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Progressive Theo-Political Blog Bringing You The Best and Worst of Baptist Life.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default?alt=atom'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default?alt=atom&amp;start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' 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Exactly 4 years later, I&#39;ve decided to make the jump from Blogger to a Wordpress Self-Hosted blog.  You can now find me exclusively at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;www.thebigdaddyweave.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please update your bookmark.  If you use a RSS reader, please stop by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thebigdaddyweave.com&quot;&gt;www.thebigdaddyweave.com&lt;/a&gt; and click Subscribe.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/1373402248336122874/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/1373402248336122874' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/1373402248336122874'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/1373402248336122874'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/12/weve-moved.html' title='We&#39;ve Moved'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjh4lYcVNKTQodxbaFNjqm1xEDqx-IAwHVzxtOhkBIBplE1kQ1Ibbm6Wb3Ya4nRkeY46ifH1x9t6Er3YS2f6wvl8ypRlTHRDTxvs2WS8YmzCfDTJAC2nBCnfxE1pJkYrK7Cm-sy/s72-c/we-have-moved.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-5453148915355067180</id><published>2008-12-11T16:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-11T16:43:50.853-08:00</updated><title type='text'>NAE Head Richard Cizik Resigns Over Statements</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/decemberweb-only/150-42.0.html&quot;&gt;Here&#39;s the story from Christianity Today&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;text&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;text&quot;&gt;Richard Cizik resigned Wednesday night as vice president for governmental affairs of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) during a week of growing uproar over his comments that he is shifting his views on same-sex unions.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;text&quot;&gt;&quot;Although he has subsequently expressed regret, apologized, and affirmed our values, there is a loss of trust in his credibility as a spokesperson among leaders and constituencies,&quot; Leith Anderson, president of the NAE wrote to board members today. Cizik did not return calls for comment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;text&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;Cizik was a true evangelical centrist.  Truly unfortunate. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thoughts?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a side note, I do wish Richard Land &amp;amp; Company would just shut up.  During his tenure at the NAE, most of the criticism hurled at Cizik came from those outside of the NAE family.  Cizik did not represent the &quot;evangelical community.&quot;  He represented the National Association of Evangelicals - an organization that has always been less dogmatic than the fundamentalists that masquerade as &quot;evangelical leaders&quot; on TV and Radio.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/5453148915355067180/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/5453148915355067180' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/5453148915355067180'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/5453148915355067180'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/12/nae-head-richard-cizik-resigns-over.html' title='NAE Head Richard Cizik Resigns Over Statements'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-8048456180650647761</id><published>2008-12-09T13:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-09T13:59:24.069-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jon Meacham"/><title type='text'>Jon Meacham Just Doesn&#39;t Get Religion</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgudoD9pFFLCD2YfyzdTGfgIuilAgsMm96x65p88o7KJq52Gm7puypWyrFpes80TeuR__6iYI68ZES-m7AIdCBWj8arO2KnYtUA-6irbsr8wJ780UcEqOvEZJm0f1yBcljjyXN/s1600-h/Jon_Meacham.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 234px; height: 300px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgudoD9pFFLCD2YfyzdTGfgIuilAgsMm96x65p88o7KJq52Gm7puypWyrFpes80TeuR__6iYI68ZES-m7AIdCBWj8arO2KnYtUA-6irbsr8wJ780UcEqOvEZJm0f1yBcljjyXN/s320/Jon_Meacham.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5277912139286213890&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can&#39;t say that I&#39;ve ever been impressed by the theological insights of Jon Meacham.  After his recent Newsweek editorial which comes in response to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsweek.com/id/172653&quot;&gt;Lisa Miller&#39;s lousy cover story article on gay marriage,&lt;/a&gt; I&#39;m left with the conclusion that Jon just doesn&#39;t Get Religion or at least Jon doesn&#39;t get traditional Christianity.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsweek.com//id/172688&quot;&gt;Here&#39;s Meacham&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;No matter what one thinks about gay rights—for, against or somewhere in between —this conservative resort to biblical authority is the worst kind of fundamentalism. Given the history of the making of the Scriptures and the millennia of critical attention scholars and others have given to the stories and injunctions that come to us in the Hebrew Bible and the Christian New Testament, to argue that something is so because it is in the Bible is more than intellectually bankrupt—it is unserious, and unworthy of the great Judeo-Christian tradition.&lt;/blockquote&gt;First, as my readers now, I&#39;m no fan of the Religious Right.  Nor am I a theologically conservative Christian.  Politically, I&#39;m quite friendly to gay rights and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;civil&lt;/span&gt; marriage equality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Meacham&#39;s conclusion in the paragraph above is just downright offensive.  Argument from the Bible is the worst kind of fundamentalism? What?  Fundamentalists are not the only type of Christian who appeal to biblical authority. More than a few theological progressives and liberals throughout history and even today make arguments based on biblical injunctions on a regular basis especially in the political arena.  Has Meacham not read Dr. King on Jesus&#39; Sermon on the Mount or Walter Rauschenbusch on the Hebrew Prophets?  Would Meacham argue that these great modern-day prophets are intellectually bankrupt because they too argued that &quot;something is so because it is in the Bible&quot; ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To suggest that one is a fundamentalist simply because their argument invokes Scripture is just nonsense.  Meacham doesn&#39;t seem to get religion nor does he seem to take religion very seriously.  For Meacham, the Bible is simply a book - a book that offers no insight into how we should live our lives and deal with problems in the 21st century.   And, if you disagree with Meacham&#39;s extremely low view of Scripture, you&#39;re an intellectually bankrupt fundamentalist.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/8048456180650647761/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/8048456180650647761' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8048456180650647761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8048456180650647761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/12/jon-meacham-just-doesnt-get-religion.html' title='Jon Meacham Just Doesn&#39;t Get Religion'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgudoD9pFFLCD2YfyzdTGfgIuilAgsMm96x65p88o7KJq52Gm7puypWyrFpes80TeuR__6iYI68ZES-m7AIdCBWj8arO2KnYtUA-6irbsr8wJ780UcEqOvEZJm0f1yBcljjyXN/s72-c/Jon_Meacham.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-7869746145084324704</id><published>2008-12-04T15:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-04T16:40:30.955-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rick Warren"/><title type='text'>Rick Warren Backs Assassination of Ahmadinejad</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_12/015925.php&quot;&gt;From The Washington Monthly:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;WARREN ENDORSES HANNITY&#39;S WARMONGERING....&lt;/b&gt; Pastor Rick Warren has a reputation for being far more stable and grounded than religious right leaders and TV preachers like Pat Robertson, but it&#39;s worth remembering that he&#39;s not exactly a moderate.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Last night, on Fox News, Sean Hannity insisted that United States needs to &quot;take out&quot; Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Warren said he agreed. Hannity asked, &quot;Am I advocating something dark, evil or something righteous?&quot; Warren responded, &quot;Well, actually, the Bible says that evil cannot be negotiated with. It has to just be stopped.... In fact, that is the legitimate role of government. The Bible says that God puts government on earth to punish evildoers. Not good-doers. Evildoers.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/12/04/warren-stopping-evil/&quot;&gt;Watch the clip and read the full transcript here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since this clip hit the blogosphere, Warren&#39;s people have claimed that Rick was simply citing Romans 13.  I agree with Romans 13 that every person is &quot;subject to the governing authorities.&quot;  I also agree that the government has a duty to keep &quot;law and order.&quot;  This obviously means that those who break the law will face punishment.  But that wasn&#39;t Warren&#39;s point.  Warren was responding to Hannity&#39;s assertion that &quot;We need to take [Ahmadinejad] out.&quot;  Warren agreed to this assertion with his &quot;YES&quot; response.  And then Warren defended Hannity&#39;s notion that we need to Assassinate the Iranian President by offering a theological thought or two.  And who said that Rick Warren was an evangelical centrist???&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Gushee did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;The Future of Faith in American Politics&lt;/span&gt; (2008), Baptist ethicist David Gushee writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Rick Warren has become the most influential pastor in the United States.  His two Purpose Driven books (on churches and personal life) have sold tens of millions of copies and created Warren disciples al over the American landscape.  Tens of thousands stream into his Saddleback Church every weekend.  He is constantly in the news.  By now it is probably fair to say that if Billy Graham has a successor in American religious life, it is Rick Warren.  Thus, it is no small matter that Warren has moved his ministry and his message squarely into the evangelical center.&lt;/blockquote&gt;No offensive to David Gushee, but if Rick Warren is considered a leader of the Evangelical Center - count me out.  Guys like Warren give true centrists a bad name.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/7869746145084324704/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/7869746145084324704' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/7869746145084324704'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/7869746145084324704'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/12/rick-warren-backs-assassination-of.html' title='Rick Warren Backs Assassination of Ahmadinejad'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-5465843557898419288</id><published>2008-12-03T16:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-03T17:01:54.969-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Black Baptists"/><title type='text'>Council of Baptist Pastors Push Detroit Loan Deal</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcZOnaZpU_JPxCU7F48QsJ1udqb81bsgvs_rUMuMjsTV9QL4jlgPQxhxaQQh4d4TXzMfFAtyQuTd1AXYFb3KmFghy4xZWxTfB68EIiE3oJzcW4MR6I1JQtwTl0lW2jyoKUnNcj/s1600-h/bilde.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 216px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcZOnaZpU_JPxCU7F48QsJ1udqb81bsgvs_rUMuMjsTV9QL4jlgPQxhxaQQh4d4TXzMfFAtyQuTd1AXYFb3KmFghy4xZWxTfB68EIiE3oJzcW4MR6I1JQtwTl0lW2jyoKUnNcj/s320/bilde.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5275729811632045906&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This is from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freep.com/article/20081202/BUSINESS01/81202071&quot;&gt;Detroit Free Press:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;;font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:85%;&quot;  &gt;&lt;span style=&quot;;font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:180%;&quot;  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;    Automakers’ woes hit black community, Baptist pastors say&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    By JOHN GALLAGHER&lt;br /&gt;    FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Minority auto suppliers are being disproportionately hurt by the auto industry implosion, and that is devastating Detroit’s African-American communities, the city’s influential Council of Baptist Pastors said today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    At a news conference in Hamtramck, Council President Rev. Dr. Oscar King called on Congress to approve a loan package for Detroit automakers, saying minority suppliers and the African-American communities that rely on them need the American auto industry to survive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    “This is not a gift. We are not asking for anything that is not ours,” King said of the federal assistance funds for the automakers. “Taxes go up to the federal government. We’re asking for a reasonable redistribution. Give us our money back so that we may use it to provide for the stability of this faltering economy.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    William Pickard, chairman and chief executive officer of Global Automotive Alliance LLC, a Detroit-based group of minority automotive suppliers, said minority suppliers have been hurt as the automakers and major suppliers have “stretched” their payments to companies lower down the chain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    “I suspect if you had 10 suppliers here, you would have at least 11 different scenarios,” Pickard said. “And indeed the Big 3 have stretched their suppliers, and I’m sure Tier 1 and Tier 2 have done the same thing. We probably were more highly leveraged as an industry than our white counterparts, so it affects us more, but throughout the spectrum, you are having delayed payments.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Asked about yet more cutbacks to come as the Detroit automakers try to qualify for federal assistance, Pickard issued a dire prediction.&lt;br /&gt;    “I think the reduction will take on many different forms, but surely the smaller you are, the more vulnerable you are,” he said. “We all know there’s been a tremendous decrease in the number of suppliers. And I would say this time next year, we’ll probably lose another 20, 30%.