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		<title>Comment on It’s Not All About You, or The Case for Empathy by Celeste</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you respond to her? Is she even at a point where she could be receptive to the bigger issues at play here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you respond to her? Is she even at a point where she could be receptive to the bigger issues at play here?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quoted: Resistance on Club Membership by mk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a much-needed reminder right now...cause I don't think it's a one-time loss. It's worth it, and I couldn't live with myself if I didn't speak out, but I think every time I learn something that I didn't know and feel like I have to start speaking up when someone says something that's offensive or clueless or just plain wrong, there's that potential that I'll lose someone. I'm struggling with that right now in regards to a specific issue, and I've been having trouble finding my voice this time. So thanks Racialicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a much-needed reminder right now&#8230;cause I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a one-time loss. It&#8217;s worth it, and I couldn&#8217;t live with myself if I didn&#8217;t speak out, but I think every time I learn something that I didn&#8217;t know and feel like I have to start speaking up when someone says something that&#8217;s offensive or clueless or just plain wrong, there&#8217;s that potential that I&#8217;ll lose someone. I&#8217;m struggling with that right now in regards to a specific issue, and I&#8217;ve been having trouble finding my voice this time. So thanks Racialicious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good To Know: Sarah Palin Believes In Racial Profiling, Glenn Beck by Pickly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pickly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Keith:

That's not an assumption I'd make at all.  It's the sort of opinion that may be comforting, but it's not as if someone can't have strong beliefs and seek some sort of advantage at the same time.  (Certainly, day to day there are a lot of people who combine beliefs with doing things to the own advantage.

@Digital Coyote:

Unless the viewpoint started at around the time of the beauty thing, that seems a pretty wild assumption to make.  (since it seems more of a celebrity gossip type of explanation that often appears here, where someone's opinion has to be from something they've lost or failed at, as opposed to picking up some opinion or action from somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Keith:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not an assumption I&#8217;d make at all.  It&#8217;s the sort of opinion that may be comforting, but it&#8217;s not as if someone can&#8217;t have strong beliefs and seek some sort of advantage at the same time.  (Certainly, day to day there are a lot of people who combine beliefs with doing things to the own advantage.</p>
<p>@Digital Coyote:</p>
<p>Unless the viewpoint started at around the time of the beauty thing, that seems a pretty wild assumption to make.  (since it seems more of a celebrity gossip type of explanation that often appears here, where someone&#8217;s opinion has to be from something they&#8217;ve lost or failed at, as opposed to picking up some opinion or action from somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good To Know: Sarah Palin Believes In Racial Profiling, Glenn Beck by EMP</title>
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		<dc:creator>EMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don't post that picture of Palin again. *shudders*

 I never knew who Glen Beck was before Mr. Obama became President. He seems to have used fear and hate as a spring board to fame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t post that picture of Palin again. *shudders*</p>
<p> I never knew who Glen Beck was before Mr. Obama became President. He seems to have used fear and hate as a spring board to fame.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ‘Couples Retreat’ Advertising: Now You See POC, Now You Don’t by Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know blues musicians can never be understood in Europe. Or that jazz has no appeal to outside markets. Hip hop never even left the Bronx! As you would expect, movies about these Black Americans only serve to confuse and alienate the rest of the world. Even peripheral exposure of the Blackness can send entire studios spiraling into destitution!

There should also be no question that the US is among the world's top exporters of racist claptrap (e.g., this poster). First they took away the factories, now this has to go, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know blues musicians can never be understood in Europe. Or that jazz has no appeal to outside markets. Hip hop never even left the Bronx! As you would expect, movies about these Black Americans only serve to confuse and alienate the rest of the world. Even peripheral exposure of the Blackness can send entire studios spiraling into destitution!</p>
<p>There should also be no question that the US is among the world&#8217;s top exporters of racist claptrap (e.g., this poster). First they took away the factories, now this has to go, too?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quoted: Resistance on Club Membership by N</title>
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		<dc:creator>N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, its a loss for sure. Perhaps the start of something new and better, but still a loss. Like when a black Baptist in the Bible Belt comes out as an atheist and loses their family and community.   The social consequences are pretty high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, its a loss for sure. Perhaps the start of something new and better, but still a loss. Like when a black Baptist in the Bible Belt comes out as an atheist and loses their family and community.   The social consequences are pretty high.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Is the Haitian? by John McCollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps someone on the writing team reads this blog, because I've noticed a dramatic increase in the quality of The Haitian's character development over the last few episodes.

