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		<title>Interview From Last Week</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Last week I was in Ventura speaking about and doing some interviews for an upcoming book I have coming out in the fall.  I&#8217;ll let you in on that book more in the spring as it is completely different than anything I&#8217;ve written thus far.  This interview however was about my thoughts on what churches are doing to engage &#8220;twenty-somethings&#8221; today, some of which we articulated in a book called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1434764796/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=stemypar-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=1434764796">The Slow Fade</a>.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I was in Ventura speaking about and doing some interviews for an upcoming book I have coming out in the fall.  I&#8217;ll let you in on that book more in the spring as it is completely different than anything I&#8217;ve written thus far.  This interview however was about my thoughts on what churches are doing to engage &#8220;twenty-somethings&#8221; today, some of which we articulated in a book called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1434764796/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1434764796">The Slow Fade</a>.</p>
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		<title>30k Foot View of God&#8217;s Will</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This morning I was writing for a resource called <a href="http://www.xp3college.com/">XP3College</a> &#8211; it&#8217;s offered through ReThink and is designed as a practical tool for those that have read one of my previous books, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1434764796/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=stemypar-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399369&#38;creativeASIN=1434764796%22">The Slow Fade</a></em>.  Anyway, the conversation guide I was writing is 4 dialogs long and had to do with God&#8217;s will.  I thought this could be encouraging for some readers here, so here are some things dialog two (of 4) talks about.</p>
<div>Everyone is interested in God&#8217;s will.  We seek to know what He wants us to do in specific circumstances and the truth is, if we&#8217;re honest, seeking these things out can be quite frustrating sometimes.  On another side, I know Christians that struggle with wondering if they are even in God&#8217;s will.  They wonder if they make one decision over another if that would somehow remove them from God&#8217;s will.  This core fear is what often drives them be stifled in making a decision in any direction.</div>
<div>We all have specific things we are praying about, but sometimes it helps to look at this topic from a 30,000 foot view.  What do we know God wants and what do we know He <em>is</em> doing?  Here are at least 3 things we know for sure:</div>
<div>
<ol>
<li>God is reconciling all things to Himself through Jesus (Colossians 1:19-20).  God is restoring what is broken and this includes us.</li>
<li>God is bringing Christians toward Christ-likeness (1 Thessalonians 4:1-8/ Philippians 1:6).</li>
<li>God often finds it necessary to bring trial into our lives (1 Peter 1:6-7, 4:12-13).</li>
</ol>
<div>So, if God is in anyway restoring brokenness within you, if God is in anyway changing you to be more like Christ and if there is any amount of pain in your life&#8230;.you can be confident that you are in God&#8217;s will.  I sincerely hope that is an encouragement to you&#8230;it was to me this morning as I wrote it.  Kind of weird how that happens sometimes.</div>
</div>
<p>&#160;</p>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning I was writing for a resource called <a href="http://www.xp3college.com/">XP3College</a> &#8211; it&#8217;s offered through ReThink and is designed as a practical tool for those that have read one of my previous books, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1434764796/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369&amp;creativeASIN=1434764796%22">The Slow Fade</a></em>.  Anyway, the conversation guide I was writing is 4 dialogs long and had to do with God&#8217;s will.  I thought this could be encouraging for some readers here, so here are some things dialog two (of 4) talks about.</p>
<div>Everyone is interested in God&#8217;s will.  We seek to know what He wants us to do in specific circumstances and the truth is, if we&#8217;re honest, seeking these things out can be quite frustrating sometimes.  On another side, I know Christians that struggle with wondering if they are even in God&#8217;s will.  They wonder if they make one decision over another if that would somehow remove them from God&#8217;s will.  This core fear is what often drives them be stifled in making a decision in any direction.</div>
<div>We all have specific things we are praying about, but sometimes it helps to look at this topic from a 30,000 foot view.  What do we know God wants and what do we know He <em>is</em> doing?  Here are at least 3 things we know for sure:</div>
<div>
<ol>
<li>God is reconciling all things to Himself through Jesus (Colossians 1:19-20).  God is restoring what is broken and this includes us.</li>
<li>God is bringing Christians toward Christ-likeness (1 Thessalonians 4:1-8/ Philippians 1:6).</li>
<li>God often finds it necessary to bring trial into our lives (1 Peter 1:6-7, 4:12-13).</li>
</ol>
<div>So, if God is in anyway restoring brokenness within you, if God is in anyway changing you to be more like Christ and if there is any amount of pain in your life&#8230;.you can be confident that you are in God&#8217;s will.  I sincerely hope that is an encouragement to you&#8230;it was to me this morning as I wrote it.  Kind of weird how that happens sometimes.</div>
</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>


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		<title>Humbling Comments</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div>Anytime you work hard at something and pour your heart into it, you want people to like it and find it useful.  Well, that said, I&#8217;ve been extremely humbled by what people have said about my newest book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/031067106X/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=stemypar-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399373&#38;creativeASIN=031067106X">Worlds Apart: Understanding the Mindset and Values of 18-25 Year Olds</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=031067106X&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />.</div>
