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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/rss2full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><rss xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" version="2.0"> <channel><title>Comments for 520life.org</title> <link>http://520life.org</link> <description>We are therefore Christ's ambassadors...</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:51:47 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/CommentsFor520life" /><feedburner:info xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0" uri="commentsfor520life" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><item><title>Comment on This is church by Tasha</title><link>http://520life.org/2010/03/this-is-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1786</link> <dc:creator>Tasha</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:51:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://520life.org/?p=614#comment-1786</guid> <description>amen.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amen.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Introducing the newest Leake by Jessica Dumont-Oatman</title><link>http://520life.org/2009/02/introducing-the-newest-leake/comment-page-1/#comment-1754</link> <dc:creator>Jessica Dumont-Oatman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:39:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.520life.org/2009/02/02/introducing-the-newest-leake/#comment-1754</guid> <description>Hi Chris,
It's been a long time but I just found your site and wanted to congratulate you on the newest addition to your family. They all are just adorable and you guys make one cute family. Continue the hard work you are doing in spreading the word of God. It is only through Him that we have hope. God Bless.
-Jessica and Family
www.caringbridge.org/visit/montanaoatman</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,<br
/> It&#8217;s been a long time but I just found your site and wanted to congratulate you on the newest addition to your family. They all are just adorable and you guys make one cute family. Continue the hard work you are doing in spreading the word of God. It is only through Him that we have hope. God Bless.<br
/> -Jessica and Family<br
/> <a
href="http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/montanaoatman" rel="nofollow">http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/montanaoatman</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Books for beginning missionaries by Friday Finds December 25 2009</title><link>http://520life.org/2009/12/beginning-missionary-books/comment-page-1/#comment-1321</link> <dc:creator>Friday Finds December 25 2009</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:53:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://520life.org/?p=601#comment-1321</guid> <description>[...] Books for beginning missionaries [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Books for beginning missionaries [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on The most important spiritual discipline for new disciples by Rick</title><link>http://520life.org/2008/01/most-important-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-1309</link> <dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:03:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.520life.org/2008/01/22/most-important-discipline/#comment-1309</guid> <description>Hey Daniel,I read your post and I certainly will not burn or stone you.I'm just gonna lay it all out for you my friend as the the Lord has laid it out for me over the past 4 years.All of theses spiritual disciplines the Lord Jesus had taught His disciples came after He had asked them to "first" be with Him.This tells me that the Lord Jesus wanted to develop a personal love relationship with each of His disciples first.Then Jesus demonstrated (in His own life) to them the needs to discipline their lives spiritually to guard against their own tendency to sin and defend against the devil.So, I believe that there is no one all important spiritual discipline. They all work together in our walk and communion with the Lord. Amen?I think you would benefit greatly from a Ministry called Communion with God Ministries. The fella that started that ministry has written several books about hearing God's voice. They are tremendous reading. Please write me back when you get the time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Daniel,I read your post and I certainly will not burn or stone you.I&#8217;m just gonna lay it all out for you my friend as the the Lord has laid it out for me over the past 4 years.All of theses spiritual disciplines the Lord Jesus had taught His disciples came after He had asked them to &#8220;first&#8221; be with Him.This tells me that the Lord Jesus wanted to develop a personal love relationship with each of His disciples first.Then Jesus demonstrated (in His own life) to them the needs to discipline their lives spiritually to guard against their own tendency to sin and defend against the devil.So, I believe that there is no one all important spiritual discipline. They all work together in our walk and communion with the Lord. Amen?I think you would benefit greatly from a Ministry called Communion with God Ministries. The fella that started that ministry has written several books about hearing God&#8217;s voice. They are tremendous reading. Please write me back when you get the time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on How to develop better theology by Chris</title><link>http://520life.org/2009/03/how-to-develop-better-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-1306</link> <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:01:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.520life.org/2009/03/20/how-to-develop-better-theology/#comment-1306</guid> <description>The fortress mentality can really get in the way, huh?  I'm glad to see more believers moving away from being scared of cultures to interacting with them and finding the redeeming characteristics in them.Thanks, Sarah!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fortress mentality can really get in the way, huh?  I&#8217;m glad to see more believers moving away from being scared of cultures to interacting with them and finding the redeeming characteristics in them.</p><p>Thanks, Sarah!