He now has a name, a will of his own and a moral compass. Although he still fits the "magical negro" trope, he's much, much more human and much more interesting.

And... my own sexual orientation aside (I'm a happily married straight man), Jimmy Jean-Louis is a very beautiful man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps someone on the writing team reads this blog, because I&#8217;ve noticed a dramatic increase in the quality of The Haitian&#8217;s character development over the last few episodes.</p>
<p>He now has a name, a will of his own and a moral compass. Although he still fits the &#8220;magical negro&#8221; trope, he&#8217;s much, much more human and much more interesting.</p>
<p>And&#8230; my own sexual orientation aside (I&#8217;m a happily married straight man), Jimmy Jean-Louis is a very beautiful man.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quoted: Resistance on Club Membership by abrildelsol</title>
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		<dc:creator>abrildelsol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it *is* a loss. It's just a loss that's worth it. You lose something awful in order to gain something beautiful, and that's important. But that doesn't make it - initially - any less painful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it *is* a loss. It&#8217;s just a loss that&#8217;s worth it. You lose something awful in order to gain something beautiful, and that&#8217;s important. But that doesn&#8217;t make it &#8211; initially &#8211; any less painful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Magazine  on Gender, Migrant Work &amp; Rape by Latoya Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latoya Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jen -

I disagree.  The reporter set this up as if it were to be a global story, then focused in on Indonesia.  If one wants to do a story about Indonesia, that's fine - but it looked like the story was going to be farther reaching than it was.  No, that could be the whims of an editor, but there is no harm in asking for specifics.  

No, news stories can't capture the full picture of everything, but I think holding journalism to a lower standard ultimately does more harm than good.  I know, just like you know, that most journalists are humans with lives and deadlines that loom regardless of how deeply one may want to dive into a story.

But I also think that even if we cannot meet these lofty ideals that we set for ourselves, that they need to stay high. Asking for specificity and the voices of women to be included in an article about their lives doesn't strike me as overreaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jen -</p>
<p>I disagree.  The reporter set this up as if it were to be a global story, then focused in on Indonesia.  If one wants to do a story about Indonesia, that&#8217;s fine &#8211; but it looked like the story was going to be farther reaching than it was.  No, that could be the whims of an editor, but there is no harm in asking for specifics.  </p>
<p>No, news stories can&#8217;t capture the full picture of everything, but I think holding journalism to a lower standard ultimately does more harm than good.  I know, just like you know, that most journalists are humans with lives and deadlines that loom regardless of how deeply one may want to dive into a story.</p>
<p>But I also think that even if we cannot meet these lofty ideals that we set for ourselves, that they need to stay high. Asking for specificity and the voices of women to be included in an article about their lives doesn&#8217;t strike me as overreaching.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Racialicious Roundtable For Flash Forward 1.8 by Ishtar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ishtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mary

You have a window into my mind, right? Go on. Admit it. There is no other explanation for you writing exactly what I was thinking.

Mark is unsympathetic to everyone. There is real warmth among his colleagues so why do they have to put up with this cold fish? He's rash, immature, selfish, sulky and a downright bore. Why can't he be the victim of a random act of violence. Ok maybe not so random because I volunteer to pull the trigger.

Why can't Demetri be the lead? And we need to see more of Janis. I like her. Stan isn't getting enough screen time IMO. He showed a different side of himself in that ep where he visited the Prez's former mistress and then blackmailed the Prez. I like that he can be ruthless when he feels its required. Mark doesn't deserve a boss like that.

Oh and did I mention that Mark should die? 

