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    <subtitle type="html">The widely-recognized progressive blog, BAGnewsNotes, offers expert political analysis of news photos and political images. Also skilled at "reading pictures," its readers discuss and analyze each day's featured image in the comment threads. Winner of the 2005 Koufax Award for Best Blog Post, and a 2006 Webby Awards finalist for Best Political Blog (along with Huffington Post and Columbia Journalism Review), any number of political blogs are recognized for their analysis, but only one is known for breaking down visual propaganda and deconstructing political and media spin.</subtitle>
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        <title>Iraq Civil War #10 - Day 44</title>
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        <published>2008-05-09T01:14:21-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-09T13:05:52-07:00</updated>
        <summary>Like the image I posted back on March 27th, two days after Maliki declared war on the Mahdi, what lends the most poignancy to a situation we have otherwise grown numb to are pictures that are as this elemental. In the latest de-evolution in the unrecognized Shiite civil war, American forces -- with the support of troops from the U.S.-installed, pro-Iranian government -- have so knocked the shit out of Sadr City that a mass exodus would surely take place (similar to the exodus from Baghdad and other Iraqi cities that nobody seems to be reporting much about) if only the people, now trapped and starving, could get out. This woman's hands gripping onto a truck while waiting for food supplies to be distributed by Iraqi soldiers not only offers a powerful window on Sadr City, the personality, expression and adornment of those hands is an anguished and detailed portrait of an individual as well. accompanying article: Aid Officials Urge Relief For Baghdad Slum (Reuters via NYT) BNN Iraq Civil War thread NYT Pictures of the Day, May 8 (nytimes.com) (Photo: Petr David Josek/AP. May 2008. Sadr City. via nytimes.com)</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
        </author>
        <category scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" term="Iraq Civil War" />
        
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/">&lt;p style="text-align:center;"&gt;&#xD;
&lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/iraqi%20woman.JPG" onclick="window.open('http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/iraqi%20woman.JPG','popup','width=600,height=392,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false"&gt;&lt;img src="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/iraqi%20woman-tm.jpg" height="359" width="550" border="0" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="Iraqi Woman"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Like the &lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/03/iraq-deathly-si.html" target="_blank"&gt;image&lt;/a&gt; I posted back on March 27th, two days after Maliki declared war on the Mahdi, what lends the most poignancy to a situation we have otherwise grown numb to are pictures that are as this elemental.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
In the latest de-evolution in the unrecognized Shiite civil war, American forces -- with the support of troops from the U.S.-installed, pro-Iranian government  -- have so knocked the shit out of Sadr City that a mass exodus would surely take place (similar to the exodus from Baghdad and other Iraqi cities that nobody seems to be reporting much about) if only the people, now trapped and starving, could get out.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
This woman's hands gripping onto a truck while waiting for food supplies to be distributed by Iraqi soldiers not only offers a powerful window on Sadr City, the personality, expression and adornment of those hands is an anguished and detailed portrait of an individual as well.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;accompanying article: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-iraq-aid.html?scp=1&amp;amp;sq=aid+officials+baghdad+sadr&amp;amp;st=nyt" target="_blank"&gt;Aid Officials Urge Relief For Baghdad Slum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (Reuters via NYT)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/iraq_shiite_civil_war/index.html" target="_blank"&gt;BNN Iraq Civil War thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/05/08/nytfrontpage/20080508POD_9.html" target="_blank"&gt;NYT Pictures of the Day, May 8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (nytimes.com)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;"&gt;(Photo: Petr David Josek/AP. May 2008. Sadr City. via nytimes.com)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
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        <title>The BAG Prepares For The Second Coming (Of Obama-Mania)</title>
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        <published>2008-05-08T15:30:24-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-09T09:23:42-07:00</updated>
        <summary>(click for full size) Back in the cold of January, when Alan Chin was up in New Hampshire shooting for TheBAG, he and I had absolutely no clue whether, come fall, the Obama story -- still electrified at that moment by the post-Iowa buzz -- was going to play out more like this or this. Fast forward two months, and Alan (having spent another overnight on the lip of the Ohio primary, developing film) sends me the shot above as part of a basket of pictures. Of course, I dismissed it immediately. "And what didn't you like about the Kennedy-esque one?" Alan asked the next morning from a roadside Bob's Big Boy somewhere, I think, between Columbus and Cleveland. And in phrasing it that way, he pegged the source of my problem, knowing that, as dramatic an image as he had recorded, it in no way reflected how a struggling Team Obama had given up the pep rally in favor of the townhall. (And so, this is the "more representative" pic I went with.) But today, today. Today, just 24 hours after the results from Indiana and North Carolina, at the moment at which the Democratic race apparently reached its...</summary>
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            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
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&lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/AlanChin-Obama-Ohio.jpg" onclick="window.open('http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/AlanChin-Obama-Ohio.jpg','popup','width=700,height=472,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false"&gt;&lt;img src="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/AlanChin-Obama-Ohio-tm.jpg" height="370" width="550" border="0" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="Alanchin-Obama-Ohio"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:7pt;"&gt;(click for full size)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Back in the cold of January, when Alan Chin was up in New Hampshire shooting for &lt;em&gt;TheBAG, &lt;/em&gt;he and I had absolutely no clue whether, come fall, the Obama story -- still electrified at that moment by the post-Iowa buzz -- was going to play out more like &lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/alanchin-obama1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/alanchin-obama-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Fast forward two months, and Alan (having spent another overnight on the lip of the Ohio primary, developing film) sends me the shot above as part of a basket of pictures.  Of course, I dismissed it immediately.  "And what didn't you like about the Kennedy-esque one?" Alan asked the next morning from a roadside Bob's Big Boy somewhere, I think, between Columbus and Cleveland.  And in phrasing it that way, he pegged the source of my problem, knowing that, as dramatic an image as he had recorded, it in no way reflected how a struggling Team Obama had given up the pep rally in favor of the townhall.  (And so, this is the &lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/03/our-man-in-ohio.html" target="_blank"&gt;"more representative" pic I went with&lt;/a&gt;.)&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
But today, today.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Today, just 24 hours after the results from Indiana and North Carolina, at the moment at which the Democratic race apparently reached its tipping point, I saw as quick and dramatic a flip in the visual tone as I've ever seen before.  For the past few week, Obama has been largely &lt;a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/30/politics/politico/main4060837.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;portrayed in tandem&lt;/a&gt; with his controversial former pastor, or with &lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/05/obamas-last-day.html" target="_blank"&gt;not the friendliest looking&lt;/a&gt; white blue-collar workers, or standing alone on both the literal and metaphorical "&lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/04/obama-the-alien.html" target="_blank"&gt;other side of the tracks&lt;/a&gt;."  Looking at the images flying off the wire the past few hours, however, it seems suddenly like none of those other moments and picture were ever made.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
