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		<title>Comment on Tim and Eric’s Billion Dollar Movie! (and more) by Max Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 03:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it appropriate for a woman of color to be commenting on the art of two white men?  Come to think of it, what was Spike Lee doing when he decided to direct Edward Norton in "25th Hour"?  How does that work with a black man trying to get into the head of a white actor.  Shouldn't every film have a separate director for each ethnicity or gender represented in a film?  Shouldn't there be multiple screen writers as well?  I think these are legitimate questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it appropriate for a woman of color to be commenting on the art of two white men?  Come to think of it, what was Spike Lee doing when he decided to direct Edward Norton in &#8220;25th Hour&#8221;?  How does that work with a black man trying to get into the head of a white actor.  Shouldn&#8217;t every film have a separate director for each ethnicity or gender represented in a film?  Shouldn&#8217;t there be multiple screen writers as well?  I think these are legitimate questions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is the Problem: Writing About Film by Max Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 03:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you suppose this was THE Gary Oldman?  I sort of regret not assuming that he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you suppose this was THE Gary Oldman?  I sort of regret not assuming that he was.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ebert Presents: Lars Von Trier’s Golden Heart Trilogy by Salvo Triest.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvo Triest.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 03:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dancer in the Dark may or may not have been a(n) (in)direct influence on Paul Thomas Anderson's Punch-Drunk Love....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dancer in the Dark may or may not have been a(n) (in)direct influence on Paul Thomas Anderson&#8217;s Punch-Drunk Love&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Am Love vs. Somewhere by Salvo Triest.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvo Triest.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 07:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What will always stay with me about I Am Love is the ending; when I saw it, I went so far as to wonder whether Guadadnino inteneded to create a sense of 'heightened' emotional distance from the Tilda Swinton character that would run completely counterintuitive in a film this grandiose in it's elegance. When I watched Tilda in that final scene, I felt as though I should have been moved to tears. Instead, I watched with my hand over my mouth as I though I was an onlooker of some kind of car wreck or breakdown. I've read synopsises of this film that explain everything rather too neatly; that endings are new beginnings, that life culminates in one big ethereal 'poof' when it's over. In other words, when life ends, it ends in one, big sweeping stroke of a Creative power's brush.

Ms. Richardson, in this post, talks about how big and daring this film is. I can't argue otherwise. The ending proves this scientifically by putting the stroke of Creative power to maximum use. The ending is the kind that has been tested, time and time again, in the minds of not just the David Leans, but, I'd (naively, perhaps) imagine, filmmakers such as (gasp!) Sophia Coppola, to produce a kind of effect that's tried-and-true when it comes to moving the audience at the very end. It's the kind of effect that's supposed to make the movie, and especially it's characters, linger in the viewer's mind for as long as possible. I'd even go out on a limb to argue thatthe ending of Coppopla's The Virgin Suicides (which I went from admiring to disliking the second time around) creates the same effect of the ending in I Am Love, though with infinitely greater minimalism.

In both Love and Suicides, when the credits role, the characters stay with you not because they are larger than life, but because they are far more easily swallowed up by existence in one gulp than other people. Almost every character in Suicides is completely unknowable, and beneath that numbness develops a steady, if understated, uneasiness, but because everyone in this film is unknowable, there's no sense on the viewer's part that there's something wrong with them if they didn't empathize with their plight. 

In I Am Love, Tilda Swinton is present throughout the entire film. We meet her family. We know her circumstances; how when she immigrated from Russia to Italy, she stopped being Russian, and became Italian with a seeming snap of the fingers. We even see just how woozy she gets from tasting the younger man Antonio's cooking for the first time as she falls so intensely for him, courtesy of Guadignino's extraordinary use of the camera to convey this character's point of view. We even see what her dreams consist of visually depicted for us. 

What's striking (and off-putting) about this is that the Tilda Swinton character dreams only in snapshots instead of narrative, and that the snapshots in her dreams are of strongly concrete things such as two male hands holding a bush of grapes. I understand that this image is also probably symbolic of her deep desire for Antonio, but, to me, this represents within this character a  talent for embodying her personal desires at the expense of her personhood. In the imagination of this character, her feelings, however deep they may be, are seldom if ever represented in human form. Instead they take the form of the objects that give this character the earthy pleasure she seeks and thus guides her heart whereever it will take it. 

