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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/rss2full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><rss xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0" version="2.0"><channel><title>coComments by Creeva</title><link>http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva</link><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/CocommentsByCreeva" /><description>coComments by Creeva</description><language>en</language><image><link>http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva</link><url>http://www.cocomment.com/images/logo4rss.gif</url><title>coComments by Creeva</title></image><copyright>Copyright 2006 coComment.com</copyright><lastBuildDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:43:41 PDT</lastBuildDate><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/CocommentsByCreeva" /><feedburner:info uri="cocommentsbycreeva" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><feedburner:emailServiceId>CocommentsByCreeva</feedburner:emailServiceId><feedburner:feedburnerHostname>http://feedburner.google.com</feedburner:feedburnerHostname><item><title>Facebook Launches Commenting Widget (ReadWriteWeb)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/uWyYWcCViXo/facebook_launches_commenting_widget.php</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:47:32 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/59973977</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>You failed to mention Disqus &#x2d; which already implmented Facebook Connect &#x2d; and is a more robust commenting platform using the same technology</p>
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<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/xCEoQ7WCUrdYl8ZCw4ZvpZPnqdE/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/xCEoQ7WCUrdYl8ZCw4ZvpZPnqdE/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/uWyYWcCViXo" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>You failed to mention Disqus - which already implmented Facebook Connect - and is a more robust commenting platform using the same technology</description><feedburner:origLink>http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_launches_commenting_widget.php</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>the crossposting god series part 3 live journal and derivative sites creevas world 20 (Creeva’s World 2.0)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/RBCdYHJlYy4/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:30:26 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/59793922</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>To be honest &#x2d; I finally dropped the livejournal plugin about a month ago &#x2d; and it was working fine then &#x28;though in your scenario it almost sounds like your webserver&#x29;&#x2e;   Currently to get my content over to my livejournal I&#x27;m using ping&#x2e;fm &#x2d; ping&#x2e;fm allowed me to minimize the plugins I was using for crossposting&#x2c; so it does the work for 85&#x2d;90&#x25; of what I used to do with just using one plugin&#x2e; <br /><br />To sign up for the service go to ping&#x2e;fm &#x2d; for the wordpress plugin that seems to work best with the service go here &#x2d; http&#x3a;&#x2f;&#x2f;www&#x2e;soldoutactivist&#x2e;com&#x2f;pingpressfm<br /><br />if you have further questions just drop a comment back here or email me at creeva &#x28;at&#x29; gmail&#x2e;com &#x2d; sometimes it may take me a day or so to respond &#x2d; but I will as soon as I can&#x2e;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Lg_QXN-dPtQDd7raevtpYPTMyfk/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Lg_QXN-dPtQDd7raevtpYPTMyfk/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Lg_QXN-dPtQDd7raevtpYPTMyfk/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Lg_QXN-dPtQDd7raevtpYPTMyfk/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/RBCdYHJlYy4" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>To be honest - I finally dropped the livejournal plugin about a month ago - and it was working fine then (though in your scenario it almost sounds like your webserver).   Currently to get my content over to my livejournal I'm using ping.fm - ping.fm allowed me to minimize the plugins I was using for crossposting, so it does the work for 85-90% of what I used to do with just using one plugin. 

To sign up for the service go to ping.fm - for the wordpress plugin that seems to work best with the service go here - http://www.soldoutactivist.com/pingpressfm