So, before turning the focus to the return of Obama-mania and the visual media's tilt-on-the-dime purification, glorification and idolization of the man who just a few days ago was fighting the shadows, I felt (although it's hardly a digitally-appropriate description) like dusting off that Ohio image.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/our_man_in_ohio/index.html" target="_blank"&gt;Our Man in Ohio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (March 08 - Alan Chin on the campaign trail for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;BAGnewsNotes&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;)&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/our_man_in_new_hampshire/index.html" target="_blank"&gt;Our Man in New Hampshire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (January 08 - Alan Chin on the campaign trail for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;BAGnewsNotes&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;"&gt;(image: ©Alan Chin. Westerville, Ohio, outside Columbus. March 2, 2008.  Used by permission)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
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        <title>McCain's Temperature (Or: Tweak Me Out To The Ball Game)</title>
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        <published>2008-05-08T02:15:13-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-08T19:03:19-07:00</updated>
        <summary>Going back a few weeks, the topic of McCain's temper briefly grabbed the spotlight before being quickly shooed away. I'm not saying that anger comes into play in this shot from Monday's WAPO Day In Photos. What I feel the photo does demonstrate, however, is an intensity or an emotional ferocity to the man -- his affective thermostat fixed in a range most Americans might want to think twice or three times about before trusting McCain with more than a bag of peanuts. From the caption, we know that McCain is attending an Arizona - NY baseball game; that he's among fellow Arizona fans; and that he's standing beside the team CEO, Jeff Moorad. From the image, combined with previous observation, I draw at least two conclusions about McCain's wiring, one having to do with emotional intensity, the other having to do with reactivity and its effect on the ability to process and respond to more complex emotional situations. If you compare McCain's reaction to every other fan in the photo (considering both the tonal and gestural response of the crowd, and in particular, the five, maybe six people we can clearly make out), it is exponentially more intense.</summary>
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            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
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&lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/McCain-Ballgame.jpg" onclick="window.open('http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/McCain-Ballgame.jpg','popup','width=696,height=465,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false"&gt;&lt;img src="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/McCain-Ballgame-tm.jpg" height="367" width="550" border="0" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="Mccain-Ballgame"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&#xD;
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Going back a few weeks, the topic of McCain's temper briefly grabbed the spotlight before being quickly shooed away.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
I'm not saying that anger comes into play in this shot from Monday's &lt;em&gt;WAPO Day In Photos.&lt;/em&gt;  What I feel the photo &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; demonstrate, however, is an &lt;em&gt;intensity&lt;/em&gt; or an emotional &lt;em&gt;ferocity&lt;/em&gt; to the man -- his affective thermostat fixed in a range most Americans might want to think twice or three times about before trusting McCain with more than a bag of peanuts.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
From the caption, we know that McCain is attending an Arizona - NY baseball game;  that he's among fellow Arizona fans; and that he's standing beside the team CEO, Jeff Moorad.  From the image, combined with previous observation, I draw at least two conclusions about McCain's wiring, one having to do with emotional intensity, the other having to do with reactivity and its effect on the ability to process and respond to more complex emotional situations.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
If you compare McCain's reaction to every other fan in the photo (considering both the tonal and gestural response of the crowd, and in particular, the five, maybe six people we can clearly make out), it is exponentially more intense.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
I can't say if the excitement of competition is what lights his fire, or what, but you can't find another emotional display here that is even close (except, perhaps in that arm, lower right, with the wrist watch).  What it reflects -- echoed in interpersonal allusions in McCain's self-described history, as well as the oscillation in his patience on the campaign trail -- is the degree to which Mac is susceptible to intense emotional surges.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
What is just as interesting, however, is what I describe as McCain's emotional reactivity.  What I'm referring to is not just the intensity of the response but also its speed, and how much that, too, differs from the crowd's.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
What I mean is, if you study the other people in the photo, what you encounter are emotional reactions that are more complex and nuanced.  If you had to generalize, you could say they combine at least two different attributes, the first being approval and pleasure over what's happening on the field, but second, and the more prevalent one, a more open-ended curiosity, inquisitiveness and concern for what continues to unfold in front of them.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
What scares me about McCain is not just the intensity of his emotions, but how their escalation is often based on snap-emotionally-based reactions to situations that are inherently more enduring and complicated.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Taking the picture as a modeling exercise, I'd feel a whole lot safer with a Commander-in-Chief more representative of the guy in the Hawaiian-looking shirt, the man in the red shirt, the lady in the turquoise and the white-haired guy to her right.  What you get in that package is a candidate with more awareness in the moment; more feeling informed by thought; more sustained attention; greater inquisitiveness; and more recognition of a larger picture.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=VYoL8CNKT54"&gt;Sen. McCain's Anger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (Olbermann clip/Salon interview via YouTube)&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=5badd756-4280-40fd-8b07-bc9c7b9ef915"&gt;John McCain: Yeah I Get Angry (video clip - CNN)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/19/AR2008041902224.html?hpid=topnews"&gt;McCain: A Question of Temperament&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (WAPO)&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/08/us/politics/08repubs.html"&gt;McCain Grows Testy on Question About ’04 and Kerry Partnership&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (NYT)&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/03/04/video-in-anger-john-mccain-berates-woman-representing-pow-families/"&gt;In Anger, John McCain Berates Woman Representing POW Families&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (admittedly 1992 video -- C-SPAN via Oliver Willis)&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2008/05/05/GA2008050501101.html"&gt;WAPO Day in Photos, May 5, 2008&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size:8pt;"&gt;&#xD;
(image: Jeff Chiu - AP.  May 4, 2008.  Phoenix.  washingtonpost.com)&#xD;
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        <title>Winning, Going Away?</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-49509876</id>
        <published>2008-05-06T22:33:29-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-07T21:21:57-07:00</updated>
        <summary>The permanent campaign? Never let 'em see you sweat? Still carrying the white male vote? I'm going to Disneyworld? The Hillary Bubble? This shot led yesterday's final NYT Indy/N.Carolina primary slide show. It seemed even more "reflective" this morning. (h/t: Nathan) Candidates Stump In Indiana And North Carolina (May 6, 2008 - NYT slideshow) (image: Damon Winter/The New York Times. May 6, 2005. Indianapolis. nytimes.com)</summary>