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on How to develop better theology by Sarah</title><link>http://520life.org/2009/03/how-to-develop-better-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-1273</link> <dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.520life.org/2009/03/20/how-to-develop-better-theology/#comment-1273</guid> <description>I think about this all the time! I absolutely believe that this is a sure-fire way to get develop better theology (unless one has a fortress mentality when encountering other cultures). I am so encouraged by this post. You put it so well.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think about this all the time! I absolutely believe that this is a sure-fire way to get develop better theology (unless one has a fortress mentality when encountering other cultures). I am so encouraged by this post. You put it so well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on I’m quitting church planting by Sarah</title><link>http://520life.org/2008/01/quitting-church-planting/comment-page-1/#comment-1272</link> <dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:28:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.520life.org/2008/01/25/quitting-church-planting/#comment-1272</guid> <description>Wow, I love it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I love it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Contextualization: Can a Muslim or a Hindu be a Christian? by Chris</title><link>http://520life.org/2008/04/contextualization/comment-page-1/#comment-1264</link> <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:38:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.520life.org/2008/04/23/contextualization-can-a-muslim-or-a-hindu-be-a-christian/#comment-1264</guid> <description>Sarah, thanks for joining the conversation, I love what you had to say.  In my opinion, I think you've nailed it about the contextualization of the gospel in every culture.  That's a very interesting perspective you shared on Mormonism; I hadn't heard that before.  God is teaching me a lot right now about the difference between religion and the kingdom.  It seems that any religious activity outside of what God defined as pure religion only ever stands in the way of knowing God.  In light of that, I think your statement about religion as culture is very interesting, and I love what you said about incorporating the good and rejecting or reinterpreting the bad.I hope you continue to be a part of discussions on this blog!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, thanks for joining the conversation, I love what you had to say.  In my opinion, I think you&#8217;ve nailed it about the contextualization of the gospel in every culture.  That&#8217;s a very interesting perspective you shared on Mormonism; I hadn&#8217;t heard that before.  God is teaching me a lot right now about the difference between religion and the kingdom.  It seems that any religious activity outside of what God defined as pure religion only ever stands in the way of knowing God.  In light of that, I think your statement about religion as culture is very interesting, and I love what you said about incorporating the good and rejecting or reinterpreting the bad.</p><p>I hope you continue to be a part of discussions on this blog!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Contextualization: Can a Muslim or a Hindu be a Christian? by Sarah</title><link>http://520life.org/2008/04/contextualization/comment-page-1/#comment-1254</link> <dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:36:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.520life.org/2008/04/23/contextualization-can-a-muslim-or-a-hindu-be-a-christian/#comment-1254</guid> <description>Hi Chris,
I love your heart. I just happened upon your blog this morning, so apologies for entering this conversation a year and a half late.I wanted to comment on your comparison of Hinduism to Mormonism vs. Native Americans or Jews. I live in Utah, and Mormonism is every bit as much a culture as Hinduism is, in my opinion. There are Latter-day Saints who believe in multiple gods, there are Latter-day Saints who believe in one God, and there are people who culturally identify as Latter-day Saints who are agnostics and atheists. Also, there are Latter-day Saint followers of Jesus. There is wide diversity of belief within the LDS Church and culture. I don't mean to be nitpicky, as what I want to say actually has little to do with Mormonism.Is it possible that everything we consider to be a religion is really a culture, including American evangelical Christianity? That it is part of our jobs, as followers of Jesus, to incorporate into our walks the parts of our culture that are conducive to faith in Christ, and reject or reinterpret the parts that aren't?Westerners tend to view contextualization through a lens of "how do we contextualize the gospel for this foreign culture" without realizing that it is contextualized even for our own culture. I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that it's not until I'm able to see the ways in which I have erroneously viewed evangelical Christianity as the uncorrupted, doctrinally pure faith (when really, it is a culture in its own right) that I'm able not to look down on other cultures. I want to be able to internalize the fact that a Hindu follower of Jesus is not a second-class Christian, that she is every inch as much a part of the Kingdom as I am, and that I have my own cultural baggage that I bring to the gospel, just as she does.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,<br
/> I love your heart. I just happened upon your blog this morning, so apologies for entering this conversation a year and a half late.</p><p>I wanted to comment on your comparison of Hinduism to Mormonism vs. Native Americans or Jews. I live in Utah, and Mormonism is every bit as much a culture as Hinduism is, in my opinion. There are Latter-day Saints who believe in multiple gods, there are Latter-day Saints who believe in one God, and there are people who culturally identify as Latter-day Saints who are agnostics and atheists. Also, there are Latter-day Saint followers of Jesus. There is wide diversity of belief within the LDS Church and culture. I don&#8217;t mean to be nitpicky, as what I want to say actually has little to do with Mormonism.</p><p>Is it possible that everything we consider to be a religion is really a culture, including American evangelical Christianity? That it is part of our jobs, as followers of Jesus, to incorporate into our walks the parts of our culture that are conducive to faith in Christ, and reject or reinterpret the parts that aren&#8217;t?