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		<title>iron sharpens, umm… iron [how @thehighcalling sharpens me]</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan King</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really love working with the crew at The High Calling Blogs! They make me better in more ways than one. I had an experience recently that really shows how amazing these guys are, and how much we can all benefit from being teachable and willing to listen and learn. As the Social Media Editor [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/46355638@N00/4344515273/"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7078" title="foot-powered-sharpening-stone" src="http://bibledude.net/wp-content/uploads/foot-powered-sharpening-stone-300x447.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="447" /></a>I really love working with the crew at <a href="http://highcallingblogs.com/" target="_blank">The High Calling Blogs</a>! They make me better in more ways than one. I had an experience recently that really shows how amazing these guys are, and how much we can all benefit from being teachable and willing to listen and learn.</p>
<p>As the Social Media Editor for the network, most people only see me as &#8216;<a href="http://twitter.com/thehighcalling" target="_blank">@thehighcalling</a>&#8216; on Twitter, or an (invisible) admin on the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/TheHighCalling" target="_blank">Facebook page</a>. I don&#8217;t get the opportunity to write for the site very often, unless it has something directly to do with social media tips and strategy.</p>
<p>However, I had the chance to share a little bit about my recent <a href="http://bibledude.net/2010/06/the-haiti-diaries/" target="_self">mission trip to Haiti</a>, and worked with <a href="http://highcallingblogs.com/about/sam-van-eman/" target="_blank">Sam Van Eman</a> to publish a story through our &#8216;culture&#8217; category. Sam was pretty tough on me, but we worked over my initial draft into something that communicates my heart much better than what I was able to get &#8216;on paper&#8217; by myself.</p>
<p>What I particularly appreciate is that I always knew Sam had <em>my</em> intent in mind rather than trying to force something that <em>he</em> thought needed to be there. The end result is still my story, but one that&#8217;s much better than my initial draft.</p>
<p>Let me show you what I mean. Check out the opening paragraph&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>My recent trip to Haiti rocked me in ways I never expected. Being exposed to that level of poverty is gut-wrenching enough, but add to it the destruction from January’s earthquake and the experience becomes rather difficult to put into words. While I saw lots of reasons to believe that healing will come, on the surface the circumstances there still seem desperately hopeless.</p></blockquote>
<p>And what I started with sounded something like this&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>I went to Haiti, and it was awesome. I had a really, really, really good time. I met lots of people, and *burp* (excuse me) *burp* (excuse me again) &#8230;and they were really, really, really poor. Really. Now I&#8217;m gonna tell you about something really cool that I saw&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Well&#8230; okay, maybe that&#8217;s not my <em>actual</em> first draft of the post&#8230; But the one we ended up with was really good (especially compared to my initial attempt).</p>
<p>My point is that I learned a great deal about what it <em>really</em> means to be teachable, and I&#8217;m really happy with the end result because I allowed myself to be open to what Sam had to share. I&#8217;m also thankful that there are guys like Sam out there willing to spend time on guys like me.</p>
<p><em>So who do you need to let sharpen you today? In what areas can you open yourself up to be more teachable? </em></p>
<blockquote><p><em>Check out the entire post that I mentioned here: <strong><a href="http://highcallingblogs.com/12014/life-around-the-rubble/" target="_blank">Life Around the Rubble</a></strong></em></p></blockquote>

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		<title>[the #haiti diaries] through vivian’s eyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivian Linder</dc:creator>
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		<title>@theideacamp sexual orientation week wrap-up [#ICSEX]</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan King</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why did this week&#8217;s blogging series have to be one of the most awkward that I&#8217;ve ever been a part of? Seriously&#8230; I was blown away by how much people opened up during weeks like PORN WEEK and ABUSE WEEK. But now it seems that we&#8217;re talking about homosexuality, I know that even the strongest [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theideacamp.com" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6661" title="#ICSEX" src="http://bibledude.net/wp-content/uploads/ICSex_banner_300x250.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="250" /></a>Why did this week&#8217;s blogging series have to be one of the most awkward that I&#8217;ve ever been a part of?</p>
<p>Seriously&#8230; I was blown away by how much people opened up during weeks like <a href="http://bibledude.net/2010/07/theideacamp-porn-week-wrap-up-icsex/" target="_self">PORN WEEK</a> and <a href="http://bibledude.net/2010/07/theideacamp-sex-abuse-week-wrap-up-icsex/" target="_self">ABUSE WEEK</a>. But now it seems that we&#8217;re talking about homosexuality, I know that even the strongest participants in this project mentioned to me that it was a very tough one to write about. That tells me that this is probably one of the more important issues we need to be discussing in the church.</p>
