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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Jane Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Berry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Clare - Good point on school children; in our second &#039;wave&#039; of promotion, our local fieldstaff are talking to schools and teachers. We really wanted to include &#039;SODIS&#039; in this trial - in fact the Kit Yamoyo packaging would support that, but the concerted view was, there were too many variables/innovations already - and SODIS is not yet adopted b y the Zambian Ministry of Health. (We do promote the use of safe water though). 

Finally, one thing that SSS does not do is provide the underlying micro-nutrients that are often lacking and mean that the child cannot fight off the diarrhoea in the first place. Which is where the combined ORS/Zinc Kit recommended by WHO/UNICEF comes in.

There is some interesting recent research in the latest Lancet series (June 06) on this: eg &#039;Preventive zinc supplementation in populations at risk of zinc deficiency reduces the risk of morbidity from child hood diarrhoea and acute lower respiratory infections and might increase linear growth and weight gain in infants and young children. A review by Yakoob and colleagues assessed 18 studies from developing countries and showed that preventive zinc supplementation reduced the incidence of diarrhoea by 13% and pneumonia by 19%, with a non-significant 9% reduction in all-cause mortality&#039;.  From what we are finding in the field, and what mothers and Health Centre staff tell us, the effect of Zinc supplementation WITH ORS in the same Kit is indeed promising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clare &#8211; Good point on school children; in our second &#8216;wave&#8217; of promotion, our local fieldstaff are talking to schools and teachers. We really wanted to include &#8216;SODIS&#8217; in this trial &#8211; in fact the Kit Yamoyo packaging would support that, but the concerted view was, there were too many variables/innovations already &#8211; and SODIS is not yet adopted b y the Zambian Ministry of Health. (We do promote the use of safe water though). </p>
<p>Finally, one thing that SSS does not do is provide the underlying micro-nutrients that are often lacking and mean that the child cannot fight off the diarrhoea in the first place. Which is where the combined ORS/Zinc Kit recommended by WHO/UNICEF comes in.</p>
<p>There is some interesting recent research in the latest Lancet series (June 06) on this: eg &#8216;Preventive zinc supplementation in populations at risk of zinc deficiency reduces the risk of morbidity from child hood diarrhoea and acute lower respiratory infections and might increase linear growth and weight gain in infants and young children. A review by Yakoob and colleagues assessed 18 studies from developing countries and showed that preventive zinc supplementation reduced the incidence of diarrhoea by 13% and pneumonia by 19%, with a non-significant 9% reduction in all-cause mortality&#8217;.  From what we are finding in the field, and what mothers and Health Centre staff tell us, the effect of Zinc supplementation WITH ORS in the same Kit is indeed promising.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Via Email</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was good to read this latest blog.  I am glad you posted it as my sister-in-law had also put that argument to us when we were in the UK in April  and I had been thinking about it. I came to the same conclusion -  that remembering the right proportions and  mxing ORS yourself is not that easy and the mother’s confidence that she is doing the right thing is an important factor in persisting with the treatment. 

So although it is kind of sad to commodify and medicalise SSS the balance of the argument is in favour of ColaLife’s approach.
 
Tell Rohit to work on a layman’s way of saying  ‘adverse risk of hypertonicity  on net fluid absorption’.

J]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was good to read this latest blog.  I am glad you posted it as my sister-in-law had also put that argument to us when we were in the UK in April  and I had been thinking about it. I came to the same conclusion &#8211;  that remembering the right proportions and  mxing ORS yourself is not that easy and the mother’s confidence that she is doing the right thing is an important factor in persisting with the treatment. </p>
<p>So although it is kind of sad to commodify and medicalise SSS the balance of the argument is in favour of ColaLife’s approach.</p>
<p>Tell Rohit to work on a layman’s way of saying  ‘adverse risk of hypertonicity  on net fluid absorption’.</p>
<p>J</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Jane Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That paragraph is meant to pose, as a series of 4 rhetorical questions, the assumptions that are sometimes put to us, ie:

i) Is making SSS really simple? 

ii) Are sugar and salt always available in a rural home? 

