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		Comment on Dialogue: more than just listening by vince		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://logicofcompassion.com/dialogue-more-than-just-listening/#comment-912&quot;&gt;Bob Bonnici&lt;/a&gt;.

I think he would say the pope could enter into an interreligious dialogue, a popular euphemism that I think Tracy would agree almost never means what it says.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://logicofcompassion.com/dialogue-more-than-just-listening/#comment-912">Bob Bonnici</a>.</p>
<p>I think he would say the pope could enter into an interreligious dialogue, a popular euphemism that I think Tracy would agree almost never means what it says.</p>
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		Comment on Dialogue: more than just listening by Bob Bonnici		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Bonnici]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What do you think David Tracy would say about Pope Francis&#039; statement, &quot;I believe in God, not a Catholic God.&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think David Tracy would say about Pope Francis&#8217; statement, &#8220;I believe in God, not a Catholic God.&#8221;?</p>
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		Comment on Mandela and a need for greatness by Bob Bonnici		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Bonnici]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here! Here! Mandela will be truly missed. For an interesting contrast, look at Teddy Roosevelt in Kearn&#039;s The Bully Pulpit as he attempted to correct the corrupt powers of early 20th century America. Seems remarkably similar to the greediness of America today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here! Here! Mandela will be truly missed. For an interesting contrast, look at Teddy Roosevelt in Kearn&#8217;s The Bully Pulpit as he attempted to correct the corrupt powers of early 20th century America. Seems remarkably similar to the greediness of America today.</p>
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		Comment on The primacy of love, and the benefit of the doubt too by Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, are your Catholic roots showing? The just war theory allows for violating the commandment &quot;thou shalt not kill&quot; for the two exceptions you mention, self-defense and protecting the innocent. Given that, I believe that JP II was arguing from an objective moral constant of preserving life. As I read his Gospel of Life, he believed that capital punishment was no longer necessary today because of the reality of modern secure prisons that can sufficiently protect society. Hence today there is no reason to kill in order to protect if the offender can be safely incarcerated (vengeance never being a Christian option of course). 

A couple of questions: regarding those with a flawed consciousness, who will or cannot cooperate, choose to harm, or use up a lot of resources, how does someone with a mental disability fit in? They may not be necessarily harmful but they may have limited ability to cooperate (produce like our work oriented society expects) and they do often require more resources than the average person due to their special needs. Are their lives still worth preserving? This is why I find utilitarianism dangerous. In fact, didn&#039;t Hitler begin his holocaust with this special needs population by arguing that they could not pull their own weight and Germany could save a lot of money by eliminating them along with their costly needs (plus, he argued that they were living miserable lives anyway so they were better off dead in the long run).
Secondly, in the evolution of humankind, one thing the Church did campaign to bring to an end was the practice of human sacrifice wherever the Church encountered it (as with the Celts and the Aztecs). Wouldn&#039;t a relativistic view allow such a practice to continue based upon the preferences of a particular culture, or was the Church taking an objective approach by saying that harming life wherever it is done is inhuman and objectively wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, are your Catholic roots showing? The just war theory allows for violating the commandment &#8220;thou shalt not kill&#8221; for the two exceptions you mention, self-defense and protecting the innocent. Given that, I believe that JP II was arguing from an objective moral constant of preserving life. As I read his Gospel of Life, he believed that capital punishment was no longer necessary today because of the reality of modern secure prisons that can sufficiently protect society. Hence today there is no reason to kill in order to protect if the offender can be safely incarcerated (vengeance never being a Christian option of course). </p>
<p>A couple of questions: regarding those with a flawed consciousness, who will or cannot cooperate, choose to harm, or use up a lot of resources, how does someone with a mental disability fit in? They may not be necessarily harmful but they may have limited ability to cooperate (produce like our work oriented society expects) and they do often require more resources than the average person due to their special needs. Are their lives still worth preserving? This is why I find utilitarianism dangerous. In fact, didn&#8217;t Hitler begin his holocaust with this special needs population by arguing that they could not pull their own weight and Germany could save a lot of money by eliminating them along with their costly needs (plus, he argued that they were living miserable lives anyway so they were better off dead in the long run).<br />
Secondly, in the evolution of humankind, one thing the Church did campaign to bring to an end was the practice of human sacrifice wherever the Church encountered it (as with the Celts and the Aztecs). Wouldn&#8217;t a relativistic view allow such a practice to continue based upon the preferences of a particular culture, or was the Church taking an objective approach by saying that harming life wherever it is done is inhuman and objectively wrong?</p>
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		Comment on No choice but to love by vince		</title>
		<link>http://logicofcompassion.com/no-choice-but-to-love/#comment-42</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://logicofcompassion.com/no-choice-but-to-love/#comment-39&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds exactly like what I am saying. Life is one; we are instances of life taking material form. Humans in particular (though not necessarily exclusively) are instances of life progressing through material form to the point of becoming conscious. This is a two-edged sword. We can mistakenly identify individual consciousness as individual life, use it to make the finite self as big and real as we can and cause untold destruction; or we can see the transitive nature of our finitude as a beginning stage in the evolution of consciousness as a collective property of life and thus transcend finitude, which is my understanding of Teilhard&#039;s Omega point. It is another kind of birth, a conscious Big Bang perhaps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://logicofcompassion.com/no-choice-but-to-love/#comment-39">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds exactly like what I am saying. Life is one; we are instances of life taking material form. Humans in particular (though not necessarily exclusively) are instances of life progressing through material form to the point of becoming conscious. This is a two-edged sword. We can mistakenly identify individual consciousness as individual life, use it to make the finite self as big and real as we can and cause untold destruction; or we can see the transitive nature of our finitude as a beginning stage in the evolution of consciousness as a collective property of life and thus transcend finitude, which is my understanding of Teilhard&#8217;s Omega point. It is another kind of birth, a conscious Big Bang perhaps.</p>
