Where should we go to find “real” PvP'ers, Mord? Enlighten us?

What, you ashamed to say you can't do real PVP and spend your time bullying players who can't fight back?

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“Next time a mission runner blows me up, I’m gonna petition it and get my vigil reimbursed by linking to Stabs’ post…by all accounts, it should work right?”

i fail to see how you've linked someone shooting you because you looted a wreck, and using exploits to extend a 15 min aggro timer to over an hour? please explain, id honestly be interested to know

As far as I know it's possible to change your ship directly next to the target (missionrunner in this case). I do believe, that this is quiet familiar to remote repping which does get give the remote repper pilot aggression. It is just a thought but the orca alt isn't such a big issue like that agressiontimers bug/exploit (who knows?). In the end it doesn't fill “right”. Maybe I'm just a too good guy or something.

In the end a change about the orca alt would be a lesser issue, cause it would only alter just a bit the tactics of ninjas and only of those that really use the alt next to the fight.

On the other hand, I do agree with him, that this 'mechanic' doesn't make sense, and should be considered an exploit / fixed. The only way the agression timer should be extended is by having the person who's timer is running actively doing something, not someone doing something while he's doing nothing.

So on both accounts, I think CCP here is doing something wrong.

if the missionrunner does nothing else just waits out that the agressiontimer that he started (!!!) runs out. The ninja started his first aggression timer by looting and that got extended by the mission runner shooting him. These are two different timers. It makes absolutely no sense that they are connected to each other. Everytime the ninja shoots/webs/scrambles/loots wrecks his aggressiontimer should get extended but not the one of the missionrunner.

And before anyone says “thyrum hates ninjas and is carebear with tears in his eyes” I'd like to say that that's absolutely wrong. I really like every career in eve. It's funny to read all that stuff what ninjas, mission runners, plex runners, large scale pvpers, pirates and on and on do and like. I for myself prefer the more honourable ways (like honouring ransoms and more or less no use of metagaming or scamming). But anyhow there are some gamemechanics that are IMHO not okay. Some may work as intended and this one, well I'd say CCP never thought about the ways it could get abused. It like Morpheus says in Matrix in the jump program: “some rules can be bent, some others can be broken”. Rules that can be broken shall get fixed asap and the user punished. Rules that are bender should be looked after and thought about if they work 100% as intended. In this case everything that the game itself explains (tutorials and AURA) says that agressiontimers are 15 min long and can be only extended if the gamer takes action to do so, but not by another gamer punishment.

Hopefully I could explain my point (english is only my third language )