<p>This week was <a href="https://www.theideacamp.com/category/sexual-orientation/" target="_blank">ORIENTATION WEEK</a>, the fourth of the six-week series of discussions on various sex-related topics.</p>
<p>While many people found it difficult at times to discuss this topic, there is one trend that I&#8217;ve noticed throughout most of the posts. And it&#8217;s a trend that I saw heterosexuals, homosexuals, and &#8216;recovering&#8217; homosexuals all saying&#8230;</p>
<p>The best way to approach the discussion is with unconditional love. We must realize that Jesus died on the cross for <em>ALL</em> of us&#8230; even the people who live with same-sex attractions. We can never forget this point when approaching the discussion of homosexuality in the church.</p>
<p>Here’s a quick recap of the posts that we saw come in this week:</p>
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<li><strong><a href="http://native4christ.com/2010/08/23/the-pickled-yet-fathomable-truth-of-orientation/" target="_blank">The Pickled yet Fathomable Truth of Orientation</a></strong><br />
Evelyn Fazzio Chaisson talks from several different perspectives about the sin-nature of homosexuality and what real freedom looks like.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.casadeblundell.com/jonathan/icsex-why-i-support-same-sex-marriages/" target="_blank">Why I Support Same Sex Marriage</a></strong><br />
Jonathan Blundell deals with the issue of gay marriage and why he supports it. His perspective touches on legislating morality and how we can engage in this conversation.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://bibledude.net/2010/08/how-to-cure-homosexuality-icsex/" target="_self">how to cure homosexuality? [#ICSEX]</a></strong><br />
Dan King (that&#8217;s me!) challenges Christians to rethink how we &#8216;deal with&#8217; homosexuality in the church by being agents of God&#8217;s love, mercy, grace, and forgiveness.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://blog.davidgoodwin.com/who-do-you-love-a-post-for-icsex-orientation" target="_blank">Who Do You Love?</a></strong><br />
David Goodwin opens up about his life-long same-sex struggles and how the church can be a part of the healing process for others like him.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://justapen.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/icsex-orientation-week-a-question-of-identity/" target="_blank">Orientation Week &#8211; A Question of Identity</a></strong><br />
Seiji Yamashita attempts to reconcile the problem with sexual sin and how the church should approach the issue. How can the church accept someone with sin in their life? Hmmm&#8230;</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.charlestlee.com/the-idea-camp/sexual-orientation-the-church-an-interview-with-andrew-marin/" target="_blank">Sexual Orientation &amp; the Church (An Interview with Andrew Marin)</a></strong><br />
Charles Lee Skype-interviews Andrew Marin (author of <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0830836268?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=biblednet-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0830836268" target="_blank">Love is an Orientation</a></em> and founder of The Marin Foundation) about how his views have changed and the research that he&#8217;s doing these days. Oh, and Andrew is one of our <a href="https://www.theideacamp.com/camp-details/guides/" target="_blank">Camp Guides</a> for the Vegas event!</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.jessegiglio.com/journal/gay-christian-icsex.html" target="_blank">Gay Christian?</a></strong><br />
Jesse Giglio talks openly with a friend who is a Christian AND is openly gay. The discussion reveals some interesting insight into how to approach the conversation.</li>
</ul>
<p>Other posts this week not focusing on orientation:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://therunamuck.com/2010/08/20/lets-talk-about-sex-a-ready-heart-a-ready-body/" target="_blank"><strong>Let’s Talk About Sex: A Ready Heart, A Ready Body</strong></a><br />
Amber Haines talks about brokenness and being spiritually and emotionally strong during intimate times. This is a very insightful post for anyone struggling with intimacy&#8230; definitely a must read!</li>
</ul>
<p>Let’s keep this conversation going… <em>Which of these posts impacted you the most? Why? What other perspectives on gender do you think are important to share/consider?</em></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Coming up next: </strong><strong>Slavery – Week beginning Sunday, September 5th</strong><br />
This is the ‘social justice’ side of the sex discussion. Many are sold into sex slavery every day all around the world. But what can/should the church be doing about it? Do we have a responsibility to protect those who are affected by this? This conversation will focus on building awareness for this tragic issue, but also further practical solutions that people can take to bring an end to it. If you’re interested in participating in this conversation, then let us know in the comments or contact <a href="http://twitter.com/bibledude" target="_blank">@bibledude</a>on Twitter.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you enjoying this conversation? Then consider coming to !C//SEX Las Vegas on 9.27.10. <a href="https://www.theideacamp.com/register/" target="_blank">Register now</a>! And if you comment on this post, then I’ll send you a special <strong>10% discount registration</strong> code!</p>