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            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
        </author>
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&lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/Clinton-Indy.jpg" onclick="window.open('http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/Clinton-Indy.jpg','popup','width=600,height=400,scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false"&gt;&lt;img src="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/Clinton-Indy-tm.jpg" height="333" width="500" border="0" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="Clinton-Indy"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&#xD;
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The permanent campaign?&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;Never let 'em see you sweat?&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;Still carrying the white male vote?&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;I'm going to Disneyworld?&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;The Hillary Bubble?&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
This shot led yesterday's final &lt;em&gt;NYT&lt;/em&gt; Indy/N.Carolina primary slide show.  It seemed even more "reflective"  this morning. &#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;(h/t: Nathan)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/05/06/us/20080506CAMPAIGN_index.html?partner=permalink&amp;amp;exprod=permalink" target="_blank"&gt;Candidates Stump In Indiana And North Carolina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (May 6, 2008 - NYT slideshow)&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;"&gt;(image: Damon Winter/The New York Times.  May 6, 2005.  Indianapolis. nytimes.com)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
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    <entry>
        <title>Bill Ayers, The Flag, Steve Clemons, And Going Off The Deep End - Updated</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-49490842</id>
        <published>2008-05-06T13:00:05-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-07T21:24:19-07:00</updated>
        <summary>Oh please, where does this all end? Apparently, the hysterical, formerly extreme right-wing "flag attack" on Obama has now wormed itself right into the liberal blogosphere, as evidenced by this image -- and the knee-jerk reaction to it -- on The Washington Note. (Sorry for the brief commercial, but this is a perfect example of why we all could use a little more skill when it comes to looking at political imagery.) Leading his post today, titled "Trampling the Flag," Steve Clemons grabs a lead image from an on-line Chicago Magazine feature on Bill Ayers. (I'll just insert, by the way, that the article and image lighting Steve's fire in the middle of this stretch of blistering condemnation of Obama, and anyone linked to him, has been sitting there since August of 2001.) So, let's talk about the picture, both formally and symbolically.</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
        </author>
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&lt;img src="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/Ayers%20flag.jpg" height="300" width="250" border="0" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="Ayers Flag"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Oh please, where does this all end?&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Apparently, the hysterical, formerly extreme right-wing "flag attack" on Obama has now wormed itself right into the liberal blogosphere, as evidenced by this image -- and the knee-jerk &lt;a href="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/05/trampling_the_f/#comments" target="_blank"&gt;reaction to it&lt;/a&gt; -- on &lt;em&gt;The Washington Note&lt;/em&gt;.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
(Sorry for the brief commercial, but this is a perfect example of why we all could use a little more skill when it comes to looking at political imagery.)&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Leading his post today, titled &lt;em&gt;"Trampling the Flag,"&lt;/em&gt; Steve Clemons grabs a lead image from an &lt;a href="http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/" target="_blank"&gt;on-line Chicago Magazine feature &lt;/a&gt;on Bill Ayers.  (I'll just insert, by the way, that the article and image lighting Steve's fire in the middle of this stretch of blistering condemnation of Obama, and anyone linked to him, has been sitting there since August of 2001.)&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
So, let's talk about the picture, both formally and symbolically.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
First, Clemons assumes -- as I'm sure many people will now, especially our wingnuts friends  -- that Ayers is stepping on the flag.   Short of consulting with Ayers or photographer Jeff Sciortino, however, that's an assumption.  Taking into consideration the "depth of field,"  what it looks like to me is that Ayers is either standing behind the flag, or standing with the flag at his feet with part of it looping between his legs.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
(Because I'm not that technically versed, I also look forward to comments here regarding the following point: If you notice how the walls in this photo -- particularly the left one -- seem to curve, there is a distinct barrel roll to the image.  How that characteristic, as well as the focus effects the perception and orientation to Ayers and the flag also could also bear examination.)&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
The larger point here, however, has to do with an attribute that perhaps did die on 9/11.  I'm talking about irony and artistic interpretation.  As a note to Steve, and anyone else who deems to project onto this image, consider that most intelligent people, in a less charged example, would choose to consider this image&lt;em&gt; in context&lt;/em&gt;, as a posed portrait with a story to tell about a former member of the violent Weatherman who has since grown up.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
In those terms, where is the logic of depicting Bill Ayers stomping on or even stepping on the flag?  How, for example, would that account for any passage of time or personal development from the time when Ayers did, effectively, stomp and piss on old glory?&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
You see, with a photo like this, you still have to account for the story it's telling, for what we call the "narrative."  If you read the article that accompanies and also underpins it, how does the reaction of Ayers wiping his feet on the flag square with the man who, although leftist and unapologetic about his past in many ways, has transitioned into a productive and even generative American citizen?&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
What I see here is an eloquent representation of a guy whose past will always frame him as an occupant of the back alley.  I see a man who has to stand before the public, before his history and also his country, and account for the tension that is always there at this feet.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
But then, I think the Clemons reaction forms a unique picture itself. It's an image reflective of the current times, and especially, the poisonous, polarized and bigoted atmosphere choking us right now.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Earlier, I mentioned the date of this photo.  Let's think about that more specifically for a moment.  It was  August 2001.  That was just a couple of months before those planes hit the World Trade Center, causing Cheney/Bush/Rove to hit the paranoia and patriotism buttons equally as hard, which led to the kind of literal, manic, kindergarten, p.c. litmus-testing with the flag that has gotten to America, gotten to Obama, and has now infected the liberal sphere.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
(h/t: Miles)&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="color:#bd2814;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;UPDATE: 5/6/08 2:13 AM EST:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; The reader who informed me of the original &lt;em&gt;Washington Note&lt;/em&gt; post was in communication with the photographer today and received the abbreviated notice that Ayers was, indeed, standing on the flag.  This fact changes my reaction about 3%.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
What it doesn't change is my protest and argument against the one-dimensional use of the portrait (any decent one having a complex and ambiguous nature, with multiple stories to tell) as a bludgeon to use against Ayers, and by direct association, Barack Obama.  What it also doesn't change -- and perhaps even heightens -- is my concern over reading this photo out of context.  How this particular image resonates in the current political atmosphere is fundamentally and unimaginably different that what it meant for Bill Ayers and this photographer to articulate the past of Joe Citizen in a city magazine in pre-9/11 and pre-"wear your patriotism on your sleeve" America.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