</p><p>Westerners tend to view contextualization through a lens of &#8220;how do we contextualize the gospel for this foreign culture&#8221; without realizing that it is contextualized even for our own culture. I&#8217;m quickly coming to the conclusion that it&#8217;s not until I&#8217;m able to see the ways in which I have erroneously viewed evangelical Christianity as the uncorrupted, doctrinally pure faith (when really, it is a culture in its own right) that I&#8217;m able not to look down on other cultures. I want to be able to internalize the fact that a Hindu follower of Jesus is not a second-class Christian, that she is every inch as much a part of the Kingdom as I am, and that I have my own cultural baggage that I bring to the gospel, just as she does.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>Comment on Contextualization: Can a Muslim or a Hindu be a Christian? by Chris</title><link>http://520life.org/2008/04/contextualization/comment-page-1/#comment-1234</link> <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.520life.org/2008/04/23/contextualization-can-a-muslim-or-a-hindu-be-a-christian/#comment-1234</guid> <description>Thanks for weighing in, Tabitha!If Hinduism is a religion, then you're absolutely right.  The people we talked with in India, though, were adamant that being Hindu means belonging to a culture, not a religion.  They emphasized that within the Hindu culture is a polytheistic religion that most Hindus follow (which we call Hinduism).  Likewise, I understand a distinction exists between being Muslim (a culture) and Islam (a religion to which most Muslims adhere).  If this is the case, then if a Muslim can't be a Christ-follower, a Jew can't be one either.  Jews belong to a culture into which they're born, and most Jews adhere to the religion of Judaism.  Messianic Jews are then Jews who don't adhere to Judaism; rather, they follow Christ.A Jew can't cease to be a Jew any more than a Mixed Person in our area can cease to be a Mixed Person or a Tree Person can cease to be a Tree Person (pseudonyms).  I understand that this extends to Hindus and Muslims.  A Hindu can't cease to be Hindu, but they CAN follow Christ instead of following Hinduism.  A Muslim can't cease to be Muslim, but they CAN stop following Islam and start following Christ.These issues are very complicated, and they are tough for us to get our Western minds around, as Ignatius Anand has pointed out in his comment.  We have been trained to view being Muslim and being Hindu as completely synonymous with belonging to the religion of Hinduism or to Islam, but this may not actually be the case.  Those of us involved in one way or another in cross-cultural ministry really need to wrestle with these issues, and we need to approach other cultures/religions with extreme caution.  We need to be learners.  In some cases, Western missionaries have done a fair bit of damage by coming in as teachers before being learners and making assumptions about the cultures and religions we're dealing with that we ought not have made.We are wrestling with these same issues in our work.  When people in our area say they're Catholic, they don't necessarily mean what we think they mean.  The lines here between religion and culture are blurry.  We're trying to learn to not make assumptions.I think you nailed the most important thing.  We must preach the pure gospel.  Too often, we Western missionaries have bought into preaching religion rather than preaching Christ.  If we simply preach Christ, we can trust the Holy Spirit to bring conviction and to show people exactly how they need to apply the commands of Christ in their lives.  The Holy Spirit working in the heart of the believer can discern these issues far better than we can.Thanks a lot for your input, Tabitha.  I appreciate your being part of our conversation!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for weighing in, Tabitha!</p><p>If Hinduism is a religion, then you&#8217;re absolutely right.  The people we talked with in India, though, were adamant that being Hindu means belonging to a culture, not a religion.  They emphasized that within the Hindu culture is a polytheistic religion that most Hindus follow (which we call Hinduism).  Likewise, I understand a distinction exists between being Muslim (a culture) and Islam (a religion to which most Muslims adhere).  If this is the case, then if a Muslim can&#8217;t be a Christ-follower, a Jew can&#8217;t be one either.  Jews belong to a culture into which they&#8217;re born, and most Jews adhere to the religion of Judaism.  Messianic Jews are then Jews who don&#8217;t adhere to Judaism; rather, they follow Christ.</p><p>A Jew can&#8217;t cease to be a Jew any more than a Mixed Person in our area can cease to be a Mixed Person or a Tree Person can cease to be a Tree Person (pseudonyms).  I understand that this extends to Hindus and Muslims.  A Hindu can&#8217;t cease to be Hindu, but they CAN follow Christ instead of following Hinduism.  A Muslim can&#8217;t cease to be Muslim, but they CAN stop following Islam and start following Christ.</p><p>These issues are very complicated, and they are tough for us to get our Western minds around, as Ignatius Anand has pointed out in his comment.  We have been trained to view being Muslim and being Hindu as completely synonymous with belonging to the religion of Hinduism or to Islam, but this may not actually be the case.  Those of us involved in one way or another in cross-cultural ministry really need to wrestle with these issues, and we need to approach other cultures/religions with extreme caution.  We need to be learners.  In some cases, Western missionaries have done a fair bit of damage by coming in as teachers before being learners and making assumptions about the cultures and religions we&#8217;re dealing with that we ought not have made.</p><p>We are wrestling with these same issues in our work.  When people in our area say they&#8217;re Catholic, they don&#8217;t necessarily mean what we think they mean.  The lines here between religion and culture are blurry.  We&#8217;re trying to learn to not make assumptions.</p><p>I think you nailed the most important thing.  We must preach the pure gospel.  Too often, we Western missionaries have bought into preaching religion rather than preaching Christ.  If we simply preach Christ, we can trust the Holy Spirit to bring conviction and to show people exactly how they need to apply the commands of Christ in their lives.  The Holy Spirit working in the heart of the believer can discern these issues far better than we can.</p><p>Thanks a lot for your input, Tabitha.  I appreciate your being part of our conversation!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!-- This site's performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Dramatically improve the speed and reliability of your blog!

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