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;;font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:85%;&quot;  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;;font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:85%;&quot;  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baptisttimesinc.com/about.htm&quot;&gt;The Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit and Vicinity&lt;/a&gt; was founded nearly fifty years ago with the purpose of &quot;offering sound leadership in every field of community endeavor.&quot;  Comprised of hundreds of Baptist pastors in the Detroit area, the Council of Baptist Pastors is regarded as a highly influential organization.  On Thursday, December 4, the Council of Baptist Pastors along with Christian, Jewish and Muslim leaders will &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Detroit-Archbishop-Convenes-Interfaith-Leaders/story.aspx?guid=%7B2A5BCA0D-68AA-4830-AB21-400F3E606D46%7D&quot;&gt;convene&lt;/a&gt; in Detroit to discuss the economic crisis.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/5465843557898419288/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/5465843557898419288' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/5465843557898419288'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/5465843557898419288'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/12/council-of-baptist-pastors-push-detroit.html' title='Council of Baptist Pastors Push Detroit Loan Deal'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcZOnaZpU_JPxCU7F48QsJ1udqb81bsgvs_rUMuMjsTV9QL4jlgPQxhxaQQh4d4TXzMfFAtyQuTd1AXYFb3KmFghy4xZWxTfB68EIiE3oJzcW4MR6I1JQtwTl0lW2jyoKUnNcj/s72-c/bilde.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-1576342414382834057</id><published>2008-12-01T21:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T22:14:03.270-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Baptist Women in Ministry"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ella Pearson Mitchell"/><title type='text'>Rev. Dr. Ella Pearson Mitchell (1917-2008)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8lkyCdPLR_UHfmB0ryrr6Hgk4dU5rBAm3iJlnLzau39nuNpu1VOi6JER_JZn9Re_-D-_cG7qNnGN4Xb4QjeJcNiZ2ZAMZpRF4zFC86ffCU8-AXpSRlRCUNRu3DM-1byG6TJq0/s1600-h/ella.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 157px; height: 250px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8lkyCdPLR_UHfmB0ryrr6Hgk4dU5rBAm3iJlnLzau39nuNpu1VOi6JER_JZn9Re_-D-_cG7qNnGN4Xb4QjeJcNiZ2ZAMZpRF4zFC86ffCU8-AXpSRlRCUNRu3DM-1byG6TJq0/s320/ella.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5275067488358269938&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc-usa.org/news/2008/20081126a.htm&quot;&gt;From American Baptist News Service:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;DR. ELLA PEARSON MITCHELL, DEAN OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN PREACHERS, DIES&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt; &lt;strong&gt;VALLEY FORGE, PA (ABNS 11/26/08) —&lt;/strong&gt; Rev. Dr. Ella Pearson Mitchell, a distinguished religious educator, renowned preacher, and celebrated author, died November 19 in Atlanta, GA. She was 91.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Ella Pearson Mitchell was one half of an acclaimed ministry duo that included her husband of 64 years, Dr. Henry H. Mitchell. She was a pioneer in African-American preaching and religious education, and her reputation as a promoter and encourager of women in ministry, especially in the area of homiletics, earned her the title, “dean of African-American women preachers.” Outspoken on the subject, she once declared, “I am convinced that women were ordained to be in ministry from the very beginning of time.”  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Dr. Mitchell compiled and edited six books featuring women and preaching. Most notable is her five-volume series, “Those Preaching Women,” begun in 1985. In 2008, Judson Press published &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Those-Preaching-Women-Multicultural-Collection/dp/081701537X&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Those Preaching Women: A Multicultural Collection&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, co-edited by Dr. Mitchell and Dr. Valerie Bridgeman Davis.      &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxTpk-nE2RzS8nVl9-aDKK-gbTGPjk5J-YL8pm5AbwnYn3GreVnFXP50vvJI0kMNtm7cpInwxz8s3JV8Wme6wW-2FHrZG369H7vYEn5711PmlRxHgy1sogbC7ORHITcM5aA9-c/s1600-h/ellaandhenry.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 200px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxTpk-nE2RzS8nVl9-aDKK-gbTGPjk5J-YL8pm5AbwnYn3GreVnFXP50vvJI0kMNtm7cpInwxz8s3JV8Wme6wW-2FHrZG369H7vYEn5711PmlRxHgy1sogbC7ORHITcM5aA9-c/s320/ellaandhenry.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5275069606876135506&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ella and Henry Mitchell, known for their dialogues in the pulpit, published their sermons in &lt;i&gt;Fire in the Well&lt;/i&gt;. They also wrote &lt;i&gt;Together for Good: Lessons from Fifty-Five Years of Marriage&lt;/i&gt; (also Judson Press).  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; A longtime member of American Baptist Churches USA, Dr. Mitchell served as president of the Board of Educational Ministries from 1959 to 1973.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Longtime friend and fellow American Baptist Dr. Aidsand F. Wright-Riggins III, executive director of National Ministries, said of her passing, “Dr. Ella Mitchell is a true Christian ‘shero’ of our time. She and Henry modeled black church ministerial leadership for a generation of African-American preachers. She certainly helped to shape my identity as a preacher, reminding me of my roots in the black church. Ella Mitchell also represented hope that women, and African American women in particular, could respond affirmatively to the call of God on their lives. Their overwhelming response is her legacy.”  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Dr. Mitchell broke down many barriers, achieving a number of “firsts” for women in ministry. She was the first female dean of Sisters Chapel, Spelman College, Atlanta, GA, and the first woman to preach at Hampton Ministerial Conference, Hampton, VA. She earned a doctor of ministry degree from Claremont School of Theology in Claremont, CA.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Dr. Mitchell was the second African-American woman to graduate from New York’s&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUeb2lbrCNuNaj6sYjAQ0nxALZVLYKWwyWVqlnqm24L02qK1DKfcXlKceGqvU5mIFBaFbcW6jsZefmJW4YYaVZW-9meMoWBAEtNJBn6DaXHVAPkpQ-nMQC-P6ber-eVoZ_QvtU/s1600-h/image_8021870.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 203px; height: 234px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUeb2lbrCNuNaj6sYjAQ0nxALZVLYKWwyWVqlnqm24L02qK1DKfcXlKceGqvU5mIFBaFbcW6jsZefmJW4YYaVZW-9meMoWBAEtNJBn6DaXHVAPkpQ-nMQC-P6ber-eVoZ_QvtU/s320/image_8021870.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5275070309748981346&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Union Theological Seminary, which honored Drs. Ella and Henry Mitchell in February with their 2008 Trailblazer award, given to distinguished black graduates.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; As an educator, she taught Religious Education at Berkeley Baptist Divinity School (now American Baptist Seminary of the West), Berkeley, CA, and served as associate professor of Christian Education, Proctor School of Theology at Virginia Union University, Richmond, VA. She also taught Homiletics as visiting professor at Atlanta’s Interdenominational Theological Center from 1988-2001.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Dr. Mitchell’s passing has been received by colleagues, friends and admirers with a mixture of sadness and fond remembrances of her more than 60 years in ministry.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc-usa.org/news/2008/20081126a.htm&quot;&gt;Continue reading here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The funeral will be held Tuesday, December 2nd at the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta where Dr. Ella Pearson Mitchell and her husband Dr. Henry Mitchell have been members for many years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ajc.com/search/content/metro/obits/stories/2008/11/29/ella_mitchell_obituary.html&quot;&gt;tribute&lt;/a&gt; published in Monday&#39;s Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Dr. Ella Pearson Mitchell became an ordained minister in 1978 shortly after the death of her mother, who had been opposed to the idea.  She was ordained at Allen Temple Baptist Church in Oakland, California and preached at churches around the country, including Atlanta&#39;s Ebenezer Baptist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;For more, see Pam Durso&#39;s 2005 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.centerforbaptiststudies.org/bulletin/2005/august.htm#Baptist%20Women%20Ministers&quot;&gt;Baptist Studies Bulletin article&lt;/a&gt; on Dr. Ella Pearson Mitchell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/1576342414382834057/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/1576342414382834057' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/1576342414382834057'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/1576342414382834057'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/12/rev-dr-ella-pearson-mitchell-1917-2008.html' title='Rev. Dr. Ella Pearson Mitchell (1917-2008)'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8lkyCdPLR_UHfmB0ryrr6Hgk4dU5rBAm3iJlnLzau39nuNpu1VOi6JER_JZn9Re_-D-_cG7qNnGN4Xb4QjeJcNiZ2ZAMZpRF4zFC86ffCU8-AXpSRlRCUNRu3DM-1byG6TJq0/s72-c/ella.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-3111196640347763126</id><published>2008-11-24T11:18:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-24T11:50:07.758-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Catholic Church"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="First Baptist Jacksonville"/><title type='text'>A Southern Baptist War on the Catholic Church &quot;Cult&quot;</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh9WskzYZWsbW_gQKI3LyShFK13LyVA7QGDwg1uGEQjkzpEl6SKerWR-GsaSKG2jDKdQtlcEEX66LQnoYJF8uBzlB_Nqkq74AjeCsLqBDnYrSPoLcI1zKb1Bad0k9P4n5QySH2M/s1600-h/11122008-JSmyrl_small.JPG&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 213px; height: 320px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh9WskzYZWsbW_gQKI3LyShFK13LyVA7QGDwg1uGEQjkzpEl6SKerWR-GsaSKG2jDKdQtlcEEX66LQnoYJF8uBzlB_Nqkq74AjeCsLqBDnYrSPoLcI1zKb1Bad0k9P4n5QySH2M/s320/11122008-JSmyrl_small.JPG&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5272313707378802514&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Baptist_Church_of_Jacksonville&quot;&gt;Meet Jim Smyrl &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jim Smyrl is the &quot;Executive-Pastor of Education&quot; at the 28,000-member First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Florida.  FBC Jacksonville is the third-largest church in the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest megachurches in America.  As Executive -Pastor of Education, Smyrl is no lowly staff member.  He&#39;s been dubbed &quot;Second in Command&quot; at FBC as Pastor Mac Brunson&#39;s &quot;right-hand man.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over on the Official Blog of FBC Jacksonville, has announced a series of upcoming posts on the &quot;Catholic Cult.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#39;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fbcjaxblog.com/jimsmyrl/2008/11/catholic-cult-series/&quot;&gt;announcement&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This series will examine the cultish nature of Catholicism.  The primary reasons we are unwilling to consider Catholicism as a cult include: we have good friends that are Catholics, the history of the Catholicism makes it difficult to perceive them as a cult since most people view cults as quick up starts with a charismatic leader, and the lack of understanding of the one true grid by which to measure the validity of a movement. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Today, Monday - November 24, Smyrl posted the first installment in this &quot;Catholic Cult&quot; series.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#39;s a snippet:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Why even address the issue of Catholicism? Doesn’t such a critical view of a particular religious group bring greater division among moral people in a society? Won’t I have a difficult time witnessing to Catholics if we refer to them as a cult? All are questions that represent a myriad of interrogatives that will no doubt be leveled against this series. However, isn’t it the historical precedence of evangelicals, coming from a biblical mandate (&lt;a href=&quot;http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=50&amp;amp;passage=1+John+4%3A1-3&quot; class=&quot;bibleref&quot; title=&quot;NKJV 1John 4:1-3&quot; target=&quot;_new&quot;&gt;I John 4:1-3&lt;/a&gt;), to examine the culture, even religious groups, under the light of Scripture? And how will you ever lead a Catholic out of his sin and into the only sufficient grace of Christ if you do not clearly point out his sin? Surely we do not believe that we can lead anyone to Christ by generalizing or minimizing his sin.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Smyrl concludes his post by laying the foundation for his definition of a cult, based on a four-criteria test cult test.  Read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fbcjaxblog.com/jimsmyrl/2008/11/catholic-cults-part-1/&quot;&gt;rest here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This isn&#39;t the first time that Smyrl has referred to the Catholic Church as a Cult.  On November 14, Smyrl &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fbcjaxblog.com/jimsmyrl/2008/11/voting-yourself-out-of-fellowship/&quot;&gt;described&lt;/a&gt; a Catholic Priest from South Carolina as a &quot;Cult Leader.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not really sure how a reasonable, educated person responds to kooks like Smyrl.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, we&#39;ll keep an eye on his Catholic Cult blog series throughout the week.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/3111196640347763126/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/3111196640347763126' title='33 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3111196640347763126'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3111196640347763126'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/southern-baptist-war-on-catholic-church.html' title='A Southern Baptist War on the Catholic Church &quot;Cult&quot;'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh9WskzYZWsbW_gQKI3LyShFK13LyVA7QGDwg1uGEQjkzpEl6SKerWR-GsaSKG2jDKdQtlcEEX66LQnoYJF8uBzlB_Nqkq74AjeCsLqBDnYrSPoLcI1zKb1Bad0k9P4n5QySH2M/s72-c/11122008-JSmyrl_small.JPG" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>33</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-8359192613206607555</id><published>2008-11-19T11:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-19T16:07:15.256-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="New Baptist Covenant"/><title type='text'>Wake Forest To Host New Baptist Covenant Gathering</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgKl5lHFV9dKRSoQJyIHukZwx_kIveZK3rP4LjkDjEeD6YsYK4qf_lq1k4z8wPzory3qyQPGYJLWawKmbShqM0tEEiTvJGHGjzGYVqtqP-6Nkk3oLVQGqOvfbjZ81llSMQho_a-/s1600-h/2008.11.18.b1.