It's almost as though in this film there lies no middle boundary between one kind of objective experience of the world, the aristocratic, and another, the earthy (and even the earthiness of the earthy experience has a kind of naturalistic regalness to it (the back to nature scene, for instance)) until this is interrupted by the familial relations between the Tilda Swinton character and her children and, yes, even her maid, as well as the story line about how what will happen to the family buisness now that the Patriarch Recchi has passed on. What's problematic about these is that, while they do give us, sufficient, sometimes even great reason to care about all of the characters, the themes and challenges that drive the emotional lives of all the characters in the movie are just as overly universal as they are universally timeless.There's no room for the idiosyncracy of experience in the lives of these characters.

It's not that these charcters are types. Every last one of them is and feels very real. It's that the reality of the world they inhabit is so hyper-sensualized that it leaves little room for the characters to show or develop more personality throughout the movie. In other words, the physical environments the characters in I Am Love exist in sometimes seem to be depicted as a means of upstaging the inner lives of these people so that the viewer is never quite sure if there is anything distinct from the universal going through any character's mind. 

So, back to the ending of I Am Love; given this conundrum of environment often standing in for, and thus sometimes superseding the inner life of the characters, it felt as the though the Tilda Swinton character was a representation of a universally acknowledged understanding of how life itself runs in cycles; things come into existence, they exist, than they soon cease to. When the movie ends, it ends with the sense that the Tilda Swinton character is disappeering from existend in a sweeping, elegantly grandiose fashion. At this point, even Mrs. Recchi's husband tells her that she doesn't exist. 