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		Comment on No choice but to love by vince		</title>
		<link>http://logicofcompassion.com/no-choice-but-to-love/#comment-41</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://logicofcompassion.com/no-choice-but-to-love/#comment-37&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Unity is immanent. We can/will experience it anytime we don&#039;t block it out. Caught with our guard down, we might have a breakthrough. I think the most common way is &quot;seeing through the eyes of another,&quot; a wonderfully twisted phrase. That seeing is a hair&#039;s breadth away from realizing that we can only see through other eyes if we are behind them, if we are the other. I think it happens all the time, we make little connections, something jars us, but I get an image of poking a hole from inside something like a self-sealing tire. The way out lasts only until the wall closes back up. And the stronger the sense of self, the quicker it repairs the holes. Conversely, the more attention you pay to those jarring moments – Scrooge and the ghost of the future or Romero and his priests being killed – the slower it closes back up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://logicofcompassion.com/no-choice-but-to-love/#comment-37">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Unity is immanent. We can/will experience it anytime we don&#8217;t block it out. Caught with our guard down, we might have a breakthrough. I think the most common way is &#8220;seeing through the eyes of another,&#8221; a wonderfully twisted phrase. That seeing is a hair&#8217;s breadth away from realizing that we can only see through other eyes if we are behind them, if we are the other. I think it happens all the time, we make little connections, something jars us, but I get an image of poking a hole from inside something like a self-sealing tire. The way out lasts only until the wall closes back up. And the stronger the sense of self, the quicker it repairs the holes. Conversely, the more attention you pay to those jarring moments – Scrooge and the ghost of the future or Romero and his priests being killed – the slower it closes back up.</p>
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		Comment on Justice (part 2): Beyond the Golden Rule by vince		</title>
		<link>http://logicofcompassion.com/justice-part-2-beyond-the-golden-rule/#comment-40</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://logicofcompassion.com/justice-part-2-beyond-the-golden-rule/#comment-38&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for leaving a comment. It&#039;s great to know that this can be stumbled upon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://logicofcompassion.com/justice-part-2-beyond-the-golden-rule/#comment-38">source</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for leaving a comment. It&#8217;s great to know that this can be stumbled upon.</p>
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		Comment on No choice but to love by Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://logicofcompassion.com/no-choice-but-to-love/#comment-37&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Can finite beings, which have to protect themselves in order to remain as finite beings, achieve through their finitude and mutual dependence a willingness to give themselves to one another, to conceive and to act for the good of the whole? Keiji Nishitani describes a feeling that all of us, not just human beings, but all living things, are living from the same life, like leaves on a single tree. Each soul is life itself, taking some particular form, whether human, animal, or plant. He calls this a &quot;sympathetic affinity&quot; among the living, indicating a unity deeper than our everyday superficial relations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://logicofcompassion.com/no-choice-but-to-love/#comment-37">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Can finite beings, which have to protect themselves in order to remain as finite beings, achieve through their finitude and mutual dependence a willingness to give themselves to one another, to conceive and to act for the good of the whole? Keiji Nishitani describes a feeling that all of us, not just human beings, but all living things, are living from the same life, like leaves on a single tree. Each soul is life itself, taking some particular form, whether human, animal, or plant. He calls this a &#8220;sympathetic affinity&#8221; among the living, indicating a unity deeper than our everyday superficial relations.</p>
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		Comment on Justice (part 2): Beyond the Golden Rule by source		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[source]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey there, I just hopped over to your site thru StumbleUpon. Not somthing I might usually browse, but I liked your thoughts none the less. Thanks for making something well worth browsing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, I just hopped over to your site thru StumbleUpon. Not somthing I might usually browse, but I liked your thoughts none the less. Thanks for making something well worth browsing.</p>
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		Comment on No choice but to love by Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 03:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do we need to examine the Greek concept of agape (self-sacrifice for another)? I suspect that despite our overall unity, we fear a possible loss of what we hold dear if we give of ourselves. What amazes me are people like Scrooge or Oscar Romero who can&#039;t help but leave their comfortable lives and give of themselves for others, even strangers. How did they experience unity to where they had to act out of compassion?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we need to examine the Greek concept of agape (self-sacrifice for another)? I suspect that despite our overall unity, we fear a possible loss of what we hold dear if we give of ourselves. What amazes me are people like Scrooge or Oscar Romero who can&#8217;t help but leave their comfortable lives and give of themselves for others, even strangers. How did they experience unity to where they had to act out of compassion?</p>
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