Beat The Casino Forums Where The Pros Are - Baccarat http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/ This is the main forum for discussion of Baccarat methods and anything associated with it. en Sat, 26 May 2012 20:13:06 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/images/misc/rss.png Beat The Casino Forums Where The Pros Are - Baccarat http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/ amazing!! http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/5GUCGr6J5jU/showthread.php Wed, 23 May 2012 00:19:31 GMT Like the Seahog, and probably many others of you, I do check out what is going on at Baccarat Forums on a regular basis. Came across a post called Amazing!! Makes a lot of sense, at least to me. Worth your time to check it out...I tested it on six live shoes today, all winners. Easy... Like the Seahog, and probably many others of you, I do check out what is going on at Baccarat Forums on a regular basis.

Came across a post called Amazing!!

Makes a lot of sense, at least to me.

Worth your time to check it out...I tested it on six live shoes today, all winners.

Easy enough to test on some of the shoes you have at home...or online.

Read the whole thread..you will get the picture...

Just another tool in the Bac toolbox! ]]> Baccarat kachatz1 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6884 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6884 I’m back from a Las Vegas trip - applying my signaling system with NOR http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/vt8_qxUIAS4/showthread.php Wed, 16 May 2012 03:37:05 GMT I’m back from a Las Vegas trip with substantial winning units at the Baccarat games. About half of the winnings I gave back playing other gambling games. I drew a conclusion that Baccarat should be my only game at the Casinos. I basically took the NOR approach to its next level by extending its... I’m back from a Las Vegas trip with substantial winning units at the Baccarat games. About half of the winnings I gave back playing other gambling games. I drew a conclusion that Baccarat should be my only game at the Casinos.

I basically took the NOR approach to its next level by extending its approach using signaling flow marked on a score card as each hand is dealt out/played. It basically will “alert” the player to stay or play the next upcoming hand. You must practice and be able to record both the NOR and the signaling method. It requires hours of practice. You can't marked mistakes on the score cards...

As we all know with the NOR approach HE/SHE must play every hand. In times losses are taking place leading us to navigate in the majority of the time to an approach called OTR (On The Run) using light progression of 1,2 or 1,2,3. It's all relative to your bankroll along with your Stop/Loss (Most of the time -8 should be OK) and Take/profit goals (+10 to +15 depending on how the shoe runs).

Not sure how some of the visitors/members on this website got my email address. I’m flooded with emails requesting to share the NOR and along with my signaling system.

Here is my response:

First of all the NOR system is copyrighted and I don’t have a way to confirm that it has been legally purchased by a player.

Secondly and I’m not trying to be rude, my signaling approach along with NOR is at its early development stages and requires more work. However, it did great during the games in Las Vegas and Atlantic City.

Above and beyond, I’ll not shift away players from the original approach called NOR.

John (New York City) ]]> Baccarat jrhelp007 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6880 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6880 <![CDATA[Comments on "Ellis plays NOR Baccarat" (On YouTube).]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/26cBOrh8LG8/showthread.php Wed, 16 May 2012 03:09:40 GMT While on my flight trip to Las Vegas, I watched on my computer a YouTube video "Ellis plays NOR Baccarat".

You can view the game on the Internet at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WEw...feature=fvwrel

A student read Ellis hand by hand a game which took place on June 4, at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Biloxi, MS.

The Game started with two players followed by two bankers. The O/R count for the first four hands was at -1. Also based on the four hands you could easily classify the beginning of the game as Two’s. Meaning that system S40 which is designed for choppy shoes will not be qualified for now. Therefore, if you studied the F2, F3 and OTB4L you could easily assigned those systems to the game. Above and beyond, the best system qualified for this type of shoe is an old system called OTB4L. Why? Because OTB4L favorite is two’s!

During the demonstrated game Ellis has been disrupted by one or two of his students leading to several error in the game, which I’ll not comment in this post.

In the majority of the time Ellis goals & objective in a Baccarat game is to reach +10 units.

I attached a snapshot picture from the Video where I point out an error made in the calculation of the score. Ellis assumed that he reached is goal (+10) but the +10 has been reached at the next hand.

Reaching the +10 unit could off taken place much earlier in the game, but as I stated one or two students kept confusing Ellis and themselves as to which side the next bet should be taking place. In another words the “carrots were telling the Gardner how to plant the seeds”.

