<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3125108883043889739</id><updated>2026-01-07T00:34:13.617+11:00</updated><category term="The Weiss&#39;"/><category term="occupations"/><category term="The Beringers"/><category term="famous relatives"/><category term="parish records"/><category term="The Baumgartens"/><category term="The Wickhams"/><category term="Hints and Tips"/><category term="historical newspapers"/><category term="The von Holsts"/><category term="family photos"/><category term="The Macindoes"/><category term="gravestones"/><category term="The Riches"/><category term="The 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type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Prue</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03545993243891419887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif29LqnM0dWc6cKkwx3nzZLJvawjdw1CWwz_SjSi17hel8Ojo_ABGVBZSuccl-AFfzEPS12KeVoJppaH8ZLnpfvB7kXB1khZxALNA2ErGctEm_PrqDIvkwdwZ9EticJN4/s220/IMGP5062.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>207</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3125108883043889739.post-6468540893344503810</id><published>2025-03-23T11:19:00.007+11:00</published><updated>2025-03-23T11:25:07.799+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="FamilySearch"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="FreeReg"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Wilkeys"/><title type='text'>Where was John Wilkey born?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;My 3x great grandfather John Wilkey died in August 1877 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England, aged 65. He was a tobacco pipe maker. He married Elizabeth Bath at St John the Baptist, Bedminster on 11 March 1833.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My biggest question is where John was born.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The 1841 Census has him living in Great George Street, Bristol, with his family and two other families, including his in-laws. It gives his age as 25, though the 1841 Census ages for adults are rounded to the nearest 5 or 10. It says he is from Out of County - therefore he was not born in Gloucestershire.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In 1851 the Census lists John and his family living at New Street, Bristol. His age is given as 38 and he was supposedly born in Bath, Somerset. The rest of his family are all listed as born in Bristol, Gloucestershire.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The 1861 Census has John, his wife Elizabeth, son John, and grandson James living in Prospect Place, Bristol. John is aged 48, and his birthplace is given as Bath, Somerset.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The 1871 Census has John and his wife Elizabeth living together, gives John&#39;s age as 58, and once again his birthplace is listed as Bath, Somerset.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One would think this is all pretty compelling evidence that John Wilkey was born in Bath, Somerset in about 1813. Unfortunately, I cannot find any record for a John Wilkey born around 1813 in Bath.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Searching using FreeReg, I widened the search to the whole of Somerset, in 1813, which produced one record - a baptism for John Wilkey in 1813 in Taunton, Somerset, to Joseph and Susanna Wilkey. Widening the search further, for Somerset between 1810 to 1815 found three baptism records, John Wilkey (as above), William Wilkey, in 1811 in Wilton (part of Taunton), who was John&#39;s brother, and Mary Wilkey, in 1814, to William and Diana Wilkey, in Templecombe. The distance as the crow flies from Bath to Taunton is about 65km, and from Bath to Templecombe is about 40km - neither place being particularly close to Bath.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For good measure, I searched &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; counties in England on FreeReg between 1810 and 1815 for Wilkey baptisms. This produced eight records, from Devon, Somerset and Cornwall. The only&lt;i&gt; John&lt;/i&gt; Wilkey was the one from Taunton, Somerset in 1813.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I changed the setting to names that might sound like John Wilkey and it produced the following:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; margin=&quot;auto&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; color: black; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(76, 76, 76) rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 12px; padding: 4px; width: 104px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #262626; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Name&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(76, 76, 76) rgb(118, 113, 108); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 12px; padding: 4px; width: 57px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #262626; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Baptism&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(76, 76, 76); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 12px; padding: 4px; width: 89px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #262626; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Place&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 104px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #262626; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;John WALLIS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 57px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;20 Feb 1813&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 89px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;Frome&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 104px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #262626; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;John WELCH&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 57px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;18 Apr 1813&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 89px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;Kilmington&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 104px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #262626; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;John WELLS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 57px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;12 Jun 1813&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 89px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;Shepton Mallet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 104px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #262626; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;John WILLS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 57px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;27 Jun 1813&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 89px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;West Chinnock&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 104px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #262626; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;John WILKEY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(128, 128, 128) rgb(118, 113, 108); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 57px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;25 Dec 1813&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-color: rgb(128, 128, 128); border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; height: 11px; padding: 4px; width: 89px;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Helvetica Neue; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 10px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;Taunton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fact that there is only one John Wilkey makes me choose him as the most likely option.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I realise that FreeReg doesn&#39;t have a comprehensive record of all parish record baptisms in England, so I searched FamilySearch for a John Wilkey baptised in 1813 in England. Once again, the &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; John Wilkey baptised in 1813 in the whole of England in their records was the one baptised in Taunton to Joseph and Susanna Wilkey.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So we could assume from all this that our John Wilkey was born in Taunton, baptised at Taunton St James on 25 December 1813, born to parents Joseph and Susanna Wilkey. However, there is still the chance that our John Wilkey&#39;s baptism hasn&#39;t yet been transcribed, or even that he was never baptised, hence no record of his baptism in Bath. I haven&#39;t found any evidence of a Wilkey family living in Bath at that time, but that doesn&#39;t mean there wasn&#39;t one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For now, though I have decided to assume that our John Wilkey was born in Taunton to Joseph and Susanna Wilkey, and will continue to wonder whether it is actually correct or not. I guess the only way to definitely know might be through DNA, which so far, I haven&#39;t delved into.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And then, of course, we wonder what made John Wilkey move to Bristol and settle there...&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/feeds/6468540893344503810/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2025/03/the-pipe-maker-wilkeys-of-bristol.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/6468540893344503810'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/6468540893344503810'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2025/03/the-pipe-maker-wilkeys-of-bristol.html' title='Where was John Wilkey born?'/><author><name>Prue</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03545993243891419887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif29LqnM0dWc6cKkwx3nzZLJvawjdw1CWwz_SjSi17hel8Ojo_ABGVBZSuccl-AFfzEPS12KeVoJppaH8ZLnpfvB7kXB1khZxALNA2ErGctEm_PrqDIvkwdwZ9EticJN4/s220/IMGP5062.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3125108883043889739.post-7035200279304005228</id><published>2025-02-01T20:07:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2025-02-02T15:47:10.366+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="German family history"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Mondientz family"/><title type='text'>The life of Adolph Mondientz</title><content type='html'>I’ve done some further research on the Mondientz family recently, and thought I’d do an update on Adolph Mondientz, my 3x great grandfather. I&#39;ve cited all sources for the information I&#39;ve found.&lt;br /&gt;
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I managed to find a birthdate for him - he was born on 27 May 1820, in Hamburg&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;, to Johann Ludwig Mondientz and his wife Anna Catharina née Kuntzmann. He appears to have been the eldest child in a family of at least seven children. Adolph’s father was the &lt;i&gt;Markt Vogt&lt;/i&gt; (Market Bailiff) of the Neustadt in Hamburg.&lt;br /&gt;
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In January 1842 Adolph was conscripted for military service in the Hamburg Citizen Militia&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. The term of service was 3 years, but after training, if it was peacetime, they were given 11 months leave per year, and had compulsory weapons training for the remaining month. It is likely that Adolph would have been required to assist during the great fire of Hamburg in May 1842, assuming he had finished his training.&lt;br /&gt;
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The next we hear of Adolph was in December 1843, aged 23, when he fathered a daughter (Emma Auguste Bertha) to Auguste Borsch&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. Baby Emma was baptised in St Jacobi church, Magdeburg, on 1 January 1844. Adolph was named in the baptism record as the father, but it is unknown whether Adolph was ever in Magdeburg or whether the baby was conceived there. There is no evidence that Adolph and Auguste ever married, and Auguste and Emma remained in Magdeburg, while Adolph continued his life without them. Did he even know of the existence of his first child? Further research has revealed that Auguste apparently moved to Berlin with Emma, and married and had further children with another man.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since there wasn’t really a family business for Adolph to follow his father into, Adolph ended up working as a &lt;i&gt;Dekorations Maler &lt;/i&gt;(decorative painter) in theatre productions. He also worked as an &lt;i&gt;Inspicient&lt;/i&gt; (stage manager), and sometimes acted in productions as well. Whether the work in this field was not terribly steady, or Adolph had itchy feet, he moved around a lot, mostly in towns and cities close to the Rhine River, from what is now north-western Germany down to the Frankfurt area.&lt;br /&gt;
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On 11 June 1844, the mother of Adolph’s future children, Charlotte Eufemia Arnoldine Völker gave birth to her first child, Gottlieb Völker&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;, in her home town of Cleve. Unfortunately one half of the page of the parish record for Gottlieb’s birth is not available on FamilySearch, so I don’t know whether there is any father listed for Gottlieb’s birth. There is no evidence that Adolph was in Cleve at this time, therefore we must assume that Gottlieb’s father was not Adolph. However, once he arrived in Cleve (late 1847/early 1848?) and partnered up with Charlotte, he apparently took on Gottlieb as his own.&lt;br /&gt;
