Am in the bridging business as well, hope it all connects for our benefits.

You’re definitely welcome to join, it was suggested to me in the process of creating the group to add several of the groups on the list, to engage them in conversation on where opportunities exist. The list is already long, and growing, as you’d expect. There is a lot of technology in both Idenity & HealthCare that is in progress today.

Data Portability group is one of the groups I’ve recently joined to learn more about it, and see if the work product, as it clearly aligns with the the spirit of User Centric Health, and with many things on the current list of possible collaborators (Liberty, OASIS, IDCommons, OpenID, ASTM)

All of the groups listed on the User Centric Health http://wiki.idcommons.net/User-Centric_Health_Charter. Feel free to add any suggestions.

Also, I’m at @mikekirkwood, I follow you on Twitter, saw your post there. Feel free to contact me anytime.

See you out there!

Thanks for the follow-up to our conversation. I totally agree with the “organic growth” of the Semantic Web and you’re correct in saying that, as with many technologies, we’ll see a blended implementation of each of the stack elements. (Some are incredibly difficult nuts to crack and are goals which technologists are still far away from reaching.)

However, I do think that the true definition of the Semantic Web is housed at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/ as ultimately the W3C have control over all of the other languages of the (current) Web (XHTML, CSS, DOM etc.) I do agree that it will be difficult/impossible to “roll on top of existing systems” due to the complexities, but then again we saw the adoption of XML-based standards contributed to the “Web 2.0″ movements with RSS etc.

The example of the “Fully Semantic Web Enabled” company you describe is (unfortunately) true in today’s world where “buzzwords” are used to generate funding. There’s no way of changing that and that’s the tension between purists and businessmen. I, like yourself, like to hear about companies who’re pushing the boundaries of the modern Web but I cringe at the ones who don’t do their homework and make claims that are purely marketing-driven.

Difficult to say who should be “educating” who, but your “organic” observation is definitely true. But without challenging perceptions across the board we will never progress.

One thing you might consider are traps like this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/live-catch-trap/

They are humane and safe, and easy to make, too!

The transcription picks up at the 6:50 minute mark (after announcements and banter between co-hosts Trent Adams and Steve Greenberg) and goes straight through to the 50:01 minute mark when Drummond leaves the stage. See the transcription at …

http://pardalis.squarespace.com/blog/2008/7/31/dataportability-in-motion-podcast-episode-12-drummond-reed.html

I’ve just expanded the tribal idea in my blog post entitled “The Tribes of the Semantic Web“.

I am very glad that you are on a “mini crusade” for Linked Data, feel free to come chat one day.

Many thanks,

Daniel

I do find that I’ll tweak the audio envelope in the waveform during editing for volume levels that are particularly egregious. Mixcraft makes it easy to do, so it’s not burdensome when necessary.