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		<title>how to cure homosexuality? [#ICSEX]</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan King</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m about to share is something that turns my stomach. I&#8217;m not writing today to debate what&#8217;s right or wrong about homosexuality. There are theologians who are way smarter than me that do a good enough job with keeping that discussion going.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to talk about whether or not someone is &#8216;born that way&#8217;. There have been lots of studies that try to prove and disprove that point.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.details.com/culture-trends/critical-eye/201006/gay-exorcism" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7009" title="Source: Details.com" src="http://bibledude.net/wp-content/uploads/gay_exorcism_sign-300x208.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="208" /></a>Right or wrong, avoidable or not, I want to talk about <strong>how the church addresses the issue of homosexuality</strong>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently read an article in a magazine that I usually don&#8217;t read. I got a subscription to <em>Details</em> by flippantly picking several magazines while spending some expiring airline miles. I decided that it wasn&#8217;t a magazine that I was very interested in after glancing at my first issue, so they normally find their way into the trash can directly from the mailbox.</p>
<p>But the June 2010 issue caught my eye with these words on the cover&#8230; <em><a href="http://www.details.com/culture-trends/critical-eye/201006/gay-exorcism" target="_blank">Inside the World of Gay Exorcism</a></em>. Inside, I found a disturbing article about how some churches deal with (what they consider to be) the root problem of homosexuality&#8230; demonic possession.</p>
<p>Is demonic possession the cause of homosexuality? I definitely believe that it&#8217;s possible, but not <em>always</em> the case. The New Testament also talks a great deal about our own &#8216;lustful desires&#8217;. I&#8217;ve known men before that I&#8217;ve felt could have some strong spiritual influence influencing their behavior, but I also know many that behave certain ways due to natural desires of the flesh.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t believe that you can exorcise natural, fleshly desires.</p>
<p>What bothers me most about the approach that many churches take towards this issue is that it brings on so much shame and condemnation. Often people are publicly shamed, judged, and made to feel like less of a person because they struggle with desires that make them different than most others.</p>
<p>How does that accomplish the mission of the church?</p>
<p><strong>Aren&#8217;t we supposed to be messengers of God&#8217;s Grace? His Love? Forgiveness?</strong></p>
<p>One thing that struck me as I read this article about &#8216;gay exorcism&#8217; speaks to how those who struggle with these urges feel about how the church handles homosexuality&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>I ask Kevin if he is now 100 percent sure that being gay is not a sin.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not 100 percent,&#8221; he says. &#8220;It&#8217;ll always be in the back of my mind. I guess it&#8217;s the way I was raised. You don&#8217;t know how many times I heard preached that homosexuality is a sin—you&#8217;re going to burn in hell for it. It&#8217;s funny how nobody at church wanted to sit down and explain why this was happening. They just want to get rid of it, basically.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder if nobody wanted to sit down and <em>explain it</em> because they simply never took the time to try to <em>understand it</em>. Many Christians may think that it&#8217;s easier to pray it away than it is to relate to someone and talk about their life and what drives them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t pretend to understand what same-sex attraction is like, or what someone who lives with it must deal with knowing that they live with something that could alienate them from so many people.</p>
<p>But I do know that as Christians we are called to love&#8230; not judge. Does living in homosexuality mean that God loves that individual any less? No, and neither should we.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thankful that God loved me even when I didn&#8217;t deserve it. And I&#8217;ve got to believe that He loves <em>everyone</em> the same way.</p>
<p>I also know that gay and lesbian adults more actively <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/13/study-gay-and-lesbian-adults-are-more-avid-blog-readers-social-network-users/" target="_blank">seek out community</a> than most straight people. That would indicate that there&#8217;s a strong desire to connect with (and likely be accepted by) people. Isn&#8217;t that what churches are for? Then why do we insist on pushing away the very people that need us the most?</p>
<p>As I write this, I almost want to apologize to gay and lesbian people everywhere on behalf of the church.</p>
<p>If you are gay/lesbian, I&#8217;m sorry if we&#8217;ve ever put any shame on you. That&#8217;s not God&#8217;s heart. You have immeasurable value to Him. You are the apple of His eye. God loves you, and so do I.</p>
<p>And c&#8217;mon church&#8230; how can we become the instruments of God&#8217;s Love that we&#8217;ve been called to be in this area?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>This post is for The Idea Camp blogging series during </em><a href="https://www.theideacamp.com/category/sexual-orientation/" target="_blank"><em>#ICSEX Orientation Week</em></a><em>.</em></p></blockquote>