God forbid that liberals somehow lose the ability to appreciate the sanctity and the license inherent in visual representation and expressive symbolism.  Lose that, and then what's the flag worth, anyway?&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;"&gt;(Image: Jeff Sciortino, 2001. chicagomagazine.com)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
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    <entry>
        <title>Obama's Last Day</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-49458000</id>
        <published>2008-05-06T01:34:20-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-06T02:22:02-07:00</updated>
        <summary>(Expand browser for full view) I'm always wondering how much these primary eve slide shows are supposed to be predictive in some way. Short of that, however, I'm also wondering what this says about race (and if the black guy got out safely). Last Day of Campaigning in Indiana and North Carolina (NYT Slide Show) (image: Doug Mills/NYT. Evansville, IN. nytimes.com)</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
        </author>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/">&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;img src="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/Obama-Indiana.jpg" height="367" width="614" border="0" hspace="4" vspace="4" alt="Obama-Indiana"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align:center;"&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;"&gt;(Expand browser for full view)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
I'm always wondering how much these primary eve slide shows are supposed to be predictive in some way.  Short of that, however, I'm also wondering what this says about race (and if the black guy got out safely).&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/05/05/us/politics/20080505CAMPAIGN_index.html?partner=permalink&amp;amp;exprod=permalink" target="_blank"&gt;Last Day of Campaigning in Indiana and North Carolina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (NYT Slide Show)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size:8pt;"&gt;&#xD;
(image: Doug Mills/NYT.  Evansville, IN. nytimes.com)&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;
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    <entry>
        <title>All The Obama-Wright That Can Be Fit Into Print (Or Digital, And Now, Broadcast)</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Bagnewsnotes/~3/284401097/any-obama-wrigh.html" />
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-49454186</id>
        <published>2008-05-05T22:05:53-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-06T10:21:58-07:00</updated>
        <summary>Adam Nagourney a TV star? I don't think so. I just noticed, though, that the NYT has teamed up with MSNBC on a political broadcast called Primary Edition. What primarily stood out in today's edition, however, is that, eight days after the NYT starting milking the Jeremiah Wright story for all its color (and, on the eve of the Indiana/N.Carolina primaries), they are still working this linkage. Choreographed with this split-screen, talking head Contessa Brewer begins today's report as follows: So we start this hour with the front page of the NYT, and a new NYT poll indicates that Barack Obama has survived the controversy over Reverend Wright ... for now. But this could be an issue that follows him all the way through the general election. (She might have added: "If the NYT has anything to say about it.") Notice the screen caption, by the way. (No, not the reference to tornados, although that analogy might also fit somehow.) I'm referring to the remarkable implication that Wright, juxtaposed with Obama, somehow (still) qualifies for front page treatment. screen shot from Primary Edition May 5, 2008 (NYT Video via nytimes.com) Does this guy have balls, or what: Roberts declares `Wright...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
        </author>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/">&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;img src="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/Primary-Edition-Obama-Wrigh-1.jpg" height="298" width="400" border="0" align="left" hspace="8" vspace="0" alt="Primary-Edition-Obama-Wrigh-1"&gt;&lt;/img&gt; Adam Nagourney a TV star?  I don't think so.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
I just noticed, though, that the &lt;em&gt;NYT&lt;/em&gt; has teamed up with &lt;em&gt;MSNBC&lt;/em&gt; on a political broadcast called &lt;em&gt;Primary Edition&lt;/em&gt;.  What primarily stood out in today's edition, however, is that, eight days after the NYT starting milking the Jeremiah Wright story for all its color (and, on the eve of the Indiana/N.Carolina primaries), they are still working this linkage.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Choreographed with this split-screen, talking head Contessa Brewer begins today's report as follows:&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&#xD;
So we start this hour with the front page of the NYT, and a new NYT poll indicates that Barack Obama has survived the controversy over Reverend Wright ... &lt;em&gt;for now&lt;/em&gt;.  But this could be an issue that follows him all the way through the general election.&#xD;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
(She might have added: "If the &lt;em&gt;NYT&lt;/em&gt; has anything to say about it.")&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Notice the screen caption, by the way.  (No, not the reference to tornados, although that analogy might also fit somehow.)  I'm referring to the remarkable implication that Wright, juxtaposed with Obama, somehow (still) qualifies for front page treatment.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;screen shot from&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=72e71b60e1d75275003be25e4e2c50411e25caf6" target="_blank"&gt;Primary Edition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; May 5, 2008 (NYT Video via nytimes.com)&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;Does this guy have balls, or what:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iMs5xBgfTbr6qjrEoxDDelF8APLAD90FOU800" target="_blank"&gt;Roberts declares `Wright - free zone' for Obama interview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (AP)&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;
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    <entry>
        <title>Before The Heartbreak</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-49410714</id>
        <published>2008-05-05T00:45:15-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-05T20:59:23-07:00</updated>
        <summary>I was struck by this image of RFK in VF's new article and slide show, The Heartbreak Campaign. At first, I thought my reaction involved a fairly straight one-to-one connection between Bobby sleeping with his dog on the floor of this plane, and that fateful image burned into my memory from the floor of the Ambassador Hotel. On reflection, though, I think there is more to it than that. Nobody symbolized the politics of hope more than RFK (if the term even bears credibility anymore). And then, this photo is so syrupy innocent (sleeping on the airplane floor! curled up with his dog! THE AMERICAN WAY!), it makes the vibe of the current Presidential race feel about as dank as that ashtray compartment. The Heartbreak Campaign slide show (Vanity Fair) Article/book excerpt: The Last Good Campaign (Vanity Fair) (image: Bill Eppridge)</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
        </author>
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&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img vspace="4" hspace="8" border="0" align="left" alt="Rfksleep" src="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/rfksleep.jpg" style="width: 328px; height: 476px;" /&gt;I was struck by this image of RFK in VF's new article and slide show, &lt;em&gt;The Heartbreak Campaign&lt;/em&gt;.
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&lt;p&gt;
At first, I thought my reaction involved a fairly straight one-to-one connection between Bobby sleeping with his dog on the floor of this plane, and that fateful image burned into my memory from the floor of the Ambassador Hotel.
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
On reflection, though, I think there is more to it than that.&amp;nbsp; Nobody symbolized the politics of hope more than RFK (if the term even bears credibility anymore).&amp;nbsp; And then, this photo is so syrupy innocent (sleeping on the airplane floor!&amp;nbsp; curled up with his dog! THE AMERICAN WAY!), it makes the vibe of the current Presidential race feel about as dank as that ashtray compartment.