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<div>Chuck Bomar gives very keen insight into the minds and hearts of what often can be a confusing generation to try and understand. While some give up or ignore trying to understand them, Chuck is someone who has  served with this age group and has studied and written about them them for many years. I always read everything Chuck writes because he writes with not just his research and experience but out of passion, love and belief in this generation.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>Dan Kimball, author </strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VYBDU8/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=stemypar-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399373&#38;creativeASIN=B003VYBDU8">They Like Jesus but Not the Church: Insights from Emerging Generations</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=B003VYBDU8&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></div>
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<div>&#8220;From one of the leading experts on college students, Chuck Bomar, <em>World&#8217;s Apart </em>gives us a solid, clear and empowering resource for coming alongside these emerging adults. When I want to learn about college students, I read Chuck Bomar.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>Chap Clark, PhD</strong></div>
<div><strong>Author</strong>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080103941X/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=stemypar-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399369&#38;creativeASIN=080103941X">Hurt 2.0: Inside the World of Today&#8217;s Teenagers (Youth, Family, and Culture)</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=080103941X&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399369" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></div>
<div><strong>Professor of Youth, Family, and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary</strong></div>
<div><strong><br />
</strong></div>
<div>&#8220;Personally, as the father of three adolescents, this book was an important and relevant read for me. Professionally, as the president of an evangelistic ministry, this book was an essential and strategic read. Chuck Bomar&#8217;s &#8220;Worlds Apart&#8221; is a timely and compelling work for anyone who wants to more effectively reach 18-25 year olds&#8230;.[they] are the future of our communities, our churches, and ultimately, our world. We need to invest in them if we are to invest in a brighter future. Bomar&#8217;s research and practical insights show us how.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>Kevin Palau</strong></div>
<div><strong>President, Luis Palau Association</strong></div>
<div><strong><br />
</strong></div>
<div>&#8220;&#8230;Chuck gives us a deep perspective for parents from the front lines of ministry.  Wondering what your college students might be thinking right now?  Chuck can tell you.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>Reggie Joiner, Founder and CEO of Orange</strong></div>
<div><strong><br />
</strong></div>
<div>We &#8212; the church &#8212; haven&#8217;t had a clue how to connect with college-age students for a long time. Peek inside an average church and it shows. Before we race off to construct lame programs and structures that miss the mark, we could all benefit from increased understanding.  Thankfully, Chuck Bomar has arrived with this book that offers just that.</div>
<div><strong>_Mark Oestreicher, The Youth Cartel</strong></div>
<div><strong><br />
</strong></div>
<div>&#8220;&#8230;Chuck combines a pastors heart with cutting edge research in a way that will help you lead your church and your family&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>_Jared Herd, author </strong>of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400203031/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=stemypar-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399373&#38;creativeASIN=1400203031">More Lost Than Found: Finding a Way Back to Faith</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=1400203031&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></div>
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<div>Chuck Bomar has become a leading voice on the issue of how to  [...] 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Anytime you work hard at something and pour your heart into it, you want people to like it and find it useful.  Well, that said, I&#8217;ve been extremely humbled by what people have said about my newest book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/031067106X/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=031067106X">Worlds Apart: Understanding the Mindset and Values of 18-25 Year Olds</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=031067106X&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />.</div>
<p></p>
<div>Chuck Bomar gives very keen insight into the minds and hearts of what often can be a confusing generation to try and understand. While some give up or ignore trying to understand them, Chuck is someone who has  served with this age group and has studied and written about them them for many years. I always read everything Chuck writes because he writes with not just his research and experience but out of passion, love and belief in this generation.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>Dan Kimball, author </strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VYBDU8/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=B003VYBDU8">They Like Jesus but Not the Church: Insights from Emerging Generations</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VYBDU8&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></div>
<p></p>
<div>&#8220;From one of the leading experts on college students, Chuck Bomar, <em>World&#8217;s Apart </em>gives us a solid, clear and empowering resource for coming alongside these emerging adults. When I want to learn about college students, I read Chuck Bomar.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>Chap Clark, PhD</strong></div>
<div><strong>Author</strong>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080103941X/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369&amp;creativeASIN=080103941X">Hurt 2.0: Inside the World of Today&#8217;s Teenagers (Youth, Family, and Culture)</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=080103941X&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></div>
<div><strong>Professor of Youth, Family, and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary</strong></div>
<div><strong><br />
</strong></div>
<div>&#8220;Personally, as the father of three adolescents, this book was an important and relevant read for me. Professionally, as the president of an evangelistic ministry, this book was an essential and strategic read. Chuck Bomar&#8217;s &#8220;Worlds Apart&#8221; is a timely and compelling work for anyone who wants to more effectively reach 18-25 year olds&#8230;.[they] are the future of our communities, our churches, and ultimately, our world. We need to invest in them if we are to invest in a brighter future. Bomar&#8217;s research and practical insights show us how.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>Kevin Palau</strong></div>
<div><strong>President, Luis Palau Association</strong></div>
<div><strong><br />
</strong></div>