I attached the chart with the proper score.

Thank you Ellis for helping us out there to improve our game using an approach called NOR.

John (New York City).
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glad to know new friends in forum :biggrin:

and in the past of baccarat i don't lose in baccarat with my formula. ]]> Baccarat bpstation http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6862 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6862 Hey Guys!!! http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/vWxgeV3Nx1c/showthread.php Thu, 03 May 2012 06:56:28 GMT What Casinos Have Progressive Jackpot Baccarat? ----------------------------- Baccarat Online What Casinos Have Progressive Jackpot Baccarat?
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Baccarat Online ]]> Baccarat jacksonrabin http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6861 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6861 Back in Atlantic City.Arrived at the Hilton Casino. Up with +5 units at a slow game. http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/le-eUPijmkM/showthread.php Tue, 24 Apr 2012 01:16:13 GMT Hello everyone.

Back in Atlantic City, arrived at the Hilton Casino.

At the Hilton Casino, 2nd floor, several baccarat tables were opened. All games were mini baccarat style. The dealer deals player and banker hands. The minimum bet at the table was $25 with 5% commission applies to banker's winning hand.

Two tables were full and the third table had 3 players, I sat at the table as the 4th player. The game was in progress, about 20 hands dealt into a choppy shoe. So I missed the “ATTACK” using the S40 system.

The floor person was flirting with the dealer at the other table so no much attention was taking place at our table.
I don’t know why but I felt something is strange about the dealer on my table. The way she was dealing the cards and approaching the players bet you could swear that she is new to this game. I believe she was struggling to apply “her knowledge of the baccarat game and its rules”. Well, I was correct. Here is what took place in the next few hands?

3 players betting, I’m observing. The player side was dealt 4 2, Banker J 1. In Baccarat, the rules call for the player to stand. Meaning, no more cards should be dealt to the player hand. But the dealer made a mistake and dealt a card to the player side, a nine (9). At the same time she dealt another card to the banker a Q (queen). The dealer announced players win and collected the bets from the table.
The 3 players which were betting on the Banker went nuts. They started raising their voices mumbling in Chinese and pointing fingers to the dealer.

The dealer called the floor person. The PIT Boss and a security guard walked over to the table as well. The dealer was trying to explain what took place at the last hand while the 3 players were shouting loud words in a foreign language. The PIT Boss asked them to come down while attempting to listen to the dealer’s story. Next the Pit Boss recalled the 6 cards from the mock. He also called surveillance asking to review the tape and explain them over the phone what took place.

The Casino admitted that the dealer made an error and the card with a value of 9 was supposed to be dealt to the baker side. But since the Pit Boss and surveillance were able to recreate the hands, a decision has been made that the player is the winner against the banker 6:0. The card value of 9 was used for the banker. The queen card was placed back into the mock and was considered as a fouled card. A player from another table came over to help in translating to the 3 players Casino’s decision.

The 3 players left the table shouting on the Dealer and the Pit Boss as the exit the dragon room. I was left alone with the dealer. So before the Pit Boss went to file an incident report, I asked if it’s ok for the dealer to reshuffle the cards or use the second set of cards (8 decks) located inside the Master Shuffler machine. To my surprise he agreed to use the second set. I purchased 20 units of $25 each. luckily a new dealer arrived. Two new players joined the table as well.

Note: I forgot to mention that for the weekend trip I already practiced about 55 shoes to include F2, F3’s and was ready to exploit the game above and beyond the S40 approach. Who knows I may go OTR (On The Run).

It was time for dinner, but I decided to play one shoe. My goal and objective was to win +10 unit. My stop/loss was set to -8 units.

The game started slow. No one wanted to start betting. I always wait for 2 to 3 hands sometimes more before I decide which system should be applied to the shoe/game?

Attached please find the my play at the Hilton. Slow game which generated +5 units.