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/06/rfk_portfolio200806"&gt;The Heartbreak Campaign slide show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt; (Vanity Fair)
&lt;br /&gt;Article/book excerpt: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/06/rfk_excerpt200806"&gt;The Last Good Campaign&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt; (Vanity Fair)&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;(image: Bill Eppridge)&lt;/span&gt;
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    <entry>
        <title>Blowing Up The Surge</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-49408932</id>
        <published>2008-05-04T22:45:09-07:00</published>
        <updated>2008-05-08T19:04:57-07:00</updated>
        <summary>When it's all said and done (sometime within the next hundred years), the most redundant image of the Iraq occupation could well turn out to be the razed car carcass. At this point, however, what could possibly distinguish one more crippled hulk from another? In the former case (besides the fact it's an ambulance that took the hit), the method of infliction is worth noting. The roof of the car is caved in because it was damaged from the air by one of three U.S. Hellfire missiles. The specific view, however, is actually peripheral to the main target which Iraqis identify as a mosque and the American military described as a “criminal element command and control center.” What everybody does agree on, however, is that the building next-door was a hospital, which made it that much more convenient to treat the twenty-eight people injured, including a group of kids who were collecting cans to salvage.</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Michael Shaw</name>
        </author>
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When it's all said and done (sometime within the next hundred years), the most redundant image of the Iraq occupation could well turn out to be the razed car carcass.  At this point, however, what could possibly distinguish one more crippled hulk from another?&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
In the former case (besides the fact it's an ambulance that took the hit), the method of infliction is worth noting.  The roof of the car is caved in because it was damaged from the air by one of three U.S. Hellfire missiles.  The specific view, however, is actually peripheral to the main target which Iraqis identify as a mosque and the American military described as a “criminal element command and control center.”&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
What everybody does agree on, however, is that the building next-door was a hospital, which made it that much more convenient to treat the twenty-eight people injured, including a group of kids who were collecting cans to salvage.&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
What the image also well signifies, by the way, is that the surge is dead.  If it weren't, I don't imagine the American's would be resorting to bombing runs in the neighborhood -- just like that incredibly tragic one I &lt;a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/04/america-bombing.html"&gt;flagged last week&lt;/a&gt; -- in order to pacify snipers, mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47's.&#xD;
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Which leads me to the distinguishing element of the second pic.  Yes, the incinerated body, charred undercarriage and flattened tires are reflective of a roadside bomb.  What's unique, however, is the "lineage" of the car, this one happening to be part of a motorcade ferrying President Talabani's wife. Combine  Combine this action with the news from the &lt;em&gt;NYT&lt;/em&gt; article that two more bomb attacks occurred in Nisour Square, targeting the deputy chief of the traffic police, no less, and you have to think that the surge is dead, with these singular carcasses testifying to the fact.&#xD;
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&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/world/middleeast/04iraq.html?partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;pagewanted=all"&gt;Missiles Strike Sadr City, Damaging Hospital&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9pt;"&gt; (NYT)&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;(image 1: Robert Nickelsberg/Getty Images, for The New York Times. May 3, 2008. Sadr City. nytimes.com.  image 2: Iraqi President’s Wife Not Hurt by a Roadside Bomb.  May 4, 2008. Baghdad.  nytimes.com)&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
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        <title>BAGnewsSALON "Visual Week In Review" -- Late April/Early May Edition</title>
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        <summary>Thanks to everyone for being part of this evening's 90-minute edition of the BAGnewsSALON. The "Visual Week In Review" is a discussion of selected images that have been featured on BAGnewsNotes over the past week or two. Besides many readers and special friends of BNN, the panel included: John Lucaites, BAGnewsNotes contributer, as well as blogger and co-author of "No Caption Needed"; David Schonauer, Editor-In-Chief of (and blogger for) American Photo magazine; Loret Steinberg, professor of Photojournalism at RIT; Nathan Stormer, professor of Communications and Journalism at the U. of Maine (who is also well dialed-in to the progressive blogosphere); and Getty's fine staff photojournalist Mario Tama. If you happened to have missed it, check out the transcript after the jump. We welcome your comments regarding the content of the discussion, the choice/selection of subject matter, the format, the SALON concept overall, as well as future discussions you'd like to see.</summary>
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Thanks to everyone for being part of this evening's 90-minute edition of the &lt;em&gt;BAGnewsSALON.&lt;/em&gt;&#xD;
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The "Visual Week In Review" is a discussion of selected images that have been featured on BAGnewsNotes over the past week or two.  Besides many readers and special friends of BNN, the panel included:&#xD;
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John Lucaites, &lt;em&gt;BAGnewsNotes&lt;/em&gt; contributer, as well as blogger and co-author of "&lt;a href="http://nocaptionneeded.com/" target="_blank"&gt;No Caption Needed&lt;/a&gt;"; David Schonauer, Editor-In-Chief of (and blogger for) &lt;a href="http://www.popphoto.com/americanphoto/" target="_blank"&gt;American Photo magazine&lt;/a&gt;; Loret Steinberg, professor of Photojournalism at RIT; Nathan Stormer, professor of Communications and Journalism at the U. of Maine (who is also well dialed-in to the progressive blogosphere); and Getty's fine staff photojournalist &lt;a href="http://www.mariotama.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Mario Tama&lt;/a&gt;.&#xD;
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If you happened to have missed it, check out the transcript after the jump.  We welcome your comments regarding the content of the discussion, the choice/selection of subject matter, the format, the &lt;em&gt;SALON&lt;/em&gt; concept overall, as well as future discussions you'd like to see.&#xD;
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&lt;span style="font-family:serif;font-size:11pt;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;MAY 4, 2008 – BAGnewsSALON transcript – Visual Week In Review&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:serif;font-size:11pt;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1.  Hillary/Obama composite - TIME Magazine Cover&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;Hil-Bama TIME cover&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:11 MichaelShaw I was wondering what reactions you had to the TIME image of two weeks ago forming a composite between Hillary and Obama...&lt;/span&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:12 Nathan I think it signals political death.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:12 loret steinberg The juxtapoxition of the two images is certainly interesting.... Obama's more gentle expression makes Clinto's expression look pretty wild.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:12 littlestgator I thought the choice of b/w vs. sepia was interesting--- sepia, kind of old time, old school nostalgia, B/w also classic, but not compared to the sepia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:13 Nathan The tension it creates, with the sepia and B&amp;amp; W adn the declaration of defeat creates a self=defeat, It feels like to me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:13 littlestgator he gets "there Can"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:13 littlestgator she gets "one"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:13 loret steinberg Does anyone think that the differences in the quality of light in the two time images have an impact?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:14 Nathan I do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:14 littlestgator kind of a ref. to his yes we can, her kind of more ego driven clinton machine... (though as is obvious I am biased)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:14 littlestgator the softer focus on his is striking- her's is more sharp. clear&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:15 lucaites All of this can go in multiple directions. The eye is naturlaly drawn first to the left side,so we could say that BO frames our reading of the image ... she is contextualized by him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:15 MichaelShaw In what way(s)?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:16 Mario Tama Thank you John. For sure I think if I were to go back in time to RIT lighting class, Obama- nice, Hillary- re-shoot&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:16 lucaites Plus balck and white -- or more properly gray scale,seems more "real" or "authentic" than the "sepia" which, in an age of photoshop, is really something on the order of kitsch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:16 littlestgator I still think the choice of b/w vs. sepia is the more signifcant undertone to the image&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:16 Nathan I also think the left-right dynamic, combined with the tonal change, effectively accentuates disjunciton in unity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:16 loret steinberg i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:16 littlestgator not kitch, nostalgia... for the 90's, for the party as they imagine it... for old school politics?