iii) Is it easy to feed homemade SSS to a child? and 

iv) Does SSS do the same job?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That paragraph is meant to pose, as a series of 4 rhetorical questions, the assumptions that are sometimes put to us, ie:</p>
<p>i) Is making SSS really simple? </p>
<p>ii) Are sugar and salt always available in a rural home? </p>
<p>iii) Is it easy to feed homemade SSS to a child? and </p>
<p>iv) Does SSS do the same job?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Via Facebook</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Response from T (above):
I was simply referring to this statement from the ColaLife post: &quot;Assumptions about what is right or easy or appropriate for an illiterate mother or carer can’t be taken for granted. Is the SSS recipe really ‘simple’ for her?&quot;. 

Perhaps I have misunderstood it, but the implication here does rather seem to be that does seem to be that making SSS might be beyond an illiterate mother/carer&#039;s capacity. 

Anyway, glad to hear that your approach is complementing existing ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response from T (above):<br />
I was simply referring to this statement from the ColaLife post: &#8220;Assumptions about what is right or easy or appropriate for an illiterate mother or carer can’t be taken for granted. Is the SSS recipe really ‘simple’ for her?&#8221;. </p>
<p>Perhaps I have misunderstood it, but the implication here does rather seem to be that does seem to be that making SSS might be beyond an illiterate mother/carer&#8217;s capacity. </p>
<p>Anyway, glad to hear that your approach is complementing existing ones.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Jane Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have not come across anyone saying that mothers cannot or should not be taught to make SSS at home. 

For the record - ColaLife works closely with rural health facilities; most/all have an ORS Corner and they teach how to make SSS. The 4 publications mentioned in the blog post give some very well grounded responses - both for and against ORS/SSS. 

The science tells us, however, that Low Osmolarity ORS combined with Zinc is clinically superior to home-made SSS. But mothers should know about all options to rehydrate a sick child - and breast feeding as number one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not come across anyone saying that mothers cannot or should not be taught to make SSS at home. </p>
<p>For the record &#8211; ColaLife works closely with rural health facilities; most/all have an ORS Corner and they teach how to make SSS. The 4 publications mentioned in the blog post give some very well grounded responses &#8211; both for and against ORS/SSS. </p>
<p>The science tells us, however, that Low Osmolarity ORS combined with Zinc is clinically superior to home-made SSS. But mothers should know about all options to rehydrate a sick child &#8211; and breast feeding as number one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Clare Hanbury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare Hanbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While we might want to give up on this generation of some mothers in some places finding SSS too complicated lets invest in very good health education of the children who can (easily) learn about the SSS recipe at primary school and over and over again if possible - in science, maths, language classes etc. Its about putting power into their hands and giving them something to try. I think of ORS as the second step once household interventions have not worked (and chidlren can also be taught to recognise the signs here too). Its also important for people to think clearly about what gave their children diarrhoea in the first place and what exists to help them take control of that eg SODIS. If we keep the focus on medicalising and curing then these simple preventable, treatable issues will linger on for decades longer than they need too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we might want to give up on this generation of some mothers in some places finding SSS too complicated lets invest in very good health education of the children who can (easily) learn about the SSS recipe at primary school and over and over again if possible &#8211; in science, maths, language classes etc. Its about putting power into their hands and giving them something to try. I think of ORS as the second step once household interventions have not worked (and chidlren can also be taught to recognise the signs here too). Its also important for people to think clearly about what gave their children diarrhoea in the first place and what exists to help them take control of that eg SODIS. If we keep the focus on medicalising and curing then these simple preventable, treatable issues will linger on for decades longer than they need too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Via Facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With you, T, especially from the land where ORS/SSS was invented (Bangladesh). BRAC systematically taught generations of mothers how to make SSS in the days before ORS was marketed and their work formed the basis for scaling this up. Now, ORS is available in the market, and is bought here and used by pretty much everyone too, but SSS works as well as ORS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With you, T, especially from the land where ORS/SSS was invented (Bangladesh). BRAC systematically taught generations of mothers how to make SSS in the days before ORS was marketed and their work formed the basis for scaling this up. Now, ORS is available in the market, and is bought here and used by pretty much everyone too, but SSS works as well as ORS!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Via Facebook</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am ambivalent about these arguments. 