<div>&#8220;&#8230;Chuck gives us a deep perspective for parents from the front lines of ministry.  Wondering what your college students might be thinking right now?  Chuck can tell you.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>Reggie Joiner, Founder and CEO of Orange</strong></div>
<div><strong><br />
</strong></div>
<div>We &#8212; the church &#8212; haven&#8217;t had a clue how to connect with college-age students for a long time. Peek inside an average church and it shows. Before we race off to construct lame programs and structures that miss the mark, we could all benefit from increased understanding.  Thankfully, Chuck Bomar has arrived with this book that offers just that.</div>
<div><strong>_Mark Oestreicher, The Youth Cartel</strong></div>
<div><strong><br />
</strong></div>
<div>&#8220;&#8230;Chuck combines a pastors heart with cutting edge research in a way that will help you lead your church and your family&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>_Jared Herd, author </strong>of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400203031/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=1400203031">More Lost Than Found: Finding a Way Back to Faith</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1400203031&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></div>
<p></p>
<div>Chuck Bomar has become a leading voice on the issue of how to reach college age people. Chuck&#8217;s authority comes not just from his understanding of the issues involved, but because he has great relationships with many college age adults.  He&#8217;s refreshingly clear on how all of us, regardless of our age or stage in life, can build authentic relationships with younger adults.  You&#8217;ll not only love what Chuck has to say, you&#8217;ll love how what he has to say will impact your life.&#8221;</div>
<div><strong>_Carey Nieuwhof, co-author</strong> of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1434764818/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369&amp;creativeASIN=1434764818">Parenting Beyond Your Capacity: Connect Your Family to a Wider Community (The Orange Series)</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1434764818&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />,Lead Pastor of Connexus Community Church, Toronto, Canada.</div>


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		<title>Book: College Ministry in a Post-Christian Culture</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It was somewhere between 6 to 9 months ago (I think) that I was driving over the Willamette river here in Portland, sadly telling an acquaintance what I believed to be the harsh reality of a manuscript he sent me.  <a href="http://stevelutz.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/my-book-what-people-are-saying/">Stephen Lutz</a> had a book he was trying to get published and had sent it to me to review.  At this point he had sent it out to some publishers (most &#8220;larger&#8221; ones), but wasn&#8217;t getting any bites.  Now, from what I know of Stephen he is a great guy, but we have only sat down once or twice at a conference or two so it was tough to tell him my honest thoughts about it.  Here is the bottom line of what I said:</p>
<p>From my perspective the sad reality was that &#8220;major publishers&#8221; would likely not take it on because there wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;large enough market&#8221; for the book.  From a national perspective, the Church just isn&#8217;t in a place where this would &#8220;sell enough units&#8221; for them to take it on and unfortunately it seems most don&#8217;t look at campus ministries as a large enough market.</p>
<p>This is brutal and a harsh reality of our world.  Publishers are in business, need to make money and their perception is what matters when it comes to publishing.  My recommendation for him was, if he desired a major publisher to take on the book, to rewrite it to reach a broader audience.</p>
<p>Well, frankly, I&#8217;m glad he didn&#8217;t do that.  Everything he said in what has now been published as <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0834127652/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=stemypar-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399373&#38;creativeASIN=0834127652">College Ministry in a Post-Christian Culture</a><img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&#38;l=as2&#38;o=1&#38;a=0834127652&#38;camp=217145&#38;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> NEEDED to be said and should be read by anyone working in college ministry.  I told him that on the phone, but it may have been drowned out by my other thoughts &#8211; not sure.  Personally, I have had a heart for this field and thus have labored to writte 2 books for leaders of church-based ministries, a book for adult volunteers, a new book for parents of 18-25 year olds&#8230;..all are NEEDED, but from a publishers perspective they also have a &#8220;large enough market&#8221; and I have a &#8220;large enough platform&#8221; (another factor in publishing) for them to take these on.</p>
<p>But the truth is, Stephen has a message that NEEDS to be heard and embraced.  Here&#8217;s what I would recommend: buy this book and learn from Stephen.  This book will, in fact, helpfully shape your focus in a wonderful way.  Plus, buying this book will show &#8220;major publishers&#8221; that there is in fact a &#8220;large enough market&#8221; out there for those working in college ministry!  You can read a <a href="http://issuu.com/barefootministries/docs/college_ministry_sample">sample here</a>,  [...] 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was somewhere between 6 to 9 months ago (I think) that I was driving over the Willamette river here in Portland, sadly telling an acquaintance what I believed to be the harsh reality of a manuscript he sent me.  <a href="http://stevelutz.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/my-book-what-people-are-saying/">Stephen Lutz</a> had a book he was trying to get published and had sent it to me to review.  At this point he had sent it out to some publishers (most &#8220;larger&#8221; ones), but wasn&#8217;t getting any bites.  Now, from what I know of Stephen he is a great guy, but we have only sat down once or twice at a conference or two so it was tough to tell him my honest thoughts about it.  Here is the bottom line of what I said:</p>
<p>From my perspective the sad reality was that &#8220;major publishers&#8221; would likely not take it on because there wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;large enough market&#8221; for the book.  From a national perspective, the Church just isn&#8217;t in a place where this would &#8220;sell enough units&#8221; for them to take it on and unfortunately it seems most don&#8217;t look at campus ministries as a large enough market.</p>
<p>This is brutal and a harsh reality of our world.  Publishers are in business, need to make money and their perception is what matters when it comes to publishing.  My recommendation for him was, if he desired a major publisher to take on the book, to rewrite it to reach a broader audience.</p>