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Adolph first appears in the theatre almanacs for the year 1845, when he was 25 years old, once he had finished his military service. He worked as the &lt;i&gt;Inspicient&lt;/i&gt; (stage manager) and &lt;i&gt;Decorateur&lt;/i&gt; (decorator), at the Osnabrück Theatre, as well as performing in various acting roles when required&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. 1846 saw him working at the Hanau and Offenbach United Theatre as stage manager&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. In the 1847 season, Adolph was the decorative painter and theatre master in Mülheim an der Ruhr&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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By 1848 Adolph had arrived in Cleve, apparently shacked up with Charlotte Volker, and she’d given birth to their first child, Adolphine Franciska, on 22 September&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. Adolphine was baptised on 10 October 1848 at the Evangelical church in Cleve. The baptismal record states that her parents were resident in Cleve, and she was the second child (after Gottlieb?) and first daughter of her parents. I have not managed to locate a marriage record for Adolph and Charlotte, and it is possible they never officially married and were able to get away with it because they moved so often.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1848 Adolph applied to have his Hamburg citizenship dismissed. I’m not totally sure what actual benefits (or negatives) there were for Adolph, being a citizen of a city that he no longer lived in. Did it mean he had to pay tax there? He’d already completed his military service, so he wasn’t trying to get out of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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28 December 1849 Johann Ludwig born in Iserlohn, baptised 12 Jan 1850&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. He died in Bonn, where the family were living, on 6 July 1856 when he was six and a half years old&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1851 an interesting “Explanation” was published in the &lt;i&gt;Bonner Zeitung&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;, whereby Adolph Mondientz gave a grovelling apology to Herr Director Wilhelm Löwe (at the time the director of the Köln Theatre), with whom he had apparently been in dispute. I’m not sure how exactly they intersected as Löwe was only at the Theatre in Köln for the 1850-1851 season (apparently his time there was not successful) and Adolph is not listed in the 1850 theatre directory. According to the “Explanation” it seems that Adolph had been using Löwe’s name to obtain work in private homes, possibly in Bonn, and Löwe appeared to have a very low opinion of Adolph’s decorative painter abilities. So from this we might deduce that Adolph had been working as a decorative painter in a residential setting, as opposed to in a theatrical setting, during this period.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later in the year the Mondientz family moved on to Elberfeld, where he worked as a performed at the Elberfeld Theatre. On 19 September 1851 daughter Emma Johanna was born in Elberfeld&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;12&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1852, the Deutscher Bühnen-Almanach listed both Herr and Frau Mondientz as &lt;i&gt;Abgegangen&lt;/i&gt; (departed) from the Aachen Theatre&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;13&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. However, an advertisement for the Aachen Theatre in the &lt;i&gt;Echo der Gegenwart&lt;/i&gt; expressly notes that the set decoration for a performance of Under der Erde was painted by decorative painter Herr Mondientz&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;14&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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After that, Adolph didn’t work in the theatre for a few years. Did the situation with Herr Director Löwe have a big impact on his work? The family seems to have settled in Köln during this time, and son Georg Friedrich was born there on 14 October 1853&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;15&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. The family was listed in the 1854 Köln Adress-Buch as living at Kleiner Griechenmarkt 70, and Adolph was working as a painter (&lt;i&gt;Maler&lt;/i&gt;). The family was listed in 1855 as living in Catherinengr. 30, and Adolph as a decorative painter.&lt;br /&gt;
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By the 1855 theatre season, Adolph was back, working as a performer in the Cleve and Arnheim Theatre&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;16&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;, presumably while visiting his wife’s family in Cleve. The family only stayed up north in Cleve for one season, and then moved back south to Coblenz, where Adolph was the stage manager at the Coblenz Theatre for the next theatre season&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. It would seem that during their travels south, sadly their son Johann Ludwig died in Bonn, on 6 July 1856, aged six and a half&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;18&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time around 1856, daughter Sophie Friederike Wilhelmine was born. I have not found a birth record for her, however, this vague date of birth is calculated from her age of 33 when she died in January 1889&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;19&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Adolph is not listed in any theatre almanacs in 1857, so we can only assume he was working privately. On 9 October that year, daughter Caroline Mathilde was born In Coblenz. Once again, I have not found a birth record for her, this information instead coming from her marriage record&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;20&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Adolph was working at the Offenbach Theatre as the stage manager in 1858&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;21&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. Adolph’s world changed when Charlotte died in Bockenheim on 28 September 1858. Adolph put a notice in the Kölnische Zeitung advising relatives and friends of her death after a long period of suffering, from pulmonary tuberculosis&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;22&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. The notice said he and their six underage children mourned the passing of his dearly beloved wife. In October, not even a month later, a benefit concert was held for Adolph in Bockenheim, where they were living&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;23&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. In December another benefit performance was held for Adolph in Giessen&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;24&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;, as he had moved on to Offenbach Theatre for work (which was also linked with the theatres in Gießen and Marburg)&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;25&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. Clearly, despite struggling to care for his six children, the show had to go on for Adolph. The eldest child, Gottlieb, was only 14 at the time of his mother’s death - was he sent out to work to help make ends meet? One assumes Fanny (Adolphine Franziska), aged 10, was put in charge of looking after the younger children, including Sophie and Caroline, who were both still infants.&lt;br /&gt;
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Adolph moved on to Düsseldorf next, where he worked at the Düsseldorf Theatre from 1859-1861. Some theatre posters for the time have survived, and show that as well as Adolph being involved, his daughters Fanny and Emma sometimes performed when child roles were required. What better way to mind your kids while working, than to have them there with you, involved as well! As well as his own children, there was also a “Marie Mondientz” who was a child actor in a couple of productions. I have written about her &lt;a href=&quot;https://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2025/01/who-was-marie-mondientz.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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It would seem that the children’s maternal extended family were concerned about Adolph’s ability to provide for his children as well. According to an auction notice in the Clevisches Volksblatt&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;26&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;, they (Charlotte’s sister, brother-in-law and brother) brought some sort of legal case against Adolph in his capacity as father and guardian of his underage children, and as a result handed down in the regional court in Cleve on October 19, 1861, there were four properties put up for auction. Its not clear to me exactly what was going on here, but I can only assume that the money from the sale of the properties was going to be used for the care of the children.&lt;br /&gt;
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From some time in 1861, Adolph moved his family to Krefeld, in order to work at the theatre there. Fanny and Emma continued to act in productions when child roles were called for. By 1865, Adolph appeared to have found someone to help him look after his family, as a woman named Anna Catharina Geurts gave birth to his child, Louise Emily, on December 10&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;27&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. Did they marry? I have found no record of this. I do not know what became of Louise, or her mother.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is unknown where or when Adolph Mondientz died. According to his daughter Caroline Mathilde’s marriage record in 1880, he lived in Siegburg, working as a decorative painter, but I don’t know if this was his current residence at the time or where he lived when he died. I suspect it may have been his current residence in 1880, because it does note that her &lt;i&gt;late&lt;/i&gt; mother’s last residence was Bockenheim (&lt;i&gt;zuletzt wohnhaft zu Bockenheim&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;28&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;. I have found someone’s genealogy records online that suggest Adolph died in Siegburg in 1862, but he was definitely alive after 1862, working and fathering a child!&lt;br /&gt;
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I get the impression that Adolph was perhaps the black sheep of his family, choosing an unusual career path for the day. I wonder if he ever returned to Hamburg once he left to strike out on his own? I think he was a generous person, and felt things deeply. He may have been a bit of a player (children to three different women, none of whom he was known to have married), but I believe he was loyal to those he cared about. He took on a child who was not his own, and was heartbroken by the death of his wife Charlotte. He transported a gaggle of children around with him, even after Charlotte died. He may not have lived the most orthodox existence for his time, but I think his character was generally good.&lt;br /&gt;
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I do wonder for his children though - the only one I know anything about was his daughter Caroline Matilda, my great great grandmother. She married into a Catholic family, even though she was Lutheran, they emigrated to Australia, had a good number of children, and then she committed suicide when she was 38 years old. I believe, had he known of this, Adolph would have been greatly distressed. However, I do think he would have been extremely proud of his grandson George, Caroline’s son, who was a silent movie actor known as George Beranger.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;Hamburg.de, Bestand 332-2, Generalregister 1816-1866. The register doesn’t have any details of the birth/baptism, just details of where to find the record. I haven’t been able to access any actual records for the correct parish in Hamburg at this time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Hamburger Nachrichten, 21 January 1845, page 5.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;Ancestry, Saxony, Anhalt, Anhalt-Bernburg, Anhalt-Dessau and Anhalt-Köthen, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1760-1890. Auguste’s full name was Louise Sophie Auguste Borsch.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;4.&amp;nbsp;FamilySearch Film 8210290, page 22, lefthand side not photographed, righthand side: image 369.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;5.&amp;nbsp;Almanach für Freunde der Schauspielkunst 1846, Berlin, p247.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;6.&amp;nbsp;Almanach für Freunde der Schauspielkunst 1847, Berlin, p163.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;7.&amp;nbsp;Almanach für Freunde der Schauspielkunst 1848, Berlin, p248.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;8.&amp;nbsp;FamilySearch Film 8210290, page 43, lefthand side: image 497, righthand side: image 390.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;9.&amp;nbsp;Archion, Iserlohn Oberste Stadtgemeinde, Taufen für 1849-1857, Band 14, image 21.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;10.&amp;nbsp;Bonner Zeitung, 13 July 1856, p6.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;11.&amp;nbsp;Bonner Zeitung, 19 April 1851, p4.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;12.&amp;nbsp;FamilySearch Film 108257378, image 402.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;13.&amp;nbsp;Deutscher Bühnen-Almanach, 1853, Berlin, p34.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;14.&amp;nbsp;Echo der Gegenwart, 18 December 1852, p4.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;15.&amp;nbsp;Kölnische Zeitung, 19 October 1853, p4. In “Civilstand der Stadt Köln, Geburten”. The name given in the notice was Friedrich.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;16.&amp;nbsp;Deutscher Bühnen-Almanach, 1856, Berlin, p427.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;17.&amp;nbsp;Deutscher Bühnen-Almanach, 1857, Berlin, p408.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;18.&amp;nbsp;Bonner Zeitung, 13 July 1856, p6.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;19.&amp;nbsp;Düsseldorfer Volksblatt, 25 January 1889, p4.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;20.&amp;nbsp;Ancestry, Hesse, Germany Marriages 1849-1930, p314, no.1014.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;21.&amp;nbsp;Deutscher Bühnen-Almanach, 1858, Berlin, p302.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;22.&amp;nbsp;Kölnische Zeitung, 2 October 1858, p4.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;23.&amp;nbsp;IntelligenzBlatt der Freien Stadt Frankfurt, 2te Beilage, No 250, 22 October 1858.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;24.&amp;nbsp;Anzeigeblatt für die Provinzialhauptstadt Gießen: Amtsblatt des Kreises Gießen, 29 December 1858, p4.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;25.&amp;nbsp;Deutscher Bühnen-Almanach, 1859, Berlin, p153.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;26.&amp;nbsp;Clevisches Volksblatt, 28 December 1861, p3.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;27.&amp;nbsp;Ancestry, Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898, Film 996110.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: helvetica; font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;28.&amp;nbsp;Ancestry, Hesse, Germany Marriages 1849-1930, page 314, record no. 1014.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/feeds/7035200279304005228/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2025/02/the-life-of-adolph-mondientz.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/7035200279304005228'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/7035200279304005228'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2025/02/the-life-of-adolph-mondientz.html' title='The life of Adolph Mondientz'/><author><name>Prue</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03545993243891419887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif29LqnM0dWc6cKkwx3nzZLJvawjdw1CWwz_SjSi17hel8Ojo_ABGVBZSuccl-AFfzEPS12KeVoJppaH8ZLnpfvB7kXB1khZxALNA2ErGctEm_PrqDIvkwdwZ9EticJN4/s220/IMGP5062.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3125108883043889739.post-7956891065862933984</id><published>2025-01-31T16:03:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2025-01-31T16:05:42.265+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="German family history"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Mondientz family"/><title type='text'>Who was Marie Mondientz?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;I&#39;ve recently been doing more research on the Mondientz family, particularly Adolph Mondientz and his career in theatre.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have found that Heinrich Heine Universität Düsseldorf has, in their digital collections, some theatre posters for the Stadt Theatre in Düsseldorf for the years 1860 and 1861. Amongst these are a number which reference members of the Mondientz family, namely Adolph Mondientz, Emma Mondientz, F. Mondientz, and Marie Mondientz.