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		<description><![CDATA[Declared Price When you&#8217;re buying property in Spain this is the price which appears on all the official documents, and hence on which all the taxes are based. The Spanish don’t seem to like paying tax much, so anything they can do to pay less is fair game. They avoid tax on buying and selling&#8230; <a href="http://buying-property-in-spain.com/buying-property-in-spain-advice/declared-price/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
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<p>When you&#8217;re buying property in Spain this is the price which appears on all the official documents, and hence on which all the taxes are based.</p>
<p>The Spanish don’t seem to like paying tax much, so anything they can do to pay less is fair game.</p>
<p>They avoid tax on buying and selling property by simply declaring a lower price to the authorities than the actual transaction price! The difference is paid in cash.</p>
<p>Let’s say you are in the process of buying a property for €100,000. The seller would prefer not to declare the full price to the authorities because the more they declare the more Capital Gains Tax (CGT) they will pay.</p>
<p>You the buyer may want to declare the full price, because when you sell in the future you too want to minimise your CGT.</p>
<p>But on the other hand, the higher the declared price, the more you will pay now in transfer tax (at a massive flat rate of 7%).</p>
<p>Normally there is a compromise at about 20-25% of the full price. So what happens in the €100,000 case is that at the Notary you’ll hand over a banker’s draft for €75,000 and €25,000 in cash.</p>
<p>This usually happens in the Notary’s building, say in a side office, or even in Reception, but etiquette dictates never in front of the Notary in person.</p>
<p>Sometimes you might all go back to one of the lawyers’ offices to do it.</p>
<p>You have to leave your Northern European conscience out of this – it’s the way they do things here.</p>
<p>There can be problems though; I heard of a cortijo which sold for €150,000 with a declared price of €75,000!  The problem the seller had then was €75,000 in cash; he had to open loads of extra bank accounts, because the maximum cash you can pay in without having to fill in a form to report the transaction to the Bank of Spain is normally €6,000!</p>
<p>The declared price is a fact of property transaction life here.</p>
<p>Like most other elements of buying property in Spain it’s negotiable, so if you’re at all worried about the illegality or immorality of it you can always try to persuade your buyer or seller that you’re only interested in declaring the full price. Just be aware that there’s a possibility you might lose the deal if you try to insist on it.</p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Contracts and Deposits</strong></p>
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<p>Here’s a brief summary and the problems you can get.</p>
<p>The 3 usual stages during the purchase process are:</p>
<p><strong>1. </strong><strong>The reservation fee</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>Often the estate agent or seller will ask for a reservation fee of anything up to 5% of the price. In my experience, both as a buyer and a seller, this is a complete waste of time.</p>
<p>The only instance it’s necessary and useful is when you’re buying off-plan.</p>
<p>If you’re buying, then unless you have a proper contract it’s too easy for someone else to come along and beat your offer. You’ve then got the hassle of trying to get your money back.</p>
<p>If you’re selling it’s the same; without a formal signed contract and at least a 10% deposit you’ve got nothing.</p>
<p><strong>2. </strong><strong>The private contract (</strong><strong><em>contrato privado</em></strong><strong>).</strong></p>
<p>This is drawn up by your lawyer, if you’ve any sense (some estate agents will offer to do this for you – forget it, you don’t ask your lawyer to sell your house, do you?)</p>
<p>Basically it states who is buying what; from whom; for how much; what the timescale is; what conditions are attached; what deposit is to be paid.</p>
<p>When the seller and buyer sign this contract the buyer hands over the agreed deposit. Spanish law is good here in that if the seller drops out of the sale they have to pay you back <em>double the</em> <em>deposit</em>.</p>
<p>Unless they’ve spent it of course, in which case good luck to you as you chase them through the courts.</p>
<p><strong>3. </strong><strong>The Sale Contract (</strong><strong><em>escritura de compraventa</em></strong><strong>)</strong></p>
<p>This is the important one which both buyer and seller sign together in front of the <strong>Notary</strong>. This then gets covered in loads of official stamps and stickers, becomes your public title deed (<em>escritura</em> <em>pública</em>), and is registered as such at the Land Registry…eventually.</p>
<p>You don’t have to go through all the stages. Sometimes you can go straight to the Notary; a lot of sales don’t even do this, they’re just private sales completely bypassing officialdom and therefore saving money. The problem here is <em>the property </em><em>won’t be registered in the new owner’s name.</em></p>
<p><em> </em>People do this to avoid tax, lawyer’s fees and Notary fees, but it comes back to haunt them when they want to sell on, because <em>they can’t prove officially and </em><em>publicly that they own the property</em>.</p>