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		<title>@theideacamp gender week wrap-up [#ICSEX]</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan King</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;d first like to start with an apology. My mission trip to Haiti impaired my ability to keep up with certain aspects of this project more that I anticipated. Nonetheless, there were some incredible posts that came in! This week was GENDER WEEK, the third of the six-week series of discussions on various sex-related topics. As you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theideacamp.com"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6661" title="ICSex" src="http://bibledude.net/wp-content/uploads/ICSex_banner_300x250.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="250" /></a>I&#8217;d first like to start with an apology. My mission trip to Haiti impaired my ability to keep up with certain aspects of this project more that I anticipated.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, there were some incredible posts that came in!</p>
<p>This week was GENDER WEEK, the third of the six-week series of discussions on various sex-related topics.</p>
<p>As you look through each of the posts in this series, I hope that you see a bit of a trend emerging. At first glance it would seem that the posts are overly skewed towards the discussion of female gender roles and issues. However, I definitely learned a great deal about what it means to be a man&#8230; and yes, even (umm.. especially) while reading the posts about women.</p>
<p>Here’s a quick recap of the posts that we saw come in this week:</p>
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<li><strong><a href="http://suzielind.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/on-being-a-woman/" target="_blank">On Being a Woman</a></strong><br />
Suzie Lind kicks us off a little early by asking her readers, &#8220;What do you think it means to be a woman?&#8221;</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://suzielind.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/oh-eve/" target="_blank">Oh, Eve</a></strong><br />
Suzie Lind continues her discussion with a focus on women walking in redemption rather than walking in the fall.</li>
<li><a href="http://djchuang.com/2010/women-asian-american-christian-ministry-leaders/" target="_blank"><strong>women Asian American Christian ministry leaders</strong></a><br />
DJ Chuang discuses the impact that women (particularly Asian American women) have in the church today. While this post wasn&#8217;t tagged as being a part of this project, it is very relevant to the discussion.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com/profiles/blogs/men-become-better-men-in-the" target="_blank">Men become better men in the company of Good Men</a></strong><br />
Dan Rodriguez briefly discuses details of his workshop for #ICSEX in Las Vegas! It sounds like it&#8217;ll be a <em>very</em> interesting discussion!</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://suzielind.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/fearfully-wonderfully-made/" target="_blank">Fearfully &amp; Wonderfully Made</a></strong><br />
Suzie Lind continues her series by talking about how God used women throughout the Bible as instruments of redemption.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.sarahmarkley.com/2010/08/raising-women/" target="_blank">Raising Women</a></strong><br />
Sarah Markley talks about being a woman who is raising girls. She struggles with the question about how to teach them something that she&#8217;s still learning herself.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://accordingtosis.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/mad-men/" target="_blank">Mad Men</a></strong><br />
Suzie Lind shared this link to a post by a co-worker that seemed relevant to our #ICSEX Gender Week discussion. While this is not officially tagged as being a part of this blogging series, it provides an interesting perspective on gender roles in ministry.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://justapen.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/icsex-what-is-a-man/" target="_blank">#ICSEX – What is a Man?</a></strong><br />
Seiji Yamashita discusses his personal struggles in doing what society would say it takes to become a man, and in the processes begins to answer the questions about what it really means to be one.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://bibledude.net/2010/08/a-hermeneutic-on-gender-and-ministry-icsex/" target="_self">a hermeneutic on gender and ministry [#ICSEX]<br />
</a></strong>Dan King (me) looks to exegetical study of the scripture to help us understand controversial issues like, &#8216;women don&#8217;t talk in church&#8217;.</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.charlestlee.com/leadership/gender-preference-exclusion-or-oppression/" target="_blank">Gender Preference, Exclusion, or Oppression?</a></strong><br />
Charles Lee (our fearless @theideacamp leader) talks about being intentional about diversity, especially as it relates to including women in our work/ministry.</li>
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<p>Let’s keep this conversation going… <em>Which of these posts impacted you the most? Why? What other perspectives on gender do you think are important to share/consider?</em></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Coming up next: </strong><strong>Orientation – Week beginning Sunday, August 22nd</strong><br />