As for Al's suicide...I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I had an emotional investment in the character and liked learning more about him in each episode. Also, he was hot. Damn hot. On the other hand, his suicide served as a powerful symbol to others that they were not slaves to their Flash Forwards. Still, I'll miss him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mary</p>
<p>You have a window into my mind, right? Go on. Admit it. There is no other explanation for you writing exactly what I was thinking.</p>
<p>Mark is unsympathetic to everyone. There is real warmth among his colleagues so why do they have to put up with this cold fish? He&#8217;s rash, immature, selfish, sulky and a downright bore. Why can&#8217;t he be the victim of a random act of violence. Ok maybe not so random because I volunteer to pull the trigger.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t Demetri be the lead? And we need to see more of Janis. I like her. Stan isn&#8217;t getting enough screen time IMO. He showed a different side of himself in that ep where he visited the Prez&#8217;s former mistress and then blackmailed the Prez. I like that he can be ruthless when he feels its required. Mark doesn&#8217;t deserve a boss like that.</p>
<p>Oh and did I mention that Mark should die? </p>
<p>As for Al&#8217;s suicide&#8230;I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I had an emotional investment in the character and liked learning more about him in each episode. Also, he was hot. Damn hot. On the other hand, his suicide served as a powerful symbol to others that they were not slaves to their Flash Forwards. Still, I&#8217;ll miss him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Magazine  on Gender, Migrant Work &amp; Rape by Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think I came across as a little defensive there - I just think people sometimes expect a little too much out of journalists. One news story is never going to be able to capture the full picture of anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think I came across as a little defensive there &#8211; I just think people sometimes expect a little too much out of journalists. One news story is never going to be able to capture the full picture of anything.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good To Know: Sarah Palin Believes In Racial Profiling, Glenn Beck by Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Beck and Palin are opportunists, looking to get even richer off the fears of an already over worked, underpaid, stressed, and  struggling white working class population. I doubt they even believe half the conservative talking points they parrot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Beck and Palin are opportunists, looking to get even richer off the fears of an already over worked, underpaid, stressed, and  struggling white working class population. I doubt they even believe half the conservative talking points they parrot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Magazine  on Gender, Migrant Work &amp; Rape by Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of the story "localising" the problem - it's about Indonesian migrant workers, and about a very specific group of them. 

It is a story about women who get raped while overseas and then feel that for a range of reasons they cannot raise their children. I don't get a tsk tsk vibe at all, and I don't really see why that's a bad subject for a story. Look at the list of consequences of rape that are given: ostracisation, abandonment, deportation. I get a "this is so awful I don't know what to say" vibe. 

It's clearly not meant to be a wide ranging piece. It notes that there are 100 million migrant workers around the world, and that this is the result of globalisation, but the story focuses on Indonesians. I think expecting every story on migrant workers to discuss the plight of every group around the world is a bit much. And next to it is a link to a more general story about migrant workers elsewhere ("Migrant Workers: A Hard Life Gets Harder"). I understand your concern that it might again smack of connecting rape with the Mid East, but what would you prefer the Time correspondent in Jakarta to write about? He's going to write about Indonesian experiences. And not every news story can be a few thousand words long (I would like to see better use of hyperlinks in stories for this reason, actually - this one should contain links to a range of background stories).

I do find it a little surprising that the story does not quote any migrant workers themselves, although I know from experience that it can be hard to get them to talk on the record, due to fears about retribution, be it from family, immigration agents, or that it may cause them problems should they want to go overseas again. Never mind that these women have been through traumatising experiences and may not want to live them again. Or that the sight of a white journalist might not be particularly comforting.

My main problem with this piece is actually the complete lack of a discussion about the fate of Indonesian migrant workers in Malaysia, which seems an odd ommission given that it's almost constantly in the news. The Indonesian embassy in Kuala Lumpur has a dormitory out the back to house migrant workers who are in legal disputes with their employers (I almost typed "owners" there, since that's really how they're treated) over abuse. 

It is certainly not overstating the abuse suffered by Indonesian workers in Saudi and elsewhere. This is a story my old editor filed a few years ago; the situation has not changed: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2006/05/10/coming-home-dark-039trade039-flight-qr-626.html
In general, the Post and the Jakarta Globe focus heavily on the experiences of migrant workers.

If you're interested in Southeast Asian NGOs that specifically focus on migrant workers, there's Migrant Care (www.migrantcare.net website is in Bahasa Indonesia but sometimes they put out statements in English), the Asia Pacific Mission for Migrants (http://www.apmigrants.org/) and the Migrant Forum in Asia (http://www.mfasia.org/).