<p>Well, frankly, I&#8217;m glad he didn&#8217;t do that.  Everything he said in what has now been published as <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0834127652/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=0834127652">College Ministry in a Post-Christian Culture</a><img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0834127652&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> NEEDED to be said and should be read by anyone working in college ministry.  I told him that on the phone, but it may have been drowned out by my other thoughts &#8211; not sure.  Personally, I have had a heart for this field and thus have labored to writte 2 books for leaders of church-based ministries, a book for adult volunteers, a new book for parents of 18-25 year olds&#8230;..all are NEEDED, but from a publishers perspective they also have a &#8220;large enough market&#8221; and I have a &#8220;large enough platform&#8221; (another factor in publishing) for them to take these on.</p>
<p>But the truth is, Stephen has a message that NEEDS to be heard and embraced.  Here&#8217;s what I would recommend: buy this book and learn from Stephen.  This book will, in fact, helpfully shape your focus in a wonderful way.  Plus, buying this book will show &#8220;major publishers&#8221; that there is in fact a &#8220;large enough market&#8221; out there for those working in college ministry!  You can read a <a href="http://issuu.com/barefootministries/docs/college_ministry_sample">sample here</a>, or purchase it here: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0834127652/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=stemypar-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=0834127652">College Ministry in a Post-Christian Culture</a><img style="border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=stemypar-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0834127652&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />.</p>
<p>Oh, and thank you to <a href="http://www.thehousestudio.com/wp/product/college-ministry-in-a-post-christian-culture/">House Studio</a> publishing for taking on a book that needs to be published&#8230;.and that has a market to support it.  I hope you will sell 100,000&#8242;s of these over the years!</p>


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		<title>Faithful, not perfect</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This past Sunday at Colossae I taught on the life of David. It was part of our &#8220;Ancient Biographies&#8221; series we&#8217;re doing this summer. A lot of people know a couple of stories about David and surely know he was a king, but most don&#8217;t really know much about his life. So, I decided to walk through it&#8230;with a point, of course.</p>
<p>We know God said David was a &#8220;man after His own heart.&#8221; David is held up as THE faithful king of all the kings and is esteemed in numerous ways throughout the scriptures. But he was also a mess. He lied to the priest at Nob, resulting in his death. He sought revenge with Nabal, seeking to kill him. And, he proved himself to be an adulterous murder as seen in the story with Bethsheba.</p>
<p>So, an obvious question is how can he be deemed &#8220;faithful&#8221; and a man after God&#8217;s own heart?</p>
<p>This question arises because we wrongly think of being a faithful person as being a perfect person. But here was my point: the moment we confuse faithfulness with perfection is the moment we sign up for a miserable life drowned out by shame and guilt. We will never be perfect, but we can be faithful. And David provided a great example for us to follow:</p>
<p>First, he desired to do God&#8217;s will (Psalm 40:8). This heart desire is something all believers have because of the Holy Spirit. Philippians 1:6 tells us that God will one day complete the work He has begun in us&#8230;so in the meantime, in our hearts, we want to please God. </p>
<p>Secondly, when we don&#8217;t, we need to be quick to repent. David models this in Psalm 51 after being confronted by Nathan regarding his relationship with Bethsheba. He totally comes clean, articulating the truth of his wrongdoings and relies fully upon God to cleanse him from these things.</p>
<p>Thirdly, after repenting, we need to be quick to receive God&#8217;s grace. Often times we don&#8217;t and it results in us shrinking back from God, the people of God and the mission of God. In Psalm 51 David receives grace and moves forward in ministry &#8211; &#8220;teaching transgressors&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I desire to please God in everything I do. I know I won&#8217;t be perfect in implementing those desires, so I try to be quick to repent. I want to be fully honest with God with how I sinned and the consequences my sin brought. AFter this, I seek to be quick to receive God&#8217;s grace and forgiveness and move forward in the ministry he has for me &#8211; whatever that might be. And, this pattern of life will one day result in my life being faithful, not perfect.</p>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past Sunday at Colossae I taught on the life of David. It was part of our &#8220;Ancient Biographies&#8221; series we&#8217;re doing this summer. A lot of people know a couple of stories about David and surely know he was a king, but most don&#8217;t really know much about his life. So, I decided to walk through it&#8230;with a point, of course.</p>
<p>We know God said David was a &#8220;man after His own heart.&#8221; David is held up as THE faithful king of all the kings and is esteemed in numerous ways throughout the scriptures. But he was also a mess. He lied to the priest at Nob, resulting in his death. He sought revenge with Nabal, seeking to kill him. And, he proved himself to be an adulterous murder as seen in the story with Bethsheba.</p>
<p>So, an obvious question is how can he be deemed &#8220;faithful&#8221; and a man after God&#8217;s own heart?</p>
<p>This question arises because we wrongly think of being a faithful person as being a perfect person. But here was my point: the moment we confuse faithfulness with perfection is the moment we sign up for a miserable life drowned out by shame and guilt. We will never be perfect, but we can be faithful. And David provided a great example for us to follow:</p>
<p>First, he desired to do God&#8217;s will (Psalm 40:8). This heart desire is something all believers have because of the Holy Spirit. Philippians 1:6 tells us that God will one day complete the work He has begun in us&#8230;so in the meantime, in our hearts, we want to please God. </p>
<p>Secondly, when we don&#8217;t, we need to be quick to repent. David models this in Psalm 51 after being confronted by Nathan regarding his relationship with Bethsheba. He totally comes clean, articulating the truth of his wrongdoings and relies fully upon God to cleanse him from these things.</p>