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 243px; height: 320px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgKl5lHFV9dKRSoQJyIHukZwx_kIveZK3rP4LjkDjEeD6YsYK4qf_lq1k4z8wPzory3qyQPGYJLWawKmbShqM0tEEiTvJGHGjzGYVqtqP-6Nkk3oLVQGqOvfbjZ81llSMQho_a-/s320/2008.11.18.b1.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5270461084864770274&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4 Regional Gatherings of the New Baptist Covenant have now been announced for 2009.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2009 marks the 400th Anniversary of Baptists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here they are:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Wake Forest University (April 24-25, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wfu.edu/news/release/2008.11.18.b.php&quot;&gt;Press Release&lt;/a&gt;, Southeast Region)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Wake Forest University School of Divinity will host the Southeast regional gathering of the New Baptist Covenant, April 24-25, 2009.  Maya Angelou, Reynolds Professor of American Studies at Wake Forest, will deliver the opening address and President Jimmy Carter will present the closing address.  The theme of the conference is “This is God’s Year to Act: Responding to a Society in Crisis.”  The conference is free and open to the public....A Friday evening dinner sponsored by Baptists Today magazine will honor James Dunn, Resident Professor of Christianity and Public Policy at the School of Divinity, with a lifetime achievement award. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  Norman, Oklahoma (August 6-7, &lt;a href=&quot;http://newbaptistcovenant.blogspot.com/2008/10/press-release.html&quot;&gt;Press Release,&lt;/a&gt; Midwest Region)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Steering Committee for the New Baptist Covenant Midwest Region is pleased to announce that the New Convention Center in Norman, Oklahoma has been selected for the first ever meeting of the Midwest Region of the New Baptist Covenant. The meeting will be held on August 6-7, 2009. Former President Jimmy Carter has agreed to speak at our meeting. We will be celebrating the 400th anniversary of the founding of the Baptist denomination.&lt;/blockquote&gt;3. Kansas City, KS (April 2-4, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baptistbordercrossing.org/&quot;&gt;Press Release&lt;/a&gt;, Midwest Region)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In June representatives from Kansas City area Baptist groups, including the National Baptist Convention USA, the National Baptist Convention of America, the Progressive National Baptist Convention, American Baptist Churches USA, the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, the Southern Baptist Convention, the Baptist General Convention of Missouri, the General Baptist Convention, met for conversation about how to further the efforts begun by the New Baptist Covenant movement in Atlanta earlier this year. The New Baptist Covenant movement, initiated by former President Jimmy Carter, has encouraged regional groups to pursue similar efforts.  As a result of the June conversation, the Baptist Border Crossing Network has been formed. A task force made up of representatives of the various Baptist groups is planning a Midwest regional gathering of the Baptist family. The Baptist Border Crossing event will be April 2-4, 2009, at Pleasant Valley Baptist Church in Liberty, Missouri. Participants from all Baptist groups in Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois, Arkansas, and Nebraska are invited to participate in this historic event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Plenary speakers for the Baptist Border Crossing event include Tony Campolo, David Coffey, David Goatley, and Carolyn Ann Knight. The task force is pleased to announce that President Jimmy Carter will also participate in the event. Breakout Sessions will be led by facilitators from the various Baptist groups and will deal with issues such as poverty, peacemaking, religious liberty, and diversity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;4.  Birmingham, Alabama (January 31, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alabamacbf.org/templates/System/details.asp?id=23139&amp;amp;PID=620846&amp;amp;Style&quot;&gt;Press Release&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;BIRMINGHAM - Birmingham will host a regional gathering of the New Baptist Covenant on Saturday, January 31&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;, 2009. The event will be held at 16&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; Street Baptist Church and the Birmingham Civil Rights Institute.  Former President Jimmy Carter will be present to teach a Bible study and provide a keynote address in the sanctuary of 16&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; Street Baptist Church.&lt;/blockquote&gt;See also Brian Kaylor, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=11331&quot;&gt;Regional New Baptist Covenant Meetings Planned&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; EthicsDaily.com.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/8359192613206607555/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/8359192613206607555' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8359192613206607555'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8359192613206607555'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/wake-forest-to-host-new-baptist.html' title='Wake Forest To Host New Baptist Covenant Gathering'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgKl5lHFV9dKRSoQJyIHukZwx_kIveZK3rP4LjkDjEeD6YsYK4qf_lq1k4z8wPzory3qyQPGYJLWawKmbShqM0tEEiTvJGHGjzGYVqtqP-6Nkk3oLVQGqOvfbjZ81llSMQho_a-/s72-c/2008.11.18.b1.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-8556740669506455287</id><published>2008-11-13T21:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-13T22:17:39.170-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Baptist General Convention of Texas"/><title type='text'>A Third Baptist State Convention In Texas?</title><content type='html'>The Baptist General Convention of Texas traces its roots back to the Baptist State Convention of Texas which was formed in 1848.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;150 years later, a group of disgruntled fundamentalists separated from the BGCT and formed the Southern Baptists of Texas Convention in 1998.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now, apparently, there is talk of a Third Baptist State Convention here in Texas.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Blogger Rick Davis, pastor of FBC Brownwood and former BGCT employee, writes in a blog post titled &lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aintsobad.typepad.com/aintsobad/2008/11/bgct-a-third-convention-a-new-way.html#comments&quot;&gt;BGCT: A Third Convention? A New Way?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There is some talk around the state about a third state convention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I am not making this up. A few of us have heard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Let me say, I can make an argument for pooling and dispensing funds in a different way. It is almost impossible for me to make an argument for a new convention. My mind cannot wrap around another denomininational apparatus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ken Coffee, retired Associate Director of the BGCT State Missions Commission, recently was defeated by Carolyn Strickland, 728-668, in an election for First Vice-President of the Baptist General Convention of Texas.  Responding on Davis&#39;s blog to a question regarding the source of these rumors, &lt;a href=&quot;http://aintsobad.typepad.com/aintsobad/2008/11/bgct-a-third-convention-a-new-way.html#comment-139002340&quot;&gt;Coffee writes&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I can tell you it is not Baptist princes that talked to me about it, nor anyone who wanted a cushy job. It was people who are tired of being manipulated by those who have an agenda to take the BGCT to national status, inviting disenfranchised moderates from everywhere to join us. I talk to a lot of good lay people out here in West Texas, where large sums of C.P. money come from. Lots of these folks are tired of the fighting and the unchristian rhetoric that has arisen between some in the BGCT and the SBC. You may think it is hilarious, but these folks had a serious concern prior to this year&#39;s BGCT meeting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Guess we&#39;ll have to wait and see how this all plays out.  Three state conventions would be, um, historic.  It is Texas, though.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/8556740669506455287/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/8556740669506455287' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8556740669506455287'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8556740669506455287'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/third-baptist-state-convention-in-texas.html' title='A Third Baptist State Convention In Texas?'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-3350893151852862561</id><published>2008-11-13T17:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-13T17:43:47.921-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Barack Obama"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Calvary Baptist Church"/><title type='text'>D.C. Pastor Extends Invitation to The Obamas</title><content type='html'>Amy Butler, the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Washington D.C., has written Michelle Obama a blog letter inviting The First Family to visit Calvary on a Sunday morning.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;You can read her &lt;a href=&quot;http://talkwiththepreacher.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/dear-michelle/&quot;&gt;Dear Michelle letter here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If The Obamas were to make Calvary their new church home, they would not be the first First Family to do so.  Warren G. Harding, the 29th President of the United States, regularly attended Calvary Baptist Church from 1921 until his death in 1923.  Harding attended every Sunday except when the Lord&#39;s Supper was served.  Though quite devout, Harding explained that he felt &quot;unworthy to receive communion.&quot;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;On Sunday mornings, Calvary Baptist was the place to be in D.C..  Folks from all over came to Calvary in order to gawk at the President and the First Lady.  The sanctuary was so packed that tickets had to be issued to Calvary members.  After ticketed members were seated, the general public was allowed to in.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Supreme Court Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes was also a faithful member of Calvary for nearly 40 years.  Before becoming Chief Justice, Hughes served as Harding&#39;s Secretary of State.  While the Governor of New York (1907-1910), Hughes served as the first President of the Northern Baptist Convention.  I recently wrote a paper on Hughes&#39;s contributions to the religious liberty arena - a man whose thought was rooted deep in the Baptist tradition.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/3350893151852862561/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/3350893151852862561' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3350893151852862561'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3350893151852862561'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/dc-baptist-pastor-extends-invitation-to.html' title='D.C. Pastor Extends Invitation to The Obamas'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-7212125182294044318</id><published>2008-11-12T11:17:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-12T11:57:27.991-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="North Carolina Baptists"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Texas Baptists"/><title type='text'>The Demonization of Moderates: NC Baptists Oust CBF</title><content type='html'>Messengers to the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina decided today that Churches will no longer be allowed to support the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship through the BSCNC beginning in 2010.  Check the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblicalrecorder.org/&quot;&gt;Biblical Recorder&lt;/a&gt; for the story later today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One NC Baptist fundamentalist had this to say about the decision over on his blog, &lt;a href=&quot;http://rebekah1.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/the-late-ted-stone-would-be-proud-nc-baptist-vote-to-remove-cbf/&quot;&gt;Southern Baptists in NC&lt;span style=&quot;font-style:italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The reason this amendment passed is that NC Baptist are Southern Baptist they are not CBF Baptist.  (This statement is something the Baptist General Convention of Texas would do well to heed.) NC Baptist are trying their best to say that we do not want anything to do with CBF.  If there are churches that desire to be CBF then have at it.  However, do not try to tell the world that you are Southern Baptist and be part of an organization that was organized as a result of being disgruntled with doctrines Southern Baptist believed and held dear.  What does this mean for BSCNC?  It means that the churches that were bypassing the convention are now going to need to stop.  It means that we are in this together and thus we need to support the budget together. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, there needs to be a call now to the head offices in Cary that NC Baptist have clearly stated we are not CBF. Thus, an employee at the convention offices should be a member of a NC Baptist church not one that is dually aligning themselves with the CBF and the BSCNC.  We had the clarion call today during the budget vote that we will not even give you an opportunity to send funds through us to the CBF.  We certainly should be able to say we want you attending a BSCNC church.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And here is a response to the BSCNC&#39;s decision from a moderate North Carolina Baptist.  The blog post is appropriately titled &lt;a href=&quot;http://cbfportal.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/demons/&quot;&gt;Demons&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I am sitting in my office after spending the last day and a half at the Baptist State Convention of NC.  I witnessed a historical moment, and it breaks my heart.