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:17 loret steinberg I agree -- the natural tonality on Obama looks more natural. The sepia and use of flash is unnatural..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:17 Nathan I like the kitsch angle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:17 lucaites maybe nostalgia in an older day, but now everyone can do it ... and easily so ... maybe, in a sense, nostalgia becomes a version of kitsch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:17 Michael Steinberg A subliminal whiff of fraudulence?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:17 littlestgator that would cover a lot of her campaign tone&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:17 Nathan nostalgia generated at need becomes kitsch?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:18 lucaites plus looks at the eys. His are making contact iwth us, she looks like she is drugged out ... her irises completely open&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:18 littlestgator what do you think of can vs. one as the key words on each half&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:18 loret steinberg One of the things I fear is that voters now think by association -- visually, do we respond to colors of suits and hair and the environment rather than the substance?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:18 loret steinberg a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:18 lucaites I have to leave for a short time folks ...ahve to pick up my daughter. ... hope to be back in about 30 minutes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:19 Nathan by John&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:19 davi schonauer I think we have to say that we do respond to suit colors and hair.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:20 Nathan I am not sure I buy the substance vs. connotation distinction. I don't know of many contexts when substance is free of association or association cannot be associated back to substance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:20 Nathan Which is not say people do not respond to color, clothing, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:20 Nathan I just don't know if that distinction is effective is summing up what is happening visually in politics.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:20 MichaelShaw I wonder about the romantic dimension here, like there can be a synthesis when these two are tearing each other apart (or, at least she has been pretty agressive), spurred on, in fact, by the media, TIME, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:21 Mario Tama hillary is set aganst a cave-like backdrop as a specimin while obama is set in a cafe as a moment in time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:21 davi schonauer To me there isn't much togetherness in this image. It's about opposites stuck together against their wills&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:22 Nathan I agree davi. And to add, this hybrid being must lose half of itself to survive, hence the morbidity encoded in the image.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:22 Michael Steinberg Or the Democratic party of two minds?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:22 Nathan yes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:23 MichaelShaw I guess it's also about the gender and racial divide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:23 loret steinberg Perhaps this cover does, indeed, depict the nature of the race...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:23 MichaelShaw On BNN, one thing I observed was how TIME calls the race even, through this visual, when in fact Obama has a significant lead statistically...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:24 Al anyone think it is strange that the O in ONLY is perfectly in the center between the two sides?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:24 littlestgator I don't think it is about racial divides&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:24 littlestgator since they then would have used color photos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:24 Nathan Isn't it also the case that left signals "older" or familiar and right the new? If so, is there a little irony in the two halves?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:25 littlestgator left liberal right conservative too&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:25 MichaelShaw Interesting point. Could you imagine it the other way around...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:25 loret steinberg I'm not sure about the "o" and the left/right old and new --- seems more literal than visual&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:25 Nathan ah, good point&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:26 loret steinberg One thing worth noting is that we read left to right in our culture, so we see Obama's calmer gaze and then Clinton's seems even more startling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:26 Nathan yes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:26 littlestgator that is true&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:26 Mario Tama great point&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:26 davi schonauer Ultimately, the cover is really quite unattractive; I feel like the end product is a very damaged person. I wonder how it did on the newsstand. My instinct is that is probably won't do well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:27 Nathan as John noted earlier, Obama becomes the context for seing Hillary because of the l-r reading&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:27 loret steinberg I do wish we could talk to the picture editor at TIME and find out if they had even considered any of the impact&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:27 Nathan Am I in company when I say the image just makes me tense?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:27 davi schonauer For me, yes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:27 loret steinberg The clearest message is that there is a significant difference between the candidates. And, yes, the image is disturbing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:28 MichaelShaw Tense, yes. Isn't "damaged person" intentional, though, since the race is so fractious?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:28 Nathan If that is what TIME wanted, they pulled it off.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:28 Michael Steinberg Surely this was one of those imageswhere the idea came first, and a lot of the visua imact6 probby didn't occur to the art director...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:28 davi schonauer I agree.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:28 Nathan it does feel like a very concept driven image that went in search of design.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:29 Sion Touhig apparently the image is 'inspired' by an ad:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:29 loret steinberg There's usually a discussion, especially about cover images, but often there's little time for reflection about the meaning of the photograph.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:29 Nathan Thanks Sion, very interesting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:29 MichaelShaw But David, were you implying that "damaged person" is bad for sales?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:30 loret steinberg Absolutely - thanks. Although the idea is classic, the idea is way too close in concept. Copyright issue?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:30 Sion Touhig its some kind of US sports thing, but Im totally ignorant about that...rivalry between two players?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:30 Nathan yes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:30 Mario Tama isn't hillary's image aligned gradually slightly higher than obama? eyebrows, nose, mouth...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:30 davi schonauer Only that an unattractiveness will generally hurt. People might want to look away rather than buy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:31 loret steinberg Michael -- I'd think that people would respond to the split and want to read the article, even though the image is unsettling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:31 black dog barking Unattractive like a car wreck? That might sell.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:31 littlestgator eyes seem even but not the rest&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:32 Sion Touhig direct ringflash for Hilary...more flattering natural light for the 'Bamster...but maybe it was the only frontal images they could get from file&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:32 davi schonauer Yes, maybe that's true. Do you think the point is that the race is a car wreck?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:32 littlestgator I doubt these were the only ones they could get&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:32 Nathan The lip-merge also creates a smirk no one can actually own.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:33 davi schonauer I hate to say this, but I don't see a smirk. I see a stroke victim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:33 littlestgator he looks very determined but I can't get a feeling for her thoughts from her eye in this picture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:33 Hubris Sonic It reminds me of that woman who had the face transplant in the UK&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:33 Nathan ha!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:33 Mario Tama in the end it disembodies both&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:34 littlestgator makes a joint ticket seem even less probable or appealing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:34 Hubris Sonic her image is ghostly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:34 Nathan exactly, mario, reduces them to the contest and nothing more&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:34 MichaelShaw I think this doesn't bode well for the Democrats -- which, pardon my bias -- is what the cover was going for...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:34 littlestgator yes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:34 MichaelShaw (What I thought it was for...)