One thing that is notable is how Ms. Richardson mentions the timelessness of the dress as being antithetical to the notion of nostalgia. To me, this does represent a kind of nostaligia for the belief that existence for ever; a belief that evaporates at the end like the Tilda Swinton character as one truly comes of age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will always stay with me about I Am Love is the ending; when I saw it, I went so far as to wonder whether Guadadnino inteneded to create a sense of &#8216;heightened&#8217; emotional distance from the Tilda Swinton character that would run completely counterintuitive in a film this grandiose in it&#8217;s elegance. When I watched Tilda in that final scene, I felt as though I should have been moved to tears. Instead, I watched with my hand over my mouth as I though I was an onlooker of some kind of car wreck or breakdown. I&#8217;ve read synopsises of this film that explain everything rather too neatly; that endings are new beginnings, that life culminates in one big ethereal &#8216;poof&#8217; when it&#8217;s over. In other words, when life ends, it ends in one, big sweeping stroke of a Creative power&#8217;s brush.</p>
<p>Ms. Richardson, in this post, talks about how big and daring this film is. I can&#8217;t argue otherwise. The ending proves this scientifically by putting the stroke of Creative power to maximum use. The ending is the kind that has been tested, time and time again, in the minds of not just the David Leans, but, I&#8217;d (naively, perhaps) imagine, filmmakers such as (gasp!) Sophia Coppola, to produce a kind of effect that&#8217;s tried-and-true when it comes to moving the audience at the very end. It&#8217;s the kind of effect that&#8217;s supposed to make the movie, and especially it&#8217;s characters, linger in the viewer&#8217;s mind for as long as possible. I&#8217;d even go out on a limb to argue thatthe ending of Coppopla&#8217;s The Virgin Suicides (which I went from admiring to disliking the second time around) creates the same effect of the ending in I Am Love, though with infinitely greater minimalism.</p>
<p>In both Love and Suicides, when the credits role, the characters stay with you not because they are larger than life, but because they are far more easily swallowed up by existence in one gulp than other people. Almost every character in Suicides is completely unknowable, and beneath that numbness develops a steady, if understated, uneasiness, but because everyone in this film is unknowable, there&#8217;s no sense on the viewer&#8217;s part that there&#8217;s something wrong with them if they didn&#8217;t empathize with their plight. </p>
<p>In I Am Love, Tilda Swinton is present throughout the entire film. We meet her family. We know her circumstances; how when she immigrated from Russia to Italy, she stopped being Russian, and became Italian with a seeming snap of the fingers. We even see just how woozy she gets from tasting the younger man Antonio&#8217;s cooking for the first time as she falls so intensely for him, courtesy of Guadignino&#8217;s extraordinary use of the camera to convey this character&#8217;s point of view. We even see what her dreams consist of visually depicted for us. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s striking (and off-putting) about this is that the Tilda Swinton character dreams only in snapshots instead of narrative, and that the snapshots in her dreams are of strongly concrete things such as two male hands holding a bush of grapes. I understand that this image is also probably symbolic of her deep desire for Antonio, but, to me, this represents within this character a  talent for embodying her personal desires at the expense of her personhood. In the imagination of this character, her feelings, however deep they may be, are seldom if ever represented in human form. Instead they take the form of the objects that give this character the earthy pleasure she seeks and thus guides her heart whereever it will take it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost as though in this film there lies no middle boundary between one kind of objective experience of the world, the aristocratic, and another, the earthy (and even the earthiness of the earthy experience has a kind of naturalistic regalness to it (the back to nature scene, for instance)) until this is interrupted by the familial relations between the Tilda Swinton character and her children and, yes, even her maid, as well as the story line about how what will happen to the family buisness now that the Patriarch Recchi has passed on. What&#8217;s problematic about these is that, while they do give us, sufficient, sometimes even great reason to care about all of the characters, the themes and challenges that drive the emotional lives of all the characters in the movie are just as overly universal as they are universally timeless.There&#8217;s no room for the idiosyncracy of experience in the lives of these characters.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that these charcters are types. Every last one of them is and feels very real. It&#8217;s that the reality of the world they inhabit is so hyper-sensualized that it leaves little room for the characters to show or develop more personality throughout the movie. In other words, the physical environments the characters in I Am Love exist in sometimes seem to be depicted as a means of upstaging the inner lives of these people so that the viewer is never quite sure if there is anything distinct from the universal going through any character&#8217;s mind. </p>
<p>So, back to the ending of I Am Love; given this conundrum of environment often standing in for, and thus sometimes superseding the inner life of the characters, it felt as the though the Tilda Swinton character was a representation of a universally acknowledged understanding of how life itself runs in cycles; things come into existence, they exist, than they soon cease to. When the movie ends, it ends with the sense that the Tilda Swinton character is disappeering from existend in a sweeping, elegantly grandiose fashion. At this point, even Mrs. Recchi&#8217;s husband tells her that she doesn&#8217;t exist. </p>
<p>One thing that is notable is how Ms. Richardson mentions the timelessness of the dress as being antithetical to the notion of nostalgia. To me, this does represent a kind of nostaligia for the belief that existence for ever; a belief that evaporates at the end like the Tilda Swinton character as one truly comes of age.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim and Eric’s Billion Dollar Movie! (and more) by Max Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I have to stare at a vagina for two months, it might as well be Keira knightley's.  I suppose it's as worthy as any other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I have to stare at a vagina for two months, it might as well be Keira knightley&#8217;s.  I suppose it&#8217;s as worthy as any other.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim and Eric’s Billion Dollar Movie! (and more) by Salvo Triest.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvo Triest.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vulnerability. 

This, not laziness, why I'm choose to procrastinate on assignments I know I can ace if I put in the effort.

I've gotten to the point in my life where I've decided to cultivate within myself a 'staple' sense of vulerability. I was the person who wanted to be liked, but the vast majority of the world found that, for various reasons within and out of my control, too painful.

But with that being said, feeling vulerable is far more an enlivining experience than feeling safe. It's the kind of thing that drains one of every last ounce of energy, only to rejuvinate the same sense of spirit that it suffused like nothing else can. And, although, for this I will pay dearly, I've always been curious to know what it's like to die at age 95 having little if any sense of intimacy with somebody other than my parents (no friendships, let alone relationships). I wonder how exactly I'd contribute. I wonder how people would remember me after I'm gone--or if anyone, even my blood relatives, would remember me at all if they knew I existed. 

