)&lt;br /&gt;
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The best reader is he who looks for the meaning of the words in the words themselves rather than reads his meaning into them, who carries away more than he brought, and who does not insist that the words signify what he presupposed before reading them...let us concede to God the knowledge about Himself, and let us humbly submit to His words with reverent awe.  For He is a competent witness for Himself who is not known except by Himself. (18)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-8097329970029364460?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/8097329970029364460/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/04/hilary-of-poitiers-on-trinity.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/8097329970029364460?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/8097329970029364460?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/04/hilary-of-poitiers-on-trinity.html" title="Hilary of Poitiers - On The Trinity" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEAMR3w6eip7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-5929228749360397170</id><published>2009-04-13T05:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:33:06.212-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:33:06.212-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>Quick Thoughts on Scholia on the Incarnation</title><content type="html">I wish I had time to get into this text more, because it has been my favorite so far.  But my Holy Week activities have prevented me from really digesting it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing I find most striking about Cyril's &lt;i&gt;Scholia on the Incarnation&lt;/i&gt; is the tension he is able to hold in the Incarnation.  He states that God and man were united into one Christ in the Incarnation, but still holds that suffering, death, etc. are properly said to have taken place in Christ's flesh.  It is his ability to hold this tension that seems to separate him from his opponents.  He can say that Christ suffered in the flesh, while remaining impassible in his diety.  He can also say that the whole person of Christ suffered, by virtue of his being united as one person.&lt;br /&gt;
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I find this quite helpful.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cyril's Old Testament exegesis is also strange and  fascinating.  I wish I had time to reflect on that more.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-5929228749360397170?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/5929228749360397170/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/04/quick-thoughts-on-scholia-on.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/5929228749360397170?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/5929228749360397170?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/04/quick-thoughts-on-scholia-on.html" title="Quick Thoughts on Scholia on the Incarnation" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEANRHo7fSp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-1939707619994946122</id><published>2009-04-02T09:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:33:15.405-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:33:15.405-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>Thoughts on Cyril and Nestorius</title><content type="html">This week, we read Cyril of Alexandria's 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; letter to Nestorius, Nestorius’s Reply, Cyril’s 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; letter to Nestorius, and The Explanation of the Twelve Chapters (a further elaboration of Cyril's 3rd letter).  These documents are part of a debate concerning the relationship between the humanity and divinity of Christ and whether Mary should be called "Mother of God" (theotokos).&lt;br /&gt;
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In my opinion, this correspondence contains two subjects of interest.  The obvious topic is the Christological controversy.  But I think the debate itself is interesting, as well.  Here we get to see how a major disagreement was handled in the fifth-century church.  That's what I want to consider first.&lt;br /&gt;
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The most noticeable feature of this argument is that Cyril and Nestorius don't mince words.  For example, Cyril says things like "certain people have scorned the teachings of the truth and filling their own minds with demonic crookedness they strive to debase the mystery of truth" and "Nestorius introduced a host of strange and profane blasphemies."  And Cyril is the nicer of the two!  All of this sounds very jarring to us.  We more often avoid conflict and try to see how we can get along with those with whom we disagree.  Accusing someone of being filled with "demonic crookedness" or of leading others astray would be seen as arrogant in the extreme and not at all "pastoral".&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the fact that both Cyril and Nestorius use strong language, there is a world of difference between the two.  Cyril is, in fact, pastoral in the true sense of the word: he is concerned above all with building up the church.  Nestorius, on the other hand, seems motivated by a personal power struggle.  He sarcastically mocks Cyril's style and questions his intelligence. Nestorius also boasts of the success of his own flock and threatens to use his position of power in Constantinople against Cyril.  You can practically tell who is on the right side of this debate without even considering the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's easy for our reaction to be, "what's the big deal?"  That was my reaction when I first read these letters in seminary.  The differences between Cyril and Nestorius seem subtle and of little consequence.  We think, "I'm sure glad we don't fight over &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; any more" and feel that we are enlightened compared to those ancients.  However, over time I have concluded that this is a pretty lame opinion to have.  Here is the first reaction I wish I had: "Hey, at least these people cared about the identity of Jesus!"  I happen to be part of the PC(USA), a denomination with much more divergent views about Jesus than Cyril and Nestorius, yet we are not even having a debate about Christology.  Instead we are fighting about things like ordination standards (which I do think is an important issue) and control of church property (which is disgraceful).&lt;br /&gt;
