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		<title>Comment on The Slippery Slope of Amazon.com’s Censorship Efforts by Otto Otowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto Otowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's amazing that after Ms. Reed described Greaves' text (after having read it) there are still people who claim to know better what they text says (never having read it). While there is a lot of heat above, there is very little light. 

There are serious arguments to be made regarding age of consent laws, not the least of which is what is an appropriate age of consent. Entire countries have much lower ages of consent than those found in the US. (Spain, 13; France, 15; UK, 16). So to say that sex between an adult and a person under the age of 17 is illegal, end of discussion, doesn't say very much. Moreover, to insist that there can be no discussion of something because the law says it's illegal is a rather silly argument. Oral sex between consenting adults would still be illegal if that were the case.

The people who want Amazon to take down any book about pedophilia which fails to hew to a certain line of thinking plainly fear rational debate. This is why they freely lie about these books (and about these issues) and engage in ad hominem attack instead of challenging the arguments and claims with which they disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing that after Ms. Reed described Greaves&#8217; text (after having read it) there are still people who claim to know better what they text says (never having read it). While there is a lot of heat above, there is very little light. </p>
<p>There are serious arguments to be made regarding age of consent laws, not the least of which is what is an appropriate age of consent. Entire countries have much lower ages of consent than those found in the US. (Spain, 13; France, 15; UK, 16). So to say that sex between an adult and a person under the age of 17 is illegal, end of discussion, doesn&#8217;t say very much. Moreover, to insist that there can be no discussion of something because the law says it&#8217;s illegal is a rather silly argument. Oral sex between consenting adults would still be illegal if that were the case.</p>
<p>The people who want Amazon to take down any book about pedophilia which fails to hew to a certain line of thinking plainly fear rational debate. This is why they freely lie about these books (and about these issues) and engage in ad hominem attack instead of challenging the arguments and claims with which they disagree.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I Will Not Boycott Amazon…A Mom’s Thoughts on the First Amendment by Otto Otowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto Otowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon also de-listed Tom O'Carroll's "Paedophilia: The Radical Case" (1980) which was not a "how to" manual or even a "what to avoid" manual, but a look at what O'Carroll believes are the  moral, criminological, anthropological and sexological issues surrounding paedophilia. Unlike Greaves's text (I wouldn't call it a book), O'Carroll's was scholarly, contained many citations to serious books and articles, and it was published by Peter Owen, a legitimate publisher in the U.K. The book is part of the history of sexual politics in Britain. There was no reason for Amazon to de-list it.

The people who are behind this amazon boycott are an interesting bunch. A large number of them are evangelical far right-wingers, white supremacists, Nazis and nuts. The mainstream media are their dupes -- as now is Amazon. If people wonder why those who are so upset about Greaves' e-text aren't also upset about books that advocate genocide (which, after all, includes killing children, not just having sex with them), the answer lies in the politics of their bedfellows.

I don't think Greaves' text had anything useful to add to the topic of either pedophilia or adult-child sexual contacts (which are two separate subjects). On the other hand, people who tell hysterical lies about non-existent publications like "the Paedophiles Periodical" or claim that any paedophile publication provides "how to" instructions for "rape and escape" (see commentary by "Rachel" above) also have nothing to add. They should be treated as extremists and liars -- and ignored, especially when it comes to book bans. 