<p>Most land and village houses are like this. The ones with proper deeds and clean title are the exception, not the rule, which is why you need a lawyer to sort it all out for you.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[Architect (Arquitecto) 1. Private You’ll need a spanish architect to prepare a project plan (proyecto) if you’re going down the legal route for your building in Spain; either new build, extending or renovating. (I explain the difference between ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’ under Planning Permission. Believe me, it’s not that simple.) Don’t do what I did – take on&#8230; <a href="http://buying-property-in-spain.com/building-in-spain/architects/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
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<div id="_mcePaste"><strong>1. Private</strong></div>
<div>You’ll need a spanish architect to prepare a project plan (proyecto) if you’re going down the legal route for your building in Spain; either new build, extending or renovating. (I explain the difference between ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’ under Planning Permission. Believe me, it’s not that simple.)</div>
<div id="_mcePaste">Don’t do what I did – take on an architect on recommendation from friends only to discover later that he was a highways engineer!#?! (To be fair he did get the job done &#8211; well most of it &#8211; but he had to use a ‘proper’ architect to do all the donkey work who, by the way, I never met.)</div>
<div id="_mcePaste">If you’re unsure, check they’re registered with the provincial Architect’s College.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste">They’re all called Colegio Oficial de Arquitectos de…Granada, Seville, Madrid…whatever, and they’ve all got websites.</div>
<div>My advice would be to ensure that the terms and conditions of your contract with the architect clearly stipulate that full payment will only be made when you havereceived ALL your licences.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste"><strong>2. Public<br />
</strong></div>
<div id="_mcePaste">Round here every Town Hall (Ayuntamiento) has its own architect. Depending on the size of the Town Hall’s district they will be part-time or full-time.</div>
<div>For instance in the two villages nearby (one of 900 inhabitants, the other of 3000) they are both one-day-a-weekers, and couldn’t be more different in terms of attitude. In the larger village the guy is friendly, helpful, and – a real bonus – speaks excellent english. In the smaller village he’s the opposite.</div>
<div>Whatever they’re like, you really ought to get to see these people before you buy in their patch if you are planning to do any building or renovation work.</div>

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		<description><![CDATA[Building in Spain &#8211; Spanish Planning Permission (Licencia de Obra) The options are: 1. Build only when permission has been granted 2. Build while applying for permission 3. Build, never intending to get permission 4. Build something different to what you have permission for There’s a good book, ‘You and the Law in Spain’, by&#8230; <a href="http://buying-property-in-spain.com/building-in-spain/spanish-planning-permission/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
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<span style="font-weight: normal;">The options are:</span></strong></div>
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<p>1. Build only when permission has been granted</p>
<p>2. Build while applying for permission</p>
<p>3. Build, never intending to get permission</p>
<p>4. Build something different to what you have permission for</p>
<p>There’s a good book, <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/8489954852?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=buyingpropertyinspain-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=6738&amp;creativeASIN=8489954852" target="_self"><span style="color: #0000ff;">‘You and the Law in Spain’, by David Searl</span></a>, (the link will take you to Amazon) which explains in detail the legal process of self-building in Spain. Basically to start you need a Building Licence (<em>Licencia de Obra</em>) which your local Town Hall issues. To get this licence you need an architect-prepared set of plans.</p>
<p>This is not a back-of-an envelope job, but an incredibly detailed document in my case weighing in at nearly 2 kilos! This has to be presented to the regional government, and only on their approval can the Town Hall issue the Building Licence. Clearly this all takes time; it might even take a year or longer.</p>
<p>So if you’re going for Option 1 be prepared for a long wait while spanish bureaucracy ambles along at it’s own pace. Be prepared also for changes in local, provincial, regional and national regulations while you’re waiting; changes which are unlikely to benefit you!</p>
<p>Option 2 is very common and is what my architect and builder recommended (well they would, wouldn’t they?). I have to say my lawyer wasn’t that keen (well she wouldn’t be, would she?).</p>
<p>Determined to find out about this myself, I went to the Town Hall where the secretary explained my choices. It went like this:</p>
<p>‘I want to build a house, what do I need to do please?’</p>
<p>‘Well,’ she said, ‘You can just go ahead and build, and every four or five years a helicopter flies over the municipality taking photographs’ …at this point she pulled out a thick ring binder and started flicking through page after page of aerial photosof assorted buildings…</p>