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Adolph Mondientz is listed for all the acting roles he performed in many different plays, his daughters Emma and F (who would be Franciska) play child roles in a few of the plays, and then we have Marie. I can&#39;t work out who she is in the family because Adolph did not have any children with Marie in their name. She is only in one of the plays that have posters in the digital collection: &lt;i&gt;Die Waise aus Lowood &lt;/i&gt;(Jane Eyre) where she performs in two productions, as Adele; the character being a young child of about 9 years old. So she must have been a child, but whose?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I suspect she might have been a cousin of Adolph&#39;s children, either a daughter of one of his brothers, or of one of his sisters, out of wedlock (hence the surname Mondientz), though I haven&#39;t found anyone that fits the bill yet. I haven&#39;t managed to find any birth record--or anything else, for that matter--for a Marie Mondientz at this stage either, so we are left to wonder.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/feeds/7956891065862933984/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2025/01/who-was-marie-mondientz.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/7956891065862933984'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/7956891065862933984'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2025/01/who-was-marie-mondientz.html' title='Who was Marie Mondientz?'/><author><name>Prue</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03545993243891419887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif29LqnM0dWc6cKkwx3nzZLJvawjdw1CWwz_SjSi17hel8Ojo_ABGVBZSuccl-AFfzEPS12KeVoJppaH8ZLnpfvB7kXB1khZxALNA2ErGctEm_PrqDIvkwdwZ9EticJN4/s220/IMGP5062.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3125108883043889739.post-6704213263286118537</id><published>2023-01-31T14:29:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2023-01-31T15:40:27.881+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Archion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="FamilySearch"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="German family history"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Google books"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Baumgartens"/><title type='text'>Samuel Baumgarten’s parents</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;I have been struggling to learn more about Samuel Christian Friedrich Baumgarten’s parents for quite some time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My research suggested that his father was a Cantor in Usingen, and that his name was Johann Nicolaus Friedrich Baumgarten. I had no information at all on his mother - not even her name. I guessed that they were Lutherans rather than Catholics, based on their son Samuel getting married in a Church of England parish when he was in England. It’s not a foolproof assumption, but sometimes you just have to make a guess in order to move your research forward!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Having trawled Google Books (which is often more useful for historical records, turning up information that you won’t necessarily find in a normal Google search) for references to a Cantor called “Baumgarten” in Usingen, I had found a few, most of which I realised actually referred to Johann Nicolaus Friedrich’s son, Johann Friedrich, who was a cantor in Usingen after his father died. One potentially useful search result showed a book only available with snippet view, which referenced a Nicolaus Baumgarten, who apparently was the Cantor (and a stocking maker) in Usingen, was from Sachsen, and died in 1754, and his son Johann Nicolaus Friedrich Baumgarten (Bonnet, 1965). Being a snippet view, I was unable to see the actual section on the son, and I’ve not been able to track down a hardcopy of the book to read it. I assumed that Nicolaus Baumgarten was Samuel’s grandfather, and Johann Nicolaus Friedrich Baumgarten was his father.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUKBjxRVv76dWuYCFN0DEd_3aT9GyDebpLnoyDCXNf3nVKuONAjkH6mzZYbWMJwjmkV0feU-zBghLYDWUy21qn6l3tJEbfER4XpNYVA0L3iVMWjiHwgijg6eR23hZjfWDRb-_OW8y5XwgpIw-fzI4jBAGxwOK6P6vfuhKScP2QFLuu1N_NsCjn3irk_w/s828/D037A57B-68B4-4375-A266-DCCA3BBF62E5.jpeg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;258&quot; data-original-width=&quot;828&quot; height=&quot;99&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUKBjxRVv76dWuYCFN0DEd_3aT9GyDebpLnoyDCXNf3nVKuONAjkH6mzZYbWMJwjmkV0feU-zBghLYDWUy21qn6l3tJEbfER4XpNYVA0L3iVMWjiHwgijg6eR23hZjfWDRb-_OW8y5XwgpIw-fzI4jBAGxwOK6P6vfuhKScP2QFLuu1N_NsCjn3irk_w/w318-h99/D037A57B-68B4-4375-A266-DCCA3BBF62E5.jpeg&quot; title=&quot;Snippet view of “Die Lehrer des Kreises Usingen”&quot; width=&quot;318&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Snippet from “Die Lehrer des Kreises Usingen”&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I hoped that if I managed to access the relevant parish records for Usingen I might be able locate Nicolaus Baumgarten’s death/burial record in 1754, and might be able to find out a little more information on him.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;FamilySearch did not have any records that matched this particular event, so I searched in their catalogue to see if there were parish records available for Usingen for that time period. I had already accessed the church records for the period of Samuel’s baptism and many of his siblings, though it did mean reading through many many German language records, mostly in a different script to that which is used today. FamilySearch &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; have the records, &lt;i&gt;but&lt;/i&gt; they weren’t available to access online. I sent a record query to them, and it came back with the answer that (for whatever reason) those records had restricted access. I booked an online consultation with a FamilySearch German family history expert to see what could be done about that. He gave me the bad news that my only options would be to either visit the FamilySearch headquarters in Salt Lake City (not a feasible option for me) or engage an expert there to do the research for me. He did also suggest I check out &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.archion.de/en/&quot;&gt;Archion&lt;/a&gt;, a paid online search engine for German church records. Being the sort of person who likes to do research, rather than employ someone to do it for me, I decided a month of access to Archion was the best option for me, once I had checked they actually did have the records for the Lutheran church in Usingen.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I was extremely disappointed that there was no record of a death/burial for any Baumgartens in Usingen in 1754. I began to suspect that the information in Bonnet (1965) about the Baumgartens wasn’t completely accurate. Having bought a month’s worth of Access I decided I had nothing to lose searching through the Usingen church records for any reference to Baumgartens - it wasn’t a common name in the parish, seemingly only for Samuel Baumgarten’s relatives.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In June 1758 I found a death record that named the parish cantor, Nicolaus Baumgarten, and also referred to “Ana Martha”. It took me quite some time to make sense of the script (it should have been law that all scribes must have possessed exceptionally neat handwriting) but eventually I managed to work out that it was the death/burial record for Nicolaus Baumgarten’s wife Ana Martha. It is possible that her maiden name was Schwein, though the word isn’t written very clearly. It was also recorded that she was from Kirchhain, Hesse-Cassel, and she was 67 years, 2 months and 8 days old when she died, on June 27th. This allowed me to work out her date of birth - 19 April 1691.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Further searching revealed another death/burial record referring to Johann Nicolaus Baumgarten, Cantor, in November 1758. Because, as cantor, he was a reasonably important person with the parish, there was quite a bit of information recorded about him, all written in the same slightly illegible handwriting as his wife’s record. Patient deciphering revealed that Samuel Baumgarten’s father was 74 years, 1 month and 6 days old when he died on 13 November 1758 (allowing me to work out his birthdate - 7 Oct 1684) and had been at Kirchhain, serving as conrector, before the growing family moved to Usingen. He was cantor for the Usingen parish for 35 years, until he died. Much of the rest I haven’t yet been able to decipher.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So I now have much more info on Samuel Baumgarten’s parents, Johann Nicolaus Baumgarten and Ana Martha Schwein(?). Since I haven’t been able to read Bonnet (1965) I don’t know what his source material was for the information he published about the Baumgartens, but I do think it needs a few corrections. I also think it is possible that the Nicolaus Baumgarten referred to by Bonnet is actually Samuel’s father (based on the close-ish to accurate year of death), and the Johann Nicolaus Friedrich Baumgarten, son of Nicolaus, is actually Samuel’s brother Johann Friedrich - I’ve never seen any historical record with “Nicolaus” in his name though. As for Samuel’s father, I’ve not found any other reference to him being a stocking manufacturer, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;And now I have to do some research in the parish records of Kirchhain!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bonnet, R. (1965). &lt;i&gt;Die Lehrer des Kreises Usingen. &lt;/i&gt;Germany: Degener.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/feeds/6704213263286118537/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2023/01/samuel-baumgartens-parents.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/6704213263286118537'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/6704213263286118537'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2023/01/samuel-baumgartens-parents.html' title='Samuel Baumgarten’s parents'/><author><name>Prue</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03545993243891419887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif29LqnM0dWc6cKkwx3nzZLJvawjdw1CWwz_SjSi17hel8Ojo_ABGVBZSuccl-AFfzEPS12KeVoJppaH8ZLnpfvB7kXB1khZxALNA2ErGctEm_PrqDIvkwdwZ9EticJN4/s220/IMGP5062.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUKBjxRVv76dWuYCFN0DEd_3aT9GyDebpLnoyDCXNf3nVKuONAjkH6mzZYbWMJwjmkV0feU-zBghLYDWUy21qn6l3tJEbfER4XpNYVA0L3iVMWjiHwgijg6eR23hZjfWDRb-_OW8y5XwgpIw-fzI4jBAGxwOK6P6vfuhKScP2QFLuu1N_NsCjn3irk_w/s72-w318-h99-c/D037A57B-68B4-4375-A266-DCCA3BBF62E5.jpeg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3125108883043889739.post-1621165818807733181</id><published>2022-10-28T10:41:00.005+11:00</published><updated>2025-02-01T17:29:48.848+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="German family history"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Baumgartens"/><title type='text'>The Baumgartens of Usingen</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;It’s been so long since I last did some family history research worth writing up, but with the passage of time, I thought it might be worth a look on FamilySearch to see if they had any new films online worth trawling through. Bingo!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I’ve suspected for a while that Samuel Christian Frederick Baumgarten, my 5x great grandfather, was related to a Baumgarten and his son whom I had found references to working as cantors (church choir leader) in Usingen, Germany. A number of things lead me to believe this, including family members named in wills, and various snippets from historical newspapers etc.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I strongly suspected that Samuel’s father was one of the cantors in Usingen, but I had yet to find evidence. I found it today!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I believed that Samuel had siblings named Leopold Christian, Juliana Ernestina, John Henry (anglicised, presumably Johann Heinrich), Frederick, Gertrude, Magdalen and Frances. Today I found references to all of them, bar John Henry, in church records from Usingen, including Samuel’s birth record, which I believe has never been identified before. I now have the name of Samuel’s father, Johann Nicolaus Baumgarten, though disappointingly, Johann’s wife, the mother of his children, was not named specifically.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;In the Usingen birth records (1685-1734) I have found the following records for the children of Johann Nicolaus Baumgarten:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Samuel Christian Friedrich, born 31 January 1725, son of Johann Nicolaus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Christian Leopold, born 10 April 1727, son of Johann Nicolaus, &lt;i&gt;Stadt Cantor &lt;/i&gt;(city cantor)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Johann Friedrich, born 1 April 1729, son of Johann Niclas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Juliana Ernestina, born 22 April 1732, daughter of &lt;i&gt;Cantor zu Usingen&lt;/i&gt; (cantor to Usingen)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Francisca Dorothea, born 31 March 1734, daughter of &lt;i&gt;Herrn Cantor.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The birth records for 1735 onwards are not currently available online in any form, so I’ll have to see if I can get access to the film of them at some stage. I suspect John Henry was born after 1734.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;As well as these births, I found a record of the confirmations of both Anna Gertraud Baumgarten and Anna Magdalena Baumgarten in 1730 in Usingen, suggesting to me that they are the eldest children in the Baumgarten family, the only ones who had reached the age of confirmation (traditionally around the age of 14 in the Lutheran Church) during this period of records.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I searched for a marriage record for Johann Nicolaus and his wife, but there was none in Usingen between 1685 and 1734. I deduce from this that they were married elsewhere (where?), and arrived in Usingen within a year or two of Samuel’s birth, the first Baumgarten birth recorded in the parish.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;So there we are. I can confirm for the first time ever that Samuel Christian Frederick Baumgarten, bassoonist of London, England, was born in the town of Usingen, in the principality of Nassau-Usingen (today in the state of Hessen in Germany) on 31 January 1725.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/feeds/1621165818807733181/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2022/10/the-baumgartens-of-usingen.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/1621165818807733181'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/1621165818807733181'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2022/10/the-baumgartens-of-usingen.html' title='The Baumgartens of Usingen'/><author><name>Prue</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03545993243891419887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif29LqnM0dWc6cKkwx3nzZLJvawjdw1CWwz_SjSi17hel8Ojo_ABGVBZSuccl-AFfzEPS12KeVoJppaH8ZLnpfvB7kXB1khZxALNA2ErGctEm_PrqDIvkwdwZ9EticJN4/s220/IMGP5062.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3125108883043889739.post-1402613314104819566</id><published>2016-12-30T21:08:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2016-12-30T21:08:56.988+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="famous relatives"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="historical newspapers"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Weiss&#39;"/><title type='text'>Aachen and Charles Nicholas Weiss</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; trbidi=&quot;on&quot;&gt;