GOD Bless,

John ]]> Baccarat jrhelp007 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6851 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6851 NOR NET Bet Training Webinar http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/yo_ys9qCFzY/showthread.php Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:22:17 GMT Folks, By popular request I have secured the GoToMeeting training interface. You will be able to see a live video of Ellis speaking and also utilize a dial in number to hear or use the VOIP option on your computer to hear us. Ellis will be flying up on the 18th of May and we will be... Folks,

By popular request I have secured the GoToMeeting training interface. You will be able to see a live video of Ellis speaking and also utilize a dial in number to hear or use the VOIP option on your computer to hear us. Ellis will be flying up on the 18th of May and we will be broadcasting from my house on the 19th. This presents a unique opportunity to get first hand training on Net Betting and NOR from the Worlds Most Interesting Baccarat Player (Ellis). You can tweak your play and get your questions answered first hand. Whether you are in Singapore or California it will make no difference. Learn from Ellis directly for a fraction of the cost and avoid scheduling issues. We look forward to you signing up and joining the seminar. You must be a NOR private member to sign up for this seminar.

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Keith ]]> Baccarat Keith Smith http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6850 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6850 how would NOR play this shoe http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/NMkcjYebG58/showthread.php Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:11:35 GMT hi all,

i'm a new guy here, and not yet subscribed to lifetime membership. can anyone show me how NOR would have properly played in the following shoe. i'm sure i won't understand it, but i just want to know how well NOR will perform in this shoe.

P 13134111131
P 22113821
B 2271

it's a 6 decks shoe, i also wonder if NOR could be implemented into 6 decks shoe. thanks. ]]> Baccarat NutZilla http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6837 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6837 NOR Baccarat my trip story to Foxwoods and Mohegan SUN - Ho GOD, am I dreaming? http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/k3N5NFi_DuQ/showthread.php Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:37:31 GMT I'm excited and happy from the result of my last games at Atlantic City. I decided this time to play baccarat at the Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods casinos in Connecticut.

The traffic was slow. It took me about 4 hours to get there. Thank you GPS...:confused:

I arrived at about 2:00 pm at Foxwoods waiting on a sit at the baccarat tables. The majority of the players are elderly people most likely arrived with the daily casino buss. The tables were $20 minimum.

While waiting I remembered from watching Video that Ellis told the audience that one of the key elements to success in winning baccarat is to find the proper table, collect history on the last games Also I had time to peek into previous play on the tables by reviewing old cards left on the table.

It took about 25 minutes and sit number 1 opened. I sat down. The Shoe is in progress it was dealt about 31 hands. Overall the shoe cycle is gearing toward natural. Based on my calculation using my score card the score is hoovering around + - 2.

I set at the table for about 10 minutes. The floor person walks over to me and asked me if I'm planning to play? Otherwise I have to give up the sit because they had other players requesting to play at this table.

I cashed $500. The score was -1.

I waited a few more hands and here it came a breakout of the natural flow took place entering a choppy shoe. Perfect for the S40 approach.

I started to bet. The count O/R was at +6 so I increased my bets from $20 to $100. It triggered the floor person attention, standing next to me. I didn't worry about that because I'm not cheating. They are with their wired suffered cards.

The problem why the floor person was standing next to me is not because I bet a black chip. She wanted to see/follow on how am I picking up my bet. Why? Because the rest of the table started to follow me and waited for me to place a bet. I kept a low profile. My goal was to get 10 to 15 units and wait for the next shoe. But the attention toward me was too high, I was about to leave. The floor person asked me to color in. Because they were short of chips. I ended up with +18 mixed bet for a total of $1,300.00.

Scared but happy from the result of the first game, I left the Casino and drove towards Mohegan Sun about a 30 minutes ride. The staff was nice. As usual I kept a low profile. The two tables next to me were crowded, unbelievable $10 minimum. I guess the economy does impact the Casinos.

I set at an empty $25 dollar table asked the dealer to start the game. The dealer started to prepare the game asking the floor person a permission to extract cards from the master shuffler machine.

I cashed a $1000.00 ($500 in $25's and 5 black chips $100 value each unit). I did not want to play by myself. But the dealer told me that she doesn't care if I place 1 chip on the banker and 1 chip on the player "simulating a free hand". Worse case scenario will be losing 5% commission if the Banker won. Luckily as the game about to start 3 other players joined. I was so happy. Because I wasn't sure if the Pit - Boss or the Casino allows that type of bets? I was afraid to ask. Remember I'm trying to keep a low profile. All I know that in Las Vegas you can request a few free hands without "abusing" their allowance.

Although the NOR approach calls to observe then enter and play the hands according to the O/R (SAP is a plus). My approach is slightly different because for now I 'm running the S40 approach only. I'm looking to intercept my signal. A conservative play. In times it leaves big winnings on the table. But I 'm not greedy. It will change as soon as I start applying the navigation approach of using a combined 40N, F2, F3 and SAP at the table. I'm still practicing. No rush the Casinos are going no where.

