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		Comment on Socio-technological evolution and the emergence of multiconsciousness by Dmitry		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/emergence-of-multiconsciousness/#comment-78</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dmitry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You see all should be OPEN, openness is the only way to survive for manhood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see all should be OPEN, openness is the only way to survive for manhood.</p>
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		Comment on Socio-technological evolution and the emergence of multiconsciousness by Ivan Savov		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/emergence-of-multiconsciousness/#comment-75</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan Savov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really like first three levels of the anlogy, but I don&#039;t think that  current government structures are anywhere as useful or helpful as the nervous system.

Most governments (whether they be historic despotic regimes, the church or the current you-vote-but-it-doesn&#039;t-matter style democracies) aim to maintain a current social and economic order. They aim to protect the few who have against the many have-nots. Laws, courts and police establish the stability of the system and its rules.

Theoretically, the government is supposed to aim for what is best for the organism in its competition with other organisms, but in practice the government spends much more time trying to abuse its citizens as much as possible while at the same time avoiding an uprising.

In particular I think this statement is misleading:
&#062; During several thousands of years, much like
&#062; the natural selection works, human society has 
&#062; sampled a substantial amount of governance systems. 
&#062; By trial and error excluding the unstable “phenotypes”, 
&#062; now society is slowly converging on a seemingly stable
&#062;  – democratic – architecture. In democratic arrangement ...

I don&#039;t think humanity has sampled anything. Different powers and interests have tried various orders from direct slavery to partial slavery through employment in order to harness the intellectual and economic power of the people they rule over. But we are very much in a parasitic kind of relationship than a protective integrative kind.

Perhaps the equivalent of the nervous system is still missing in human society?  

Can the analogy with multi-cellular organisms suggest a way to build new forms of government that will not be corruptible by lobbies and special interest groups?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like first three levels of the anlogy, but I don&#8217;t think that  current government structures are anywhere as useful or helpful as the nervous system.</p>
<p>Most governments (whether they be historic despotic regimes, the church or the current you-vote-but-it-doesn&#8217;t-matter style democracies) aim to maintain a current social and economic order. They aim to protect the few who have against the many have-nots. Laws, courts and police establish the stability of the system and its rules.</p>
<p>Theoretically, the government is supposed to aim for what is best for the organism in its competition with other organisms, but in practice the government spends much more time trying to abuse its citizens as much as possible while at the same time avoiding an uprising.</p>
<p>In particular I think this statement is misleading:<br />
&gt; During several thousands of years, much like<br />
&gt; the natural selection works, human society has<br />
&gt; sampled a substantial amount of governance systems.<br />
&gt; By trial and error excluding the unstable “phenotypes”,<br />
&gt; now society is slowly converging on a seemingly stable<br />
&gt;  – democratic – architecture. In democratic arrangement &#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think humanity has sampled anything. Different powers and interests have tried various orders from direct slavery to partial slavery through employment in order to harness the intellectual and economic power of the people they rule over. But we are very much in a parasitic kind of relationship than a protective integrative kind.</p>
<p>Perhaps the equivalent of the nervous system is still missing in human society?  </p>
<p>Can the analogy with multi-cellular organisms suggest a way to build new forms of government that will not be corruptible by lobbies and special interest groups?</p>
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		Comment on Socio-technological evolution and the emergence of multiconsciousness by Yaroslav Nikolaev		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/emergence-of-multiconsciousness/#comment-71</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yaroslav Nikolaev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[your thought is exactly on the point! open system would be more capable of developing emergent adaptations by increased amount of &quot;random changes&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your thought is exactly on the point! open system would be more capable of developing emergent adaptations by increased amount of &#8220;random changes&#8221;</p>
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		Comment on Socio-technological evolution and the emergence of multiconsciousness by James McIntyre		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/emergence-of-multiconsciousness/#comment-70</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome!  I was just in the tub (after a roommate and I had a discussion about evolution) when I thought &quot;what does biological evolution and open source have in common?... emergence?&quot;

so i googled &quot;open source evolution emergence&quot; and here was your article...