Same-sex attraction is likely one of the most controversial issues that the church deals with today. Is it okay to be gay/lesbian and be a Christian? More importantly how should the church respond to people who live with same-sex attraction? This discussion will focus on reconciliation… with the Word AND with people. This is a good opportunity to build a bridge to those who have been alienated by the church for a very long time. If you’re interested in participating in this conversation, then let us know in the comments or contact <a href="http://twitter.com/bibledude" target="_blank">@bibledude</a> on Twitter.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you enjoying this conversation? Then consider coming to !C//SEX Las Vegas on 9.27.10. <a href="https://www.theideacamp.com/register/" target="_blank">Register now</a>! And if you comment on this post, then I’ll send you a special <strong>10% discount registration</strong> code!</p>

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		<title>#haiti mission twitter updates for 2010-08-15</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan King</dc:creator>
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<li>NEW POST: #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> mission twitter updates for 2010-08-14: &#8211; NEW POST: #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> mission twitter… <a rel="nofollow" href="http://goo.gl/fb/RywTQ">http://goo.gl/fb/RywTQ</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21209986399">#</a></li>
<li>We&#8217;re loading up the bus with our bags now. One stop at a church service and then we&#8217;re off to the airport. Hard to say goodbye&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21227676987">#</a></li>
<li>It&#8217;s difficult to see some of the orphan boys tearing up as our team boarded the bus to leave. #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23hardtosaygoodbye">hardtosaygoodbye</a> #haiti <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21232938730">#</a></li>
<li>It was a wonderful church service this morning, but we&#8217;re on the bus now on the way to the airport. #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23itshardtosaygoodbye">itshardtosaygoodbye</a> #haiti <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21244944601">#</a></li>
<li>At the departure gate in the Port-au-Prince airport. Looks like a late arrival is delaying our departure about 20-30 minutes. Coming home!!! <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21253857506">#</a></li>
<li>We are on the ground in Miami now&#8230; Pulling up to the gate then through customs and baggage claim. Its good to be back in the States! <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21265005780">#</a></li>
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<li>Mmmm&#8230; There&#8217;s nothing like the smell of burning trash pit first thing in the morning. #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23theresnowastemanagement">theresnowastemanagement</a> here in #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21147221647">#</a></li>
<li>Today is our last full day here in #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> But it&#8217;s time to focus&#8230; we have one more VBS to do today. Praying that it&#8217;s fruitful! <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21147411509">#</a></li>
<li>One of our interpreters said that the voodoo in #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> is so bad that they sacrifice children up to 11-12 years old. <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21151794998">#</a></li>
<li>Our interpreter says that he knows many small children that have just disappeared, most likely for voodoo sacrifice. #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21152005597">#</a></li>
<li>Apparently there are people who have children for the sole purpose of being a voodoo sacrifice. #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21152242024">#</a></li>
<li>Our one-day VBS&#8230; The kids are really enjoying the songs that we are doing with them! #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38915773">http://tweetphoto.com/38915773</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21154331742">#</a></li>
<li>A little &#8216;indoor&#8217; volleyball for our haitian VBS. The kids (and our team) are having a blast! <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38923059">http://tweetphoto.com/38923059</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21157182311">#</a></li>
<li>One little girl who just left crafts doesn&#8217;t seem to be interested in the &#8216;volleyball&#8217; game&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38927277">http://tweetphoto.com/38927277</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21158855643">#</a></li>
<li>Wow&#8230; another 60+ salvations today at our #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> style VBS! Amazing&#8230; We are praising God for a fruitful event! <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21164625366">#</a></li>
<li>@<a class="aktt_username" href="http://twitter.com/alanrud">alanrud</a> a #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> style VBS is just a modified bible school event for the kids&#8230; Games, crafts, and teaching&#8230; lots of fun! <a class="aktt_tweet_reply" href="http://twitter.com/alanrud/statuses/21166183720">in reply to alanrud</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21166692482">#</a></li>
<li>@<a class="aktt_username" href="http://twitter.com/Crimson_Cougar">Crimson_Cougar</a> @bareknuckledawg @<a class="aktt_username" href="http://twitter.com/iamvatoni">iamvatoni</a> @delapour thanks for voodoo info. I&#8217;m in PauP about a mile or two SW of the airport. <a class="aktt_tweet_reply" href="http://twitter.com/Crimson_Cougar/statuses/21170394839">in reply to Crimson_Cougar</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21171480980">#</a></li>