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After that artificial first reaction, here is the second reaction that I propose: "Let's try to figure out why this particular point was so important to these people."  The only real opinion I had in the past was that I didn't want to call Mary "Mother of God."  But I didn't get the Christological distinction.  I'll try to do better now.  Here are the two positions as I understand them: Nestorius claimed that the human things that Jesus did only happened in his humanity.  Only the humanity of Jesus was born.  Only the humanity of Jesus suffered and died, etc.  Therefore, Mary could be called the Mother of Christ, but not of God.  Cyril, on the other hand, said that, because the Word of God and man were united in Christ, all of Christ participated in everything that he did.  Even though it makes no sense for God to suffer, somehow through the humanity of Christ, God suffered.  And even though it makes no sense for God to be born, somehow through the human birth of Christ, God was born.  Therefore Mary can be called the Mother of God.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that for Cyril, all of the work of Christ would turn on this point.  If the Word of God didn't truly participate in Christ's passion, then salvation was not accomplished.  If the divinity of Christ is not communicated to the humanity, then neither is humanity glorified through Christ.  This is pretty important, after all.&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not yet understand the emphasis on Mary, though.  I see why Cyril could say that Mary was Mother of God, but why was it important to do so?  And what implications does this have for Mary?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-1939707619994946122?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/1939707619994946122/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/04/thoughts-on-cyril-and-nestorius.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/1939707619994946122?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/1939707619994946122?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/04/thoughts-on-cyril-and-nestorius.html" title="Thoughts on Cyril and Nestorius" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DE8ER3s-cCp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-550290003682274004</id><published>2009-03-25T09:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:33:26.558-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:33:26.558-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>Irenaeus and the Starting Point of Theology</title><content type="html">In &lt;a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/irenaeus/demonstr.preaching_the_demonstration_of_the_apostolic_preaching.html"&gt;The Demonstration of the Apostolic Preaching&lt;/a&gt;, Irenaeus presents "a manual of essentials" of the faith.  In modern terms, this document might be called a systematic theology.  One of the things I find fascinating about this is the way Irenaeus begins.  Every theology has to have a starting point: a central fact from which the rest flows.  This could be a philosophical argument for the existence of God, the inspiration of the Bible, God's self-revelation in nature or creation, the event of the Incarnation, the cross, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Irenaeus, however, doesn't start with any of these.  He begins with baptism:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;First of all it bids us bear in mind that we  have received baptism for the remission of sins, in the name of God the Father,  and in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was incarnate and died and  rose again, and in the Holy Spirit of God. And that this baptism is the seal of  eternal life, and is the new birth unto God, that we should no longer be the sons  of mortal men, but of the eternal and perpetual God (3).&lt;/blockquote&gt;Thus, theology doesn't begin with a proposition, a statement, or a thought; not even a statement about Christ or the cross.  Rather, theology begins with an event: God's regeneration of us through the Holy Spirit, uniting us with the crucified Christ and His body, the church.  I hope I am not wrong about this, but it seems like a big deal.  It seems to be quite radical.  Some implications I see:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Theology is not about us understanding God but about God revealing Himself to us; not just in a general sense (Jesus reveals the Father to the world) but in a personal sense (God reveals Himself to &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt; through the Holy Spirit).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Belief can't be separated from action (as Irenaeus makes clear from the outset).  Theology and practice are interdependent.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Theology is a task of the church.  It absolutely cannot be done elsewhere.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Having begun with baptism, Irenaeus uses the baptismal formula as the framework for what will follow.  