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		<description>Leadership Network is hosting an upcoming free webinar by Larry Osborne on &amp;#8220;sticky churches.&amp;#8221; This is good stuff for churches that are struggling with assimilation that leads to spiritual growth.Here&amp;#8217;s a quick excerpt from the Learnings Blog at Leadership Network that describes the webinar&amp;#8230;
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<p>Leadership Network is hosting an upcoming free webinar by Larry Osborne on &#8220;sticky churches.&#8221; This is good stuff for churches that are struggling with assimilation that leads to spiritual growth.Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt from the <a href="http://learnings.leadnet.org">Learnings Blog</a> at <a href="http://www.leadnet.org">Leadership Network</a> that describes the webinar&#8230;</p>
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<p>Yesterday I spent an hour with Dino Rizzo, Eric Swanson and Rick Rusaw talking about churches that serve on our monthly webinar, The Spotlight. It was a great discussion, and it was really neat when they were each taking notes from the others&rsquo; stories! If you missed it, don&rsquo;t fret &ndash; you can <a href="http://media.leadnet.org/Webinars/Spotlight_Mar_2010_Serving.zip%20">download the recording and a copy of the notes (in slide format) here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>On April 14, 2010, The Spotlight will feature Larry Osborne of </strong><a href="http://www.northcoastchurch.com/" target="_blank"><strong>North Coast Church</strong></a><strong> in Vista, CA</strong>. Larry is the author of several books, including <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=leadershipnetwor&amp;path=tg/detail/-/0310285089" target="_blank">Sticky Church</a></em><em>&nbsp;</em> (Zondervan, 2008) and his latest, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=leadershipnetwor&amp;path=tg/detail/-/0310324645" target="_blank">Sticky Teams</a></em> (Zondervan, 2010). The webinar is a one-hour, online presentation that lets participants interact with the presenter in a Q&amp;A format. Got a question for Larry about stickiness in your church? Go ahead and <a href="http://learnings.leadnet.org/2010/03/new-spotlight-webinar-sticky-churches.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Fleadnetlearnings+%28Learnings+%40+Leadership+Network%29#" target="_blank">email</a> it to me now &#8212; we&rsquo;ll try to answer as many questions as possible on <strong>Wednesday, April 14 at 3:00 pm Central (<a href="http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_US-TX.aspx?y=2010&amp;mo=4&amp;d=14&amp;h=15&amp;mn=0">convert to my time zone</a></strong><strong>&nbsp;</strong><strong>). The webinar is free, but you must register to participate, so <a href="https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/255335818" target="_blank">register now</a>!</strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<description>Yesterday I spent an hour with Dino Rizzo, Eric Swanson and Rick Rusaw talking about churches that serve on our monthly webinar, The Spotlight. It was a great discussion, and it was really neat when they were each taking notes from the others’ stories! If you missed it, don’t fret – you can download the [...]</description>
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<p>Yesterday I spent an hour with Dino Rizzo, Eric Swanson and Rick Rusaw talking about churches that serve on our monthly webinar, The Spotlight. It was a great discussion, and it was really neat when they were each taking notes from the others’ stories! If you missed it, don’t fret – you can <a href="http://media.leadnet.org/Webinars/Spotlight_Mar_2010_Serving.zip%20">download the recording and a copy of the notes (in slide format) here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>On April 14, 2010, The Spotlight will feature Larry Osborne of </strong><a href="http://www.northcoastchurch.com/" target="_blank"><strong>North Coast Church</strong></a><strong> in Vista, CA</strong>. Larry is the author of several books, including <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=leadershipnetwor&amp;path=tg/detail/-/0310285089" target="_blank">Sticky Church</a></em><em></em> (Zondervan, 2008) and his latest, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=leadershipnetwor&amp;path=tg/detail/-/0310324645" target="_blank">Sticky Teams</a></em> (Zondervan, 2010). The webinar is a one-hour, online presentation that lets participants interact with the presenter in a Q&amp;A format. Got a question for Larry about stickiness in your church? Go ahead and <a href="http://learnings.leadnet.org/2010/03/new-spotlight-webinar-sticky-churches.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Fleadnetlearnings+%28Learnings+%40+Leadership+Network%29#" target="_blank">email</a> it to me now &#8212; we’ll try to answer as many questions as possible on <strong>Wednesday, April 14 at 3:00 pm Central (<a href="http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_US-TX.aspx?y=2010&amp;mo=4&amp;d=14&amp;h=15&amp;mn=0">convert to my time zone</a></strong><strong></strong><strong>). The webinar is free, but you must register to participate, so <a href="https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/255335818" target="_blank">register now</a>!</strong></p>