<li>Several of the adult leaders on our team have been approached by moms asking us to take their child because they cannot feed them&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21175706285">#</a></li>
<li>Last night in #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> .. incredible drive through the mountains. Sorry&#8230; No pics this time&#8230; Just enjoying the ride and last moments here. <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21185792301">#</a></li>
<li>We just saw the most amazing nighttime view of port-au-prince from the top of a mountain south of the city. Beautiful #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21189032310">#</a></li>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NEW POST: #haiti mission twitter updates for 2010-08-12: &#8211; Great time of worship and prayer… http://goo.gl/fb/2J180 # another work day around the orphanage. Finishing some cool projects. #haiti # We&#8217;re using some concrete blocks from a wall damaged by the earthquake to build a fire pit for trash. #haiti http://tweetphoto.com/38685720 # The kitchen patio is [...]]]></description>
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<li>NEW POST: #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> mission twitter updates for 2010-08-12: &#8211; Great time of worship and prayer… <a rel="nofollow" href="http://goo.gl/fb/2J180">http://goo.gl/fb/2J180</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21040936032">#</a></li>
<li>another work day around the orphanage. Finishing some cool projects. #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21073847793">#</a></li>
<li>We&#8217;re using some concrete blocks from a wall damaged by the earthquake to build a fire pit for trash. #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38685720">http://tweetphoto.com/38685720</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21074245990">#</a></li>
<li>The kitchen patio is coming along well&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38686788">http://tweetphoto.com/38686788</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21074720638">#</a></li>
<li>The carpentry team was fighting over who gets to do the work. Looks like Chanler won&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38687336">http://tweetphoto.com/38687336</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21074986179">#</a></li>
<li>Everyone&#8217;s getting in the action by the school area, even the haitian kids&#8230; <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38688206">http://tweetphoto.com/38688206</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21075401171">#</a></li>
<li>prayer request: my son has gotten an infection in an insulin pump infusion site. Pray for healing and peace for my family w/ me in Haiti. <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21075926611">#</a></li>
<li>Plumbing and tile crew are finishing up the indoor kitchen complete with indoor plumbing&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38691054">http://tweetphoto.com/38691054</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21076681323">#</a></li>
<li>The trash fire pit is coming along well&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38691830">http://tweetphoto.com/38691830</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21077052330">#</a></li>
<li>We are using the big dirt pile (from earthquake cleanup) to fill a low spot in the orphan&#8217;s yard&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38708222">http://tweetphoto.com/38708222</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21084097138">#</a></li>
<li>How to hang a tire swing at an orphanage in #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> .. (a.k.a. Going out on a limb for the orphans.) <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38742803">http://tweetphoto.com/38742803</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21097202664">#</a></li>
<li>Work day done and the kids at the orphanage  are enjoying the yard and tire swing&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38756295">http://tweetphoto.com/38756295</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21102306559">#</a></li>
<li>We got a LOT of great work done around the orphanage. Glad to have these projects wrapped up before we leave! #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21102472955">#</a></li>
<li>Some of the orphan boys pointed to my face and told me &#8216;rouge&#8217;. Apparently I&#8217;ve done a good job working on my sunburn today! #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21102647530">#</a></li>
<li>Augiste dunking on Josh during some of our free time after our workday&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38759019">http://tweetphoto.com/38759019</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21103285347">#</a></li>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NEW POST: #haiti mission twitter updates for 2010-08-11: &#8211; NEW POST: #haiti mission twitter… http://goo.gl/fb/6RpFg # We are on the bus for our tour of downtown Port-au-Prince. It&#8217;s a non-ministry day, so we&#8217;re going to witness the devastation. #haiti # http://tweetphoto.com/38468032 Getting into the area most damaged by the earthquake and where people are still [...]]]></description>
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<li>NEW POST: #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> mission twitter updates for 2010-08-11: &#8211; NEW POST: #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> mission twitter… <a rel="nofollow" href="http://goo.gl/fb/6RpFg">http://goo.gl/fb/6RpFg</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20952156553">#</a></li>