We went away for a few days up north, to Aachen. I didn&#39;t know really anything about the place before we visited, but learnt that it is known for its links with Charlemagne, and has a &lt;i&gt;beautiful&lt;/i&gt; cathedral.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;
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We were buying tickets to see the Cathedral Treasury when I saw something that stopped me dead in my tracks. The name of Aachen was written on some signage in different local languages, the French rendering being &lt;i&gt;Aix-la-Chapelle&lt;/i&gt;. And I remembered this from Sainsbury (1824, p503):&lt;/div&gt;
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Charles Nicholas Weiss had been on tour to Aix-la-Chapelle in 1821! This anecdote is a direct quote from a letter that Weiss sent to Sainsbury, for inclusion in his book. I love the bit &quot;His name was not unknown to the officers&quot; - seems like a humble brag to me!&lt;/div&gt;
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During our short holiday in Aachen I managed to get some time to go to the &lt;i&gt;Stadtbibliothek&lt;/i&gt; (city library) and spent an hour and a half skimming through the &lt;i&gt;Aachener Zeitung &lt;/i&gt;(a newspaper of the day) for 1821, looking for anything about a concert Weiss might have performed there. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to do a very thorough job, but amongst the news from around Europe and advertisements for horses or houses for sale and the like, I didn&#39;t find anything. But at least I tried.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Sainsbury, J.S. (1824). &lt;i&gt;A Dictionary of Musicians.&lt;/i&gt; Sainsbury and Co, London.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Four years ago, whilst trawling through old newspaper advertisements, researching Willoughby Gaspard Weiss, I found an advertisement that referenced some waltzes by an A.S. Weiss. There is no one in my family tree who has those initials, so I was stumped. I filed the information away in a corner of my brain, ready for another day when I might uncover who A.S. Weiss was.&lt;br /&gt;
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This advertisement was placed by Willoughby Gaspard Weiss in &lt;i&gt;The Liverpool Mercury&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;on 14 February 1843. It gives details of new music that he has available at his music saloon in Liverpool England, including &quot;a set of beautiful waltzes, by A.S. Weiss of Mulhausen&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yesterday I was researching Willoughby&#39;s youngest sister, Rosine Angélique Weiss, who was born and lived in Mulhouse. Apparently Rosine usually went by her middle name - she certainly seemed to prefer Angélique to Rosine - both her daughters had Angélique in their name - one as a first name, the other as a middle name, and she gave the name Rosine to neither. She married Jean Georges Schmaltzer in 1826, and it appears that at least in business, after his marriage, he often used the surname Schmaltzer-Weiss. This is not the first time I have seen a husband&#39;s surname tacked onto the surname Weiss - it appears to be a surname you would have wanted to be associated with in Mulhouse.&lt;br /&gt;
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Putting this all together, it is possible that Rosine might have used the name of A. S. Weiss - Angélique Schmaltzer-Weiss... being born into the Weiss family there is every chance she also inherited the musical talents of her father and other Weiss relatives. Did she compose music? Surely a brother (Willoughby) might sell waltzes that you had written, capitalising on the surname Weiss (rather than Schmaltzer-Weiss), especially a brother who liked you enough to name one of his own daughters after you...&lt;br /&gt;
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I have no concrete evidence that A.S. Weiss was actually Rosine, but there is a chance, and currently this is my best guess as to who A.S. Weiss was.&lt;/div&gt;
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For the past week or so I have been down a figurative rabbit hole, trying to prove that Henry Wise (1653-1738), royal gardener to Queen Anne, was the father of Jane Wise (?-1740), who married Bartholomew Peisley (1683-1727) stone mason of Oxford. I haven&#39;t managed to do it, and have thus concluded that without concrete evidence to prove it, Jane&#39;s father was &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; Henry Wise.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did I leap to that conclusion in the first place? Circumstantial evidence - he&#39;s the right-ish sort of age to possibly be her father, he worked at Blenheim Palace, as did Bartholomew (and also his father Bartholomew as well), plus Jane and Bartholomew had a daughter named Patience - the same name as Henry&#39;s wife.&lt;br /&gt;
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I researched the names of Henry and Patience Wise&#39;s children, and found details of eight of a possible twelve children. None called Jane, and perhaps tellingly, none who named any of their children Jane, after a possible aunt. I read wills of family members, including distant relations, and none clearly referred to a Jane as a daughter of Henry and Patience. Both Henry and Patience&#39;s wills named all their living children, and grandchildren, none of which included Jane or any of her children. I delved into all the parish records I could, all the historical records regarding the family that I could find, particularly focusing on records of the day, but there was nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
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And yet, there is still the possibility Jane Wise is related to the family of Henry Wise, though I have concluded it is more likely that she is a niece of Henry&#39;s. To explain why I think this, I will set out all the information I know about Jane.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is not known when or where Jane Wise was born. She married Bartholomew Peisley in 1717, on a date soon after 2 October, when their marriage license was issued in the Diocese of Canterbury. The location of the marriage is unknown, however the marriage is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; recorded in the parish records for St Michael&#39;s at the North Gate, Oxford (LDS British film 416724), where some of their children were baptised and some were buried. In the table of information for their known children below, dates in italics are inferred dates, and note too that spelling in the parish records is variable.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;Date of birth&lt;/th&gt;
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&lt;th&gt;Parish record entry&lt;/th&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;~1717-1718&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;1718&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Bartholomew &lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial: 1718, July 3, Bartholomew Peizly, jnr. in ye church&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;~1717-1719&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Apr 1719&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Thomas&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial: 1719, April 8, Thomas, son of Bartholomew Peizley, in ye church&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;1721&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;unknown&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Patience&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism: 1721, June 3, Petience d. of Mr Bartholomew Peisley a stone cutter and Jean his wife&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;1722&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;1781&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Bartholomew &lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism: 1722, June 10, Bartholomew s. of Mr Bartholomew Piesley, stone cutter and Jane his wife&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;1724&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;unknown&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Richard&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism: 1724, April 27, Richard son of Bartholomew Peisley, stone cutter and Jean his wife&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;~1727&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;1727&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Sarah&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial: 1727, November 4, Sarah, dau. of Bartholomew Peisley, infant, in ye church&lt;/td&gt;
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Jane&#39;s husband Bartholomew Peisley died aged only 44, on 29 August 1727. The Oxford diarist Thomas Hearne wrote in August 1727 &quot;Yesterday died of a feavor, or rather (as I hear), of the Gout in the Stomack, after 4 or 5 days illness, Mr Peisley, a noted wealthy mason, that lived in New-Inn Hall Lane in Oxford, leaving a wife (a very pretty woman) and three Children, and his wife is big again. ... This Mr Peisly was looked upon as a very courteous well behaved man.&quot; Obviously Jane was pregnant with Sarah at the time her husband Bartholomew died, and Sarah then died in November as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Jane remarried in 1731 in Oxford, to &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Huddesford_(academic)&quot;&gt;George Huddesford&lt;/a&gt;, Hearne wrote &quot;On Thursday last, Mr Hudsford, President of Trinity Coll., was married in that College chappel to the widow Peisly (who has three children living by her former Husband, a Mason) a very pretty woman, of Oxford.&quot; Jane and George Huddesford had a son William, born in 1732.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane died in Oxford in 1740, and was buried on 2 March 1740, possibly at St Mary Magdalen&#39;s churchyard, Oxford.&lt;br /&gt;
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So why do I think she was related to the Henry Wise family?&lt;br /&gt;
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Henry Wise&#39;s will (dated 1739) mentions a niece Jane Hunsford. I can&#39;t work out who that might be, apart from Jane Huddesford, complete with spelling difference.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane&#39;s brother, Reverend Bernard Paisley (1689-1738), in his will, mentions his nephews Richard and Bartholomew Peisley (Jane&#39;s sons), and leaves an amount of money to each of them, and if they are still minors at the time of his death, in trust for them to Mathew Wise Esq and the Reverend Mr George Huddesford. George Huddesford is their stepfather, and Mathew Wise Esq happens to be the son and heir of Henry Wise. So that really &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; suggest that Jane is related in some way to the Henry Wise family, if Mathew is partially in charge of the inheritances of Jane&#39;s sons.&lt;br /&gt;
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And then there is the naming of Patience Peisley, perhaps after her maternal great aunt.&lt;br /&gt;
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I shall keep searching for links between Jane Wise/Peisley/Huddesford and the Henry Wise family, but I think I may have exhausted all current evidence available on the internet. Further research I&#39;d like to do at some stage is to visit graveyards in Oxford, and also to thoroughly scour Oxford parish records for information relating to the Peisleys and Wises.&lt;/div&gt;
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Thomas Ball, my 4x great grandfather, died on 12 January 1873, at his residence - Francis Cottage, Highgate, England. I have been unable to find a record for his burial, but I have always suspected that he might have been buried in Highgate Cemetery, mainly because of the close proximity of his home to the cemetery.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;
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The Highgate Cemetery website requests a payment of £40 to look up a burial for someone. Considering I was looking for Thomas, and also hoping that his wife Sarah might also be buried there, I wasn&#39;t about to spend £80 on just a hunch.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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There was one other option though: the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.camden.gov.uk/ccm/content/contacts/council-contacts/libraries/contact-the-camden-local-studies-&amp;amp;-archives-centre/&quot;&gt;Camden Local Studies and Archives Centre&lt;/a&gt; at the Holborn Library holds burial and grave registers for Highgate Cemetery. And you can visit a library for free! Perfect.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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The indexes to the burial registers are ordered by year, and are partially in alphabetical order - only to the first letter of the surname. And I found Thomas relatively easily, because I knew the year he died.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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The entry in the index said that Thomas&#39; burial number was 42405, his grave number was 4383, and that his place of death (abode) was Pond Square, Highgate, St Pancras.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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The following is the entry in the burial register:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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The entry in the grave register contained a lot of information, including all the other people buried in the same grave. Unfortunately, that didn&#39;t include Thomas&#39; wife Sarah. Seven people in all - mostly Thomas&#39; grandchildren, with the following comment written at the bottom &quot;This grave is quite full.&quot; I&#39;ll say.&lt;br /&gt;
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The final thing I was able to find out was the actual location of the grave in the cemetery.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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The grave register noted that the grave was in section 53 of the Old Ground. This is in the West Cemetery, which you can only access by appointment, and if you give them two weeks notice they can go and find the grave, clear access to it, and then take you to it. Perhaps one day I&#39;ll be able to organise that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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The problem with Thomas&#39; wife Sarah not being there (it would have been really convenient if she was) is that I can&#39;t actually find her death date. She must have died between the 1861 Census and the 1871 Census, but that&#39;s as much as I&#39;ve been able to narrow it down. And if she&#39;s not buried with her husband, who IS she buried with? Her parents? Her daughter? I&#39;ll have to keep looking.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;&quot;...my Will is that I may be buryed in London Church
Yard in the said County of Middlesex at the East End of the Chancell Building
in a Grave of eight ffoot in depth to lye next to the Coffin of my late dear
and beloved Wife Mary Joynes who was buried there in the beginning of September
1746 and that a Monument of Portland Stone may be set up there according to a