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Baptist State Convention has, for about 18 years, provided 4 giving plan options for churches to contribute their missions giving through the state convention.  One of those plans, plan C, provided for 10% of our total giving to the state to go to CBF national.  For years now, the multiple giving plans have been under attack, with the primary focus being on plan C.  In the last couple of years, the state had determined that the 10% apportioned to CBF would not count as NC Cooperative Program giving.  Last year, the state formed a committee to investigate a single giving plan that would preserve multiple options.  That committee brought its recommendation today.  There would be a single giving plan, and churches could check a box on their giving form if they desired a portion of their proceeds to go to CBF.  An amendment was brought from the floor to remove this check box.  After a secret ballot vote, the amendment passed.  After years of efforts, plan C was officially dead.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This isn’t what broke my heart.  Anybody with a brain has been able to see this handwriting on the wall for years.  There are going to be those who argue, as there were today, that churches can just send their money directly to CBF and negatively designate the SBC out of their missions giving.  CBF churches are still welcome in the Baptist State Convention of NC, they will say.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are lying.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those who spoke in favor of the amendment based their arguments on 2 points:  CBF doesn’t affirm the inerrancy of Scripture, and CBF isn’t true Baptist.  There were calls for the convention to “take a stand”.  And so they did.  They thought they were taking a stand against some faceless organization.  Instead, they took a stand against Christian men and women I serve and work with every day.  They called me, my church members, and my peers in ministry enemies.  They demonized us.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is what breaks my heart.  They made people I love and respect into demons in order to get what they wanted.  I could have lived with a decision that said, “We are SBC, and we want a plan that says we are SBC only.”  I would not have agreed with it, but I could have respected it.  I can’t respect this.  Especially when I know it is going to be followed by somebody saying, “We aren’t kicking you out.  You can still send your money to us.” &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When the announcement of the vote was made, there was no comment or response.  A couple of folks clapped, though not as many as I honestly expected.  The President just moved on to the next item of business.  The convention moved on and left behind Christ-loving, Christ-serving people who had just been accused of not being true Baptist or even true Christians, people and churches who have been a part of the state convention for decades.  I’m sure some will say it was just an example of the convention saying, “Get behind me, Satan.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Funny, Jesus said those words to Peter, the rock upon which he would build his church. &lt;br /&gt;To those CBF pastors, laypeople, and churches who winced at being made to feel like demons, my heart hurts with you and for you.  My prayer for all of us is that we will be able to put aside the hurt and anger that rises in our belly at being called a demon so that we might fully concentrate on being the rocks upon which Christ will build His kingdom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt; Texas Baptists should pay attention to the fundamentalist from North Carolina cited above and the actions taken today by the fundamentalists in the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina.  What happened today in North Carolina is just one of MANY examples which demonstrate that Cooperation with Fundamentalists is not possible.  It just ain&#39;t.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Fundamentalism by definition seeks power and control.  First, the state convention cuts the CBF option off.  Second, the state convention decides to tell its employees which Baptist churches are OK to attend and join.  Power and Control. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We can be nice and drop the fundamentalist tag and just call &#39;em Southern Baptists - as if a good many of those Southern Baptists are not fundamentalists.  That what some folks here in Texas are doing.  They pretend that somehow moderates and fundamentalists can work together under the same roof.  They pretend that somehow a Baptist organization can be supportive of both Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and George W. Truett Theological Seminary.  They pretend that a Baptist organization can support programs which affirm Women In Ministry while also accommodating an institution that wants to keep women out the pulpit and in the home; baking cookies, cleaning, and birthing babies, Quiverfull style. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Naive?  You Bet&#39;cha.  That&#39;s putting it charitably.  Why any person who eschews fundamentalism would want a better relationship with a Baptist group completely controlled by fundamentalists is beyond my comprehension.  Some Texas Baptists need to pay attention to what happened in North Carolina and Georgia this week.  They need to read a book or two.  A primer on fundamentalism is apparently needed.  Or, just keep that head in the sand.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The ONLY Way to Cooperate With a Fundamentalist Is To Obey Him.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/7212125182294044318/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/7212125182294044318' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/7212125182294044318'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/7212125182294044318'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/demonization-of-moderates-nc-baptists.html' title='The Demonization of Moderates: NC Baptists Oust CBF'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-3141912433107682012</id><published>2008-11-12T10:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-12T11:01:25.044-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Georgia Baptist Convention"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Julie Pennington-Russell"/><title type='text'>Georgia Baptists To Oust Women Pastors, FBC Decatur</title><content type='html'>Here&#39;s the story from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ajc.com/living/content/living/stories/2008/11/11/georgia_baptists_women.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab&quot;&gt;Atlanta Journal-Constitution:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;  style=&quot;font-size:large;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;  style=&quot;font-size:large;&quot;&gt;Georgia Baptists take aim at women-led churches&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Georgia Southern Baptists approved a policy Tuesday aimed at diminishing the role of churches led by women pastors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The policy is a broad one and provides the Georgia Baptist Convention the ability to refuse donations from entities out of sync with Southern Baptist beliefs. There is only one church that currently falls into that category: the 2,700-member Decatur First Baptist headed by the Rev. Julie Pennington-Russell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only men can hold the position as head pastor, but individual churches are independent and can call whom they wish as pastor, according to a Southern Baptist statement of faith. Decatur called Pennington-Russell in 2007.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last year, there was talk of breaking ties with Decatur First Baptist over Pennington-Russell, said J. Robert White, executive director of the convention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He and other leaders believed the new policy would be a more prudent move. If convention executives take action, that would allow Decatur First to remain associated with Southern Baptists, but would not accept donations from it. Churches whose gifts are not accepted lose their organization voting privileges and the ability to give to Southern Baptist missions and help programs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Churches with women in lesser roles, such as deacons or youth ministers, would not be affected, White said. Church conference leaders also could turn down gifts from questionable sources, such as alcohol distributors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pennington-Russell was out of town and did not attend the convention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;  style=&quot;font-size:large;&quot;&gt;“I kept waiting for someone from the Georgia Baptist Convention to call us or come visit with me and other leaders of our church to inform us that these matters were being discussed,” she said in an e-mail.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Decatur First Baptist has been in the convention since 1862 and provided leadership and millions of dollars in support over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I assumed that a 146-year relationship was worth, at very least, a personal conversation,” she said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“To me, the saddest ripple effect will be that some members of our church who have faithfully supported Southern Baptist ministries and missionaries through the years, often with money given from their monthly Social Security checks, will have to be told that the [convention] doesn’t welcome their support any longer.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;The headquarters for the GBC is in Norcross.  Robert White didn&#39;t have the decency to drive over to Decatur, from one Atlanta suburb to another.  No phone call.  No e-mail.  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Robert White has no shame.  Some of us have known that for years now.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Not surprising that this has happened in Georgia.  Once you go fundamentalist, you don&#39;t go back.  The Georgia Baptist Convention became a thoroughly fundamentalist convention more than a few years ago.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;John Pierce of the Georgia-based &lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Baptists Today&lt;/span&gt; has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://bteditor.blogspot.com/2008/11/isolation-and-irrelevancy.html&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; titled &lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Isolation and Irrelevancy &lt;/span&gt;on this same subject.  Pierce writes:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In another deliberate and continuous move toward isolation and irrelevancy, the Georgia Baptist Convention (GBC) approved a policy yesterday that gives leadership the right to reject cooperation with congregations deemed to be out of line with Southern Baptists&#39; ever-narrowing doctrine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/3141912433107682012/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/3141912433107682012' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3141912433107682012'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3141912433107682012'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/georgia-baptists-to-oust-women-pastors.html' title='Georgia Baptists To Oust Women Pastors, FBC Decatur'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-8428657815772499520</id><published>2008-11-05T13:14:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-05T13:44:31.105-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Baylor University"/><title type='text'>Baylor U. Students Hang A Noose, Light a Fire</title><content type='html'>The Baylor Lariat has produced this statement from Baylor University Interim President David Garland.  Read below or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baylor.edu/lariat/news.php?action=story&amp;amp;story=54314&quot;&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; Baylor police reported today on three disturbing incidents that occurred on our campus yesterday. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Late Tuesday afternoon we were notified of a single clothesline rope that had been seen in a tree on campus. The individuals who discovered it believed it had the appearance of a noose. Baylor police are now in possession of the rope and continue to speak with students who observed the rope in the tree and are gathering additional information about the origin of the rope. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Last evening, police investigated a small fire in a barbecue pit adjacent to Brooks Flats in which it was alleged several Obama/Biden campaign signs had been burned. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Finally, police were called late last evening to a disturbance outside Penland Hall, where a shouting match had occurred between two small groups of white and African-American students. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;These events are deeply disturbing to us and are antithetical to the mission of Baylor University. We categorically denounce and will not tolerate racist acts of any kind on our campus. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Further, we are committed to maintaining the safety and unity of our campus community. We wish to celebrate and strengthen inclusiveness, understanding and acceptance of all members of the Baylor family. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As they have thus far, Baylor police will respond quickly and decisively to any additional situations of this nature. Faculty, staff and students with information pertaining to any of the incidents we&#39;ve described are urged to contact Baylor police at 710-2222. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Baylor has specific policies regarding expectations of civility and respect on our campus. Those policies, which we endorse and enforce, can be found at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php?id=39242&quot;&gt;http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php?id=39242&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Faculty, staff and students also participate in on-going weekly meetings hosted by our department of multicultural activities called &quot;Frankly Speaking&quot; in which issues of the day are discussed in a respectful and civil manner. The goal of &quot;Frankly Speaking&quot; is for participants to feel comfortable expressing their opinions and beliefs within a safe environment. The meetings are held in the Bill Daniel Student Center each Tuesday from 3:30 to 4:30 p.m., and members of the Baylor community are invited to participate. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We believe that the incidents on our campus yesterday were irresponsible acts committed by a few individuals. As a community we condemn these terribly unfortunate events that do not represent the values we share as members of the Baylor family.