<p>‘&#8230;and all the new structures since the last pass will then have to be registered. There may or may not be a fine.’</p>
<p>She then pointed out of the window to a magnificent villa halfway up the hillside, dead opposite and in plain view of the Town Hall.</p>
<p>‘They built that without permission,’ she said, matter-of-factly.</p>
<p>‘What if I want to do it legally?’ I asked.</p>
<p>‘In that case you’ll have to go through a rigorous procedure following our building regulations to the letter’.</p>
<p>The whole feeling of the conversation was that she was steering me towards the simple solution, ie just get on and build, everyone else does.</p>
<p>But my british law-abiding instinct asserted itself and I decided that the compromise solution seemed to be to do it legally, but retrospectively.</p>
<p>So what happens in the smaller municipalities is that you or your lawyer/architect/builder get a verbal agreement from the Town Hall based on your plans. This allows you to start work informally while your formal application is going through the system. This is exactly what I did, and a year after moving in I still haven’t got the licence.</p>
<p>I pop in every 2 to 3 weeks to see the Mayor who, with a big smile on his face, reassures me that there’s no problem, even on one occasion patting me on the back and telling me not to worry so much! As he explained it to me there was only one official architect for the whole province, and he was so overworked that planning permission applications were backing up, but that in time it would clear.</p>
<p>How much time?…A shrug of the shoulders…</p>
<p>Option 3 is to ignore officialdom completely and just get on and build. The success of this strategy depends almost entirely on the attitude of the local mayor. For example one of the mayors nearby will only get involved if someone reports an illegal build to the police; otherwise he pursues a policy of live and let live.</p>
<p>However in a neighbouring village the Town Hall were onto some friends of mine very quickly as soon as they put some hard-standing down for a mobile home (see the <strong>Architects  post</strong>).</p>
<p>The worst case scenario is of course the demolition order; this is happening now not far away to a Swede. Married to a Spaniard, it’s not as if they weren’t aware of the consequences, or were having problems with the language.</p>
<p>Option 4 is very popular: get permission for something but build something else. It happens a lot because the local mayors can give building permission for what’s called an <em>apero</em>, or agricultural toolshed/storeroom. This is in no way ever supposed to be a dwelling in any shape or form, just somewhere to store your farming tools and products. There are also limitations on how big they can be.</p>
<p>For example in two local municipalities next to each other the limit is 25m² and 50m² respectively. But as might be expected this restriction on surface area is loosely interpreted by the spanish. In the municipality with the 25m² maximum there are <em>aperos </em>of 28m², 40m², 50m² and more; one I know of is 90m² and even the agent who showed me it thought the owners were pushing their luck.</p>
<p>And a friend’s brother proudly announced at a party recently that he’d just received his planning permission. No-one could believe it because he’s building a big house and there just hasn’t been enough time to process his application.</p>
<p>Needless to say his permit is for a humble <em>apero</em>. But what he doesn’t know yet is that the mayor’s seen it, and is really not very happy; in fact he made an imaginary pistol out of finger and thumb and loosed off a couple of shots towards this rather grand ‘toolshed’!</p>
<p>That’s got to be a bad move, worse even than not asking for permission at all. I’m watching out for the official bulldozer…</p>
<p>Another mayor is hitting back and has decreed that <em>aperos </em>mustn’t have any internal dividing walls.</p>
<p>Meanwhile they just keep on springing up.</p>
<p>The danger of any illegal build is not so much from the local Town Hall, depending of course on how relaxed the Mayor is, but from the regional government. These are the guys with real bite who can enforce the demolition orders.</p>
<p>There are (legal) ways round this. There’s a document called a Certificate of Age (<em>certificado de antiguedad</em>) which you get from your Town Hall. This states how old the building is, even if it has never been registered at the Property Registry.</p>
<p>In this area, if a building has stood for 4 years 6 months and 1 day with no sanctions against it, then not only is it automatically safe from demolition, but also the authorities are obliged to process any application to get the property legally registered.</p>
<p>Different municipalities have different rules about this so you need to check in the Town Hall.</p>
<p>What the illegal builders are all hoping for is an amnesty. Everything standing will have the chance to become legal but that’s it…After that the authorities will come down hard on anything remotely outside planning law.</p>
<p>An amnesty was granted last year in quite a large town further eastwards, but obviously you can’t count on it.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be careful with Rights of Way when buying property in Spain. For instance, in olive harvesting season at the end of the year, you may well wake up to see an old man on his mule, with his little dog trotting happily in front, ambling down your “private” track. Although there is no “right of way”, nevertheless the&#8230; <a href="http://buying-property-in-spain.com/buying-land-in-spain/spanish-land-problems/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