draught prepared by me...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So willed my 5x great grandfather &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2012/07/henry-joynes.html&quot;&gt;Henry Joynes&lt;/a&gt; (abt 1684-1754) before his death. I had the opportunity recently to visit St Mary&#39;s Churchyard Hendon, where this monument now stands. I guessed it was a reasonable sized monument and it has Grade II listed conservation status, and therefore I was hopeful that I would be able to find it. And I did!&lt;br /&gt;
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I spent some time transcribing the inscription on the monument, which actually commemorates five members of the extended Joynes family. I&#39;m glad I managed to do this, because the inscription for Henry Joynes was extremely weathered and very difficult to see - I had to use my fingers to gently trace the shape of the letters to work out what they were. And the weathering will only get worse. It had also sunk on an angle, but at least didn&#39;t look likely to topple over any time soon.&lt;br /&gt;
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The southern-facing side of the monument was dedicated to Henry Joynes himself:&lt;br /&gt;
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Near this place lyes the Body of&lt;/div&gt;
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HENRY JOYNES Esqr.&lt;/div&gt;
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He was Comptroller and Conductor&lt;/div&gt;
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of the Building of Blenheim House&lt;/div&gt;
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in Oxfordshire from 1705 to 1715.&lt;/div&gt;
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He was Surveyor of&lt;/div&gt;
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Kensington Palace and Gardens&lt;/div&gt;
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from 1715 to the last of his Days.&lt;/div&gt;
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He was Many Years Surveyor of&lt;/div&gt;
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the Sewers in Westminster.&lt;/div&gt;
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He departed this Life the 2nd Day&lt;/div&gt;
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of July 1754, Aged 70 Years.&lt;/div&gt;
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The side facing east had the most inscribed on it. In the top section was an inscription for Henry&#39;s daughter Frances:&lt;br /&gt;
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FRANCES JOYNES, Departed&lt;/div&gt;
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this Life the 3rd Day of May&lt;/div&gt;
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1749, Aged 28 Years&lt;/div&gt;
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In the lower section of the east-facing side was an inscription in honour of Henry&#39;s wife Mary, and below that, her sister Elizabeth (noted as Henry&#39;s sister, but technically his sister-in-law):&lt;br /&gt;
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Westward of this monument&lt;/div&gt;
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lyes the Body of MARY&lt;/div&gt;
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the Wife of HENRY JOYNES Esqr&lt;/div&gt;
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who Departed this Life&lt;/div&gt;
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the 29th Day of August 1746,&lt;/div&gt;
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Aged 60 Years,&lt;/div&gt;
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leaving three Sons,&lt;/div&gt;
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SAMUEL, THOMAS &amp;amp; HENRY,&lt;/div&gt;
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and two Daughters FRANCES &amp;amp; MARY.&lt;/div&gt;
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Also the Body&lt;/div&gt;
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of ELIZABETH PEISLEY, his sister,&lt;/div&gt;
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who Departed this Life&lt;/div&gt;
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the 30th Day of September 1746,&lt;/div&gt;
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Aged 63 Years.&lt;/div&gt;
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On the northern side of the monument, in the top section, was an inscription for Henry&#39;s son Thomas:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;
THOMAS JOYNES Departed&lt;/div&gt;
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this Life the 14th Day of Dec&lt;/div&gt;
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1750, Aged 28 years.&lt;/div&gt;
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This news article from the &lt;i&gt;London Evening Post&lt;/i&gt; (Dec 13-15, 1750) explains the sorry circumstances of Thomas&#39; death:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;&quot;On Thursday Night last, between Ten and Eleven o&#39;Clock, Mr. Thomas Joynes, Son of Henry Joynes, of Kensington, Esq; and Brother to Mr Joynes, of the Middle-Temple, going along the Strand, some Villains stopp&#39;d him, and took from him his Hat and Wig, then knock&#39;d him down, and robb&#39;d him of what Money he had in his Pocket. He got home to his Lodgings, went to bed, and the next Morning, the Family not hearing him stir at the usual Hour, went into his Room, and found him dead in his Bed.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
These are not the only family members buried in the churchyard at Hendon, but disappointingly, I was unable to locate the others, being &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2013/03/who-was-rich-uncle.html&quot;&gt;Samuel Joynes&lt;/a&gt;, son of Henry and Mary - &quot;Mr Joynes, of the Middle-Temple&quot; noted above, and also Mary Baumgarten née Joynes, daughter of Henry and Mary Joynes, and her husband &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2011/09/samuel-baumgarten-bassoonist.html&quot;&gt;Samuel Christian Frederick Baumgarten&lt;/a&gt;. There are many gravestones which are too weathered to read, and perhaps some of these commemorated these other ancestors.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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This is the gravestone of Amy Selina Weiss née Blanch, and Walter Herbert Weiss, her husband, in Rookwood Cemetery, Sydney. The gravestone also commemorates three of their sons - Frederick Albert Weiss and Erle Victor Weiss, who both were killed in action in World War 1, plus Harry Blanch Weiss, a POW in World War 2, who died while working on the Thai Burma Railway.&lt;/div&gt;
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I am focusing here on Frederick Albert Weiss because he died in the Battle of Fromelles, which took place 100 years ago. Fromelles is a small village in France which, in 1916, was behind German lines. On the evening of July 19 1916 Australian and British forces attacked the German forces at Fromelles. By 8am the next morning the Allied forces withdrew, after the loss or wounding of some 5500 Australian and 1500 British soldiers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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Private Frederick Albert Weiss, service number 3578A, was born at Anna Bay, NSW, in 1892, the second child and eldest son of Amy and Walter Weiss. Like his father, Fred was a school teacher - at the time of his enlistment he was an associate teacher at West Wyalong Public School, where his father was the headmaster.&lt;/div&gt;
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He joined up at age 22 and he embarked for The Front in September 1915. After spending some time in northern Africa, Fred arrived in Marseilles on 28 June 1916. He&amp;nbsp;was killed less than a month later on July 19th. An eyewitness from his battalion, Percy Dickson, stated that Fred was shot in the stomach, and then was probably blown up by the enemy&#39;s heavy shelling. They were unable to retrieve his body at the time due to the shelling. He was officially listed as missing in action on July 28, and this was updated to killed in action on September 2, 1917. His body was never recovered. DNA testing is being carried out on remains found in mass graves at Fromelles, and DNA from two Weiss family members has been submitted.&lt;/div&gt;
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I am pleased that yesterday a close relative of mine was able to visit VC Corner at Fromelles, where Fred is officially commemorated, on the 100th anniversary of his death to pay her respects.&lt;/div&gt;
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I&#39;ve had photos of German Roman Catholic parish registers for ages that I&#39;ve been meaning to go through and translate, and I&#39;m finally getting around to it. Many old Roman Catholic registers are written in Latin, as are these.&lt;br /&gt;
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My Latin knowledge extends mainly to those words used to describe plants (I&#39;m a botanist), but not so much to those words which might be used in a parish register. However, I&#39;ve found three very useful resources, which used in conjunction, I have been able to make sense of much of the entries I&#39;ve been looking at so far.&lt;/div&gt;
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The first one is the &lt;a href=&quot;https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Latin_Genealogical_Word_List&quot;&gt;Latin Genealogical Word List&lt;/a&gt; from FamilySearch. It gives a great general overview of words that might come up in your family history research.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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The second one is a list of &lt;a href=&quot;http://rbms.info/lpn/&quot;&gt;Latin place names&lt;/a&gt;. Without that I would never have guessed that &lt;i&gt;Moguntiae&lt;/i&gt; actually meant Mainz, Germany.&lt;br /&gt;
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The last one is &lt;a href=&quot;https://archive.org/details/parishregisterla00crus&quot;&gt;Parish Register Latin: An Introduction,&lt;/a&gt; by C. Russell Jensen, available on Internet Archive. This one is a lot more comprehensive than the first resource listed here, and you could possibly teach yourself how to read the Latin reasonably well with it, if you had the time or inclination. For me though, the most useful part was the Latin-English Word List, starting on page 385. Often I can work out some of the letters in a handwritten word, and being able to look at words which might be used in the same context and/or start with the same letters can often help me decipher the likely word.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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We were visiting friends up north, and on the way back we took a detour to visit where the Beringer family came from, in the Eltville area near Wiesbaden.&lt;br /&gt;
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We found the old mill that used to be in the family on a street named &quot;An der Lochmühle&quot;, on the way into the resort town of Schlangenbad. It has been rebuilt since my ancestors lived and worked there, though the general layout of the buildings on the land is very similar to what it once was. However it was good to see where it was, and imagine my ancestors there, and to walk past the creek that young Beringer children might have played in in summers of years gone by.&lt;br /&gt;
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As well as seeing the mill, I checked out some of the local cemeteries, to see if there were any remaining headstones of long gone relatives. I wasn&#39;t expecting much, because in Germany graves can be recycled every 30 years or so, but I was rather hoping they might have kept old headstones. I checked three local cemeteries - Rauenthal, Martinstal and Schlangenbad, but sadly nothing there appeared relevant. Rauenthal had only new headstones, Martinstal had a couple of older ones amongst all the new, and Schlangenbad was a very quiet cemetery, way off up the hill from the town, with a number of headstones remaining from the time of my Beringers, but still there was no luck.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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I&#39;m still trying to sort out &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2016/06/walter-mcindoe.html&quot;&gt;Walter McIndoe&lt;/a&gt;. I truly suspect that the Walter McIndoe born to Robert McIndoe and Bethia Duncan in Strathblane, Stirlingshire on 7th July 1763 is NOT the Walter McIndoe who lived and worked on Ladrishmore Farm, Kilmaronock, Dunbartonshire.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://books.google.com.au/books?id=p29l5Xe6TOEC&amp;amp;pg=PA286&amp;amp;lpg=PA286&amp;amp;dq=mcindoe+petersburg+va&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=W34lhLXvg2&amp;amp;sig=meJ1GwelCRr4REfPPc6HG5zwuB0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwiK48qGpN7NAhWMmBoKHT8zDsEQ6AEINDAF#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=mcindoe%20petersburg%20va&amp;amp;f=false&quot;&gt;A Dictionary of Scottish Immigrants to the USA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; (Whyte, 2009, p286), Walter McIndoe, nephew of James McIndoe of Carbeth, Stirlingshire, settled in Petersburg, Virginia, before 1821, and worked as a merchant.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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Walter McIndoe is listed for Petersburg in the Personal/Property Tax Lists for 1790 and 1799. As a result of the American Revolution a Loyalist Claim was placed by a W. McIndoe in Virginia in 1806 - it wouldn&#39;t be unheard of for a Scot to side with the British Crown. Walter McIndoe was still living in Petersburg, Dinwiddie County, Virginia, in the 1830 US Census, but no longer there by the 1840 Census, presumably because he died during that decade. Although none of these particular records &amp;nbsp;confirm this Walter McIndoe is Scottish, it all certainly fits in the timeline.&lt;/div&gt;
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So, I am willing to provisionally accept that Walter McIndoe, son of Robert McIndoe and Bethia Duncan, did emigrate to America, and therefore that Walter McIndoe of Ladrishmore Farm is not the son of Robert McIndoe and Bethia Duncan.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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So this means I need to make some adjustments to my family tree, and find new parents for Walter McIndoe of Ladrishmore Farm. I&#39;m not expecting it to be easy!&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And I&#39;ve come across Walter McIndoe, my 4x great grandfather, who was married to Jean Andrew, and lived in Dunbartonshire, but was supposedly born in Strathblane, Stirlingshire, to Robert McIndoe and Bethia Duncan, on 7 July 1763. Jean Andrew was allegedly born in New or East Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, to William Andrew and Jean Reid on 7 August 1761.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, I want evidence. I can&#39;t find a marriage record for Walter and Jean, which might have given me further information on where Walter was from (though quite possibly not). I also can&#39;t find a death record, nor any will which might list brothers and sisters and where they live, and thus show any links to Strathblane.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The children of Walter and Jean that I have found records for are in the table below (with some large variations on the spelling of the surname!):