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;Not sure what to make of this statement from Baylor&#39;s Interim President.  When racists go public with their racism, I prefer to hear a little tough talk - maybe the author of the statement should have mentioned somewhere along the way that Baylor&#39;s mission is a distinctly Christian mission.  And Baylor University is a distinctly Christian University, an historically Baptist University.  There are plenty of reasons why our Christian faith demands that such racist acts must be denounced.  Such religious reasons were unfortunately noticeably absent from the statement above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No surprise that racism is alive and well on the campus of Baylor University.  Racism is alive and well on the campuses of both Christian Universities and state Universities like my alma mater, University of Georgia.  One need only stroll down Greek Row in Athens on Game-Day and see all the Confederate Flags to know that deep racial divisions still exist on college campuses.  Every school has their hardcore racists and every school has a larger group of racists who express their racism in much more subtle ways. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although, in light of these three incidents, I&#39;d say that Baylor might need to get-in-the-game and address these problems that clearly exist within the community.  Not sure that a one-hour voluntary, multi-cultural roundtable discussion that most students have probably never heard of is getting the job done.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/8428657815772499520/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/8428657815772499520' title='25 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8428657815772499520'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8428657815772499520'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/baylor-u-students-hang-noose-light-fire.html' title='Baylor U. Students Hang A Noose, Light a Fire'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>25</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-3320703499786093958</id><published>2008-11-04T17:23:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-04T17:23:21.536-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Live Commenting w/ Map</title><content type='html'>&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/48ff995c49a30ff2/4910f586fbf0c58d/4910927e9b16f2d0/df220d52/widget.js&quot;&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/3320703499786093958/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/3320703499786093958' title='29 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3320703499786093958'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3320703499786093958'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/live-commenting-w-map.html' title='Live Commenting w/ Map'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>29</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-7293894830437117986</id><published>2008-11-03T16:33:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-03T17:45:55.885-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Southern Baptist Blogosphere On Obama</title><content type='html'>In recent days, more than a few Southern Baptist pastors in the blogosphere have made it clear that true Christians can not cast their ballot for &quot;Barack Hussein Obama.&quot;  These Southern Baptist pastors are not alone in their pronouncements.  Recently, Danny Akin - President of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary - penned a blog post entitled &lt;a href=&quot;http://betweenthetimes.com/2008/10/14/why-faithful-evangelicals-cannot-vote-for-barack-obama/&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Why Faithful Evangelicals Cannot Vote For Barack Obama&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, here&#39;s a collection of quotes from Southern Baptist pastors/bloggers.  No further analysis needed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it any wonder that America is in the trouble we find ourselves in? How could any Pastor support Obama? How could any Christian support Obama?....IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!      &lt;a href=&quot;http://sbctoday.blogspot.com/index.html#5044931966026062767&quot;&gt;Tim Guthrie of SBC Today blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sbctoday.blogspot.com/index.html#5044931966026062767&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Southern Baptist pastor &lt;a href=&quot;http://sbctoday.blogspot.com/index.html#8879514670181040480&quot;&gt;C.B. Scott offers&lt;/a&gt; three reasons to Guthrie&#39;s question on how a Christian could support Obama:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1. They are lost.&lt;br /&gt;2. They are backslidden.&lt;br /&gt;3. They have a low view of Scripture and are unsound theologically.&lt;/blockquote&gt;On a different blog, &lt;a href=&quot;http://fromthehillsandhollers.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccainpalinobamabidenjesus.html&quot;&gt;C.B. Scott opines&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama is the most dangerous man in America.  He is a greater threat to this nation than is Bin Laden....Obama will kill this country as we have lived free in it like no other before....Go get all your family no matter how distant, far removed or the nature of the feud and get them to go vote McCain-Palin.  We must defeat the Obamas, Carters, Clintons and &lt;span style=&quot;font-size:130%;&quot;&gt;Big Daddy Weaves&lt;/span&gt; or they will destroy this nation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;On the &lt;a href=&quot;http://fromthehillsandhollers.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccainpalinobamabidenjesus.html&quot;&gt;same blog&lt;/a&gt;, a Southern Baptist named Jake Barker writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama=antichrist&lt;/blockquote&gt;Popular SBC blogger Bart Barber, pastor of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fbcfarmersville.com/leadership.asp#&quot;&gt;FBC Farmersville, Texas&lt;/a&gt; writes in a recent post entitled &lt;a href=&quot;http://praisegodbarebones.blogspot.com/2008/11/if-barack-hussein-obama-wins.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;If Barack Hussein Obama Wins&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#39;t believe that Barack Obama is a whit closer to God than Nebuchadnezzar was...The United States of America may very well deserve precisely Barack Hussein Obama. This may be the election where God lets us have just that....So, God might have lots of good reasons to hand this election to Obama. I would still be sinning to vote for him, but God can simultaneously expect me to vote for McCain and plan for an Obama victory.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And from another &lt;a href=&quot;http://praisegodbarebones.blogspot.com/2008/11/if-barack-hussein-obama-wins.html&quot;&gt;SBC pastor&lt;/a&gt; on Obama&#39;s Christian faith:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;His life testimony says he is not a biblical Christian. And since there is not other kind of Christian to be, the great evidence is he is not one.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And this Southern Baptist woman believes the election of Barack Obama will cause her family to lose, well everything.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://selahvtoday.typepad.com/selahv/2008/11/if-obama-gets-elected-what-will-happen-to-me.html&quot;&gt;She write&lt;/a&gt;s:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The pittance of 500 or 600 dollars a year that ol&#39; Obama the Wealth Spreader plans to rip-off from all of the small-business owners in America will most likely cause my husband to lose his little part-time job and put us into the market of relying solely on my husband&#39;s disability Social Security of $ 15,850.  Then it would take away our home because the tax increases on my daughter&#39;s and husband&#39;s small construction business.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And finally, these &lt;a href=&quot;http://praisegodbarebones.blogspot.com/2008/11/if-barack-hussein-obama-wins.html&quot;&gt;wise words&lt;/a&gt; from a Southern Baptist pastor from Tennessee:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Barack Hussein Obama&lt;br /&gt;Barack Hussein Obama&lt;br /&gt;Barack Hussein Obama.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/7293894830437117986/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/7293894830437117986' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/7293894830437117986'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/7293894830437117986'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/11/southern-baptist-blogosphere-on-obama.html' title='The Southern Baptist Blogosphere On Obama'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-5930442251494726580</id><published>2008-10-28T12:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-28T13:17:40.742-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Baylor University Hires Bush&#39;s Faith-Based Czar</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhXcH3GYKZu7sNQbkwhW3GdckmqO9dyB0ZSXBR62rDLWCOWH34CHDBmcXcft0_Wae2rhHf5KcN61D_38ry4y7kHeFs0ZA1vaVbiGNAbgBdkSdUAywHByd9QjrpgdhB-Tpgcjvue/s1600-h/hein.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 233px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhXcH3GYKZu7sNQbkwhW3GdckmqO9dyB0ZSXBR62rDLWCOWH34CHDBmcXcft0_Wae2rhHf5KcN61D_38ry4y7kHeFs0ZA1vaVbiGNAbgBdkSdUAywHByd9QjrpgdhB-Tpgcjvue/s320/hein.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262291456693829330&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Baylor University announced yesterday that Bush&#39;s Faith-Based Czar - Jay Hein - had been hired as Distinguished Senior Fellow and director of the Program for Faith and Service at Baylor&#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.isreligion.org/&quot; target=&quot;_new&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Institute for Studies of Religion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (ISR).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#39;s a blurb from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baylor.edu/pr/news.php?action=story&amp;amp;story=54004&quot;&gt;press release&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In this capacity, Hein will lead ISR&#39;s effort in promoting cutting-edge approaches to social problems through faith-based organizations. &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;I cannot think of place better positioned to be a global leader not only in generating new ideas about the development and launch of new faith based approaches to need, but ISR is already recognized as a national leader in promoting, supporting and conducting empirical research on the efficacy of faith-based initiatives, and joining the team was an obvious next step,&quot; Hein said. &quot;That is why I am so excited to join Baylor.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Before joining Baylor, Hein was deputy assistant to President George W. Bush and director of the  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/fbci/&quot; target=&quot;_new&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; from August 2006 until September 2008. In this role, Hein worked to implement President Bush&#39;s compassion agenda by engaging public-private partnerships with faith- and community-based social service organizations across the United States and around the globe. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The Press Release continues to state that &quot;during his tenure in the White House, Jay Hein brought enormous leadership, credibility and stability to the faith-based initiative.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From a Baptist perspective, it&#39;s slightly disturbing to see the PR department of a Baptist University promote the Faith-Based Initiative.  Just sayin.  But then again, when it comes to the faith-based initiative, Baylor University has been very much at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baylor.edu/pr/bitn/news.php?action=story&amp;amp;story=47786&quot;&gt;center of things&lt;/a&gt;.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/5930442251494726580/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/5930442251494726580' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/5930442251494726580'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/5930442251494726580'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/baylor-university-hires-bushs-faith.html' title='Baylor University Hires Bush&#39;s Faith-Based Czar'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhXcH3GYKZu7sNQbkwhW3GdckmqO9dyB0ZSXBR62rDLWCOWH34CHDBmcXcft0_Wae2rhHf5KcN61D_38ry4y7kHeFs0ZA1vaVbiGNAbgBdkSdUAywHByd9QjrpgdhB-Tpgcjvue/s72-c/hein.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-2289125764131483073</id><published>2008-10-26T00:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-26T00:46:46.755-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Richard Land"/><title type='text'>SBC Ethics Guru Dick Land Goes Anti-Vasectomy</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6In4s-kGsSyjc2ZqVhTmMXaUl_qIoRAEQi_wwwHO07-jVLzZapenA_zaEaNd0QMUrsCZ75OpNzEV-2jKyAgrrjNwgdEMwj4rVbyYWrxyRLskNEYdIYuU8FS24LHbrrucckxSx/s1600-h/vasectomy.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 304px; height: 320px;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6In4s-kGsSyjc2ZqVhTmMXaUl_qIoRAEQi_wwwHO07-jVLzZapenA_zaEaNd0QMUrsCZ75OpNzEV-2jKyAgrrjNwgdEMwj4rVbyYWrxyRLskNEYdIYuU8FS24LHbrrucckxSx/s320/vasectomy.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5261363178951911666&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I never realized that the Southern Baptist Convention had taken a position on the Vasectomy until I read this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abpnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=3586&amp;amp;Itemid=53&quot;&gt;quote&lt;/a&gt; from Southern Baptist ethics guru Richard Land:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Southern Baptist Convention is not opposed to the use of birth control within marriage as long as the methods used do not cause the fertilized egg to abort and &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:130%;&quot;&gt;as long as the methods used do not bar having children all together&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;unless there&#39;s a medical reason the couple should not have children,&quot; he told Dallas television station WFAA.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Good gracious.  Land definitely puts the kook in kooky.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/2289125764131483073/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/2289125764131483073' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/2289125764131483073'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/2289125764131483073'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/sbc-ethics-guru-dick-land-goes-anti.html' title='SBC Ethics Guru Dick Land Goes Anti-Vasectomy'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6In4s-kGsSyjc2ZqVhTmMXaUl_qIoRAEQi_wwwHO07-jVLzZapenA_zaEaNd0QMUrsCZ75OpNzEV-2jKyAgrrjNwgdEMwj4rVbyYWrxyRLskNEYdIYuU8FS24LHbrrucckxSx/s72-c/vasectomy.