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:34 Hubris Sonic the 2nd image, otherness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:34 loret steinberg It's clear that the image grabs attention. I think that's the point. The important thing is to compare some of the photographs inside, accompanying the text. And it does appear to be a single person with a serious split. Definitely the message, Michael.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:35 Nathan that is what I feel in regard to morbidity - it is stipulating the self-defeat of the dems&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:serif;font-size:11pt;"&gt;16:35 MichaelShaw Perhaps we could transition to the second image, the shot of Obama on the train platform -- from Newsweek&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:35 Hubris Sonic and is about to get hit by the 12:30 from Tulsa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:35 Hubris Sonic dont cross over Barack!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:35 littlestgator Also the blurry guy all the way on the right seems to have his hands on his hips in an agressive stance&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:35 Al reminds me of that Tracy Chapman song -- 'over the tracks / that separate whites from blacks'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:35 loret steinberg The image of Obama is almost editorial... he's standing, helpless, on the other side of the tracks and can't reach the people on the other side&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 Hubris Sonic they are blurry and out of focus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 littlestgator he looks a bit tired too&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 littlestgator shoulders kind of sagging&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 black dog barking I see Spinal Tap in that image. Their audience bored and heckling ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 Nathan a pol in search of a constituency&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 Sion Touhig it reminded me of that famous image of Babe Ruth shot from the back when hes old and tired&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 MichaelShaw Here's the post I did, btw, which shows the image alone AND the one with the title over it:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 Hubris Sonic caution lights on the signals over there&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 Nathan maybe it is a reality TV premise&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:36 loret steinberg Obama and the public are standing and looking at each other.... but there's no clear connection or contact. That's what I meant about helpless and editorializing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:37 black dog barking Isn't BHO swarmed whereever he goes? Where'd they get this pic ??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:37 Nathan You have two sets of tracks and a fence to cross to reach the people - the impossibility of O's "hope"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:38 littlestgator why is everything underlined in our chat now?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:38 loret steinberg Editors try to select images that depict the content of stories and how they interpret that content. It appears that editors in the past two weeks have been selecting images that show Obama in a weaker position...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:38 davi schonauer This is a marvelous picture. Lot's to look at and think about. Can we tell whether the audience is black or white?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:38 black dog barking Impossibility of hope, elitist on the other side of the tracks ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:38 littlestgator I hate the wrong side of the tracks feeling, really disgusting editorial slant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:38 loret steinberg I enlarged it as much as possible and there appear to be a couple peope of color....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:38 lucaites I'm back.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:38 Hubris Sonic there is a desire to project unto the people on the platform a message.. what are they saying.. are they friends or foes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:39 MichaelShaw I think the ambiguity re: the race of the people opposite is one of the most interesting things about the pic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:39 Nathan they seem to be taking Obama in as an attraction or oddity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:39 Hubris Sonic Obama's back&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:39 Mario Tama I actually think it is a legitimate portrait, Obama is a man on his own side of "the tracks", like no other candidate in history, the other side is...american history?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 littlestgator no one on the otherside is smiling or waving... no happy viewers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 Nathan it reminds me of the ubiquitous "behind the performer" shot in films and music videos, only here it is placed in politics on the road&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 davi schonauer Strangely, I actually sense a kind of...not hope, but a kind of waiting. We're waiting to see what Obama will do next, and how the people will respond.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 Hubris Sonic above the crowd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 loret steinberg Good point, Mario -- he is, indeed, on his own.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 Sion Touhig i thought it had a MLK vibe...you know that speech about 'Ive seen the promised land, might not get there with ya..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 littlestgator was this taken in PA?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 lucaites Plus, the image actually invites us to see the world from his perspective&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:40 loret steinberg I wonder how many white folks thought of that, Sion??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 Hubris Sonic have to be down south I suspect&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 Nathan but is he alone?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 Hubris Sonic We have his back&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 Nathan is is unique&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 Sion Touhig no idea mate...its like he can see where he wants to go...but theres still a long way to go...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 Nathan but his support has been extraordinary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 loret steinberg In the picture he is alone. We have to remember that even if there were 400 people around him, the message of the picture is clear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 Hubris Sonic yes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:41 lucaites But what does "having his back" mean? It could actually put us "behind him" as a phallanx ... support for the leader ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:42 davi schonauer Is he heroic in the picture?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:42 lucaites Really Loret? What is the clear message?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:42 Nathan we get to see him without him seeing us, the viewer is advantaged visually&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:42 littlestgator In the bigger shot on Michael's previous post you can see what he is standing on. He is very very close to the edge of the platform&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:42 MichaelShaw I would love to agree with Mario and Hubris, etc., but contextually, it's hard to see this as admirable when Obama is being so marginalized in the political sphere right now&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 Mario Tama it's a cliffhanger image&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 littlestgator it is def. a negative impact image&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 Michael Steinberg It's different from the traditional behind the back shot, which is often over-the-shoulder, a substitute for a subjective shot where the viewer identifies with thr seaker..not so here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 Hubris Sonic I keep waiting for the train to whiz by&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 Nathan that is what I was referring to -- accentuating isolation which is at odds with his financial and voter support&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 Hubris Sonic B&amp;amp;O railroad ;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 lucaites Michael -- I think "marginalized" is really not the right word here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 Sion Touhig yeah its 'the lonely man' pic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:43 Mario Tama Are we talking about the image or the image with the text over it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:44 lucaites I agree the text makes a big -- huge-- difference. i was just looking at the image.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:45 MichaelShaw The caption "promotes" it as: "Otherness"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:45 Nathan Translating difference into isolation or separation - a visual equivocation that contradicts his popularity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:45 Hubris Sonic seems like an editoral projection.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:46 loret steinberg The image alone makes Obama stand apart and it can be read as his being separate from the people on the other side of the fence. The text suggests a more emphatic otherness.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:46 lucaites I agree Michael. The caption is needed, so to speak, and it makes all the difference in the world, removing ambiguity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:46 Nathan What if they had done a story about how is like so a lot of previous candidates?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:46 Nathan Obama's "commoness"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:46 Hubris Sonic plenty of other ways to show his otherness, rail is a lower class way to travel. look at the people, they are wealthy americans&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:47 loret steinberg How are you interpreting them as wealthy?