Being baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is more than just an affirmation of a prior belief in the Trinity.  It is what we are baptized &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;into&lt;/span&gt; and thus gives shape to everything we believe.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-550290003682274004?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/550290003682274004/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/03/irenaeus-and-starting-point-of-theology.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/550290003682274004?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/550290003682274004?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/03/irenaeus-and-starting-point-of-theology.html" title="Irenaeus and the Starting Point of Theology" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DE8GRX85eip7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-5467717935454517651</id><published>2009-03-13T06:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:33:44.122-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:33:44.122-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reflections" /><title>The Mystery of Christ Thoughts on Ch. 1</title><content type="html">John Behr's premise is compelling: our starting point for theology should be an examination of how the earliest Christians came to believe what they did.  Our tendency is to start with statements such as the Nicene Creed, but the creeds cannot be properly understood apart from the process that led to their creation.  Upon this premise Behr writes &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Mystery of Christ&lt;/span&gt;, a brief systematic theology.&lt;br /&gt;
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For Behr, then, theology starts at the cross viewed in light of the resurrection.  This was the event in which Jesus was revealed as God.  But even this could not be understood without Jesus revealing it to his followers, through the breaking of bread and opening of the scriptures.  Already at this point I was sold on Behr's project.  Here is a theology that flows directly from the Gospel accounts of Jesus, is immediately concerned with the transformation of the believer, and provides a justification for the worship of the church from the very beginning.&lt;br /&gt;
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This theological method has some interesting consequences.  Most prominently, Behr suggests that we need to "take seriously the exegetical practices of the apostles and the early Christians."  This is rather challenging, because in modern eyes early exegesis often looks either esoteric or naive.  I have long believed (in theory) that we should be reading the Church Fathers.  But whenever I have actually done so, the things they say about scripture have often been too weird to be of any use.  After reading Behr, though, I think that the problem is we assume they were reading scripture the same way we are, but coming to strange conclusions.  In fact though, the ancient Christians had a whole different way of using scripture.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is the most distance between us and them when we read the Old Testament.  For the earliest Christians, the Old Testament spoke directly about Christ, and it was the only scripture they had.  We don't view the OT in this way, though.  Scholarship tends to view it as a Jewish story that Christians have latched on to.  Evangelicals read it as the OT as the story leading up to Christ, with a few prophecies about him thrown in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Behr describes a radically different way of doing theology.  I like it very much on a theoretical level.  I have not yet figured out how it will affect my faith on a more practical level, but I think it will.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-5467717935454517651?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/5467717935454517651/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/03/mystery-of-christ-thoughts-on-ch-1.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/5467717935454517651?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/5467717935454517651?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/03/mystery-of-christ-thoughts-on-ch-1.html" title="&lt;i&gt;The Mystery of Christ&lt;/i&gt; Thoughts on Ch. 1" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DE8AQXw6fyp7ImA9WxFREE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2764714880668557707.post-4535657533869785321</id><published>2009-03-02T16:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T08:34:00.217-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-23T08:34:00.217-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ACFI" /><title>Welcome</title><content type="html">Welcome to the Ancient Christian Faith Blog.  This blog will be hosting discussions for the first &lt;a href="http://ancientchristianfaithinitiative.blogspot.com/2009/01/ancient-christian-faith-initiative-in.html"&gt;Ancient Christian Faith Initiative Seminar&lt;/a&gt;.  Check back regularly for updates.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2764714880668557707-4535657533869785321?l=ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/feeds/4535657533869785321/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/4535657533869785321?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2764714880668557707/posts/default/4535657533869785321?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://ancientchristianfaith.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome.html" title="Welcome" /><author><name>Dan Thayer</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06156315750973455321</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AghLH68gqqQ/SgzJcAGtYTI/AAAAAAAAAwg/365lsKmZEHE/S220/danthinking.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>