First of all, I think it is wrong and a bit patronizing to assume that an illiterate or semi-literate mother can&#039;t be taught to make SSS at home. God knows much of the IYCF messaging which is seen as such an important promotion platform is much more complex. 

Secondly, while I don&#039;t doubt that the mixture offered in the kits is clinically more effective than plain sugar and salt solution, I wouldn&#039;t want to see mothers getting into a kind of &#039;kit or nothing&#039; mindset in which, lacking access to the kits, and steered away from SSS by the kit marketing, they ended up not treating the child at all. 

Finally, if mothers are saying they don&#039;t have sugar and salt at home, why should we expect that they&#039;d have the kits? I&#039;ll just add that I think ColaLife is a really innovative and interesting project, but I think these questions require more robust and intellectually grounded responses.

T]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am ambivalent about these arguments. </p>
<p>First of all, I think it is wrong and a bit patronizing to assume that an illiterate or semi-literate mother can&#8217;t be taught to make SSS at home. God knows much of the IYCF messaging which is seen as such an important promotion platform is much more complex. </p>
<p>Secondly, while I don&#8217;t doubt that the mixture offered in the kits is clinically more effective than plain sugar and salt solution, I wouldn&#8217;t want to see mothers getting into a kind of &#8216;kit or nothing&#8217; mindset in which, lacking access to the kits, and steered away from SSS by the kit marketing, they ended up not treating the child at all. </p>
<p>Finally, if mothers are saying they don&#8217;t have sugar and salt at home, why should we expect that they&#8217;d have the kits? I&#8217;ll just add that I think ColaLife is a really innovative and interesting project, but I think these questions require more robust and intellectually grounded responses.</p>
<p>T</p>
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		<dc:creator>Via email</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Simon
 
Very interesting article. The one thing that really comes across is; since “the greatest discovery in the 60’s” the same problems still exist, diarrhoea and child mortality.  Yes, it’s right to sell ORS. As long as it gets the treatment out to where it’s needed, faster and in a manner that will be used, it’s right!
 
To those who challenge whether it is right or wrong, I simply say “after all the years, all the money and all the education, why does the problem still exist?”. Until you [the challengers etc.] come up with answers to that question, it is definitely RIGHT!
 
B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon</p>
<p>Very interesting article. The one thing that really comes across is; since “the greatest discovery in the 60’s” the same problems still exist, diarrhoea and child mortality.  Yes, it’s right to sell ORS. As long as it gets the treatment out to where it’s needed, faster and in a manner that will be used, it’s right!</p>
<p>To those who challenge whether it is right or wrong, I simply say “after all the years, all the money and all the education, why does the problem still exist?”. Until you [the challengers etc.] come up with answers to that question, it is definitely RIGHT!</p>
<p>B</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right to sell ORS to poor people when they could make their own? by Bill Brieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Brieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, salt, sugar and water are &#039;simple&#039; elements, but as Jane mentions, the practice is not always &#039;simple.&#039; In Nigeria we found that poor people often do not keep much sugar at home; they may not have standard measuring devices (different size spoons and bottles).  Also there was the belief that sugar can cause the diarrhea to deteriorate into dysentery.  No one said it tasted nasty, which in fact it doesn&#039;t taste like much. ORS packets still require having a standard measure of water, but they ensure that all the ingredients are available in an acceptable package. Jane is right that continued fluids and feeding are an essential component of diarrhea control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, salt, sugar and water are &#8216;simple&#8217; elements, but as Jane mentions, the practice is not always &#8216;simple.&#8217; In Nigeria we found that poor people often do not keep much sugar at home; they may not have standard measuring devices (different size spoons and bottles).  Also there was the belief that sugar can cause the diarrhea to deteriorate into dysentery.  No one said it tasted nasty, which in fact it doesn&#8217;t taste like much. ORS packets still require having a standard measure of water, but they ensure that all the ingredients are available in an acceptable package. Jane is right that continued fluids and feeding are an essential component of diarrhea control.</p>
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