No one should get me wrong. Amazon has the "right" to de-list any and every book. But it should develop consistent policies and not give in to public hysteria and lies. Once it does, it's a slippery slope. The people behind the boycott have a list of books. They'll continue to try to get them down, even if it's one at a time. Which one will be next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon also de-listed Tom O&#8217;Carroll&#8217;s &#8220;Paedophilia: The Radical Case&#8221; (1980) which was not a &#8220;how to&#8221; manual or even a &#8220;what to avoid&#8221; manual, but a look at what O&#8217;Carroll believes are the  moral, criminological, anthropological and sexological issues surrounding paedophilia. Unlike Greaves&#8217;s text (I wouldn&#8217;t call it a book), O&#8217;Carroll&#8217;s was scholarly, contained many citations to serious books and articles, and it was published by Peter Owen, a legitimate publisher in the U.K. The book is part of the history of sexual politics in Britain. There was no reason for Amazon to de-list it.</p>
<p>The people who are behind this amazon boycott are an interesting bunch. A large number of them are evangelical far right-wingers, white supremacists, Nazis and nuts. The mainstream media are their dupes &#8212; as now is Amazon. If people wonder why those who are so upset about Greaves&#8217; e-text aren&#8217;t also upset about books that advocate genocide (which, after all, includes killing children, not just having sex with them), the answer lies in the politics of their bedfellows.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Greaves&#8217; text had anything useful to add to the topic of either pedophilia or adult-child sexual contacts (which are two separate subjects). On the other hand, people who tell hysterical lies about non-existent publications like &#8220;the Paedophiles Periodical&#8221; or claim that any paedophile publication provides &#8220;how to&#8221; instructions for &#8220;rape and escape&#8221; (see commentary by &#8220;Rachel&#8221; above) also have nothing to add. They should be treated as extremists and liars &#8212; and ignored, especially when it comes to book bans. </p>
<p>No one should get me wrong. Amazon has the &#8220;right&#8221; to de-list any and every book. But it should develop consistent policies and not give in to public hysteria and lies. Once it does, it&#8217;s a slippery slope. The people behind the boycott have a list of books. They&#8217;ll continue to try to get them down, even if it&#8217;s one at a time. Which one will be next?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Double Your Dropbox Space by Lori Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 05:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - Great question. I saw what the site said, but my storage space literally doubled. So not sure exactly what the true answer is but either way it's a great deal! -Lori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; Great question. I saw what the site said, but my storage space literally doubled. So not sure exactly what the true answer is but either way it&#8217;s a great deal! -Lori</p>
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		<title>Comment on Double Your Dropbox Space by jeff</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 04:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they really double your total space, or is this only for referrals? According to that page you link to:

"Dropbox is making the transition back to school easy by giving everyone with an .edu email address double the credit for referrals. That's 500MB per friend you invite! That goes for everyone you've already referred too."

Nothing about doubling your total storage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they really double your total space, or is this only for referrals? According to that page you link to:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dropbox is making the transition back to school easy by giving everyone with an .edu email address double the credit for referrals. That&#8217;s 500MB per friend you invite! That goes for everyone you&#8217;ve already referred too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing about doubling your total storage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Double Your Dropbox Space by Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, thanks Lori!  This is a great thing to use especially if you're in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, thanks Lori!  This is a great thing to use especially if you&#8217;re in school.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Double Your Dropbox Space by Tweets that mention Double Your Dropbox Space | Lori Reed -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Double Your Dropbox Space | Lori Reed -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jason, Lori Reed. Lori Reed said: New Post: Double Your Dropbox Space http://goo.gl/fb/qD2LG [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Living in the Cloud: My Top Five Apps by Double Your Dropbox Space | Lori Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double Your Dropbox Space | Lori Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] month I posted about one of my favorite tools Dropbox which allows you to synchronize files between multiple [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] month I posted about one of my favorite tools Dropbox which allows you to synchronize files between multiple [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on My 2010 Edublog Nominations by Bobbi Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for nominating us Lori! I'm honored to be on your list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for nominating us Lori! I&#8217;m honored to be on your list.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My 2010 Edublog Nominations by Tweets that mention My 2010 Edublog Nominations | Lori Reed -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention My 2010 Edublog Nominations | Lori Reed -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Lori Reed, Jennifer Falkowski. Jennifer Falkowski said: RT @lorireed: New Post: My 2010 Edublog Nominations http://goo.gl/fb/vbxBE [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why I Will Not Boycott Amazon…A Mom’s Thoughts on the First Amendment by Yup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS is what did it for me also. I'm saddened by the fact that so many people are outraged at me for choosing not to do business with them. I have been openly ridiculed for my stance on this. I understand both sides of the argument... but... If it were a small local retailer, and not Amazon.com I seriously wonder if people's attitudes would be a bit different? If this was some guy with a storefront in MyTown USA, would anyone care? I would, and I would choose not to shop at his store. Would I get cursed at and belittled by others for making that choice? I doubt it. Part of me wonders if some people are jumping to Amazon's defense (before anyone lets me have it for this statement - I said some - not ALL) simply because it's an issue of convenience for them to justify their money-saving purchases with Amazon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS is what did it for me also. I&#8217;m saddened by the fact that so many people are outraged at me for choosing not to do business with them. I have been openly ridiculed for my stance on this. I understand both sides of the argument&#8230; but&#8230; If it were a small local retailer, and not Amazon.com I seriously wonder if people&#8217;s attitudes would be a bit different? If this was some guy with a storefront in MyTown USA, would anyone care? I would, and I would choose not to shop at his store. Would I get cursed at and belittled by others for making that choice? I doubt it. Part of me wonders if some people are jumping to Amazon&#8217;s defense (before anyone lets me have it for this statement &#8211; I said some &#8211; not ALL) simply because it&#8217;s an issue of convenience for them to justify their money-saving purchases with Amazon.</p>
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