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-6412190874973865496</id><published>2008-10-20T11:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-21T21:45:15.727-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ebenezer Baptist Church"/><title type='text'>Turmoil at Ebenezer Baptist Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;It seems a bit of turmoil is brewing at the historic church where the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. served as co-pastor alongside Daddy King from 1960 until his death in 1968.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here&#39;s a snippet from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2008/10/19/ebenezer_1020_web1.html&quot;&gt;Atlanta Journal-Constitution story&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;A handful of church members protested Sunday morning in front of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.historicebenezer.org/Home.html&quot;&gt;Ebenezer Baptist Church&lt;/a&gt;, decrying the ouster of the historic church’s choir director and demanding the Rev. Raphael Warnock step down as senior pastor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The six demonstrators held placards reading “Warnock Lies” and “Bring Back Dr. Uzee Brown,” a reference to the recently departed choir director who heads the Department of Music at Morehouse College.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One protester, former choir member Gloria Bell, was handcuffed and taken away by National Park Service rangers in front of the church where she was baptized more than 50 years ago.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;The protestors are insisting that the pastor has shaken up the church staff without regard to the feelings of some longtime members.  They also are accusing the pastor of refusing to share the church&#39;s finances with them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If we&#39;re to believe the Deacon chairman who is quoted,  this is much ado about nothing.  Although, the pastor did apparently address the controversy during the 8am service before the protestors began their sidewalk protesting.  So, it seems that turmoil is indeed brewing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the short quote from the pastor is what I find most troubling.  From the AJC article:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Warnock addressed the controversy during the 8 a.m. service, telling worshipers that while they might not understand everything he does, they must trust in his plans for the future. “Any effort to plant the seeds of dissension in the church is by definition a demonic effort,” he said to cheers from the congregation. “I’m glad that the devil has no power here.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This Pastor as Supreme Ruler mentality is not atypical in Baptist churches these days.  A Baptist pastor can create a vision, a plan for the future.  But that Baptist pastor needs the congregation to first approve his/her vision before it is implemented.  If the congregation is not involved in the decision-making process, why even keep the name &quot;Baptist&quot; on the sign out front?  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further, the implication that those who dare voice dissent are engaged in a &quot;demonic effort&quot; is ridiculous.  The pastor of such a historic church should have more respect for the right to dissent.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#39;m not sure that taking to the streets to protest your pastor is the best way to dissent.  But at these large Baptist churches which are Pastor-Ruled or Staff-Ruled and less than transparent, what option are the members really left with?  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Whether in the streets or in the blogosphere, I think its clear that members of these big Baptist churches will continue to make public their disagreements with their pastor. &lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/6412190874973865496/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/6412190874973865496' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/6412190874973865496'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/6412190874973865496'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/turmoil-at-ebenezer-baptist-church.html' title='Turmoil at Ebenezer Baptist Church'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-3973259647237726749</id><published>2008-10-19T21:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-19T21:18:21.229-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Colin Powell"/><title type='text'>Colin Powell On Patriotism and Muslim-Americans</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgukbtQFaNTwQSm0HrBWPLymf-Qa2-eYPe2ilR0EygveAMZQXKUqtbYUctUnFe8QPZpwsCvlnsA8rnLHMb-Ng8YpOa12AaDa4B7X_jmBvAu1Vs7wGlienfbrJ4MCjnZvClRcd3t/s1600-h/080929_slideshowplaton16_p465.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgukbtQFaNTwQSm0HrBWPLymf-Qa2-eYPe2ilR0EygveAMZQXKUqtbYUctUnFe8QPZpwsCvlnsA8rnLHMb-Ng8YpOa12AaDa4B7X_jmBvAu1Vs7wGlienfbrJ4MCjnZvClRcd3t/s320/080929_slideshowplaton16_p465.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5259082641015210034&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;printableContent&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m also troubled by, not what Senator McCain says, but what members of the party say. And it is permitted to be said such things as, “Well, you know that Mr. Obama is a Muslim.” &lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p&gt;Well, the correct answer is, he is not a Muslim; he’s a Christian. He’s always been a Christian. &lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p&gt;But the really right answer is, what if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer’s no, that’s not America. &lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p&gt;Is there something wrong with some seven-year-old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she could be president? &lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p&gt;Yet, I have heard senior members of my own party drop the suggestion, “He’s a Muslim and he might be associated terrorists.” This is not the way we should be doing it in America.&lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p&gt;I feel strongly about this particular point because of a picture I saw in a magazine. It was a photo essay about troops who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. &lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p&gt;And one picture at the tail end of this photo essay was of a mother in Arlington Cemetery, and she had her head on the headstone of her son’s grave. And as the picture focused in, you could see the writing on the headstone. And it gave his awards -- Purple Heart, Bronze Star -- showed that he died in Iraq, gave his date of birth, date of death. He was 20 years old. &lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p&gt;And then, at the very top of the headstone, it didn’t have a Christian cross; it didn’t have the Star of David; it had crescent and a star of the Islamic faith. And his name was Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan, and he was an American. He was born in New Jersey. He was 14 years old at the time of 9/11, and he waited until he can go serve his country, and he gave his life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Colin Powell on Meet The Press&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quote taken from Meet the Press &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002976656&quot;&gt;transcript&lt;/a&gt;.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/3973259647237726749/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/3973259647237726749' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3973259647237726749'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/3973259647237726749'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/colin-powell-on-patriotism-and-muslim.html' title='Colin Powell On Patriotism and Muslim-Americans'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgukbtQFaNTwQSm0HrBWPLymf-Qa2-eYPe2ilR0EygveAMZQXKUqtbYUctUnFe8QPZpwsCvlnsA8rnLHMb-Ng8YpOa12AaDa4B7X_jmBvAu1Vs7wGlienfbrJ4MCjnZvClRcd3t/s72-c/080929_slideshowplaton16_p465.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-5063503060673707315</id><published>2008-10-14T09:48:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-14T23:45:24.912-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Politics of Jesus &amp; Religious Liberty</title><content type='html'>My friend (gosh I sound like McCain) Nathan Finn, a professor at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, spoke last week at First Baptist Church of Durham, North Carolina at The Politics of Jesus conference.  The conference was sponsored by the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina.  Finn&#39;s lecture was titled &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://owenstrachan.com/2008/10/13/the-politics-of-jesus-message-six-nathan-finns-the-pulpit-and-the-public-square-some-observations-from-the-ministry-of-charles-haddon-spurgeon/&quot;&gt;The Pulpit and the Public Square: Some Observations from the Ministry of Charles Haddon Spurgeon&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can read Finn&#39;s lecture &lt;a href=&quot;http://owenstrachan.com/2008/10/13/the-politics-of-jesus-message-six-nathan-finns-the-pulpit-and-the-public-square-some-observations-from-the-ministry-of-charles-haddon-spurgeon/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  Here&#39;s a snippet:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Now by assuming we all agree in principle to the separation of church and state, I am under no illusion that we would all agree as to the application of this concept. Some might even object to the language of church-state separation because of the way that various anti-faith agendas have co-opted the phrase and used it to undermine traditional values that many of us hold dear....The fact is American evangelicals have never marched in lock-step when it comes to applying the First Amendment, perhaps because there has never been one single understanding of what church-state separation actually means. At least two major views have been articulated by evangelicals, both of which have been ably defended by some Baptists. Some evangelicals argue for what might be called an accomodationist understanding of church-state separation. Most accomodationists argue that the government should accomodate religious beliefs and practices, provided that it does not show favoritism to a particular sect or belief. Isaac Backus is the most famous Baptist proponent of this view. Accomodationists tend to argue that the Constitution is positive in its assessment of religion and that the primary concern of the First Amendment is to guard against a state-established church. We might say that contemporary accomodationists tend to read the “non-establishment” clause of the First Amendment through the lens of the “free-exercise” clause. Though I confess that I cannot offer any quantifiable evidence, it appears to me that the majority of present-day politically engaged evangelicals tend toward an accomodationist understanding of church-state separation.[v]&lt;/blockquote&gt;Finn begins by stating his assumption that all of the Southern Baptists in the room &quot;agree in principle to the separation of church and state&quot; noting that not everyone in the room would agree &quot;as to the application of this concept.&quot;  I&#39;m glad that a modern-day Southern Baptist is still willing to use the phrase.  Finn states that &quot;American evangelicals have never marched in lock-step when it comes to applying the First Amendment, perhaps because there has never been one single understanding of what church-state separation actually means.&quot;  This is very true.  Church-State expert Douglas Laycock has written at least a few articles on the &quot;Many Meanings of Separation.&quot;  Finn continues:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;At least two major views have been articulated by evangelicals, both of which have been ably defended by some Baptists. Some evangelicals argue for what might be called an accomodationist understanding of church-state separation. Most accomodationists argue that the government should accomodate religious beliefs and practices, provided that it does not show favoritism to a particular sect or belief. Isaac Backus is the most famous Baptist proponent of this view. Accomodationists tend to argue that the Constitution is positive in its assessment of religion and that the primary concern of the First Amendment is to guard against a state-established church. We might say that contemporary accomodationists tend to read the “non-establishment” clause of the First Amendment through the lens of the “free-exercise” clause. Though I confess that I cannot offer any quantifiable evidence, it appears to me that the majority of present-day politically engaged evangelicals tend toward an accomodationist understanding of church-state separation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite the present popularity of the accomodationist approach, there have always been some evangelicals who have argued for what might be called a strict separationist understanding of church-state relations. Most strict separationists argue that the government should be completely neutral concerning religious beliefs and practices, neither supporting nor harming any particular sect or belief.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The problem here is that so-called &quot;accommodationists&quot; are a mixed-bunch.  There is DEFINITELY more than one &quot;type&quot; Accommodationist especially in the evangelical world.  Further, Finn&#39;s definition of the &quot;Accommodationist&quot; position is EXTREMELY vague.  Separationists such as myself also believe that government should accommodate religious beliefs and practices as long as the state remains neutral.  Most separationists especially in Baptist life have consistently been advocates of policies such as the Equal Access Act which accommodate the religious beliefs and practices of students in the public school system.  In light of Antonin Scalia&#39;s screwy decision in Oregon v. Smith, Baptist separationists supported the Religious Freedom Restoraction Act (alongside those from all corners of the political spectrum) as a means of accommodating the religious beliefs and practices of those who belonging to a minority sect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, the popular view opposite of &quot;Accommodationism&quot; (which is a category that seems to be rarely used these days in church-state scholarship) is not &quot;Strict Separationism.&quot;  Again, there are many meanings of &quot;separation.