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&lt;th&gt;Name&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;Parents&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;Location&lt;/th&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;23 Jan 1784&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Jean&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter McIndoe, Jean Andrew&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Cloberhill&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;28 Apr 1789&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Margaret&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter McAndue, Jean Andrew&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Ladrishmore&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;10 Sep 1791&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter McAndue, Jean Andrew&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Ladrishmore&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;14 Sep 1793&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter MacIndoe, Jean Andrew&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Ladrishmore&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;12 Feb 1794&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;William&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter Macanduie, Jean Andrew&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;not specified in record, but recorded in Kilmaronock parish&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;5 Feb 1796&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Hugh&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter Macanduie, Jean Andrew&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;not specified in record, but recorded in Kilmaronock parish&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;2 Mar 1801&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Agnis&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter Macanduie, Jean Andrew&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;not specified in record, but recorded in Kilmaronock parish&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;8 Apr 1805&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;John&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Walter McCandie/Macandie, Jean Andrew&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Ladrishmore&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I am reasonably willing to accept that the Jean Andrew married to Walter McIndoe may well be the one born in 1761 to William Andrew and Jean Reid, partly because one of the kids is named William, but largely because the first (known) child was born in the same parish as where Jean&#39;s parents lived. Cloberhill was a farm in East/New Kilpatrick, situated on current-day Cloberhill Road, Glasgow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Within five years the family had moved to the Kilmarnock parish, as the tenants on a farm named Ladrishmore (or Lederishmore), almost next door to the farm where their son Walter built Ashfield House years later.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is nothing in the records that I have found that points to Great Great Great Great Grandfather Walter McIndoe being the son of Robert and Bethia McIndoe. In fact, I tend to think that the absence of any children of Walter and Jean&#39;s named Robert or Bethia supports my guess that they may not be Walter&#39;s parents. There is also information that I have found saying that Walter McIndoe, son of Robert and Bethia, actually emigrated to the US.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I haven&#39;t located any other potential parents for my Walter McIndoe, but that doesn&#39;t mean there weren&#39;t some. I&#39;d be interested to hear from anyone who could prove or disprove this theory of mine. Please get in touch if you think you can help!&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/feeds/596901975681463632/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2016/06/walter-mcindoe.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/596901975681463632'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3125108883043889739/posts/default/596901975681463632'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://becomingprue.blogspot.com/2016/06/walter-mcindoe.html' title='Walter McIndoe'/><author><name>Prue</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03545993243891419887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEif29LqnM0dWc6cKkwx3nzZLJvawjdw1CWwz_SjSi17hel8Ojo_ABGVBZSuccl-AFfzEPS12KeVoJppaH8ZLnpfvB7kXB1khZxALNA2ErGctEm_PrqDIvkwdwZ9EticJN4/s220/IMGP5062.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3125108883043889739.post-7024013016354071389</id><published>2016-05-06T21:38:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2016-05-06T22:41:07.064+10:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="FreeReg"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Sheldons"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Weiss&#39;"/><title type='text'>James Sheldon&#39;s ancestry</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; trbidi=&quot;on&quot;&gt;
I love it when everything falls into place, after struggling to make sense of something!&lt;br /&gt;
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A distant relative contacted me recently - a descendant of James Sheldon, who was married to Adelaide Catherine Gustavia Martha Weiss, the first child of &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2011/04/charles-and-benigna-weiss.html&quot;&gt;Charles Nicholas and Benigna Catharina Weiss&lt;/a&gt;. James Sheldon was a Church Missionary Society missionary in Kurrachee, India (now Karachi, Pakistan). I&#39;ve been able to find out a reasonable amount about him and his family in India, and then in England, after they returned from the mission field, but not much of his ancestry. Just that he was from Walsall, Staffordshire. So armed with a little bit more information from James&#39; descendant, I went digging.&lt;br /&gt;
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I collected so many bits of information from all over the place that I put it all into a timeline in a spreadsheet, to try and make sense of it all. I coloured-coded information about different people, to make it easier to note where the information about a certain person seemed to end (helps to target a timeframe for a death/burial notice).&lt;br /&gt;
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We knew that James Sheldon was born in Walsall on 7 Oct 1828, and from his marriage record, that his father&#39;s name was also James Sheldon (henceforth &quot;James Sheldon senior&quot; here). We also suspected his mother&#39;s name was Ann Hannah Middleton. I had found him in the 1841 Census living with James and Ann Bullock, and his sister Mary, and brother Humphrey Jarvis. Humphrey was still living with James and Ann Bullock in the 1851 Census, and was named as their grandson. I also found information that suggested James Sheldon had a brother called John.&lt;/div&gt;
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So we had to make sense of the surnames of Sheldon, Bullock and Middleton. On &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freereg.org.uk/&quot;&gt;FreeReg&lt;/a&gt; I found baptism records for the four known Sheldon children, which confirmed that their father was James Sheldon, publican, their mother was Ann, and they lived in Park St during the period those children were born. The Sheldon family seemed to be involved in running pubs in Walsall (of which there were many), so I focused on that. I found information from historical directories - it turned out there were Middletons and Bullocks running pubs too - and put it all in my timeline. I also found info on a very helpful &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.longpull.co.uk/&quot;&gt;website&lt;/a&gt; about the historical pubs of Walsall (and other areas in Staffordshire).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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After I had found all the information I could about who ran which pub, I started searching in historical newspapers for any information on either Joseph Middleton (who apparently ran the Royal Oak before James Sheldon senior took it over), James Sheldon (senior), and James Bullock. And that was where I really struck gold. Advertisements about James Sheldon senior selling land, pubs, goods, going bankrupt, then dying &quot;in the prime of life&quot;, and then Ann taking over the pub he was running before he died. Apparently James wasn&#39;t too good at running a business, and perhaps the stress of it killed him.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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Further research revealed an application for a marriage license for Ann Middleton, widow, to marry James Bullock. Ann Middleton was widowed... who was she previously married to? The penny dropped... Joseph Middleton? Had he already died by then? Yes! I searched for a marriage record... yes! Was the Ann who was married to James Sheldon senior actually Ann Middleton, daughter of Ann and Joseph Middleton? Yes! I haven&#39;t found any information on her having a middle name of Hannah, so we&#39;ll discount that middle name. I searched further and found marriage and birth records to corroborate what I suspected. I also found that James Sheldon senior&#39;s widow Ann remarried, to a Charles Holmes, and they went on to have children of their own. This helps to explain why her children with James weren&#39;t living with her in 1841, but instead with her mother and stepfather. I also discovered that the maiden name of Joseph Middleton&#39;s wife Ann was Jarvis. And she happened to have a brother called Humphrey - there&#39;s the answer to the mystery of the strange name of James Sheldon&#39;s brother &quot;Humphrey Jarvis Sheldon&quot;.&lt;/div&gt;
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Now I just have to work on James Sheldon senior&#39;s branch of the family tree. I suspect his father was John Sheldon, and his mother Margaret, but I haven&#39;t yet found proof.&lt;/div&gt;
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My great great grandfather William Rich was, according to his funeral notice, a Crimean War veteran.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sydney Morning Herald&lt;/i&gt;, 27 April 1927, p11.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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And according to the funeral notice under the one his family placed in the paper, he was also a member of the United Imperial Navy and Army Veterans&#39; Association of NSW. What was &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;? I&#39;ve never heard of it!&lt;br /&gt;
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I did some research on Trove, and also in the Sydney Morning Herald archives (1955-1995). The first mention in the Sydney Morning Herald of the the United Imperial Navy and Army Veterans&#39; Association of NSW was in 1908, and the last was in 1960.&lt;/div&gt;
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From the research I have done, it appears that the organisation pre-dates today&#39;s Returned Services League (RSL), which was formed in 1917. The RSL is for those who served or are serving in the Australian Defence Forces, whereas The United Imperial Navy and Army Veterans&#39; Association of NSW appears to have been for any British veteran who had seen service up to and including 1885. Members of the latter organisation had served in many different conflicts including in the Crimea, the Sudan, and India. I contacted the RSL and they confirmed that they are unrelated to the United Imperial Navy and Army Veterans&#39; Association of NSW. It seems to me that the United Imperial Navy and Army Veterans&#39; Association of NSW possibly just died out once all the old veterans had died.&lt;/div&gt;
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A write-up of the Veterans Christmas Dinner of 1923 mentions William Rich; &quot;Nine of those present were over 80 years of age, two of the oldest being Mr. William Rich, 89, who fought at the Crimea in 1854, and Mr. Charles Kidd, 80, who fought in the Indian mutiny three years later.&quot; (&lt;i&gt;Sydney Morning Herald&lt;/i&gt;, 24 December 1923, p10). At a veterans gathering for Empire Day in 1926 &quot;The Governor General was the principal speaker... [and] hailed as &quot;comrade&quot; the hardy old soldier, William Rich, who served in the Crimea, and is marching - if more feebly than of old - towards his centenary.&quot; (&lt;i&gt;The Telegraph&lt;/i&gt;, 29 May 1926, p12.) At the Christmas dinner after William Rich died he was mentioned: &quot;Since the last dinner their oldest member, William Rich, who had served in the Crimea, and almost reached 100 years, had died&quot; (&lt;i&gt;Sydney Morning Herald&lt;/i&gt;, 19 December 1927, p10).&lt;/div&gt;
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From these articles we learn that William Rich was in the Army, not the Navy, as he is referred to as a soldier, not a sailor, and that he fought in the Crimea in 1854. One wonders why it was only 1854, as the British were still in the Crimea in 1855 - was he invalided out?&lt;/div&gt;
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I also learnt in my research that William Rich lived at the Veterans&#39; Home at La Perouse, on Bare Island. This explains why he did not live with his wife towards the end of his life - a question that I have wondered about for some time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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A while ago I accidentally &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2015/01/using-wildcard-to-search.html&quot;&gt;discovered&lt;/a&gt; a new child of Samuel Christian Frederick Baumgarten and Mary Joynes who had been hidden from me by bad spelling! I discovered Samuel Frederick Baumgarten&#39;s baptism record, though his surname was spelled Baumgerten.&lt;br /&gt;
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Further research has revealed that Samuel Frederick Baumgarten actually went by Samuel &lt;i&gt;Henry&lt;/i&gt; Baumgarten for the rest of his life... In my research into the Baumgarten family I had come across Samuel Henry Baumgarten and his descendants regularly, but had found nothing to link him to my Baumgarten family. Actually, the only way I was ever able to work out that he was the same as the person who was baptised Samuel &lt;i&gt;Frederick&lt;/i&gt; Baumgarten was through reading some centuries-old legal documents at the National Archives UK.&lt;br /&gt;
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It would seem that one of the reasons why I didn&#39;t realise Samuel Henry Baumgarten was related to my Baumgartens - even though Baumgarten was an extremely uncommon surname in 18th and 19th century London - was that he was disowned by the rest of his family over a dispute over an inheritance.&lt;br /&gt;
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Samuel Henry Baumgarten was the firstborn of Samuel Christian Frederick Baumgarten and Mary Joynes. His maternal grandfather, Henry Joynes, died in 1754, &lt;a href=&quot;http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D553744&quot;&gt;leaving an inheritance&lt;/a&gt; to his two surviving children: his son Samuel Joynes and his daughter Mary, Samuel Henry Baumgarten&#39;s mother (or her children in equal shares in the event of her death).&lt;br /&gt;