one thought (rough thought!):
open=more &quot;useful&quot; emergent behavior via what we perceive as &quot;randomness&quot; or &quot;shuffling&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!  I was just in the tub (after a roommate and I had a discussion about evolution) when I thought &#8220;what does biological evolution and open source have in common?&#8230; emergence?&#8221;</p>
<p>so i googled &#8220;open source evolution emergence&#8221; and here was your article&#8230;</p>
<p>one thought (rough thought!):<br />
open=more &#8220;useful&#8221; emergent behavior via what we perceive as &#8220;randomness&#8221; or &#8220;shuffling&#8221;</p>
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		Comment on Knowledge production pipeline by Yaroslav Nikolaev		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/knowledge-production-pipeline/#comment-51</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yaroslav Nikolaev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The raw data obviously does not form spontaneously – researchers have to somehow extract it first. Apologies for the confusion, but in the scheme above &quot;raw data&quot; refers to natural world/universe around us, rather than digital data in the raw format.
As you mention, the system is indeed a circle – produced knowledge feeds back to the pipeline (see the dissemination step)...However it is a bit more convenient to illustrate the process as a [linear] sequence of segments in the context of current discussion ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The raw data obviously does not form spontaneously – researchers have to somehow extract it first. Apologies for the confusion, but in the scheme above &#8220;raw data&#8221; refers to natural world/universe around us, rather than digital data in the raw format.<br />
As you mention, the system is indeed a circle – produced knowledge feeds back to the pipeline (see the dissemination step)&#8230;However it is a bit more convenient to illustrate the process as a [linear] sequence of segments in the context of current discussion 😉</p>
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		Comment on Knowledge production pipeline by Andrei Karotki		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/knowledge-production-pipeline/#comment-50</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrei Karotki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ciao Jareg. I have a question about your &quot;Knowledge production pipeline&quot;. It is not about the main idea of the article but about the processing of data by scientists. Do you really exclude all the conscious data production outside of your pipeline from the model? I mean, the raw data can come spontaneously, but it can also be a result of a planned action which is based on our previous knowledge , forming a knowlegde multiplication circle. In fact it is an open system, that does not have a linear  mechanism of data processing. What do you think?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciao Jareg. I have a question about your &#8220;Knowledge production pipeline&#8221;. It is not about the main idea of the article but about the processing of data by scientists. Do you really exclude all the conscious data production outside of your pipeline from the model? I mean, the raw data can come spontaneously, but it can also be a result of a planned action which is based on our previous knowledge , forming a knowlegde multiplication circle. In fact it is an open system, that does not have a linear  mechanism of data processing. What do you think?</p>
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		Comment on Knowledge production pipeline by Michael Nielsen &#187; Biweekly links for 06/27/2008		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/knowledge-production-pipeline/#comment-15</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Nielsen &#187; Biweekly links for 06/27/2008]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		Comment on Knowledge production pipeline by Yaroslav Nikolaev		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/knowledge-production-pipeline/#comment-14</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yaroslav Nikolaev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Totally on your side - peer-review is required to certify research, not data. And anyway one does not need to &quot;peer-review&quot; the raw data, since only specialists from the same field can truly value from sharing this kind of information (plus data-mining later on). But this could be the key for automation - let the system find most appropriate peer-reviewers for your research, thus providing the highest quality/timing ratio for the peer-review process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally on your side &#8211; peer-review is required to certify research, not data. And anyway one does not need to &#8220;peer-review&#8221; the raw data, since only specialists from the same field can truly value from sharing this kind of information (plus data-mining later on). But this could be the key for automation &#8211; let the system find most appropriate peer-reviewers for your research, thus providing the highest quality/timing ratio for the peer-review process.</p>
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		Comment on Knowledge production pipeline by Jean-Claude Bradley		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/knowledge-production-pipeline/#comment-13</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Claude Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not all peers are equal - the scientist you want reviewing work is the one who tried to duplicate it (or ran a very similar experiment).  Nobody else is really motivated enough to contribute a meaningful review.  That means that if we start making research results available as we get them it is not practical to expect them to be properly reviewed.  This is why I think that raw data is much more important that perfunctory &quot;peer review&quot; - especially for &quot;failed&quot; experiments.

Peer review does have a role in publishing traditional articles but it happens at a much higher level of analysis than the raw experimental results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all peers are equal &#8211; the scientist you want reviewing work is the one who tried to duplicate it (or ran a very similar experiment).  Nobody else is really motivated enough to contribute a meaningful review.  That means that if we start making research results available as we get them it is not practical to expect them to be properly reviewed.  This is why I think that raw data is much more important that perfunctory &#8220;peer review&#8221; &#8211; especially for &#8220;failed&#8221; experiments.</p>
<p>Peer review does have a role in publishing traditional articles but it happens at a much higher level of analysis than the raw experimental results.</p>
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		Comment on Mitigation of the crisis in science by electronic discovery		</title>
		<link>https://yarikson.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/mitigation-of-the-crisis-in-science/#comment-12</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[electronic discovery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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