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<p>For instance, in olive harvesting season at the end of the year, you may well wake up to see an old man on his mule, with his little dog trotting happily in front, ambling down your “private” track.</p>
<p>Although there is no “right of way”, nevertheless the old boy has ALWAYS gone that way to pick his olives.</p>
<p>Not much you can do unless you seriously want to alienate your neighbours: relax, crack open a bottle, and ask him for some of his olive oil when it’s been pressed.</p>
<p>Other problems are not what they first appear…</p>
<p>An acquaintance, John, built a house on land bordering an olive grove. Along the border, partly on his land, partly on his neighbour’s (Paco), the previous owner of John’s land had given permission for Paco’s cousin to have access to his olives further down the hillside.</p>
<p>One day a bulldozer arrived and dug out a platform on Paco’s land next to John’s boundary, leaving a drop the height of a double-decker bus along the border.</p>
<p>For safety reasons John then built a wall along this cliffside, about 1.5 metres in from the edge. 1.5 metres just happens to be the accepted width of a path (camino) big enough for a mule with side baskets.</p>
<p>A few days later he noticed a gathering of people outside his gates, shouting and gesticulating heatedly. This ‘meeting’ was made up of: Paco (agitated and redfaced), Paco’s cousin with wife, son and mother (the latter elderly, stooped, dressed all in widow&#8217;s black, clearly upset); John’s builder and the builder’s brother; the Land/Property Broker (corredor) who had found John the land in the first place (a welshman, been there before, resigned to spanish dispute arbitration procedures) and of course, arriving late and apparently uninvited, John himself.</p>
<p>The reason for all this aggro was of course the access to the olives. Paco maintained that there had been a right of way for years and years; John had built a wall and not left enough room for a mule, not just a mule on its own, but a mule<br />
wearing side baskets to carry the harvested olives to the mill.</p>
<p>‘But,’ the builder countered, ‘you have made a dangerous cliffside and bulldozed away half the ‘path’ anyway, if indeed any path existed in the first place.’</p>
<p>‘What do you know about anything, you’re not even from round here’,</p>
<p>retorted Paco. (True, but not as if he’s from the other end of Spain, only the next village about 3 miles away; in fact you can see the edge of it on the other side of the valley!)</p>
<p>On and on, backwards and forwards, argument and counter argument, until it was obvious that no agreement would be reached, and by now everyone was getting bored and hungry.</p>
<p>Eventually it was left at something of a stalemate; the only fair outcome being to refer the dispute back to the former owner of John’s land, luckily an upstanding and respected member of the local community, whose family had owned the land for 60 years.</p>
<p>He in fact categorically stated that there was no right of way, and that Paco’s cousin was definitely trying it on. Why? Because he wanted to establish access to his land; not to pick his olives, but to be able to sell his plot for building.</p>
<p>Had John given in to these demands he would soon have heard the unmistakeable sound of a JCB preparing the ‘mule-track’ for the construction lorries!</p>
<p>A year later and Paco’s cousin has managed to get access from another part of his land, so at last the problem has gone away.</p>
<p>Moral: don’t be bullied and bamboozled by crafty locals with tales of ancient rights of way, unless, of course, it’s a vía pecuaria.</p>
<p>Check, double-check and check again.</p>
<p>Watch out too if buying in towns or villages. There can be some peculiar access issues such as shared staircases, roof terraces, passageways and the like.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[You can do everything properly, carefully and legally when you&#8217;re buying property or land in Spain and still get caught out big time. Even the local Town Hall can be in the dark about this particular nightmare: it&#8217;s called a Vía Pecuaria. In the UK they&#8217;re called Drovers&#8217; Roads or Green Lanes, ancient rights of&#8230; <a href="http://buying-property-in-spain.com/buying-land-in-spain/access-and-rights-of-way/">Continue reading &#187;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #000000;">You can do everything properly, carefully and legally when you&#8217;re buying property or land in Spain and still get caught out big time. Even the local Town Hall can be in the dark about this particular nightmare: it&#8217;s called a Vía </span><span style="line-height: 15px; font-size: x-small;"><span style="color: #000000;"> </span></span><span style="color: #000000;">Pecuaria. In the UK they&#8217;re called Drovers&#8217; Roads or Green Lanes, ancient rights of way hundreds and sometimes thousands of years old, formerly used to drive livestock from A to B. In Great Britain they&#8217;re well documented and often sign-posted &#8211; in Spain they&#8217;re not.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">And as there are 100,000 kilometres (62,500 miles) of these things, wherever you buy there’s a very good chance that there’s one nearby, and an equally good chance that no one knows about it except some bureaucrat miles away in the Regional Government.