<p>Thirdly, after repenting, we need to be quick to receive God&#8217;s grace. Often times we don&#8217;t and it results in us shrinking back from God, the people of God and the mission of God. In Psalm 51 David receives grace and moves forward in ministry &#8211; &#8220;teaching transgressors&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I desire to please God in everything I do. I know I won&#8217;t be perfect in implementing those desires, so I try to be quick to repent. I want to be fully honest with God with how I sinned and the consequences my sin brought. AFter this, I seek to be quick to receive God&#8217;s grace and forgiveness and move forward in the ministry he has for me &#8211; whatever that might be. And, this pattern of life will one day result in my life being faithful, not perfect.</p>


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		<title>5 Adjustments When Teaching College Age People (5)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This is part 5 of a series.  Check out <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-1.html">part 1</a>, <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-2.html">part 2</a> and <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-3.html">part 3</a> or <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-4.html">part 4</a>.</p>
<p><strong>5. From Telling to Shaping</strong></p>
<p>As Christians we are seeking to have a biblical worldview. By that I mean we desire to view the world through the eyes of Scripture. We are trying to view things the way God does. Our doctrinal statements, classes, small groups and sermons in one way or another tell our worldview. But these things don’t necessarily shape the worldview of others.</p>
<p>College-age people are in midst of developing a worldview of their own. And even if they’ve been around the church for a while they don’t necessarily have a biblical worldview. This shift might seem a little less drastic than others, but consider being intentional about shaping the worldview of others more than telling them your own.</p>
<p>There are some very practical things I do to help in this, but one thing I always seek to do is compare what a particular passage is saying with the American norm in that area. For instance, in Luke 14:26 Jesus says, &#8220;If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.” Now, comparing that to the American norm is clearly a conflict. In fact so much so we have a hard time understanding what Jesus is even saying. This is because it’s a clash of worldviews. As American’s we place an extremely high value on family and can hardly grasp why Jesus wouldn’t do the same. But in order to grasp what Jesus is saying we have to view the things of the world, including family, the way he does. Then, and only then, will this passage make sense. My point is clearly not to write a commentary on this passage, but rather to show how the way we view the world drastically affects our understanding of Scripture.</p>
<p>When you teach, consider seeking to shape a biblical worldview in people rather than simply teaching them yours. Bring out passages like this and talk about the differences of perspective. Discuss different ways of viewing this passage and get people thinking about the perspective of Jesus when he makes this statement and compare that to the American norm. Does he not value family? Or, is there a perspective he has that we seem to miss? By asking these types of questions and discussing passages like this we can begin being a part of helping people shape a worldview of their own.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is part 5 of a series.  Check out <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-1.html">part 1</a>, <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-2.html">part 2</a> and <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-3.html">part 3</a> or <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-4.html">part 4</a>.</p>
<p><strong>5. From Telling to Shaping</strong></p>
<p>As Christians we are seeking to have a biblical worldview. By that I mean we desire to view the world through the eyes of Scripture. We are trying to view things the way God does. Our doctrinal statements, classes, small groups and sermons in one way or another tell our worldview. But these things don’t necessarily shape the worldview of others.</p>
<p>College-age people are in midst of developing a worldview of their own. And even if they’ve been around the church for a while they don’t necessarily have a biblical worldview. This shift might seem a little less drastic than others, but consider being intentional about shaping the worldview of others more than telling them your own.</p>
<p>There are some very practical things I do to help in this, but one thing I always seek to do is compare what a particular passage is saying with the American norm in that area. For instance, in Luke 14:26 Jesus says, &#8220;If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.” Now, comparing that to the American norm is clearly a conflict. In fact so much so we have a hard time understanding what Jesus is even saying. This is because it’s a clash of worldviews. As American’s we place an extremely high value on family and can hardly grasp why Jesus wouldn’t do the same. But in order to grasp what Jesus is saying we have to view the things of the world, including family, the way he does. Then, and only then, will this passage make sense. My point is clearly not to write a commentary on this passage, but rather to show how the way we view the world drastically affects our understanding of Scripture.</p>
<p>When you teach, consider seeking to shape a biblical worldview in people rather than simply teaching them yours. Bring out passages like this and talk about the differences of perspective. Discuss different ways of viewing this passage and get people thinking about the perspective of Jesus when he makes this statement and compare that to the American norm. Does he not value family? Or, is there a perspective he has that we seem to miss? By asking these types of questions and discussing passages like this we can begin being a part of helping people shape a worldview of their own.</p>
<p>And, by the way, it also makes our time together intriguing for the college-age mind. It stretches them. It forces them to think more deeply. Perhaps most importantly, they’re not bored by a sermon that gives them three simple points that they don’t have to think about. Instead they are being pushed intellectually and practically.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>*This is an exert from <a href="http://www.collegeleader.org/store/products/College_Ministry_From_Scratch-30-1.html">College Ministry From Scratch</a>.</em></p>


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		<title>5 Adjustments When Teaching College Age People (4)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This is part 4 of a series.  Check out <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-1.html">part 1</a>, <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-2.html">part 2</a> and <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-3.html">part 3</a>.</p>
<p><strong>4. From Giving to Equipping</strong></p>