if you have further questions just drop a comment back here or email me at creeva (at) gmail.com - sometimes it may take me a day or so to respond - but I will as soon as I can.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/05/22/crosspost-livejournal/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>watching a yahoo group die (Creeva’s World 2.0)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/QIBedSIj4uY/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:17:50 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/57729345</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>you know &#x2d; one thing I forgot to add &#x2d; at one point I did try to move them over to a Google group when that was an option &#x2d; it was too dead by then to perform a proper migration&#x2e;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/VDX4ppuLA2M8G6ee3XwB2nvozJE/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/VDX4ppuLA2M8G6ee3XwB2nvozJE/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/VDX4ppuLA2M8G6ee3XwB2nvozJE/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/VDX4ppuLA2M8G6ee3XwB2nvozJE/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/QIBedSIj4uY" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>you know - one thing I forgot to add - at one point I did try to move them over to a Google group when that was an option - it was too dead by then to perform a proper migration.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2009/02/12/watching-a-yahoo-group-die/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>trip to nasa8217s plum brook station open house creevas world 20 (Creeva’s World 2.0)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/v6zCEvKcLrc/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:46:24 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/56903283</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>You would have to contact NASA directly at www&#x2e;nasa&#x2e;gov &#x2d; but I believe they do the open house thing every year</p>
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<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/yWUf5Sw9RoUoQiDkdkW4lnLTMdg/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/yWUf5Sw9RoUoQiDkdkW4lnLTMdg/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/v6zCEvKcLrc" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>You would have to contact NASA directly at www.nasa.gov - but I believe they do the open house thing every year</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/06/02/trip-to-nasas-plum-brook-station-open-house/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>the html is easy myth creevas world 20 (Creeva’s World 2.0)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/LoLA2NyENT4/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:41:34 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/55074254</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>CSS is so much easier then HTML since it is more human readable &#x28;even though they say HTML is human readable&#x29;&#x2e;    If you manage to ever get over to the wordpress platform you&#x27;ll be doing alot with CSS in themes &#x28;you also do it in blogspot themes&#x29;&#x2e; <br /><br />I managed to first get online to the &#x22;real internet&#x22; back in 94&#x2c; but I didn&#x27;t do any HTML for years&#x2e;   After moving to a CMS &#x28;content managment system&#x29; or blog platform I can say I would never move to static pages done in HTML ever again&#x2e;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/wTquI3kUwCv42lUTj3C7nQtAqC8/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/wTquI3kUwCv42lUTj3C7nQtAqC8/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/wTquI3kUwCv42lUTj3C7nQtAqC8/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/wTquI3kUwCv42lUTj3C7nQtAqC8/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/LoLA2NyENT4" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>CSS is so much easier then HTML since it is more human readable (even though they say HTML is human readable).    If you manage to ever get over to the wordpress platform you'll be doing alot with CSS in themes (you also do it in blogspot themes). 

I managed to first get online to the "real internet" back in 94, but I didn't do any HTML for years.   After moving to a CMS (content managment system) or blog platform I can say I would never move to static pages done in HTML ever again.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/01/17/the-html-is-easy-myth/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>43 Places on the move (The Robot Co-op)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/3zRggwGDNC8/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:02 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/54313567</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>I seemed to have lost the link to the RSS feed for my visited places &#x2d; am I looking in the wrong places or is this gone&#x3f;</p>
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<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/uQN1NUoQIoXAB7dHrDYR5lNcMuc/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/uQN1NUoQIoXAB7dHrDYR5lNcMuc/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/3zRggwGDNC8" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>I seemed to have lost the link to the RSS feed for my visited places - am I looking in the wrong places or is this gone?</description><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2009/01/19/moving-on-up/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>where_were_you_when_moments_my_answers (creevasworld20)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/HcRr5kkmz84/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:59:39 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/39108075</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>Thanks for dropping by to comment&#x2e;  <br /><br />Some people won&#x27;t get the Cobain thing&#x2e;  I didn&#x27;t at one point&#x2e;  I&#x27;m not sure I still truly do on a personal level&#x2e;   I love Nirvana and it&#x27;s one of my &#x22;go to&#x22; bands when I want to listen to something&#x2e;   When I was in high school it was my senior year&#x2e;  I was into hip&#x2d;hop and rap&#x2e;  It wasn&#x27;t until the following year I ended up listening to a lot of rock that I got more into it&#x2e;   To some level  I always enjoyed rock &#x2d; but I was more likely to buy C&#x26;C Music Factory then any rock album&#x2e; <br /><br />So once I got into Nirvana&#x2c; Kurt Cobain was already dead&#x2e;  So I don&#x27;t think his loss can reach me the same way&#x2e;  I think some of Nirvana&#x27;s lyrics are nonsensical&#x2c; and that&#x27;s fine&#x2e;  It&#x27;s the voice not the words that spoke for my generation&#x2e;  The same way I think Hendrix spoke for his&#x2e;   Some things transcend it all and I think in the greater picture is what Kurt really did&#x2e;</p>
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<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Jnc3NXbA3XlEOHc-doBz7yNn-NE/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Jnc3NXbA3XlEOHc-doBz7yNn-NE/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/HcRr5kkmz84" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>Thanks for dropping by to comment.  

Some people won't get the Cobain thing.  I didn't at one point.  I'm not sure I still truly do on a personal level.   I love Nirvana and it's one of my "go to" bands when I want to listen to something.   When I was in high school it was my senior year.  I was into hip-hop and rap.  It wasn't until the following year I ended up listening to a lot of rock that I got more into it.   To some level  I always enjoyed rock - but I was more likely to buy C&amp;C Music Factory then any rock album. 