I'll stop right there. I'm starting to make myself nauseous, but, for me, the 'fraility' evoked by Tim and Eric, that, for me, at least, coaxes me into asking questions in a way feeling safe never could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vulnerability. </p>
<p>This, not laziness, why I&#8217;m choose to procrastinate on assignments I know I can ace if I put in the effort.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten to the point in my life where I&#8217;ve decided to cultivate within myself a &#8216;staple&#8217; sense of vulerability. I was the person who wanted to be liked, but the vast majority of the world found that, for various reasons within and out of my control, too painful.</p>
<p>But with that being said, feeling vulerable is far more an enlivining experience than feeling safe. It&#8217;s the kind of thing that drains one of every last ounce of energy, only to rejuvinate the same sense of spirit that it suffused like nothing else can. And, although, for this I will pay dearly, I&#8217;ve always been curious to know what it&#8217;s like to die at age 95 having little if any sense of intimacy with somebody other than my parents (no friendships, let alone relationships). I wonder how exactly I&#8217;d contribute. I wonder how people would remember me after I&#8217;m gone&#8211;or if anyone, even my blood relatives, would remember me at all if they knew I existed. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stop right there. I&#8217;m starting to make myself nauseous, but, for me, the &#8216;fraility&#8217; evoked by Tim and Eric, that, for me, at least, coaxes me into asking questions in a way feeling safe never could.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Attack the Block by las</title>
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		<dc:creator>las</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are completely right about the race/class factor thanks for the honest review and it always nice to see black people in the sci fi genre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are completely right about the race/class factor thanks for the honest review and it always nice to see black people in the sci fi genre</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is the Problem: Writing About Film by Billy Marshall Stoneking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Marshall Stoneking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is it possible? might we be kindred spirits - at least as far as film and filmmaking go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it possible? might we be kindred spirits &#8211; at least as far as film and filmmaking go?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keira Knightley’s Vagina (A Dangerous Method) by Lena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-O

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:-O</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.mirrorfilm.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Tree of Life by Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who finds this essay extremely offensive? Not to mention it barley discusses the actual film. Instead we are not only subjected to an essays worth of your childhood memories/fears (as if I care: I came here to hear about the film), but then we are subjected to an essay on recognizing the evilness of the white male?! Substitute any other race for white and you would be bombarded with accusations of insensitivity and racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who finds this essay extremely offensive? Not to mention it barley discusses the actual film. Instead we are not only subjected to an essays worth of your childhood memories/fears (as if I care: I came here to hear about the film), but then we are subjected to an essay on recognizing the evilness of the white male?! Substitute any other race for white and you would be bombarded with accusations of insensitivity and racism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pasolini’s Accatone by jdrrr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 02:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franco Citti, my favorite actor. If only we had other Pasolinis capable of finding more Cittis. Though it is no doubt unfair, and pointless, whenever I see a contemporary actor try to find some grit in a character, some kind of vital energy beyond the surface tricks of the trade, I always compare them to Citti and I almost always find them lacking. There's something he has that is so powerful, unadulterated, and the shortcomings of the amateur don't seem to tarnish his on screen presence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franco Citti, my favorite actor. If only we had other Pasolinis capable of finding more Cittis. Though it is no doubt unfair, and pointless, whenever I see a contemporary actor try to find some grit in a character, some kind of vital energy beyond the surface tricks of the trade, I always compare them to Citti and I almost always find them lacking. There&#8217;s something he has that is so powerful, unadulterated, and the shortcomings of the amateur don&#8217;t seem to tarnish his on screen presence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keira Knightley’s Vagina (A Dangerous Method) by Max Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet Kartina, I have to differ with you on one point.  I've never had any difficulty imagining that Keira Knightley has a vagina, even when she's been her whitest.  I've never given it a lot of thought and I'm not certain of its nature (glistening or natural) but I've always been confident that she has one.  I don't know, maybe it's a guy thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet Kartina, I have to differ with you on one point.  I&#8217;ve never had any difficulty imagining that Keira Knightley has a vagina, even when she&#8217;s been her whitest.  I&#8217;ve never given it a lot of thought and I&#8217;m not certain of its nature (glistening or natural) but I&#8217;ve always been confident that she has one.  I don&#8217;t know, maybe it&#8217;s a guy thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keira Knightley’s Vagina (A Dangerous Method) by Kartina Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kartina Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH my god my dear Max. My heart has stopped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH my god my dear Max. My heart has stopped!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keira Knightley’s Vagina (A Dangerous Method) by KPM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KPM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was astonished (but not surprised) at the comments over at The New Inquiry.  Equally shameful, however...I fell asleep yesterday evening while sipping whiskey during my initial experience with "Certified Copy"...just as I was anticipating reading your review.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was astonished (but not surprised) at the comments over at The New Inquiry.  Equally shameful, however&#8230;I fell asleep yesterday evening while sipping whiskey during my initial experience with &#8220;Certified Copy&#8221;&#8230;just as I was anticipating reading your review.  <img src='http://www.mirrorfilm.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Keira Knightley’s Vagina (A Dangerous Method) by Max Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your "Vagina" review and thought it was very imaginative and I'll have to see the film now.  I read most of the rabid responses to the review and it seems that some people (men with vagina intimacy issues and small penis syndrome) really can't handle a female perspective on film.  I guess you're right about the importance of race and gender in film making and viewing, and I was wrong.  There, I said it.  I feel much better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your &#8220;Vagina&#8221; review and thought it was very imaginative and I&#8217;ll have to see the film now.  I read most of the rabid responses to the review and it seems that some people (men with vagina intimacy issues and small penis syndrome) really can&#8217;t handle a female perspective on film.  I guess you&#8217;re right about the importance of race and gender in film making and viewing, and I was wrong.  There, I said it.  I feel much better now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Baby Doll by C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been attracted to men like Eli Wallach (but perhaps men who are a little more brash). Though, when you wrote, "You never thought it could happen, but it did. You have been turned on by Eli Wallach," I laughed for a good long minute-- because for a long time, my only exposure to him had been "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly." And believe me, for that period of 6 years, I never considered Tuco to be particularly attractive. Funnily enough, a slight attraction to him started after watching "The Holiday" in 2006-- but that's because I recognized that he aged the way someone in my life was/is going to age. What sent me over the edge, though, was seeing him in "How To Steal A Million" with Audrey Hepburn and Peter O'Toole. 