<p><em> </em>Our traditional approach to teaching has been that the preacher does a ton of study in a passage of Scripture, formulates conclusions on that passage using Bible study methods, thinks about how the passage applies to the lives of those who will listen to the message, and then packages the message into approximately 30 minutes. It’s thought through and concise. I think the time spent in preparing for a message is necessary—when we give a message we ought to know the passage and have already thought through it well.</p>
<p>But what about everyone else? Should they not be able to think through it as well?</p>
<p>Way too often people sit in our churches and hear conclusions based on someone else’s study of Scripture. Yet they go home with no idea of how to study it for themselves. They are <em>given</em> a message discussing Scripture, but not necessarily <em>equipped</em> to get truth out of Scripture on their own.</p>
<p>College-age people are no exception. Consider shifting your focus from giving the conclusions of your own study to equipping others to draw their own conclusions. You can still teach a passage of Scripture but as you do, share about how you came to that conclusion. Share about your study process, tell them what stood out to you and why it did. There are all kinds of resources available on basic Bible study methods you can refer to, but letting people into your personal process can be even more effective. If you are going to help guide people toward Christ-likeness they must be able to go to Scripture and study it themselves. Shifting your focus from giving information to equipping others to get it for themselves is what’s needed.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><em>*This is an exert from <a href="http://www.collegeleader.org/store/products/College_Ministry_From_Scratch-30-1.html">College Ministry From Scratch</a>.</em></p>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is part 4 of a series.  Check out <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-1.html">part 1</a>, <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-2.html">part 2</a> and <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-3.html">part 3</a>.</p>
<p><strong>4. From Giving to Equipping</strong></p>
<p><em> </em>Our traditional approach to teaching has been that the preacher does a ton of study in a passage of Scripture, formulates conclusions on that passage using Bible study methods, thinks about how the passage applies to the lives of those who will listen to the message, and then packages the message into approximately 30 minutes. It’s thought through and concise. I think the time spent in preparing for a message is necessary—when we give a message we ought to know the passage and have already thought through it well.</p>
<p>But what about everyone else? Should they not be able to think through it as well?</p>
<p>Way too often people sit in our churches and hear conclusions based on someone else’s study of Scripture. Yet they go home with no idea of how to study it for themselves. They are <em>given</em> a message discussing Scripture, but not necessarily <em>equipped</em> to get truth out of Scripture on their own.</p>
<p>College-age people are no exception. Consider shifting your focus from giving the conclusions of your own study to equipping others to draw their own conclusions. You can still teach a passage of Scripture but as you do, share about how you came to that conclusion. Share about your study process, tell them what stood out to you and why it did. There are all kinds of resources available on basic Bible study methods you can refer to, but letting people into your personal process can be even more effective. If you are going to help guide people toward Christ-likeness they must be able to go to Scripture and study it themselves. Shifting your focus from giving information to equipping others to get it for themselves is what’s needed.</p>
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<p><em>*This is an exert from <a href="http://www.collegeleader.org/store/products/College_Ministry_From_Scratch-30-1.html">College Ministry From Scratch</a>.</em></p>


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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This is part 3 of a series.  If you missed the previous posts, check out <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-1.html">post #1</a> or <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-2.html">post #2</a>.</p>
<p><strong>3. From Behavioral to Spiritual Focus </strong></p>
<p>James 1:22 issues a command to believers to be doers of the word, not only hearers of it. The book of James issues a huge challenge to us as believers: we have to <em>do </em>something with what we know. This is an extremely important aspect of our faith. The last thing the Church needs is a bunch of people calling themselves “Christian” and not doing anything about it in the world.</p>
<p>But in some ways we’ve become out of balance, at times placing too much focus on behavior and missing what <em>actually produces</em> the behavior. Jesus confronts the Pharisee’s in Matthew 22:37-39 when He says their greatest command is to love God with all their heart, all their soul, and all their mind. He quoted a passage of scripture from Deuteronomy chapter 6—one that these people knew very well. They knew it inside and out, had it on the doorposts of their homes and even wore this section of Scripture around their arms and foreheads when they prayed. But they missed something—it’s called the point. They knew the information, but lost the heart. The Pharisees were good moral church going people who <em>did</em> all the right things. But there was a need for something deeper and this is where Jesus confronts them on multiple occasions. (For example see Matthew 23:23-36.)</p>
<p>I love the insight 1 Thessalonians 1:3 gives us on this issue. The apostle Paul is writing to people in the Thessalonian church and says he remembers their “work produced by faith, labor prompted by love and endurance inspired by hope in our Lord Jesus Christ.” In the Greek language, the emphasis is clearly on the faith, love, and hope of Paul’s audience. In fact, the way Paul structures his sentence stresses that these three qualities <em>produce</em> their work, labor, and endurance. The <em>NIV </em>version uses different terms like “prompted” and “inspired” for reading purposes, but the literal meaning in Greek is “produced.” His readers’ spirituality was producing outward action, not vice versa. Outward actions are<em> </em>simply markers of spiritual condition. We can try to get people to move in a behavioral direction, but to truly be effective we have to go much deeper. We must develop people’s faith, love, and hope. And when we do, the outward actions take care of themselves (Matthew 23:25-26).</p>
<p>Consider talking about spiritual truths without giving behavioral application. I know that may be difficult at first because it’s not typically our approach, but try having people think and pray through the application points for themselves. Force them to think through  [...] 