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Samuel Joynes died in June 1770, &lt;a href=&quot;http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D440043&quot;&gt;leaving the residue of his estate&lt;/a&gt; to his sister Mary, and in the event of her death, in equal shares to her children. However, Mary died less than a month after her brother, and being intestate, and following the law of primogeniture, her firstborn Samuel Henry Baumgarten inherited everything.&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking into account the wishes of Henry Joynes and Samuel Joynes, the rest of the Baumgarten family, lead by their father Samuel Christian Frederick Baumgarten, obviously felt they had a case for contesting the allocation of the entire inheritance to Samuel Henry Baumgarten, and they took him to court. A succession of court cases over many years followed, which eventually resulted in the inheritance from Mary Baumgarten née Joynes being split equally amongst her surviving children. Sadly, it appears that relations between Samuel Henry and the rest of his family irreparably broke down as a result of these court cases.&lt;br /&gt;
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You wouldn&#39;t necessarily expect to learn too much relevant to family history from the sometimes huge pieces of vellum that the court cases were written up on - or at least I naively didn&#39;t! However, as the court cases took place over many years, it was possible to track the births and deaths of children and grandchildren of the Baumgarten family over that time. I could work out which of the known children (from baptism records) died young, because they were or were not included in the parties bringing the case to court. I could also confirm Mary Baumgarten&#39;s death date, which I had not been able to find with certainty anywhere else. So its worth poring over ancient documents which might seem virtually impenetrable because of the old legalese and handwriting because you just might find some very useful facts!&lt;/div&gt;
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You never know your luck in a &lt;strike&gt;big city&lt;/strike&gt; small German town, close to the French border. Today there was a handicrafts flea market in the hall behind my daughter&#39;s school. There were lots of balls of wool and ugly material that no one wanted any more, some old junky bits of sewing notions, and some beautiful old sewing things too.&lt;br /&gt;
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I judiciously avoided the junk and found some old insertion lace, some old threads on beautiful wooden reels - so much more lovely than today&#39;s plastic reels, some antique copper monogram stencils (never seen anything like them before), an old tape measure and a random assortment of buttons. Because we are so close to the French border, some of the goods were of French origin, including from companies based in Mulhouse, historically an important textile manufacturing city, less than an hour away. Mulhouse is the home of the embroidery thread company DMC, and also my Weiss family.&lt;br /&gt;
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Top left is a reel of sewing cotton made by DMC. Top middle is a ball of Cordonnet Spécial crochet cotton also made by DMC. As explained &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2014/04/how-i-am-related-to-embroidery-thread.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, DMC stands for Dollfus Mieg et Cie, and I am distantly related to one of the founders, Jean-Henri Dollfus.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the tape measure it says &quot;Employez le &#39;Fil Schlumberger&#39; pour la couture a la machine et a la main&quot;. Schlumberger is also a Mulhousien surname which is related to my Weiss family.&lt;br /&gt;
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So I picked up some beautiful things, some of which have real family history significance to me. You never know your luck in a small German town, close to the French border.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mary Ann Williams was my great great grandmother. I know she was from Bristol, Gloucestershire, England, married John Wilkey in Bristol, and then they emigrated to Australia, where they had nine children.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Mary Ann Wilkey née Williams, undated. &lt;br /&gt;
Photo courtesy of Margaret Robinson, used with permission.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Who were her parents?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;According to her marriage record, her father&#39;s name was George Williams, and he was a labourer. According to her immigration records, her father was Joseph and her mother was Ann. Slightly contradictory!&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Where was she born?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;I can only assume it was Bristol, Gloucestershire, as this is noted on her immigration records and also her death certificate. There is a baptism record which is potentially hers at St Philip and St Jacob&#39;s, Bristol, on 9 June 1844, with the parents listed as George and Ann (there is no baptism record in Gloucestershire with parents Joseph and Ann in the right timeframe). Unfortunately I have only been able to view a transcript of this record - I&#39;d love to see if there was further information on the original parish record. There are many other Mary Ann Williams born around this time in Bristol, but the above record is the only one with a father named George, in the correct time period. Interestingly though, there is no obvious matching birth record for this baptism in the English Births Marriages and Deaths records.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Where did Mary live?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;On her marriage record in 1863&amp;nbsp;Mary Ann Williams&#39; residence at the time of the marriage was Newfoundland Gardens. As they married only two years after the 1861 English Census, I checked the census records for any Mary Ann Williams living in Newfoundland St. Unfortunately the only Mary Williams living in Newfoundland St was 50 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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So we must therefore assume that Mary Ann Williams had moved residence between the 1861 Census and her wedding. There is no record for a Mary (Ann) Williams of the correct age living with a father George and/or mother Ann in Bristol in either the 1851 or 1861 Census. Was she orphaned? Did she have to go out and work from a young age? Or did she move away for a time?&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a Mary Ann Williams of the right age living in New St in both the 1851 and 1861 Census, with James and Martha Vowles. Mary Ann is listed as their grandchild. It is just a coincidence that New St and Newfoundland Gardens are similar? If she was my Mary Ann Williams, this would mean that it was her mother who was James and Martha&#39;s child. However, I was unable to find a marriage record for an Ann Vowles and a George Williams anywhere. Similarly there was no marriage record for an Ann Vowles and a &lt;i&gt;Joseph&lt;/i&gt; Williams.&lt;br /&gt;
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Searching back to the 1841 Census, I realised that although I wouldn&#39;t find Mary Ann because she wasn&#39;t born yet, I might find James and Martha Vowles. And there the plot thickened... Listed in New Street were the following living in a single house:&lt;br /&gt;
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James Vowles, aged 40, Labourer, born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
Martha Vowles, aged 40, born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
Mary Weaver, aged 75, born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
John Vowles, 14 (born c1827), born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
James Vowles, 10 (born c1831), born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
Eliz Vowles, 4 (born c1837), born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
Mary Vowles, 3mths (born 1841), born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
Ann Williams, 17 (born c1824), born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
Louisa Williams, 11 (born c1830), born in Gloucestershire&lt;br /&gt;
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It seemed very interesting that there were two girls with the surname of Williams tacked on at the end there. Particularly one called Ann. So perhaps they were daughters of Martha, from a previous marriage. But then the eldest Vowles son, John, was born between Ann and Louisa Williams.... so perhaps John Vowles was the product of a previous marriage for James Vowles. Did we have an early version of the Brady Bunch here?&lt;br /&gt;
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Further research revealed James Vowles married Martha Williams on 30 January 1836 at St James, Bristol, and James&#39; marital status was&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;married&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(though perhaps it should have been widowed?) This suggests that John and James (jnr) were sons of James Vowles senior from a previous marriage, and Ann and Louisa were daughters of Martha Williams from a previous marriage.&lt;br /&gt;
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So if Ann&#39;s maiden name was Williams, and her daughter Mary Ann&#39;s surname was also Williams, this suggests that Mary Ann was born out of wedlock. I wonder what Mary Ann&#39;s father George&#39;s surname was? I&#39;d have to pin down a definite birth record to be able to find out, but Mary Ann&#39;s illegitimacy may be why it is hard to find - maybe Ann was sent away to have her baby and thus it was registered elsewhere. And what happened to Ann - why was Mary Ann living with her grandparents rather than her mother in the 1851 and 1861 censuses? Perhaps Ann died, or maybe she married and her new husband didn&#39;t want her illegitimate daughter living with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Mary Ann&#39;s wedding&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On 6 April 1863 Mary Ann Williams married John Wilkey at St Paul&#39;s Bristol, by banns.&lt;br /&gt;
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Both Mary Ann and John were listed as of full age but this was incorrect for both - John was 18 years old and Mary Ann was 19. It would seem that there were a few white lies on the marriage record: Mary Ann&#39;s father was listed as George Williams, however from the research detailed above it is unlikely that George&#39;s surname was Williams, though it was Mary Ann&#39;s mother&#39;s surname. Did their parents attend the wedding? Mary Ann&#39;s mother was possibly dead, and one wonders if she had any contact with her father. Both of John&#39;s parents were still alive, but they certainly didn&#39;t sign the register as witnesses. In fact, the witnesses were both employed by the parish of St Pauls - William White was the parish clerk, and Mary White, his wife, was the sextoness of the parish.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Emigration to Australia&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Just over half a year after they were married, on December 15, 1863, John and Mary Ann Wilkey left &amp;nbsp;Liverpool, England for Australia on the Montrose. The Montrose arrived in Sydney, on March 27, 1864. The immigration records show that Mary Ann Wilkie (sic) was 19 years old, the wife of John Wilkie (sic), from Bristol, Gloucestershire, England, her parents names were Ann and Joseph, with her father dead and her mother living in Bristol, and it also noted that Mary Ann could read and write (interesting considering she signed the marriage register with her mark!)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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So if we have established that it was more likely that George was her father, where did this Joseph fit in? Had Ann married someone called Joseph? There is a marriage record for an Ann Williams, single, marrying a Joseph Cross on 11 May 1845, at St Paul&#39;s Bristol. The bride&#39;s father&#39;s name was James Williams. This all fits. And so it would seem that Joseph Cross didn&#39;t really want his new wife&#39;s daughter Mary Ann living with them, so she was sent to live with her maternal grandparents.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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Mary Ann clearly knew that Joseph Cross was not her father because he was not named as her father on her marriage record, and Mary Ann had retained Williams as her surname. Perhaps it was just easier to put Joseph down as her father on the immigration records. Unhelpfully, I can&#39;t find a definite death record for either Ann or Joseph, nor can I find Ann in the 1861 Census, where she should be if she were still alive a few years later according to her daughter&#39;s immigration records. Maybe she remarried, though I can&#39;t find anything that confirms this.&lt;/div&gt;
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So, most of this is completely circumstantial, but it does all seem to fit together. And I&#39;m not sure that there is any easy way to confirm any of this, though I will keep trying!&lt;/div&gt;
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My great grandfather, &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2013/06/the-short-life-of-james-arthur-wilkey.html&quot;&gt;James Arthur Wilkey&lt;/a&gt;, died in 1907, aged 30, after falling from a train, while trying to rescue his hat which had blown off.&lt;br /&gt;
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I was searching through some of the recently added records on Ancestry this morning, plugging in some surnames to see if anything new came up. I was particularly interested in the NSW Teachers Rolls, 1869-1908, as there were a number of teachers in my own ancestry around that time. On a whim I put in the surname &quot;Wilkey&quot; not expecting to find anything, but....&lt;br /&gt;
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James Arthur Wilkey, who I understood to have been a clerk when he died, had a record in the NSW Teachers Rolls! Slightly surprising.&lt;br /&gt;
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The record says he was employed on probation as a Pupil Teacher at Darlington Public at the end of 1895, but by the beginning of the 1896 school year he had been transferred to Stanmore Public instead. Sadly though, his teaching career never really started before it was over because on February 24 of 1896 he called the Chief Inspector and stated that on account of his failing eyesight (aged only 19) he didn&#39;t feel he could continue his appointment as a pupil teacher.&lt;br /&gt;
