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Comment on Subject Behaviour / Officer Response by Rob Munro

Rob Munro — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:00:06 +0000

This was really well written.

The public is drawn to shows like “Cops” and Youtube videos because violent crime is a novelty. Until you sit in a police car for five years, you can’t understand that violent crime is not the exception; it’s the rule. By that time, the exposure to violence has completely desensitized you. An “objective observer” is an impossibility.

This article bridges that gap by itemizing and quantifying all the underlying considerations that the cop processes unconsciously. Laying it out in the daylight like this is an eye-opener to both sides.

Thanks for an excellent read.

Comment on I put it to you, the public… by John Taylor

John Taylor — Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:07:51 +0000

Aside from the need for instantaneous information today; unfortunately, people tend not to read beyond the headlines and make the assumption anything they read in the news is factual.
The bias present in the news reporters themselves is an additional factor to consider.
The incident at Vancouver Airport a few years ago still causes me concern as to how it can appear justice is or was not served.
The delays encountered awaiting a thorough investigation can be trying but I do have faith in our system. It certainly isn’t perfect but the benefit of the doubt should always be given to any individual who is not convicted of a crime or offence, be they members of the public or those who serve them.

Consider the alternative.

Comment on I put it to you, the public… by Michael Simms

Michael Simms — Sat, 11 Jul 2015 14:54:15 +0000

This reminded me of the swift response from officials and public to a bus driver kicking a student off a bus based on a video snippet. The next week the bus driver was able to release s video with full context and the reaction was completely different.
http://m.calgarysun.com/2015/06/03/video-vindicates-edmonton-school-bus-driver

Comment on I put it to you, the public… by kingfreak9243

kingfreak9243 — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 22:35:49 +0000

Cst Ingram:
I understand your frustrations-for whatever it’s worth those in Law Enforcement have my complete and utter unconditional support. I think the majority of people support those in your profession as well.
I am sickened and frightened by the anti police bias occuring in North America, I would like to believe though, that the vast silent majority is fully aware of the hazards and challenges you and your colleagues face and support you as well.

Comment on I put it to you, the public… by Cst. Jim Ingram

Cst. Jim Ingram — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 20:01:31 +0000

David,

You make an incredibly important point and a point I try and share with the recruits I work with. While the policing profession, at times, seems to get beat up by a vocal portion of society, it really is a small portion. We can’t lose sight of the fact that a significant portion of society either accepts or appreciates the job that’s done. So thank you for writing that!

Comment on I put it to you, the public… by Cst. Jim Ingram

Cst. Jim Ingram — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 19:36:05 +0000

Curt,

I wouldn’t say this is frustration around a single event. It seems lately, especially with the growing adoption of social media, there’s almost a story weekly from somewhere in North America that paints a horrible picture without context involving the police.

You pose an interesting question; What’s easier, changing the way people think or the system that controls the information flow? Just as you suggest it’s not an easy fix. I think with the proliferation of social media, the police are behind the curve. Part of the problem is balancing information with ongoing investigations and privacy concerns. I do think that we, the police, can do a better job of pushing the relevant information to the community. After all, they are our headlines, perhaps we can find a better way to publish them in a timely fashion.

With more information being shared (and this blog is certainly an attempt), perhaps the way people think will naturally change creating that balance.

Comment on I put it to you, the public… by David Noiles

David Noiles — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 18:52:56 +0000

more than the majority of the public, do put blind faith in the police, with good measure. The job that you and your peers do is a job that everyone else dosent want, and as society’s not just here, but everywhere get more and more violent, those of us who are not tryng to nitpick everything that you are forced to have to deal with,could care less what media outlets have to say, we know its biased, and we know that they are just trying to create controversy, sure not all policemen men or women are created equal and sure there can be situations that could have been handled differently, but those opions are all in hindsight, and made by people who were not put in that situation, like i said the majority of people who pay taxes and try and live a normal life they feel more sympathy for the officer who’s hand was forced and now has to life with his life going forward, we respect our officers, we respect the job that you do, not because its dangerous, not because we sleep better at night knowing you all do everything you can to help us feel safe without even knowing us, but because plain and simple we dont want to have to do your job, to have to put our loved ones through what you put your loved ones through. Thank you for everything that you and your peers are and do, we appreciate it from the bottom of our hearts, and on behalf of society that dosent feel like you deserve to be dragged through the mud because of some people who choose to but a negative spin on what you have to endure, rather than the real problem which is the fact that there are countless amounts of people who abuse themselves to a point where they can no longer function properly than want to blame the system, thank you thank you thank you

Comment on I put it to you, the public… by Judy Smith

Judy Smith — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 18:11:26 +0000

It is always so easy to criticize when not there…. too easy to come to a conclusion based on anecdotal or second hand accounts. Questions will alway arise as to “why” or “didn’t they know”…. Public scrutiny is sometimes a good thing and at times a hard thing to see past. WE are ver lucky to have a great Police force here in Delta, and I for one would be cautious about leaping to conclusions as in the above scenario.

Keep up the great work DPD.

Comment on I put it to you, the public… by Curt Appleby

Curt Appleby — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 17:39:55 +0000

Hi Jim,

To me, this looks like a very, well constructed piece based on years of frustration about one particular event.
It begs the question, though: Is it easier to change the way people think, or change the system that controls the flow of information?
Obviously neither is an overnight fix, but is it a stretch to think that a medium ground could eventually be found?
Then again, maybe I’m way off. What do you think?

Comment on Subject Behaviour / Officer Response by I put it to you, the public… | 24×7 blog with Cst. Jim Ingram

I put it to you, the public… | 24×7 blog with Cst. Jim Ingram — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:25:54 +0000

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