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<li><em>Sticky</em> <em>Church</em> tells the inspiring story of North Coast Church&#8217;s phenomenal growth and offers practical tips for launching your own sermon-based small group ministry. Topics include: Why stickiness is so important. Why most of our discipleship models don&#8217;t work very well. Why small groups always make a church more honest and transparent. What makes groups grow deeper and sticker over time. </li>
<li><em>Sticky Teams </em>exposes the hidden roadblocks, structures, and goofy thinking that all too often sabotage the health and harmony of even the best intentioned ministry teams. With practical and seasoned advice, Larry shows what it takes to get a leadership board, ministry team, and an entire congregation headed in the same direction, sticking together, unified and healthy for the long haul. </li>
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<p>Just for fun, here’s a short video about Larry’s new book, <em>Sticky Teams.</em></p>
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<p>Stephanie Plagens is the Publications Manager for Leadership Network.</p>
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<p>My friend Doug Lucas from <a href="http://www.teamexpansion.org" title="Team Expansion">Team Expansion</a> has a great blog called <a href="http://www.brigada.org">Brigada</a> (that started 15 years ago!) for missions and missionaries. This <a href="http://www.brigada.org/2010/02/21_4059">link</a>, to a film about a mission team who got bumped off of a flight only to see everyone on that flight killed when the plane crashed, is pretty amazing.</p>
<p>Doug is guy who really gets it when it comes to church planting and missions. We serve together on a team encouraging worldwide and US church planting as part of <a href="http://www.restorationrevolution.org">Restoration Revolution</a>.</p>
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		<title>Reading Matthew 2 as part of our “28 Days Later” Easter Preparation</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<title>Why Small Groups Don’t Work — Good Thoughts from Geoff Surratt</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<description>Geoff Surratt has a series of good posts on why small groups don&amp;#8217;t work. His solution? Check out the post to learn more.
Personally, I think mid-sized missional communities are a great way to do things, especially outside of affluent suburban areas.
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The missional community model seems to address many of the challenges I [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff Surratt has a series of good posts on <a href="http://geoffsurratt.typepad.com/inner_revolution/2010/02/why-small-groups-dont-work-part-5.html">why small groups don&#8217;t work</a>. His solution? Check out the post to learn more.</p>
<p>Personally, I think mid-sized <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missional_Communities">missional communities</a> are a great way to do things, especially outside of affluent suburban areas.</p>
<div>Here&#8217;s  a brief excerpt:</div>
<blockquote><p>The missional community model seems to address many of the challenges I see in the way we traditionally have done small groups in America:</p>
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<li>Groups begin with an outwardly focused mission. Rather trying to retro-fit mission into small groups, mission is the core. Relationship and discipleship happen as a natural outcome of living life with a missional purpose.</li>
<li>Groups are big enough to make a real impact. 30 people on mission carries a much bigger wallop then 12. But the intimacy of the 12 is still intact. &#8220;Big enough to dare, small enough to care&#8221;</li>
<li>Coaching happens in the context of the missional community. Rather than an outsider trying to provide support and training, the &#8220;coach&#8221; (missional community leader) is in the mix with the small group leaders. They are on mission together.</li>
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<p>I have barely scratched the surface of what missional communities could look like in an American context, and I have learned that we can&#8217;t just lift a model from another culture and try to impose it on our unsuspecting flocks; but I do believe that there are huge implications for this paradigm in the U.S. It brings together the positive aspects of small groups, house churches, mid-size groups, multi-site and mega churches into a missional, transformational context.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s my five part small group rant. What are the implications in your context? What are the drawbacks and advantages? Where have I missed the boat?</p></blockquote>

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		<description>I’ve been coaching church planters for over twenty years now. Church planters are a unique breed, often presenting distinctive challenges to their coaches. I know this because I’ve also been—and currently am—a church planter. I know firsthand how challenging we can be, and I also know what we need from our coaches.