&quot;  Carl Esbeck&#39;s often cited typology of church-state relations claims that there are 5 views: Strict Separationism, Pluralistic Separationism, Institutional Separationism,  Nonpreferentialism and Restorationism.  Oddly, Finn cites Esbeck&#39;s popular typology in a footnote by fails to utilize that typology in his lecture.  Instead, he focuses on the so-called &quot;strict separationist understanding of church-state relations.&quot;  Many Baptists believe that &quot;the government should be completely neutral concerning religious beliefs and practice, neither supporting nor harming any particular sect or belief.&quot;  Few are &quot;strict separationists.&quot;  This is a weak and incomplete definition of &quot;strict separationism.&quot;  Seriously, what prominent Baptists or Baptist organizations could honestly wear this &quot;strict separationist&quot; label?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Esbeck, who Finn cites, describes strict separationists as wanting not only a separation of church and state but also a separation of religion from public life.  Thus who are these &quot;many evangelicals&quot; who hold to strict separationism.  In Baptist life, I am not aware of any groups or individuals (maybe one or two) who advocate a separation of religion and politics or religion from public life.  Baptist religious liberty advocates like James Dunn repeatedly said during the 70s, 80s, and 90s that religion and politics will mix, should mix and must mix.  Dunn&#39;s view as articulated above has been the prevailing view among Baptist separationists in recent decades.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Later in the lecture, Finn opines:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In my opinion it is a great tragedy that over the past couple of generations a good many evangelicals, including many of my fellow Baptists, have advocated positions that are closer to the People for the American Way or the ACLU than the framers of the Constitution, all in the name of preserving religious liberty. These misguided evangelicals have at times lent support to the anti-religion agenda, seemingly unaware (or at least unconcerned) that they are actually contributing to a climate that is poisoned against religious arguments and conservative moral convictions. One cannot help but think that a combination of party politics and poor education has much to do with evangelicals who attack religious freedom in the name of defending religious freedom. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Working alongside liberal advocacy organizations does not make one a liberal nor does it mean that a person&#39;s position is wrong.  Richard Land has on more than a few occasions promoted policies through coalition work alongside liberals and secularists.  That&#39;s how stuff gets done in Washington.  After Scalia&#39;s atrocious decision in Oregon v. Smith, the Baptist Joint Committee led by Oliver Thomas put together an extremely diverse group of religious organizations to help pass the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.  To pass this extremely important piece of religious freedom-protecting legislation, the Southern Baptist Convention joined hands with the ACLU and People for the American Way.  A Tragedy Indeed!  Actually, it was tragic that the Religious Right&#39;s darling Supreme Court Justice, Antonin Sclia, wrote the opinion which made RFRA necessary.  Talk about a tragedy...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speaking of the Framers of the Constitution, I&#39;m pretty sure that the Chief Framer, James Madison, was a strong proponent of the concept of government neutrality toward religion and nonreligion - thus fitting Finn&#39;s vague definition of a &quot;strict separationist.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/5063503060673707315/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/5063503060673707315' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/5063503060673707315'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/5063503060673707315'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/politics-of-jesus-religious-liberty.html' title='The Politics of Jesus &amp; Religious Liberty'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-8174378449807920937</id><published>2008-10-13T18:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-13T18:04:03.116-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Dorothy Patterson"/><title type='text'>Dressed for Service: A Message from Dorothy Patterson</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYdhcxgw7cFKkBzkw-5T2GoTJUwxGxuxndukU_2hHr-mbgPwSaIk76C52s3-EW5E-HESw0H8Qls2kwOpcp7Pcx5T3Zf28T7J0Q7GHd_VlfE7O8JMADBD2kDPmyVLibKWHX2scW/s1600-h/846.dpatterson.jpg.image.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYdhcxgw7cFKkBzkw-5T2GoTJUwxGxuxndukU_2hHr-mbgPwSaIk76C52s3-EW5E-HESw0H8Qls2kwOpcp7Pcx5T3Zf28T7J0Q7GHd_VlfE7O8JMADBD2kDPmyVLibKWHX2scW/s320/846.dpatterson.jpg.image.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5256808968226206242&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;September 30, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Graduates:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How excited the President and I are to be a part of this last semester of your work for a hard-earned degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary!  We encourage you to remain faithful and commit yourself to the very best semester ever!  I am writing to let you know about a program very special to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Through our faithful members of Women’s Auxiliary, we have underwritten a program that enables us to provide for selected women students and student wives a new “head-to-toe” outfit for graduation and for going out to new assignments throughout the nation and even to the ends of the earth.  These outfits are selected for Sunday worship and other celebratory services. This is not a monetary award but a mentoring experience.  After sacrificing personal needs throughout the years of study, student wives and women students come to completely understand the true meaning of “I don’t have a thing to wear!”  Shopping days are set, and members of our Women’s Auxiliary, under the direction of Mrs. Karen Collett, will accompany those selected for this honor on a wonderful shopping trip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you would like to nominate your wife or if you are a single woman student who would like to request consideration for this very special opportunity, please direct your nominations or applications to the office of Mrs. Karen Collett.  Our committee will consider every request, and you will be notified accordingly.  The women selected will be asked to be present for taking pictures and also for modeling their outfits at our President’s Club fall event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Attached is the application which includes detailed instructions.  May God bless you as you complete the course!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maranatha,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dorothy Kelley Patterson, First Lady</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/8174378449807920937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/8174378449807920937' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8174378449807920937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8174378449807920937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/dressed-for-service-message-from.html' title='Dressed for Service: A Message from Dorothy Patterson'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYdhcxgw7cFKkBzkw-5T2GoTJUwxGxuxndukU_2hHr-mbgPwSaIk76C52s3-EW5E-HESw0H8Qls2kwOpcp7Pcx5T3Zf28T7J0Q7GHd_VlfE7O8JMADBD2kDPmyVLibKWHX2scW/s72-c/846.dpatterson.jpg.image.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-4495759831013558024</id><published>2008-10-12T11:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-12T11:39:47.936-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="John Lewis"/><title type='text'>John Lewis: McCain and Palin Playing With Fire</title><content type='html'>From my former boss, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/john_lewis.html&quot;&gt;Congressman John Lewis&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;What I am seeing reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse. George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights. Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama... &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all. They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/4495759831013558024/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/4495759831013558024' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/4495759831013558024'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/4495759831013558024'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/john-lewis-mccain-and-palin-playing.html' title='John Lewis: McCain and Palin Playing With Fire'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-2412051785726446894</id><published>2008-10-09T17:53:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-10T01:09:44.619-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="gay marriage"/><title type='text'>Gay Marriage and Religious Liberty: Emerging Conflicts</title><content type='html'>Here are a few more interesting findings from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://faithinpubliclife.org/content/faps/&quot;&gt;Faith in Public Life poll &lt;/a&gt;on Young Adults and the Election: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Younger white evangelicals strongly oppose abortion rights but are less conservative and more supportive of same-sex marriage than older evangelicals.&lt;/b&gt;  Young white evangelicals are strongly opposed to abortion rights, with two-thirds saying abortion should be illegal in all or most cases. Yet, less than a majority (49%) of younger evangelicals identify as conservative, compared to nearly two-thirds (65%) of older evangelicals.  Among young evangelicals, a majority favor either same-sex marriage (24%) or civil unions    (28%), compared to a majority (61%) of older evangelicals who favor no legal recognition of gay couples’ relationships.&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;msolistparagraph&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Generation gap on same-sex marriage is large and increasing. &lt;/b&gt;Nearly half (46%) of young adults say gay couples should be allowed to marry, compared to only 29% of Americans overall. Over the last two years, support for same-sex marriage among young adults has jumped 9 points (from 37% to 46%), and the generation gap has nearly doubled. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;msolistparagraph&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;msolistparagraph&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;In my opinion, this is a positive statistic.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When this subject comes up, I make no secret that I am in favor of extending legal recognition to those in same-sex relationships.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s nice to see that among evangelicals, I am not alone and actually with the majority!&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I’m inclined to agree with Baptist ethicist David Gushee who recently wrote:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;“If we are right in drawing a link between making good laws and loving our neighbors, what then does neighbor love require in relation to the homosexual neighbors who seek marriage or a similar status?”&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;msolistparagraph&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;msolistparagraph&quot;&gt;For me and a majority of young evangelicals, the answer is to support policies that help end gay bashing, respect gay civil rights and show genuine Christian charity toward homosexuals.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;b&gt;Addressing religious liberty concerns strongly increases support for same-sex marriage. &lt;/b&gt;When respondents were provided with an assurance that “no church or congregation would be required to perform marriages for gay couples,” support for same-sex marriage increased by 14 points in the general population and among younger adults.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  Let me throw this out there first:  I&#39;m currently working on several papers - one of which is explores the very real emerging conflicts between same-sex marriage and religious liberty.  The problem with the finding above is the implication that all or even most religious liberty concerns can actually be addressed with the assurance that &quot;no church or congregation would be required to perform marriages for gay couples.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;First, it is absolutely ludicrous to assert that the legalization of same-sex marriage will result in pastors being forced to perform such ceremonies.  Ain’t gonna happen.&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Nonetheless, there are a host of church-state conflicts that are likely to emerge as a result of more states following the lead of &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Massachusetts&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:State&gt; and &lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;California&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:State&gt;.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Conflicts have already emerged between gay rights and religious liberty which affect housing, employment, places of public accommodation, medical and pharmacy services, commercial licensing, government funding, access to government property, freedom of speech, and religion clubs in public schools and universities.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Some scholars fear that tax exemptions will be politicized and efforts will be made to revoke the tax exemptions of churches that aren’t gay-friendly.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, other scholars sense that as long as “historically important churches refuse to recognize gay marriages,” it remains highly unlikely that any executive-level government official will attempt to travel down that path.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Same-Sex-Marriage-Religious-Liberty-Conflicts/dp/074256326X&quot;&gt;As legal scholars from the left, right and center recently demonstrated&lt;/a&gt;, the conflict between same-sex marriage and religious liberty is truly unavoidable.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Solutions are never easy.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But, I believe, such conflicts can largely be avoided or dealt with through religious exemptions.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As gay-rights laws are enacted, religious exemptions must be granted.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Failure to grant religious exemptions will greatly hurt our First Freedom and ultimately elevate the principle of nondiscrimination over religious freedom.