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No one in the family has &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; mentioned his eyesight to me, probably because they didn&#39;t know about it - his son, my grandfather wasn&#39;t even born when he died. I wonder what the cause of the poor eyesight was? And now I wonder if his eyesight contributed to his death...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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I have always found that historical newspapers can be very important sources of information when researching family history. In an English speaking world that can be reasonably easy, however switching to other languages can make it more difficult.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a considerable amount of German ancestry, and have in the past, on the suggestion of Pauleen Cass from &lt;a href=&quot;https://cassmob.wordpress.com/&quot;&gt;Family History Across the Seas&lt;/a&gt;, researched German newspapers with Google Books by guessing newspaper names e.g. Blatter, Zeitung and putting it with location names. It&#39;s hit and miss, but can yield some wonderful results.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other day I found a fantastically useful book to assist with German historical newspaper research: &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://books.google.com.au/books?id=2BKww8urhfoC&amp;amp;pg=PA394&amp;amp;lpg=PA394&amp;amp;dq=zeitungs-+und+zeitschriftentitel&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=jkx2DN4V-k&amp;amp;sig=06kutWkf0FpNHFEKbTWXpWPcmWU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ved=0CB8Q6AEwAGoVChMIqJiuu5CoxwIVAYYsCh365QV9#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false&quot;&gt;Zeitungs- und Zeitschriftentitel- Register&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;by Gert Hagelweide, published by de Gruyter in 2007. It is available (though with limited pages) on Google Books. If you want to buy the e-book it will only cost you €269...&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, you still have to find access to those newspapers, and not all of them are available online. Your best bet is to start by searching &lt;a href=&quot;https://books.google.com.au/bkshp?hl=en&amp;amp;tab=pp&quot;&gt;Google Books&lt;/a&gt; and also &lt;a href=&quot;https://archive.org/&quot;&gt;Internet Archive&lt;/a&gt; for the online ones. Look for newspapers with the town/city/region name in them. Once you&#39;ve found some search the newspapers for the surname(s) that are relevant to your research. If you find the surname, and assuming you don&#39;t know German, use Google Translator to get the gist of the information. Then you should be able to work out if it is useful, even if the sentences only vaguely make sense!&lt;br /&gt;
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Good luck!&lt;/div&gt;
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It has been a long time because I&#39;ve been working on other things, but I&#39;m here!&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#39;ve recently been researching the Holst family, in memory of Harro Lange, who was a distant Holst relative and a keen researcher of the Holst family. Before he died in 2013 he hoped that others would take up the reins.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#39;m interested in the Holst family because my 3x great grandfather Charles Nicholas Weiss married Benigna Catharina von Holst. Her father Matthias adopted the &quot;von&quot; when he moved to England, but he was born Matthias Holst, in Riga. I&#39;ve recently discovered online parish records for the Lutheran churches in Riga, through &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lvva-raduraksti.lv/en.html&quot;&gt;Raduraksti.lv&lt;/a&gt;, and so have been delving into the Holsts. The records are written in German, which is something I&#39;m reasonably used to reading, so I&#39;m finding lots of new info.&lt;br /&gt;
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Benigna&#39;s parents were Matthias Holst and Catharina Rogge. The story goes that Catharina&#39;s brother, Johann was a knight or a prince of Russia but there has never been any evidence found to support this. Catharina was married before Matthias, to Johann Wilhelm Becker. They appeared in Riga in the 1790s (from Russia?), and had a child, Matthias Alexander, of whom Matthias Holst was a godfather. On the baptism record for Matthias Alexander, Catharina&#39;s name was given as Catharina Beata Roggen. Was this really her surname, or a misspelling? I can&#39;t find her in any other parish records for Riga, so have no other primary sources with which to compare the spelling.&lt;br /&gt;
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Matthias Holst&#39;s father was said to be Meno Holst. Meno Holst married Maria Saumann at St Peter&#39;s Lutheran Church on the 3rd Sunday after Trinity in 1753 - I think this was in July. I have found records for many of the their children, but still have to nail down Matthias&#39; baptism record.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to all published information on him, Meno Holst apparently died in Riga in 1805. I have searched the parish records for his burial record and cannot find it in his family church of St Peter&#39;s, Riga in that year (though it &lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt; be in another parish). I have, however, found a burial record for a Meno Holst, with the same occupation description as on the baptism records of Meno and Marie&#39;s children, at the same church, who was buried on 31 January 1787, aged 63 years. I think this could be him. Although I haven&#39;t yet found a baptism record which corresponds, working backwards, this Meno Holst&#39;s birth year would be about 1724, in which case, if it IS my Meno Holst, he would have been 29 years old when he married Marie Saumann, which seems reasonable.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if there were two different Meno Holsts so I went through all the parish records that I could find for him, and checked his occupation:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;th&gt;Occupation of Meno Holst&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;Source&lt;/th&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Jul 1753&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Marriage of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0b5394;&quot;&gt;Ältester der Schwarzen Häupter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1712-1842 German, married&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;18 Mar 1754&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism of Adolph, son of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;No occupation given&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1737-1762 German, born&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;20 Mar 1754&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial of unnamed child (possibly Adolph) of Meno Holst&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;No occupation given&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1657-1811 German, died&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Feb 1755&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial of unnamed daughter of Meno Holst&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;No occupation given&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1657-1811 German, died&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Jan 1757&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism of Lorenz Christian, son of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;No occupation given&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1737-1762 German, born&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Jun 1757&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial of Christian Lorenz, son of Meno Holst&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;No occupation given&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1657-1811 German, died&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Jun 1758&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism of Anna Gerdrutha, daughter of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;No occupation given&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1737-1762 German, born&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Aug 1759&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism of Matthias, son of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;Kaufmann&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1737-1762 German, born&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Sep 1759&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial of unnamed child (Matthias?) of Meno Holst&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;No occupation given&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1657-1811 German, died&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;3 Oct 1764&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism of Meno Hinrich, son of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #38761d;&quot;&gt;Commercien Rath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1763-1800 German, born&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;May 1766&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism of Martha, daughter of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #38761d;&quot;&gt;Commercien Rath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1763-1800 German, born&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Jan 1770&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism of Meno Hinrich, son of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #38761d;&quot;&gt;Commercien Rath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1763-1800 German, born&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Oct 1770&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial of Meno Hinrich, son of Meno Holst&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #38761d;&quot;&gt;Commercien Rath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1657-1811 German, died&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Jul 1773&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Baptism of Maria Eleonora, daughter of Meno Holst and Maria Saumann&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #38761d;&quot;&gt;Commercien Rath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1763-1800 German, born&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Oct 1786&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial of Maria Eleonora, daughter of Meno Holst&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #38761d;&quot;&gt;Commercien Rath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1657-1811 German, died&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td&gt;Jan 1787&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Burial of Meno Holst, aged 63&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #38761d;&quot;&gt;Commercien Rath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;St Petri Riga 1657-1811 German, died&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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A bit of further research confirmed that unmarried merchants could become members of the &lt;i&gt;Schwarzen Häupter&lt;/i&gt;, and then after the married they would join the &lt;i&gt;Gross Gilde&lt;/i&gt; (the Great Guild). This would explain why he was no longer referred to as &lt;i&gt;Ältester der Schwarzen Häupter &lt;/i&gt;(Elder of the Black Heads)&amp;nbsp;after he was married. &lt;i&gt;Commercien Rath&lt;/i&gt; was a title for someone who promoted trade activities, while &lt;i&gt;kaufmann&lt;/i&gt; means merchant.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as I can tell, Meno Holst died in 1787, not 1805. All the information that I can find stating that he died in 1805 was written at least 100 years after either death date, so therefore I will stick with the death year of 1787, unless someone can prove to me otherwise!&lt;br /&gt;
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Edited to add: I found Meno&#39;s wife Marie&#39;s burial record - she was buried on 14 August &lt;b&gt;1805&lt;/b&gt;. I believe that the year of Marie&#39;s death has been assumed to be Meno&#39;s. I&#39;m not surprised no one had found her death record before - she was named as Maria von Holsten, however it says she was the wife of the Commercien Rath, and that she was 72 years old, which fits. Glad I sorted that out!&lt;/div&gt;
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Yesterday I took the kids on a very rainy day to do some searching for dead relatives in cemeteries in Mulhouse.&lt;br /&gt;
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From my research I had found that the old cemetery of Mulhouse had now become Parc Salvator, even though I thought that some of the graves remained. No, I was wrong. There were none. All the headstones had been removed, and I have no idea if all the occupants have been reinterred at the new cemetery, or whether there were some left in situ. Perhaps if I understood French I would know! So after getting to Parc Salvator and finding it a wasted trip, with the rain and all, I decided we would head home.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, I got us lost on the drive home (I have a good map but I can&#39;t read it while driving, and I&#39;m not sure of any of my kids&#39; map reading skills), and ended up very close to the new cemetery, so I made the decision we would go after all. Serendipity!&lt;br /&gt;
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We found a &lt;i&gt;lot &lt;/i&gt;of family buried there, and we didn&#39;t even finish exploring before the kids&#39; whinging got the better of my searching and we headed home.&lt;br /&gt;
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Which brings me to the reason I wanted to see the graves: I have a new Weiss family website which I am working on. It covers my ongoing research into the Weiss family of Mulhouse, and brings all the information I have on each individual together. I hope there will be many people across the world who find the information I have put together useful. And now there are some photos of graves on the new website too!&lt;br /&gt;
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See here for the new website: &lt;a href=&quot;http://weissfamilymulhouse.blogspot.de/p/home.html&quot;&gt;The Weiss Family of Mulhouse&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;
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A couple of days ago I was doing some research on &lt;a href=&quot;http://becomingprue.blogspot.de/2011/09/samuel-baumgarten-bassoonist.html&quot;&gt;Samuel Christian Frederic Baumgarten&lt;/a&gt; and accidentally discovered an extra child!&lt;br /&gt;
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It turns out that Samuel Frederick Baumgarten was Samuel and Mary Baumgarten&#39;s first child - they were married on June 6, 1751, and he was born on March 4, 1752. I cannot find any record for what happened to him, but neither can I for most of his siblings, and can only assume that they died young.&lt;br /&gt;
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But why hadn&#39;t I found him before? I&#39;m pretty thorough with my research after all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Spelling. The surname was spelled differently.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#39;ve found Baumgarten transcribed as Baumgarton before, as a result of how they wrote the letter &quot;e&quot; in those days - which can these days be misconstrued as an &quot;o&quot;. In this case though, it was recorded with an incorrect spelling - &quot;Baumgerten&quot;, which could well have been transcribed as Baumgorton but amazingly wasn&#39;t! You can see the way they wrote the letter &quot;e&quot; below.&lt;br /&gt;
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I found him by using a wildcard when searching for Baumgarten references. A wildcard is a symbol used to represent one or more characters. Usually the symbol used is a &quot;?&quot; or a &quot;*&quot; or a &quot;%&quot;. On the off-chance that there might have been different spellings I used &quot;Baum*&quot; in my search, though usually I have used &quot;Baumgart*&quot; as I never expected them to get the second &quot;a&quot; wrong! And I accidentally discovered Samuel Frederick Baumgarten as a result.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, if you&#39;re up against a brick wall, can I suggest you use wildcards in your searches. You never know what surprises you might uncover!&lt;/div&gt;
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