But I don't mean for this comment to be an essay on how I was turned on by Eli Wallach. 

What I mean to say is: Spot-on. Spot. On.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been attracted to men like Eli Wallach (but perhaps men who are a little more brash). Though, when you wrote, &#8220;You never thought it could happen, but it did. You have been turned on by Eli Wallach,&#8221; I laughed for a good long minute&#8211; because for a long time, my only exposure to him had been &#8220;The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.&#8221; And believe me, for that period of 6 years, I never considered Tuco to be particularly attractive. Funnily enough, a slight attraction to him started after watching &#8220;The Holiday&#8221; in 2006&#8211; but that&#8217;s because I recognized that he aged the way someone in my life was/is going to age. What sent me over the edge, though, was seeing him in &#8220;How To Steal A Million&#8221; with Audrey Hepburn and Peter O&#8217;Toole. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t mean for this comment to be an essay on how I was turned on by Eli Wallach. </p>
<p>What I mean to say is: Spot-on. Spot. On.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chaz &amp; Kartina: Marrakech Film Festival by Max Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 23:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Festivus to you and your family Kartina.  Have a really fine 2012 as well.

Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Festivus to you and your family Kartina.  Have a really fine 2012 as well.</p>
<p>Max</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ebert Presents: Race and the Movies by Max Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm guessing that had he replaced Ginger with a woman of color he wouldn't have been allowed to make another film or perform at a big time venue.  He no longer would have been invited to all of those high society parties he frequented and probably would have fathered a love child with his new partner and become the proud parent of a mixed race child and lived happily ever after working as a night watchman.  The end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing that had he replaced Ginger with a woman of color he wouldn&#8217;t have been allowed to make another film or perform at a big time venue.  He no longer would have been invited to all of those high society parties he frequented and probably would have fathered a love child with his new partner and become the proud parent of a mixed race child and lived happily ever after working as a night watchman.  The end.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is the Problem: Writing About Film by Max Oblivion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lena, I agree with most of what you said though I don't get the "betrayed" angle at all.  I agree with you that:

"we are large, we contain multitudes &amp; no one part defines us. why should it be painful, or shameful, or somehow less progressive, to simply acknowledge a mere few of the parts that make up our tapestry, while having the larger conversation of life (or film or art)?"

That is pretty much my view.  I've reacted to Kartina's emphasis on the role that race and gender must play in the creation of that tapestry and her use of certain racial and gender stereotypes in her essays about film.  I don't object to her position that she is most authentic when she embraces subjectivity when writing about film.  I think it's silly for any writer to pretend to be objective when commenting on film or anything else.  I think it can become problematic though when writers express their personal perspectives through their art and then within the context of the personal, form sweeping generalizations about race and gender as if those assertions were grounded in an objective reality.  If you read more of Kartina's essays, particularly the one on "The Tree of Life" I think you will see what I'm talking about.  