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<p><strong>3. From Behavioral to Spiritual Focus </strong></p>
<p>James 1:22 issues a command to believers to be doers of the word, not only hearers of it. The book of James issues a huge challenge to us as believers: we have to <em>do </em>something with what we know. This is an extremely important aspect of our faith. The last thing the Church needs is a bunch of people calling themselves “Christian” and not doing anything about it in the world.</p>
<p>But in some ways we’ve become out of balance, at times placing too much focus on behavior and missing what <em>actually produces</em> the behavior. Jesus confronts the Pharisee’s in Matthew 22:37-39 when He says their greatest command is to love God with all their heart, all their soul, and all their mind. He quoted a passage of scripture from Deuteronomy chapter 6—one that these people knew very well. They knew it inside and out, had it on the doorposts of their homes and even wore this section of Scripture around their arms and foreheads when they prayed. But they missed something—it’s called the point. They knew the information, but lost the heart. The Pharisees were good moral church going people who <em>did</em> all the right things. But there was a need for something deeper and this is where Jesus confronts them on multiple occasions. (For example see Matthew 23:23-36.)</p>
<p>I love the insight 1 Thessalonians 1:3 gives us on this issue. The apostle Paul is writing to people in the Thessalonian church and says he remembers their “work produced by faith, labor prompted by love and endurance inspired by hope in our Lord Jesus Christ.” In the Greek language, the emphasis is clearly on the faith, love, and hope of Paul’s audience. In fact, the way Paul structures his sentence stresses that these three qualities <em>produce</em> their work, labor, and endurance. The <em>NIV </em>version uses different terms like “prompted” and “inspired” for reading purposes, but the literal meaning in Greek is “produced.” His readers’ spirituality was producing outward action, not vice versa. Outward actions are<em> </em>simply markers of spiritual condition. We can try to get people to move in a behavioral direction, but to truly be effective we have to go much deeper. We must develop people’s faith, love, and hope. And when we do, the outward actions take care of themselves (Matthew 23:25-26).</p>
<p>Consider talking about spiritual truths without giving behavioral application. I know that may be difficult at first because it’s not typically our approach, but try having people think and pray through the application points for themselves. Force them to think through these things beyond the all-too-typical “Sunday school answers.” Make sure they don’t just regurgitate what they’ve heard growing up, but instead are really thinking through it for themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>**This is an exert from <a href="http://www.collegeleader.org/store/products/College_Ministry_From_Scratch-30-1.html">College Ministry From Scratch</a>.</em></p>


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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This is part 2 of a series.  If you missed the first post, <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-1.html">click here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>From Indoctrinating to Imparting Wisdom</strong></p>
<p>Indoctrination is a fancy way of saying we teach people what we believe from an information standpoint—and at times even tell them how to apply that information to their lives. Church leaders have traditionally been good at giving good and concise information through classes, small group studies and sermons. But imparting wisdom is different.</p>
<p>If indoctrination is giving information, imparting wisdom is showing how that information is lived out. An indoctrinated person knows information, a wise person is deeply committed to living out what they know. In <em>College Ministry 101 </em>I shared about a guy in my college ministry named James. He was a great kid, well-liked by most. We were sitting down for coffee one day, and he told me straight out that he was bored with God and with church. He wasn’t bitter or frustrated; he was genuinely bored. I asked him why he thought he was bored, and he simply responded, “I’m just sick of going to church.”</p>
<p>Eventually, James explained that his entire Christian life revolved around the church campus where Bible studies were held and church events hosted. He was saturated by church culture and knew a lot of biblical information. He went from one Bible study or gathering to the next, and eventually he got bored—who wouldn’t? At the same time, he was living his life by his own rules. He wasn’t living an outlandish lifestyle, but he wasn’t living a Christ-like life either.</p>
<p>At the end of our conversation, I looked him straight in the eyes and said, “You’re right—your life is boring. Your problem is that you’re a smart guy and you know a lot of information, but you don’t obey any of it.” Just so you know, I’m not always that forward with people, but our relationship warranted it, and he needed to hear it. I went on even further, “I wonder if it would be so boring if you started living out what you know—if you were able to say you knew things from experience, rather than just regurgitating what you’ve been told?” He was a little taken aback, but he understood what I was saying.</p>
<p>Rather than teaching more information, consider shifting your focus to helping people be deeply committed to what they already know. Teaching college-age people is about encouraging deep commitment to simple truths much more than complex discussion or giving more information. I’m not suggesting you abandon teaching new information nor would I say we shouldn’t talk about the deeper concepts of faith. I’m simply suggesting a shift in focus to intentionally focusing on helping people embrace truth in their life  [...] 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is part 2 of a series.  If you missed the first post, <a href="http://www.collegeministrythoughts.com/college-ministry/5-adjustments-when-teaching-college-age-people-1.html">click here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>From Indoctrinating to Imparting Wisdom</strong></p>
<p>Indoctrination is a fancy way of saying we teach people what we believe from an information standpoint—and at times even tell them how to apply that information to their lives. Church leaders have traditionally been good at giving good and concise information through classes, small group studies and sermons. But imparting wisdom is different.</p>
<p>If indoctrination is giving information, imparting wisdom is showing how that information is lived out. An indoctrinated person knows information, a wise person is deeply committed to living out what they know. In <em>College Ministry 101 </em>I shared about a guy in my college ministry named James. He was a great kid, well-liked by most. We were sitting down for coffee one day, and he told me straight out that he was bored with God and with church. He wasn’t bitter or frustrated; he was genuinely bored. I asked him why he thought he was bored, and he simply responded, “I’m just sick of going to church.”</p>
<p>Eventually, James explained that his entire Christian life revolved around the church campus where Bible studies were held and church events hosted. He was saturated by church culture and knew a lot of biblical information. He went from one Bible study or gathering to the next, and eventually he got bored—who wouldn’t? At the same time, he was living his life by his own rules. He wasn’t living an outlandish lifestyle, but he wasn’t living a Christ-like life either.</p>
<p>At the end of our conversation, I looked him straight in the eyes and said, “You’re right—your life is boring. Your problem is that you’re a smart guy and you know a lot of information, but you don’t obey any of it.” Just so you know, I’m not always that forward with people, but our relationship warranted it, and he needed to hear it. I went on even further, “I wonder if it would be so boring if you started living out what you know—if you were able to say you knew things from experience, rather than just regurgitating what you’ve been told?” He was a little taken aback, but he understood what I was saying.</p>