<li>We are on the bus for our tour of downtown Port-au-Prince. It&#8217;s a non-ministry day, so we&#8217;re going to witness the devastation. #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20981881755">#</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38468032">http://tweetphoto.com/38468032</a> Getting into the area most damaged by the earthquake and where people are still (cont) <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tl.gd/33793g">http://tl.gd/33793g</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20983804511">#</a></li>
<li>The living conditions here are unthinkable&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38468467">http://tweetphoto.com/38468467</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20983999723">#</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38469175">http://tweetphoto.com/38469175</a> The poverty and conditions here is difficult to look at&#8230; Some on the bus are (cont) <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tl.gd/337elr">http://tl.gd/337elr</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20984352196">#</a></li>
<li>Piles of rubble still everywhere we drive by&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38469873">http://tweetphoto.com/38469873</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20984662203">#</a></li>
<li>Its hard to imagine living in something like this&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38470728">http://tweetphoto.com/38470728</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20985048548">#</a></li>
<li>It&#8217;s hard to believe that many of these structures are tombs&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38472761">http://tweetphoto.com/38472761</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20986080212">#</a></li>
<li>Some of the team seems to be having a hard time dealing with the devastation&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38473628">http://tweetphoto.com/38473628</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20986499367">#</a></li>
<li>It&#8217;s amazing to see life just happening around the rubble&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38474983">http://tweetphoto.com/38474983</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20987169292">#</a></li>
<li>More of the crumbled #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> .. Near the port&#8230; <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38489012">http://tweetphoto.com/38489012</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20993632603">#</a></li>
<li>My view from the bus as we start to drive up the coast&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38489982">http://tweetphoto.com/38489982</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20994023910">#</a></li>
<li>Life in #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> is so different than it is back in the States&#8230; <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38491114">http://tweetphoto.com/38491114</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20994479254">#</a></li>
<li>The tents are everywhere. I can&#8217;t imagine living in these in this crazy #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> heat&#8230; <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38492397">http://tweetphoto.com/38492397</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20995014798">#</a></li>
<li>Getting outside of Port-au-Prince is very beautiful in many places. Breathtaking #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Haiti">Haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38492987">http://tweetphoto.com/38492987</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20995256983">#</a></li>
<li>*cough* &#8230;apparently there aren&#8217;t emissions laws in #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Haiti">Haiti</a> At least the truck in front of us doesn&#8217;t believe in them&#8230; <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20995579299">#</a></li>
<li>Down by the water outside of Port-au-Prince. I wonder how clean it is&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38495243">http://tweetphoto.com/38495243</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/20996165799">#</a></li>
<li>Our fun spot for the afternoon&#8230; Wahoo Bay Beach&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38514214">http://tweetphoto.com/38514214</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21003741670">#</a></li>
<li>Our team photo during our beach visit on our off day&#8230; #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38533882">http://tweetphoto.com/38533882</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21012210670">#</a></li>
<li>Many of us just got done snorkeling on a reef at Wahoo Bay Beach. What an amazing way to spend part of our day &#8216;off&#8217;! #<a class="aktt_hashtag" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23haiti">haiti</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21012486985">#</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://tweetphoto.com/38538085">http://tweetphoto.com/38538085</a> It&#8217;s hard to really tell from this photo, but we&#8217;re looking at an amazing double (cont) <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tl.gd/33dtu0">http://tl.gd/33dtu0</a> <a class="aktt_tweet_time" href="http://twitter.com/bibledude/statuses/21013908908">#</a></li>