The current game at the table is slow. A new dealer arrived. She took her time talking to the dealer at the next table. The 2 out of the 3 players at this table are about to lose all their bankroll. All left so I left too going for a nice dinner. I end up with $331.25.

GOD Bless,

John ]]> Baccarat jrhelp007 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6836 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6836 Pure S40 game applied to Baccarat game at the Borgata Casino, AC April, 2012 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/vzv6ghEC4Vw/showthread.php Thu, 19 Apr 2012 03:31:20 GMT Hi Ellis and participants/viewer on this board.

Once I got the NOR system, it took me about a few days to understand the S40, F2,F3 and SAP approach.

Practicing 16 hours a day x 6 days a week at home has been the key for progressing with the NOR system. . I made a decision that for now I'll adopt system-S40 which is a perfect approach for a choppy shoe. Down the road I'll learn to navigate/switch during the game based on the O/R to the F2, F3 and use SAP as well.

The key is I trained myself to wait while an F2,F3 activities are taking place. I also wait the proper signal, very conservative. So the key is to wait patiently and be discipline. Also I ignored other players action(s) and the noise/excitement on the table. Why? Because as the table resumed its choppiness the heavy betters loss almost their entire bankroll and the table was quite...

Here is what took place on this table. $60 minimum bet. No commission/dragon table.I ignored the ties and the dragon bets. Purchased $600. Each unit had a value of $20 so the minimum bet is 3 units.

Using the Money management, I didn't choose the 1,2 or U1D2M2. I stayed with flat bet. My bankroll was small relative to the minimum bet requirements ($60). Also we had only 3 tables open. Not many players were found in the Baccarat area.

I attached my activity at the Borgata table (PDF format).

After making $300 at the Borgata I went to gamble across at the Harrah's Casino. Same system S40 flat bets and made 10 units time $25 total $250.00. Yes the minimum table was $25. Thereafter, I took the Jitney to the Trump Plaza. Made +23 units in 3 games. Minimum bet was $20. Total; of $460.

Total winnings for this 24 hours trip was $1,010.

Not to be greedy but if I knew how to navigate from and to F2, F3 and use SAP, my winning probably would off been at least $3,000 to $5000. But time will tell.

John, New York City.
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]]> Baccarat jrhelp007 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6835 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6835 RWS experience http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/U-haubOGQ1E/showthread.php Mon, 16 Apr 2012 02:41:09 GMT It has been a few days at spore. When first time i entered rws, wow so yellow, bright. To enter must show passport. Genting no need. But here they serve softdrinks, candy. Nice. I have met some btc asia. 5 so far. We played together sometimes. Although we dont use the same system, i respect... It has been a few days at spore. When first time i entered rws, wow so yellow, bright. To enter must show passport. Genting no need. But here they serve softdrinks, candy. Nice.

I have met some btc asia. 5 so far. We played together sometimes. Although we dont use the same system, i respect them. Doesnt matter as long can win. It is so fun playing together, laugh together. Sometimes if noone bet, i put 25 on banker and 25 on player. But when banker wins on 6. I was like, oh sh***t. Damn.

Now, iam teaching 1 person. First day only plus 50 sgd coz we played only 4 shoes. The 2nd day, i taught about rally thing. We play flat betting using 50. Won 10 units. So won 500 sgd. I said, lets attack using house money. Increase to 75, won 10 units. So won 1250 sgd total. After dat, we went outside. I taught about proper mm. Lock the 1k. Play with 250. 25 units per hand. Lose go home, win let it ride. Fortunately we lose the 250. Doesnt matter. The incredible thing, we use flat betting. Never put 2 units. Who says play flat cant win thousands?

This is the 3rd day for me and my student. Wish me luck.

To all bros here, win win win ]]> Baccarat core http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6834 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6834 BeatTheCasino.com Short hand Video for Baccarat Cards http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BeatTheCasinoForumswhereTheProsAre/~3/dYoAVWHDrEo/showthread.php Sat, 07 Apr 2012 04:29:55 GMT HI I made this a few years ago but it explains how we post a shoe without having to scan the entire card. It's quick and easy. ]]> Baccarat Keith Smith http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6824 http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6824