<p>Rather than teaching more information, consider shifting your focus to helping people be deeply committed to what they already know. Teaching college-age people is about encouraging deep commitment to simple truths much more than complex discussion or giving more information. I’m not suggesting you abandon teaching new information nor would I say we shouldn’t talk about the deeper concepts of faith. I’m simply suggesting a shift in focus to intentionally focusing on helping people embrace truth in their life to the point where they <em>feel </em>and experience all the pressures of living it out. Why would we give more information if those we’re giving it to aren’t living out what we’ve already given!? It’s through experience of living out truth that wisdom is gained.</p>
<p>It may not surprise you at this point that I would suggest that connecting college-age people with older maturing adults is one of the best ways to do this. We need to connect them with people who actually live out their beliefs in life and preferably people that have been doing so for some time. So, by concentrating on connecting college-age people to the lives of people in your church you can do more than give them a sense of belonging in the church. You can also be meeting their most immediate needs of faith development by imparting wisdom through the life experience of others.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>**This is an exert from <a href="http://www.collegeleader.org/store/products/College_Ministry_From_Scratch-30-1.html">College Ministry From Scratch</a></em></p>


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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>When we are teaching children about God we need to be fairly black and white in our approach. Their minds are limited when it comes to abstract abilities, so we have to be very literal in our teaching. We have to avoid gray areas.</p>
<p>But college-age people are different.</p>
<p>Very different.</p>
<p>This is why I’ve found that shifting our approach to teaching in five specific ways greatly increases our effectiveness with college-age people. So I want to walk through these [<em>over the coming week or so</em>] and give you some thoughts as to the importance of each shift.</p>
<p><strong>1. From Conclusions to Assumptions </strong></p>
<p>Every church has some kind of doctrinal statement. This is basically a list of all the conclusions the church has come to in regards to major theological issues. In the church we typically teach these conclusions fairly well. We teach messages on them, we have classes, and the major issues are usually peppered throughout small group discussion, class material, and Sunday morning sermons. Kids consequently grow up learning what <em>we</em> believe, but it’s typically <em>our</em> conclusions they come away with. I believe this is one of the biggest reasons college-age people walk away from the church after graduating high school. Their leaving with <em>our </em>conclusions, not their own personal faith.</p>
<p>Junior high and high school ministries of course are seeking to help in this, but even then we can fall into a rut of simply teaching our conclusions. If we want them to have <em>their own </em>faith, at some point we’ll need to help them understand the assumptions we embrace that lead to the conclusions we hold so dearly.</p>
<p>For instance, I personally believe in the Deity of Christ—Christ is God in the flesh. I can point to various passages that lead me to believe this. I have clearly concluded in my own belief that God came to the earth as a human being named Jesus. But there is a lot I <em>assume </em>that allows me to come to that conclusion. I first have to assume there is a God. I have to assume that the Scriptures I’m reading are in fact His words. I have to assume that the version I’m reading is accurate. And I’m assuming a person named Jesus actually lived on the earth.</p>
<p>My point is that I cannot come to the conclusion I did without first assuming all these things to be true. And, it’s helping people think through the assumptions that eventually allows them to personally embrace our conclusions as their own.</p>
<p>Sound like a lot of work? Well, it is in ways, but not as much as you might think. Just begin to think about shifting your focus a little. Instead of just teaching conclusions and showing people  [...] 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we are teaching children about God we need to be fairly black and white in our approach. Their minds are limited when it comes to abstract abilities, so we have to be very literal in our teaching. We have to avoid gray areas.</p>
<p>But college-age people are different.</p>
<p>Very different.</p>
<p>This is why I’ve found that shifting our approach to teaching in five specific ways greatly increases our effectiveness with college-age people. So I want to walk through these [<em>over the coming week or so</em>] and give you some thoughts as to the importance of each shift.</p>
<p><strong>1. From Conclusions to Assumptions </strong></p>
<p>Every church has some kind of doctrinal statement. This is basically a list of all the conclusions the church has come to in regards to major theological issues. In the church we typically teach these conclusions fairly well. We teach messages on them, we have classes, and the major issues are usually peppered throughout small group discussion, class material, and Sunday morning sermons. Kids consequently grow up learning what <em>we</em> believe, but it’s typically <em>our</em> conclusions they come away with. I believe this is one of the biggest reasons college-age people walk away from the church after graduating high school. Their leaving with <em>our </em>conclusions, not their own personal faith.</p>
<p>Junior high and high school ministries of course are seeking to help in this, but even then we can fall into a rut of simply teaching our conclusions. If we want them to have <em>their own </em>faith, at some point we’ll need to help them understand the assumptions we embrace that lead to the conclusions we hold so dearly.</p>
<p>For instance, I personally believe in the Deity of Christ—Christ is God in the flesh. I can point to various passages that lead me to believe this. I have clearly concluded in my own belief that God came to the earth as a human being named Jesus. But there is a lot I <em>assume </em>that allows me to come to that conclusion. I first have to assume there is a God. I have to assume that the Scriptures I’m reading are in fact His words. I have to assume that the version I’m reading is accurate. And I’m assuming a person named Jesus actually lived on the earth.</p>
<p>My point is that I cannot come to the conclusion I did without first assuming all these things to be true. And, it’s helping people think through the assumptions that eventually allows them to personally embrace our conclusions as their own.</p>
<p>Sound like a lot of work? Well, it is in ways, but not as much as you might think. Just begin to think about shifting your focus a little. Instead of just teaching conclusions and showing people in the Bible where you get them from, begin helping people think through the assumptions behind the conclusions by asking questions. Forcing people to think through these is a great way of engaging their minds and also helping them formulate a faith of their own.</p>
<p>You can ask a group of people if they believe Jesus is God. If they respond positively, you can simply ask them why they believe that. Typically they know the conclusion, but if you ask them why you’ll likely see them squirm a little. If they respond with something like, “The Bible says so.” You can push back by asking, “Ok, give me three places the Bible says that.” To put this as simply as I can, instead of just articulating theological conclusions, we can force people to process through these things at a much deeper level by asking the why questions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>**This is an exert from <a href="http://www.collegeleader.org/store/products/College_Ministry_From_Scratch-30-1.html">College Ministry From Scratch</a>.</em></p>


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