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		<description><![CDATA[Few things bother me as much as misinterpreted and misapplied scripture. And (I believe) one of the worst examples of this is around the issue of women&#8217;s role in ministry in the church. There are many that disagree with women being active in ministry, and others that would go so far as to say that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6894" title="first-century-synagogue" src="http://bibledude.net/wp-content/uploads/first-century-synagogue.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" />Few things bother me as much as misinterpreted and misapplied scripture. And (I believe) one of the worst examples of this is around the issue of women&#8217;s role in ministry in the church.</p>
<p>There are many that disagree with women being active in ministry, and others that would go so far as to say that they should be silent participants in church. Not only do I feel that this is based on a misinterpretation of the intent of the Scriptures, but it also creates a situation that forces society to question the validity and relevance of the Word in our world today.</p>
<p>First let&#8217;s look at the passages used to support this idea:</p>
<blockquote><p>The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.</p>
<p><strong><em> &#8211; 1 Corinthians 14:34-35</em></strong></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.</p>
<p><strong><em> &#8211; 1 Timothy 2:11-12</em></strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Seems pretty clear, right? I mean, Paul doesn&#8217;t even stutter when he lays outs this direction.</p>
<p>But responsible Bible interpretation isn&#8217;t as easy as just looking at these passages at face value and saying that God is trying to tell us that women should never talk in church. After all, when Paul wrote this he was writing specifically to a first century audience dealing with very specific first century issues.</p>
<p>This means that there are cultural and sociological differences that we need to consider for us to fully understand what&#8217;s happening here. We must also take these passages in their literary context by understanding how they fit into the entire writings to which they belong. So here are a couple of questions that we need to consider before we can apply these ideas to the church today.</p>
<p><strong>Who is Paul writing to and about?</strong></p>
<p>The simple answer is that he&#8217;s giving instruction to a first century church and church leader. Because these passages are about women, we should understand what first century women were like. More often than not, women in the first century would have been very uneducated. They may be very skilled in the ways of keeping the home and raising the children, but most would not have been very educated at all, but especially in the Scriptures. Many may not even know how to read, but due to the lack of availability of literature they probably wouldn&#8217;t have needed to read in the first place.</p>
<p>Therefore, it would have been very common for women to have questions when listening to a great intellectual like Paul. It would have been the modern equivalent of a fifth-grader trying to listen to an Albert Einstein lecture. So they would have had questions about what Paul was teaching&#8230; <em>LOTS</em> of questions. And who would they turn to? The passage in 1 Corinthians answers that one pretty clearly.</p>
<p><strong>Why would Paul be addressing this issue?</strong></p>
<p>Considering that these curious women would&#8217;ve had lots of questions, and would&#8217;ve been asking things like, &#8220;Hey honey, what does he mean by we are &#8216;saved by grace&#8217;?&#8221; The women&#8217;s inability to understand complex intellectual and religious concepts would&#8217;ve created quite a disturbing chatter for someone who was trying to teach (probably in pretty tight quarters). These uneducated women were interfering with Paul&#8217;s teaching! I can imagine Paul thinking, &#8220;How rude! I wish these women would just be quite for a minute! They can ask their husbands what I meant later!&#8221; Oh&#8230; he did say that&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>So what&#8217;s Paul&#8217;s intent?</strong></p>
<p>Especially considering the surrounding text for the passage in 1 Corinthians, I believe that Paul is trying to talk about respecting the service than he is trying to prove male dominance in the church. Even the passage in 1 Timothy can be interpreted as being more about order, structure, and respect, than it is about keeping women quiet.</p>
<p><strong>How does this translate for today?</strong></p>
<p>Well, first of all, women are much more educated today than they were back then. And this level of knowledge/wisdom means that chattering, confused women are not interrupting the church services today like they would have back then. And if we look closely at Paul&#8217;s intent and the state of the church today, then Paul&#8217;s word might actually apply to many men as well.</p>
<p>And with other writings (like the Book of Acts) clearly pointing out that women often had a prominent role in ministry, it makes it hard for me to believe that Paul (and God) intended for women in today&#8217;s church to remain silent and miss out opportunities to minister to others.</p>
<p><strong>What factors do you consider?</strong></p>
<p>What else do you consider when interpreting passages like these? How do you reconcile these passages with others that clearly show women as active parts of ministry? What role do you feel women play (or don&#8217;t play) in church today? Why?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>This post is for The Idea Camp blogging series during <a href="https://www.theideacamp.com/category/gender/" target="_blank">#ICSEX Gender Week</a>.</em></p></blockquote>

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