So once I got into Nirvana, Kurt Cobain was already dead.  So I don't think his loss can reach me the same way.  I think some of Nirvana's lyrics are nonsensical, and that's fine.  It's the voice not the words that spoke for my generation.  The same way I think Hendrix spoke for his.   Some things transcend it all and I think in the greater picture is what Kurt really did.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/12/02/where-were-you-when-moments-my-answers/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>the_kiosk_series_part_three_microsoft_steadystate_vs_group_policies_creevas_world_20 (creevasworld20)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/4pLqOPHGNjw/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:01:10 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/34971256</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>To be honest &#x2d; I haven&#x27;t really attempted to actually remove steady state &#x2d; on the machines I employ these on I would just do a system wipe&#x2e;   If I get a chance I&#x27;ll attempt to go through and try it and see how it goes and what I find&#x2e;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/yhYjslY0vOSIGQ2ExQPN0CRQDQA/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/yhYjslY0vOSIGQ2ExQPN0CRQDQA/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/yhYjslY0vOSIGQ2ExQPN0CRQDQA/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/yhYjslY0vOSIGQ2ExQPN0CRQDQA/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/4pLqOPHGNjw" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>To be honest - I haven't really attempted to actually remove steady state - on the machines I employ these on I would just do a system wipe.   If I get a chance I'll attempt to go through and try it and see how it goes and what I find.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/04/09/the-kiosk-series-part-three-microsoft-steadystate-vs-group-policies/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>strange_attachment_creevas_world_20 (creevasworld20)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/39PdfjNJwgc/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:37:26 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/32450574</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>My only problem now is that I&#x27;ve been using hte GPS to track wher eI&#x27;ve been &#x2d; and if I forget to either plugin the N810 at night or leave maemo mapper running &#x2d; it kills my batteries&#x2e;   This can make me a sad panda&#x2e;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/e-qQTCDnU9eNn5FdrZMcCDKZaR4/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/e-qQTCDnU9eNn5FdrZMcCDKZaR4/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/e-qQTCDnU9eNn5FdrZMcCDKZaR4/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/e-qQTCDnU9eNn5FdrZMcCDKZaR4/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/39PdfjNJwgc" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>My only problem now is that I've been using hte GPS to track wher eI've been - and if I forget to either plugin the N810 at night or leave maemo mapper running - it kills my batteries.   This can make me a sad panda.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/06/03/strange-attachment/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>worried_about_skyhook_mapping_your_wifi_router_to_a_geolocation (creevasworld20)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/UoOeiRRb4IA/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:19:34 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/31885391</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>I don&#x27;t nec&#x2e; disagree  with you &#x2d; it took me much longer to write the article then it would have been to come up with the idea of doing this and make the change&#x2e;   <br /><br />In theory my one AP is newer and prob&#x2e; is not in the database&#x2c; if my other API&#x27;s are in the database it will probably say the wrong state depending on when they passed through &#x2d; pre or post move to my current location&#x2e; <br /><br />Either way &#x2d; I can change&#x2c; I know how to change&#x2c; and if I am inclined I can do it in under a minute&#x2e; <br /><br />What the real point of this article was everyone was going WAY overboard and overthinking this issue and solutions to remove their own AP&#x27;s from teh database&#x2e;   If they don&#x27;t like the database or have a grudge against&#x2c; my solution is simple and sweet&#x2e;   The geo loc&#x2e; data they get from your MAC is wrong &#x2d; but like you pointed out if they want the information they can just walk down the street and pick up a different one&#x2e; <br /><br />There is no reason I have to be altruistic and give out my geo loc&#x2e; information just because someone didn&#x27;t buy a device with a GPS in it&#x2e;   That&#x27;s really the issue though right&#x3f;   When geo location applications become more refined we will just be using GPS chips in all of our devices anyways&#x3f;   At that point the skyhook database should eventually die off&#x2e;   It&#x27;s a stop gap until the GPS chip itself takes over&#x2e;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/g4if-9Qzs4oemsP4PhMxm_1hXmA/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/g4if-9Qzs4oemsP4PhMxm_1hXmA/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/g4if-9Qzs4oemsP4PhMxm_1hXmA/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/g4if-9Qzs4oemsP4PhMxm_1hXmA/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/UoOeiRRb4IA" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>I don't nec. disagree  with you - it took me much longer to write the article then it would have been to come up with the idea of doing this and make the change.   

In theory my one AP is newer and prob. is not in the database, if my other API's are in the database it will probably say the wrong state depending on when they passed through - pre or post move to my current location. 

Either way - I can change, I know how to change, and if I am inclined I can do it in under a minute. 

What the real point of this article was everyone was going WAY overboard and overthinking this issue and solutions to remove their own AP's from teh database.   If they don't like the database or have a grudge against, my solution is simple and sweet.   The geo loc. data they get from your MAC is wrong - but like you pointed out if they want the information they can just walk down the street and pick up a different one. 