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:47 Hubris Sonic i meant not wealtyh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:47 lucaites I think the "wealthy" comment was tongue in cheeck. Note that BO has a "collar" and they don't ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:47 Hubris Sonic a white one&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:47 lucaites Exactly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:48 Michael Steinberg ot an image that shows us something but a visual presentation of something we've already decided.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:48 Michael Steinberg sorry--I was trying 6o add&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:48 littlestgator also distance distance distance... many train shots would show the opposite tracks much closer... this is quite a spead&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:48 MichaelShaw Being on the other platform, isn't he also traveling in opposite direction from the townspeople?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:49 Hubris Sonic he seems to be going nowhere&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:49 littlestgator yes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:49 Nathan and train tracks as marking separation is so racially embedded, regardless of editorial choice, the image travels with those connotations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:49 littlestgator feels very sad at a deep level&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:50 loret steinberg I don't think anyone appears to be going anywhere in the picture. The confrontation and consideration of each other appears (in the image) to be a permanent situation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:50 Hubris Sonic is that a "white house" across the tracks?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:50 Hubris Sonic unreachable&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:50 black dog barking house on the hill.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:50 loret steinberg No columns or security, though. Sometimes a white house is just a white house.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:50 Mario Tama it's as if he's on wrong side of the tracks in either direction&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:50 loret steinberg Absolutely.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:51 Nathan waiting in his otherness, isolated, and immobile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:51 MichaelShaw Does the white house pull for sense that it's a "white" town. Emphasizing his trouble attracting white blue collar support?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:51 lucaites lucaites&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:51 Hubris Sonic with beer belly joe six pack over there&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:51 MichaelShaw Oops, missed Loret's "just a white house" comment...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:51 Nathan I think the blue collar/white color gap is definitely implicated&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:52 MichaelShaw Well, he is standing out there in his suit pants...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:52 Nathan with his bottled water&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:52 Al i think there would be a very different read on this image pre-"bitter"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:52 black dog barking BHO fancy rhetoric does him no good here ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:52 davi schonauer The bottled water is so important&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:52 Nathan indeed, Al&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:52 MichaelShaw Elitism?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 Hubris Sonic i dont get the elitism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 littlestgator visiting a place where u can't or don't want to drink the water&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 Hubris Sonic he shirt is too... worn, lived in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 Hubris Sonic he looks tired&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 lucaites I'm not so sure about bottled water = elitism. I was just on the nY Subway last week and saw what I took to be gang bangers drinking bottled water.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 Hubris Sonic romney always had that heavy starch going&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 Sion Touhig Id probably have shot it but not thought much at the time. But later it would have struck a cord&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 Nathan my overall feeling about this image is that it simply floats against the fact of his strong popularity, as if a narrative is being forced overmuch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:53 Hubris Sonic i agree...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:54 loret steinberg Nathan, I agree entirely. This becomes editorializing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:54 Hubris Sonic the editor overworked the language&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:54 littlestgator I think even if gang bangers drink water the evian elitism taint is still there&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:54 Nathan good point, John&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:54 Sion Touhig evian??!! That aint freedom water!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:54 lucaites I don't disagree that this image accents the elitism issue, I just think it is a stretch to connect it with bottled water.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:54 MichaelShaw John, do you think the water lends a particular read, thouh?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:54 davi schonauer I agree that there is a disconnect between this image and Obama's front-runner status.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:55 lucaites That he is thirsty?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:55 Nathan all water is free at some point, it is just the clean water that is not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:55 Hubris Sonic noone has mentioned the fence&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:55 loret steinberg I mentioned the fence way early...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:55 Hubris Sonic sorry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:55 loret steinberg it's okay.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:55 Nathan so literalist, John&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:55 littlestgator I disagree... I work in the rest. business and travel... and there is definately something thought of as elitist in bottled water&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:56 Nathan the fence is important, yes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:56 Hubris Sonic i do think the photographer included it in purpose&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:56 loret steinberg It's a point. I think the kind of bottled water becomes elitist. Now I can see people everywhere enlarging the image to look at the shape.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:56 Nathan tracks and a fence&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:56 Hubris Sonic the water i mean&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:56 lucaites That's interesting ... can you clarify some (on the industry that treats water as elitist) ... who thinks that? How do you know.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:56 loret steinberg The photographer had to include it because Obama was carrying it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:57 lucaites Well, Loret, s/he could have cropped it out? No?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:57 Mario Tama You wouldn't cut his hand off&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:57 Michael Steinberg John, REAL Americans dink Coke.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:57 davi schonauer No, cropping would be the ultimate editorializing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:57 lucaites okay ... fair enough&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:57 Hubris Sonic is it coincedence that the lights are yellow?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:57 MichaelShaw Makes me appreciate how much one can bring to an image if one is steeped in the political narrative, which -- that week -- was screaming Obama = Elitist&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:57 littlestgator Well, regular folks ask for tap... rich folks shell out the extra 3-7 $ for bottled water... and/or... when traveling, locals drink from the tap... Others don't want to and warn... "don't drink the water."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:58 Mario Tama If you did cut his hand off Michael could do an entire Salon on that&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:58 lucaites LOL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:58 Al he may be wearing a white collar, but his sleeves are rolled up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:58 MichaelShaw I might have to take the watch out too. Rolex?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:58 lucaites Actually, I've been known to write about photos that feature just hands myself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;16:59 loret steinberg But that would have been a different picture and a different cover, right?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:serif;font-size:11pt;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3.   TIME "War On Global Warming" Cover&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;17:09 MichaelShaw Okay, so now that Lucaites is back, what about that shot of those guys hoisting the tree???&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;17:10 Nathan tree hoisting = conquest&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;17:10 littlestgator I hate hate hate the war reference applied to everything&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;17:10 Books Alive Some WWI vets were not happy campers!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;17:11 davi schonauer I think Michael brought up the phallic symbolism. I had't seen that at first. Brilliant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt;"&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;br&gt;17:11 MichaelShaw David, you wrote