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<p>I’ve been coaching church planters for over twenty years now. Church planters are a unique breed, often presenting distinctive challenges to their coaches. I know this because I’ve also been—and currently am—a church planter. I know firsthand how challenging we can be, and I also know what we need from our coaches.</p>
<p>Our international qualitative research project shows the outcomes of what good coaching accomplishes. We have isolated the competencies and microskills a coach needs to accomplish those outcomes. But one question I’m often asked is this:&nbsp; To coach a church planter effectively, what else is needed besides the basics of being a good coach? Essentially, are there specific skill sets, competencies, or qualities needed beyond the essential foundation of good coaching skills?</p>
<p>The answer is yes, but those skills are not what you might think.</p>
<p><strong>The Impact of Experience</strong><br />  Once when I was training coaches who wanted to work with planters, a participant was insisting on how critical it was for the coach to have planting experience. “The coach of a church planter <em>must </em>be an experienced church planter,” he said. I responded, “Your experience as a church planter is irrelevant. And can actually be detrimental.”</p>
<p>At that point, another participant got upset and started arguing with me. He was angry, and I let him go on for quite a while telling me why I was wrong. Because this was coach training, I eventually stopped him and said, “Now, if you were a good coach, you would have asked me a clarifying question so you would understand what I meant by what I said. So why don’t you ask me a good coaching question to unpack my thinking?”</p>
<p>The participant, being a habitual teller, sat there for a full minute or two without being able to formulate a question. At that point, I decided to help with the discomfort in the room. “Well, one question you could ask is, ‘Bob, could you help me understand what you meant by that statement that your experience as a planter is irrelevant?’”</p>
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<p>Then I went on to answer my own question, explaining that our experience colors our coaching and we can easily try to project our own experiences on the planter we are working with. Really, the fact of how I did it in my situation is irrelevant. I have different gifts than the planter I am coaching. The situation and the context are different. It’s not one-size-fits all. Just because God worked one way in my situation, I can’t assume God will work the same way in yours.</p>
<p>Experience can certainly help with bonding, but the crucial issue for a coach is understanding the principles. The coach who can walk the planter through the process of applying the principles to the planter’s unique situation is the one who will be helpful. Allowing our own experience to be superimposed over the planter’s experience is not helpful.</p>
<p>In the training session, I exaggerated the statement up front in order to communicate to this group of hard-charging people. They were relying heavily on their own experiences. Because they were practitioners, they felt they knew all they needed to know about coaching church planters. But really what they needed to learn was the difference between being a leader in their own situation and being a coach to help others be leaders.</p>
<p><strong>Principles vs. Methodologies</strong><br />  In many cases where an experienced church planter is the coach, their experiences color how they coach. When looking at the situation methodologically rather than from a principle-based perspective, the coach is tempted to steer the planter in certain directions. For example, if the coach has had negative experiences with a multi-site approach, the temptation may be strong to focus on the methodology: “The multi-site approach won’t work”—as opposed to looking at the deeper principles that are at work regardless of what methods are being used. Good church planter coaches need to think in terms of underlying principles rather than in terms of methodology.</p>
<p>So what about credibility? Planters do want to know about the credibility of the coach they’re working with. In theory, an excellent coach could be useful to a church planter. But an excellent coach would be much more useful if they have an understanding of the principles of church planting. Sometimes a planter will disrespect a coach who doesn’t have planting experience. That’s not the coach’s fault, but the planter’s prejudice. But if you as a coach can help them unpack their thinking and understand the dynamics involved, they’ll see that you’re useful.</p>
<p>Establishing a personal connection with the planter, which includes credibility and trust, is essential. The three questions planters are asking are these: &nbsp;Can I trust you? &nbsp;Are you helpful? Do you care? The successful coach is one who can listen deeply and help the planter unpack their unique vision and dreams so they know they are understood. By doing that well, these three questions will be answered in the affirmative—regardless of the coach’s planting experience.</p>
<p>To effectively help unpack who a planter is and what they are trying to accomplish, a coach will need to go through the due diligence of processing the planter’s proposal and assessment. Properly interpreted, these two documents unlock a wealth of information about each planter, allowing you as the coach to know precisely where to probe more deeply. &nbsp;Coaches of church planters need to be able to read and interpret planter assessments and proposals effectively.</p>