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">When a friend bought land to build on she was determined to do everything above board, to the letter, and absolutely legally. She sourced her professional advisors very carefully, based on recommendation, and where possible, eg the builder, by seeing work they had already done. So far so good. She now had:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">a Lawyer</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">an Architect</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">a Land Surveyor</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">a Builder</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">She delivered the Project Plans (proyecto) to the Town Hall herself, and on the Mayor’s personal go-ahead, the build started.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">After nearly a year the house was finished and she moved in. One day about a month later a little white Suzuki Jeep with official-looking green signs on the doors pulled up at the gates. Two brown-uniformed officals got out, introduced themselves as being from the Department of the Environment (Consejería de Medio Ambiente), and asked if there’d been any trouble with the neighbours recently. That got her thinking, because as it happens, there had been a disagreement about a boundary. This however was not the reason these guys were there; what they were doing was investigating the route of a Vía Pecuaria (VP), and it looked like her brand-spanking-new house was slap bang in the middle of it!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Because she had nothing to hide she invited them in, and when they asked if they could measure the external dimensions of the house and take some photos, she said yes. Why not? As far as she was concerned everything was above board, she had followed procedures to the letter and had nothing to worry about.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">3 months later an official letter arrived, recorded delivery, informing her that, according to the records, she had indeed built on a VP, and giving her just 30 days to respond. (This is normal practice , and in fact 30 days is quite generous, it can be as few as 10.)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Just to recap: no-one had picked up this VP issue; not the solicitor, not the surveyor, not the architect. Not even the Town Hall through whose patch the VP runs! The authorities in the regional capital had also approved the project plan,which included a detailed map of the location of the house!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Nor is there any mention of it in theProperty Registry, or the Property Tax Registry! It’s not even visible on the aerial photos on the Ministry of Agriculture website. What chance has anyone got?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Anyway, without further ado she dispatched her lawyer to talk to the authorities. The lawyer came back having had a meeting with a very reasonable and understanding official. The upshot was that my friend had two choices: </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">a) do nothing, and not know when, or if, theEnvironment Department would act; or </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">b) ask them to survey and mark out on theground exactly where the boundaries of theVP are.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">And as her lawyer very reasonably pointed out it wouldn’t make sense just to do the 50 or so metres next to her house; they’d have to survey the whole length of the VP. That’s where things stand now, nearly 9 months after the meeting.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">The good news is they probably  won’t demolish the house because there she has an official project in the pipeline. The bad news is that she can’t legalise her house-build until the VP issue is sorted out. The ugly news is that she could be faced with a fine of between €30,000 and €150,000.Ouch!.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">How to avoid this? Well, obviously, you need to ask the specific question of your lawyer, estate agent, surveyor, architect; &#8220;Please confirm there are no rights of way through my land&#8221;. They are called variously cañadas, cañadas reales, cordeles, veredas, and a host of other regional variants.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">You can do some of the checking-up yourself; there are maps available, similar to UK Ordnance Survey, called Mapa Topográfico Nacional de España on which VPs are marked. You can get these, or order them, in bookshops.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">You can also try searching the websites of the regional governments. For instance the province of Granada has all its VPs marked on it (see Websites).</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">What you can’t do is ignore them; they’re a serious obstacle.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">If you’re already in the middle of a VP problem, don’t panic. VP’s have different widths, different classifications, and different priorities.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">The higher the priority the more trouble you’re in if you’ve builton one. Unfortunately the two most critical legal issues are</span></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">land on a VP cannot be bought or sold, and</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">there is no statute of limitations, ie there is no time limit: this applies FOREVER.</span></li>
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