There is no reason I have to be altruistic and give out my geo loc. information just because someone didn't buy a device with a GPS in it.   That's really the issue though right?   When geo location applications become more refined we will just be using GPS chips in all of our devices anyways?   At that point the skyhook database should eventually die off.   It's a stop gap until the GPS chip itself takes over.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/09/12/worried-about-skyhook-mapping-your-wifi-router-to-a-geolocation/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>worried_about_skyhook_mapping_your_wifi_router_to_a_geolocation (creevasworld20)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/UoOeiRRb4IA/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:25:07 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/31883135</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>Isn&#x27;t that the point though &#x2d; I wasn&#x27;t going through stating that everyone should change and break the skyhook API &#x2d; just if your worried about the geolocation information of your own API&#x2e;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/M_hNgntBxlWaGXP3cCoWUgVN1Xw/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/M_hNgntBxlWaGXP3cCoWUgVN1Xw/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/M_hNgntBxlWaGXP3cCoWUgVN1Xw/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/M_hNgntBxlWaGXP3cCoWUgVN1Xw/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/UoOeiRRb4IA" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>Isn't that the point though - I wasn't going through stating that everyone should change and break the skyhook API - just if your worried about the geolocation information of your own API.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/09/12/worried-about-skyhook-mapping-your-wifi-router-to-a-geolocation/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>is_there_a_strong_future_for_community_bands (creevasworld20)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/J2VKXeEJVaM/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:24:05 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/31766838</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>&#x40;Marti<br /><br />At least from your comments and other comments made from e&#x2d;mail that I&#x27;m not completely off base&#x2e;  I thought I would come off as some whipper snapper that don&#x27;t know nuffin to some people&#x2e;</p>
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At least from your comments and other comments made from e-mail that I'm not completely off base.  I thought I would come off as some whipper snapper that don't know nuffin to some people.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/08/23/is-there-a-strong-future-for-community-bands/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Flickr: Edit comment (Flickr Photo)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/MjJPraEJj2c/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:42:02 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/31688450</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>I did another post using your image and explaining CC licensing<br /><br />http&#x3a;&#x2f;&#x2f;creeva&#x2e;com&#x2f;2008&#x2f;10&#x2f;03&#x2f;did&#x2d;i&#x2d;blog&#x2d;without&#x2d;permission&#x2d;or&#x2d;do&#x2d;you&#x2d;not&#x2d;understand&#x2d;creative&#x2d;commons&#x2f;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/sZAd6VKVB91HB0nPyGBfOO3vPmU/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/sZAd6VKVB91HB0nPyGBfOO3vPmU/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
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http://creeva.com/2008/10/03/did-i-blog-without-permission-or-do-you-not-understand-creative-commons/</description><feedburner:origLink>http://flickr.com/photos/1sock/333979587/editcomment72157607698338006/?context=set-72157594324875213</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Kitty Reindeer (Flickr Photo)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/BsVGFnHfs0c/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:41:48 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/31688449</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>I did another post using your image and explaining CC licensing</p>
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<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/qbR3uX3bNLYeWhzPeH1OPeq41xc/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/qbR3uX3bNLYeWhzPeH1OPeq41xc/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~4/BsVGFnHfs0c" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded><description>I did another post using your image and explaining CC licensing</description><feedburner:origLink>http://flickr.com/photos/1sock/333979587/in/set-72157594324875213/?addedcomment=1</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>vhs_alumni_band_2008_memories (creevasworld20)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/FgWt0YsTq6o/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:49:01 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/31631624</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>Update &#x2d; I don&#x27;t know why the second and third embedded video aren&#x27;t showing up &#x2d; just click the google video link below them to view them on the google video site&#x2e;   <br /><br />I&#x27;ll be uploading high quality copies of the videos to the archive&#x2e;org under creative commons license&#x2e;   Free to copy&#x2c; reuse&#x2c; etc&#x2e;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/nXmTv4KRSwUpKzmTDoT5ZXE1rFc/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/nXmTv4KRSwUpKzmTDoT5ZXE1rFc/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
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I'll be uploading high quality copies of the videos to the archive.org under creative commons license.   Free to copy, reuse, etc.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/10/01/vhs-alumni-band-2008-memories/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>A Simple Way to Refine Searches (Google Operating System)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/w3iLwNtlJxM/simple-way-to-refine-searches.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:19:54 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/31268668</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>I find it funny that you still had to figure out a way to mention Chrome even though this plugin doesn&#x27;t work with it</p>
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/OXMYcoH6z84J4jmnkAW94l8J1e0/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/OXMYcoH6z84J4jmnkAW94l8J1e0/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
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I'm doing good - we have a little geek on the way due in Feb.</description><feedburner:origLink>http://creeva.com/2008/09/18/cloud-computing-vs-software-as-a-service-sas-whats-the-diff/</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>2_strands_invites_available (creevasworld20)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CocommentsByCreeva/~3/-VkWaFfgNEs/</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Creeva</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:37:17 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.cocomment.com/comment/31237757</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cocomment.com/comments/Creeva">Creeva</a> says: </p><p>Invitation Sent</p>
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