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;        &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;There is another solution to this same-sex marriage – religious liberty conflict that I prefer and I am currently exploring in my paper.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I call it the “Tony Campolo Solution.”&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Tony has long argued that “government should get out of the marrying business completely.”&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Centrist legal scholars like Douglas Laycock and Oliver Thomas have recently advocated “separating church and state in marriage” in order to reduce conflict over same-sex marriage.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Both men would like to separate legal from religious marriage in law and in public understanding.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Marriage is both a religious institution and a religious relationship AND a legal institution and a legal relationship.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Laycock points out that “the legal relationship defines property rights, mutual duties of support, inheritance rights, tax liabilities, evidentiary privileges, rights to sue for personal injury or file for bankruptcy, claims to pensions, social security, and insurance benefits” and much more.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So here’s Laycock’s solution which I’d call a more developed version of what Tony Campolo has spent years advocating for:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We should leave the word “marriage” to its religious meaning, and use the new phrase “civil union” to describe the relationship formerly known as civil or legal marriage.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;“Civil unions” should not be a second-class status for same-sex couples; civil union should be the legal relationship created by the state for &lt;i&gt;straight &lt;/i&gt;couples – and for gays and lesbians in states that choose to legally recognize committed same-sex relationships. &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;“Marriage” should be reserved for private and religious relationships, and the state should have nothing to do with it….In a religiously pluralistic society, we must have an account of legal marriage that works for believers and nonbelievers alike.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Laycock continues:&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;What would it mean to fully separate religious marriage from secular civil unions?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Clergy could perform marriages within each faith tradition, but they could not perform civil unions.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Civil unions would be created in a secular ceremony led by a judge, a notary public, or a clerk at city hall.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Civil unions could be ended by civil courts that would sort out property rights, economic obligations and child custody.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Marriages could be ended only within the religious tradition that performed the marriage.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Each faith could maintain its own rules and marriage tribunals for its adherents.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Or if a church chose, it could defer to the state’s decisions about any civil union between the same partners.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But then it would have only itself to blame if it didn’t like the state’s decisions.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;You can read Douglas Laycock’s full argument in the newly released book, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Same-Sex-Marriage-Religious-Liberty-Conflicts/dp/074256326X&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Same-Sex Marriage and Religious Liberty: Emerging Conflicts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Also check out Oliver “Buzz” Thomas’s recent USA Today op-ed titled “&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/08/gay-marriage-a.html&quot;&gt;Gay Marriage: A Way Out&lt;/a&gt;.”&lt;b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/2412051785726446894/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/2412051785726446894' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/2412051785726446894'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/2412051785726446894'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/gay-marriage-and-religious-liberty.html' title='Gay Marriage and Religious Liberty: Emerging Conflicts'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-2677741179841552809</id><published>2008-10-09T17:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-09T17:53:11.545-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Faith &amp; Politics of Young Adults in 2008 Election</title><content type='html'>Faith in Public Life has released the findings from a new poll on the faith and politics of young adults (ages 18-34) in the 2008 election.  The poll&#39;s results are analyzed in the report &quot;The Young and the Faithful&quot; available &lt;a href=&quot;http://faithinpubliclife.org/content/faps/&quot;&gt;online&lt;/a&gt;.  Here are a few findings of interest from the poll:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Monthly worship attenders swing to Obama in 2008. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;The greatest shift in candidate preference between 2004 and 2008 has occurred among all voters who attend religious services once or twice a month, moving from 49% support for Kerry in 2004 to 60% support for Obama in 2008. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;More Americans think Obama is friendly to religion than McCain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; Forty-nine percent of Americans say Obama is friendly to religion, while 45% say McCain is friendly to religion. More than seven-in-ten (71%) say it is important for public officials to be comfortable talking about religious values.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;These are two very interesting stats.  In a recent article over at Religion Dispatches titled &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/election08/519/john_mccain%3A_no_god_but_country/&quot;&gt;No God But Country&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; Kathryn Lofton argues that John McCain &quot;may not believe in God.&quot;  Unlike many of the conservatives (being charitable here) that I have encountered who regularly question the faith and salvation of Barack Obama, I will not question the faith of John McCain.  McCain says he believes in the divine and I take him at his word.  However, it seems that Lofton has tapped into a perception about John McCain that obviously many others share.  By being unable or unwilling to make his private faith public on the campaign trail, John McCain has created the perception in many voters&#39; minds that he is not overly faith-friendly. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Young first-time voters are heavily supporting Obama.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; Among young first-time voters, who make up close to one-third of this age group (ages 18-34), more than seven-in-ten (71%) support Obama, compared to slightly more than half (53%) of young voters who have voted in previous elections.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Younger white evangelicals are more pluralistic and more supportive of active government at home and of diplomacy abroad.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; While less than one-third (30%) of older evangelicals say a person can be moral without believing in God, 44% of younger evangelicals affirm this idea, a 14-point gap. A majority (56%) of younger evangelicals believe diplomacy rather than military strength is the best way to ensure peace, compared to only 44% of older white evangelicals. Younger white evangelicals are also more likely than older white evangelicals to favor a bigger government offering more services, by a margin of 21 points (44% and 23% respectively).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;I think all peace-loving people should be encouraged by this stat.  Older evangelicals don&#39;t have a good track record when it comes to the reality of pluralism.  The Culture Wars of the 80s and 90s are a product of older evangelicals refusal and inability to deal with and adapt to our increasingly pluralistic society. &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Americans say economy, energy and gas prices, and health care are the most important issues in 2008. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Americans rank the economy (83%) and energy/gas prices (76%), and health care (71%) as the most important issues in the 2008 election. Economic issues topped the list of most important issues among all religious groups. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Americans rank abortion and same-sex marriage as the least important issues in 2008.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; Only 43% and 28% respectively say these issues are very important issues to their vote in 2008. White evangelicals do not rank abortion or same-sex marriage in their top five most important voting issues.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;        &lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Americans see room for common ground in abortion debate. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;A majority (53%) of Americans believe political leaders can work to find common ground on abortion while staying true to their core beliefs, including majorities of white mainline Protestants (59%), Catholics (55%), and the unaffiliated (52%).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; It&#39;s indeed a good thing that a majority of Americans, both Protestant and Catholic, are willing to work together to find common ground on divisive social issues like abortion rights while also pledging to hold firm to their convictions.  Can&#39;t go wrong with a common ground approach.  The political arena needs more politicians and activist organizations that are fully committed to finding common ground on a host of issues.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/2677741179841552809/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/2677741179841552809' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/2677741179841552809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/2677741179841552809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/faith-politics-of-young-adults-in-2008.html' title='Faith &amp; Politics of Young Adults in 2008 Election'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9414526.post-8562456924691544913</id><published>2008-10-08T16:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-08T17:02:25.062-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="New Baptist Covenant"/><title type='text'>2009 Regional Gathering of the New Baptist Covenant</title><content type='html'>Here&#39;s a snippet from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.al.com/religion/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/living/1223108135288410.xml&amp;amp;coll=2&quot;&gt;Birmingham News&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Former President Jimmy Carter plans to teach a Bible study class and be the keynote speaker on Jan. 31 at a regional gathering in Birmingham of the New Baptist Covenant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The New Baptist Covenant, an informal alliance of more than 30 Baptist groups from throughout North America with a combined membership of more than 20 million, will meet at Sixteenth Street Baptist Church and the Birmingham Civil Rights Institute.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Rev. Arthur Price, pastor of Sixteenth Street Baptist, and the Rev. Gary Furr, pastor of Vestavia Hills Baptist Church, will serve as co-chairmen of the event&#39;s steering committee.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the &lt;a href=&quot;http://newbaptistcovenant.blogspot.com/2008/10/press-release.html&quot;&gt;Press Release&lt;/a&gt; announcing the 2009 Midwest Regional Meeting:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:130%;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:130%;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Announcing the New Baptist Covenant Midwest Regional Meeting&lt;br /&gt;At the Norman Convention Center on August 6-7, 2009&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In January 2008 more than 15,000 Baptists from across the United States, Canada and Mexico met for the first ever meeting to celebrate a New Baptist Covenant. The covenant represented the commitment of more than 20 million Baptists in North America to fulfill our “obligations as Christians to promote peace with justice, to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to shelter the homeless, to care for the sick and the marginalized, welcome the strangers among us, and promote religious liberty and respect for religious diversity.” The covenant also reaffirmed our “commitment to traditional Baptist values, including sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ and its implications for public and private morality.” &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The leaders of the New Baptist Covenant, representing more than 80 Baptist Conventions, fellowships and organizations in North America, agreed to meet collectively every three years to renew this commitment. Between these triennial meetings, the leaders of the New Baptist Covenant called for regional meetings that would gather to unite Baptists from our various Conventions, fellowships and organizations to celebrate, exhort, network and encourage one another in fulfilling the obligations of our new Baptist Covenant. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Steering Committee for the New Baptist Covenant Midwest Region is pleased to announce that the New Convention Center in Norman, Oklahoma has been selected for the first ever meeting of the Midwest Region of the New Baptist Covenant. The meeting will be held on August 6-7, 2009. Former President Jimmy Carter has agreed to speak at our meeting. We will be celebrating the 400th anniversary of the founding of the Baptist denomination.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/feeds/8562456924691544913/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/9414526/8562456924691544913' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8562456924691544913'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/9414526/posts/default/8562456924691544913'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://bigdaddyweave.blogspot.com/2008/10/2009-regional-gathers-of-new-baptist.html' title='2009 Regional Gathering of the New Baptist Covenant'/><author><name>Big Daddy Weave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06270791070315400815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1935/464/1600/MEandJohnLewis.0.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry></feed>