having said that, I would be completely insane if I didn’t think the UN-chartered founding of Israel didn’t have an impact. And no one said that the US and others had no part to play in its establishment.

But it wasn’t the US, or any single nation that founded it. It was by mandate of the United Nations.

and while the impact was significant, rather than accepting the Partition of 48, a two state solution, the Arab world chose to attack. Let’s see… hmmm, the collective armies of Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria against a rag-tag group of soldiers making up the Haganah, Irgun, and a few thousand settlers.

As far as my commentary on the Anointed One is concerned, he is the greatest single threat to the future of this country that America has ever seen. And that’s my educated opinion and the voice of my collective experiences speaking.

By the way, ad hominem attacks really are not necessary. They make you look foolish. And I’m neither ignorant nor as you say, “massively misinformed and ill-educated”. Because you don’t agree with a single thing I’ve written or posted is no reason to attack me. This country is great because we can discuss and disagree. And still remain civilized. So no matter how much it may hurt, please try to be civilized.

by the way, if you should want to read some really, REALLY entertaining articles, go visit Obama Crimes. That guy is freakin’ nuts….

And therfor by extension you don’t think the USA or any other world power had any part in the foundation of Isreal??????

I agree with you on one point.. Ignornance is no excuse for bad decisions.

Man atleast my side waited for Bush to actually fuck up before we started talking shit.

You guys made the shit up from day one, and anything you’ve got to say today or next year or at the end of the term is going to be built on a foundation of lies, deceit and bullshit.. aimed mostly at yourselfs..

Do ya know denial is a medical condition. They both treat and hospitalize people for it.

It is really something you should take a look at.. or how do you say with your quote.. Something for the left to ponder?

Well ponder your denial.. Just try for one day to objectivly look at your personal decisions and rationale.. Try and play devil’s advocate.. Try and see any holes in your own argument. Because frankly sir there are plenty. And until you are able to personaly see these problems and move past I hearby as a fellow citizen remove your right to free speach and tell you to take down your webpage..

wait arn’t we at this point?? taking away peoples rights… Oh shit they arnt rich white americans I forgot they dont get to act as case examples…

Man i beat around the bush but lets make this clear.

YOu are ignornat .. not stupid.. not at all.. just massivly misinformed and illeducated.

I really really pray you see you’re own faults while pointing out others.

As for the government branches, I’m not an expert as well. I think it all ties into the Constitution to be honest with you. The United States Navy, as well as the Judicial branch were both created under the Constitution. As far as oversight authority, I’m not sure about that either.

Thanks for the article. While I haven’t made the time to review the links you provided (and I will eventually), my biggest issue and questions stems from the apparent constitutional issue here – one of oversight authority.

While I’m neither a constitutional expert nor a constitutional lawyer, it is my understanding that each branch of the military ultimately answer to the executive (civilian oversight) and operate with the limited consent of the legislative branches of government.

So where does the judicial come in? Or does it? That’s what I can’t seem to get answers to.

I have to say that I’m proud of the service you guys provide our country. And I thank you for it. We don’t say that often enough. And too many people take for granted what you and the thousand of other men and women in the Service do for each of us. And, although my dad is and by uncle was a graduate of West Point, I can honestly say that in the grand scheme of things, we’re all part of the same American family. God Bless…

November 13, 2007

Navy Buoyed by Appeals Court Ruling

PEARL HARBOR – Navy officials said they are optimistic that a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals today ordered a lower court to rewrite restrictions on the Navy’s use of sonar in certain Southern California exercises

The Navy had asked the appeals court to overturn a preliminary injunction that was granted by a U.S. district judge on Aug. 6, 2007, that bars the Navy from using active sonar in certain multi-ship exercises off Southern California through January 2009. That injunction was granted in a lawsuit filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council and other environmental and animal protection groups. In over 40 years of sonar training in the Southern California Operating Area, no stranding or injury of a marine mammal has been associated with the Navy’s use of sonar.

“We are encouraged that the appeals court found the original injunction was too broad and ordered the district court to tailor mitigation conditions under which the Navy may conduct its training,” said Navy spokesman Capt. Scott Gureck.

Whenever sonar is used in large exercises, the Navy employs 29 separate marine mammal protective measures, which were coordinated with and approved by the National Marine Fisheries Service.

“There’s no scientific proof that sonar by itself has ever directly killed or injured whales or other marine mammals,” Gureck said.

Adm. Robert Willard, commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, said: “The use of sonar is a fundamental principle in anti-submarine warfare. It is very, very important that our Sailors are proficient in applications of active sonar and in their ability to hunt submarines. It’s a perishable skill. If we don’t practice it a lot we are not going to be good at it. With the proliferation of very quiet diesel submarines throughout the world, and particularly here in the Pacific, it’s very important to me that our ships, submarines and our Sailors have this skill.”

Read the full article at http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=33265
For more information, see http://www.whalesandsonar.navy.mil/

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