The truth is I like Kartina's writing style a lot and I think she has a lot to offer as a film historian and critic.  I wouldn't post here if I didn't.  I don't completely share Kartina's worldview but that's OK.  She has a talent I can appreciate and that's what's important.  Take a look at her "Badlands" review, it's magical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lena, I agree with most of what you said though I don&#8217;t get the &#8220;betrayed&#8221; angle at all.  I agree with you that:</p>
<p>&#8220;we are large, we contain multitudes &amp; no one part defines us. why should it be painful, or shameful, or somehow less progressive, to simply acknowledge a mere few of the parts that make up our tapestry, while having the larger conversation of life (or film or art)?&#8221;</p>
<p>That is pretty much my view.  I&#8217;ve reacted to Kartina&#8217;s emphasis on the role that race and gender must play in the creation of that tapestry and her use of certain racial and gender stereotypes in her essays about film.  I don&#8217;t object to her position that she is most authentic when she embraces subjectivity when writing about film.  I think it&#8217;s silly for any writer to pretend to be objective when commenting on film or anything else.  I think it can become problematic though when writers express their personal perspectives through their art and then within the context of the personal, form sweeping generalizations about race and gender as if those assertions were grounded in an objective reality.  If you read more of Kartina&#8217;s essays, particularly the one on &#8220;The Tree of Life&#8221; I think you will see what I&#8217;m talking about.  </p>
<p>The truth is I like Kartina&#8217;s writing style a lot and I think she has a lot to offer as a film historian and critic.  I wouldn&#8217;t post here if I didn&#8217;t.  I don&#8217;t completely share Kartina&#8217;s worldview but that&#8217;s OK.  She has a talent I can appreciate and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s important.  Take a look at her &#8220;Badlands&#8221; review, it&#8217;s magical.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is the Problem: Writing About Film by Lena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Max Oblivion oh, dear. let us count to 3, and draw a few deep breaths. you seem to feel betrayed and I am not sure why. you are not under attack. no one has called you evil, or single-minded, or any of the things you seem to feel accused of. every *person* views the world through the lens shaped by their personality/disposition, preferences, environment, beliefs, experiences, etc. and that of course includes a great many universal experiences--perhaps an unrequited love, nervousness on the first day of school, the joy of making a new friend,  the light in the room during our favorite time of day etc. oh, so many of things affect what we are later drawn to, &amp; how we feel about it. a shy person will be drawn to one element of a thing while an extrovert will pick out another. &amp; this is neither a negative or positive thing, the fact of these inclinations. it is part of the business of being human, no? so then, we might as well not pretend that our views exist in a vacuum. &amp; we shouldn't feel somehow less authentic or objective for simply acknowledging our patchwork of influences. it IS a patchwork; we are large, we contain multitudes &amp; no one part defines us. why should it be painful, or shameful, or somehow less progressive, to simply acknowledge a mere few of the parts that make up our tapestry, while having the larger conversation of life (or film or art)? the tapestry is there anyway. it feels more honest &amp; real (to me) to be able to speak of it without anyone feeling threatened in any way. it should not be a threatening or even surprising thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Max Oblivion oh, dear. let us count to 3, and draw a few deep breaths. you seem to feel betrayed and I am not sure why. you are not under attack. no one has called you evil, or single-minded, or any of the things you seem to feel accused of. every *person* views the world through the lens shaped by their personality/disposition, preferences, environment, beliefs, experiences, etc. and that of course includes a great many universal experiences&#8211;perhaps an unrequited love, nervousness on the first day of school, the joy of making a new friend,  the light in the room during our favorite time of day etc. oh, so many of things affect what we are later drawn to, &amp; how we feel about it. a shy person will be drawn to one element of a thing while an extrovert will pick out another. &amp; this is neither a negative or positive thing, the fact of these inclinations. it is part of the business of being human, no? so then, we might as well not pretend that our views exist in a vacuum. &amp; we shouldn&#8217;t feel somehow less authentic or objective for simply acknowledging our patchwork of influences. it IS a patchwork; we are large, we contain multitudes &amp; no one part defines us. why should it be painful, or shameful, or somehow less progressive, to simply acknowledge a mere few of the parts that make up our tapestry, while having the larger conversation of life (or film or art)? the tapestry is there anyway. it feels more honest &amp; real (to me) to be able to speak of it without anyone feeling threatened in any way. it should not be a threatening or even surprising thing.</p>
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