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<p>Cultural Considerations<br />  Another area when I often see coaches stumble as they are working with planters centers on the cultural complexities involved in church planting. Cultural barriers often play out on a number of different levels:&nbsp; understanding the culture of the target group, understanding the culture the planter is coming from, and understanding the relationship between those two.</p>
<p>One planter working in the trendy, upscale community of Huntington Beach, California was convinced that unchurched people were looking for traditional music in a church environment. By missing the ways his culture intersected with the target group culture, he led his church plant straight into a stone wall. They didn’t last too long in Huntington Beach. &nbsp;One of the benefits a coach can offer in this area is to help the planter identify and get in tune with the culture of their target group.</p>
<p>When we are planting churches today, it’s a cross cultural experience, even if the planter is engaging with their own culture. It’s easy to miss nuances that are important to the target group because we make assumptions that what we like or prefer as Christians is the same as what unchurched people want. In this sense, Christians and non-Christians represent two different cultural groups. Coaches can help planters think through what good news really looks like to those they are trying to reach… not just to those who have already been reached.</p>
<p><strong>Addressing Common Roadblocks</strong><br />  At that point, what if a planter has been successful? What if they are effectively reaching their target group? What then do they do with those people? Commonly planters need help from their coaches in organizational development. Planters tend to be big picture kind of people—sometimes showing a disregard for the underlying structures that make that picture possible. How many planters, especially postmodern planters, have you heard say, “We don’t need anything organized. We’re just going to be relational, be missional, and reach people.”&nbsp; A good coach can help this planter think through the hows of their vision in a way that doesn’t diminish its relational, organic nature, yet still sets it up for success.</p>
<p>The more church planters I’ve known and worked with, the more I’ve become aware of the common areas where planters tend to self-destruct. There are specific symptoms to look for and specific areas to ask about—even if the planter isn’t bringing them up. As a group, planters tend to neglect their own spiritual and relational health. They become so focused on their goals that they forget about themselves and their relationships with God, their family, and their friends.</p>
<p>Unlike a standard coaching relationship, where you address the issues the client is bringing to you, when you’re coaching a church planter, you need to ask about these areas even if the planter isn’t surfacing them—because they are related to the planter’s goals whether they realize the connection or not.</p>
<p>These areas we’ve discussed all accentuate the importance of coming at the coaching relationship from planter’s perspective, understanding them, and being on their side. That doesn’t mean you’ve necessarily been a planter yourself, but it does mean you’ve taken the time to understand the world through a planter’s eyes.</p>
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<p><em>Dr. Robert E. Logan is founder of CoachNet and is an internationally recognized leader in the coach development and church leadership fields. CoachNet Global has done extensive work in the area of focusing coaches on the specific challenges facing church planters. We’re launching a specialization track for coaches who want to more effectively serve church planters. Components of this track include coach mentoring, face-to-face experiences and online peer support. A baseline of coaching skill is required, and specific competencies will be built on top of those core skills. This specialization will be offered several times in 2010-11 in a number of areas around the country. Visit </em><a href="http://www.coachnet.org/"><em>www.coachnet.org</em></a><em> for details. </em></p>
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<p>What do you think? If you HAD to choose, would you want to be coached by someone who was a great coach, but had no church planting experience? Or someone who is a great church planter, but had no coaching experience?</p>
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		<title>More Photos of Plaza Iglesia Mission Team Commissioning at Life Journey Christian Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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		<description>Here are more photos of this morning&amp;#8217;s commissioning service at Life Journey Christian Church. Four families made six-month long commitments to serve Plaza Iglesia Cristiana, a new church plant led by Cesar and Maria Salazar. These four families will be serving in various capacities at the new church including children&amp;#8217;s, youth, and worship ministries. [...]</description>
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<p>Here are more photos of this morning&#8217;s commissioning service at <a href="http://www.lifejourneychurch.com/">Life Journey Christian Church</a>. Four families made six-month long commitments to serve <a href="http://www.plazaiglesia.com/">Plaza Iglesia Cristiana</a>, a new church plant led by Cesar and Maria Salazar. These four families will be serving in various capacities at the new church including children&#8217;s, youth, and worship ministries. The new church kicks off its first public worship service on Sunday, February 28.</p>
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<p>Plaza Iglesia Cristiana is being planted in cooperation with <a href="http://www.stadia.cc/">Stadia</a> and the Kern County Church Planting Network.</p>
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