And there's also a fantastic book called Maid in Hong Kong, about the experiences of migrant workers there (including industrial action and their struggle for better pay and living standards) by Nicole Constable. It's mainly about Philippina workers, but there is some focus on Indonesians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of the story &#8220;localising&#8221; the problem &#8211; it&#8217;s about Indonesian migrant workers, and about a very specific group of them. </p>
<p>It is a story about women who get raped while overseas and then feel that for a range of reasons they cannot raise their children. I don&#8217;t get a tsk tsk vibe at all, and I don&#8217;t really see why that&#8217;s a bad subject for a story. Look at the list of consequences of rape that are given: ostracisation, abandonment, deportation. I get a &#8220;this is so awful I don&#8217;t know what to say&#8221; vibe. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s clearly not meant to be a wide ranging piece. It notes that there are 100 million migrant workers around the world, and that this is the result of globalisation, but the story focuses on Indonesians. I think expecting every story on migrant workers to discuss the plight of every group around the world is a bit much. And next to it is a link to a more general story about migrant workers elsewhere (&#8221;Migrant Workers: A Hard Life Gets Harder&#8221;). I understand your concern that it might again smack of connecting rape with the Mid East, but what would you prefer the Time correspondent in Jakarta to write about? He&#8217;s going to write about Indonesian experiences. And not every news story can be a few thousand words long (I would like to see better use of hyperlinks in stories for this reason, actually &#8211; this one should contain links to a range of background stories).</p>
<p>I do find it a little surprising that the story does not quote any migrant workers themselves, although I know from experience that it can be hard to get them to talk on the record, due to fears about retribution, be it from family, immigration agents, or that it may cause them problems should they want to go overseas again. Never mind that these women have been through traumatising experiences and may not want to live them again. Or that the sight of a white journalist might not be particularly comforting.</p>
<p>My main problem with this piece is actually the complete lack of a discussion about the fate of Indonesian migrant workers in Malaysia, which seems an odd ommission given that it&#8217;s almost constantly in the news. The Indonesian embassy in Kuala Lumpur has a dormitory out the back to house migrant workers who are in legal disputes with their employers (I almost typed &#8220;owners&#8221; there, since that&#8217;s really how they&#8217;re treated) over abuse. </p>
<p>It is certainly not overstating the abuse suffered by Indonesian workers in Saudi and elsewhere. This is a story my old editor filed a few years ago; the situation has not changed: <a href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2006/05/10/coming-home-dark-039trade039-flight-qr-626.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2006/05/10/coming-home-dark-039trade039-flight-qr-626.html</a><br />
In general, the Post and the Jakarta Globe focus heavily on the experiences of migrant workers.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in Southeast Asian NGOs that specifically focus on migrant workers, there&#8217;s Migrant Care (www.migrantcare.net website is in Bahasa Indonesia but sometimes they put out statements in English), the Asia Pacific Mission for Migrants (<a href="http://www.apmigrants.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.apmigrants.org/</a>) and the Migrant Forum in Asia (<a href="http://www.mfasia.org/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.mfasia.org/)</a>.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s also a fantastic book called Maid in Hong Kong, about the experiences of migrant workers there (including industrial action and their struggle for better pay and living standards) by Nicole Constable. It&#8217;s mainly about Philippina workers, but there is some focus on Indonesians.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did CNN say “ya basta” to Lou Dobbs? by nihilix</title>
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		<dc:creator>nihilix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's fine to call a rolling head. Forcing voices of intolerance off of commercial media is a great victory. It's not about speech, of course, it's about what kind of product the corporate media can get away with serving up.

Further, the only extremism that gets on nationwide corporate media is right-wing extremism. When was the last time you heard John Stewart or Rachel Maddow advocating for the nationalization of the internet, or the abolition of private property, or a 100% estate tax. Those are the more radical ideas you'll find on the left, but you never get those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fine to call a rolling head. Forcing voices of intolerance off of commercial media is a great victory. It&#8217;s not about speech, of course, it&#8217;s about what kind of product the corporate media can get away with serving up.</p>
<p>Further, the only extremism that gets on nationwide corporate media is right-wing extremism. When was the last time you heard John Stewart or Rachel Maddow advocating for the nationalization of the internet, or the abolition of private property, or a 100% estate tax. Those are the more radical ideas you&#8217;ll find on the left, but you never get those.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unreported by ashlynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashlynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh goodness, the "What Was She Wearing?" Defense. As if what a woman is wearing gives you the right to harass her. Its the same way that a man gets angry when a police officer stops him because he's wearing baggy jeans(which are disgusting anyway, but that's a another day) and a doo-rag.  

Did it never occur that we buy low-cut tops because WE like what we see? Since when does some stranger come into the equation? When we dress, we dress for ourselves primarily, and our SO's, jobs, secondarily. Mr. "Smile, Princess"  on the street is not even remotely on our minds. So why would you assume that when I bought those skinny jeans, I bought them so you, random person on the corner who I don't even know, could tell me about myself in them? 

Really though? Sir, you are bugging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh goodness, the &#8220;What Was She Wearing?&#8221; Defense. As if what a woman is wearing gives you the right to harass her. Its the same way that a man gets angry when a police officer stops him because he&#8217;s wearing baggy jeans(which are disgusting anyway, but that&#8217;s a another day) and a doo-rag.  </p>
<p>Did it never occur that we buy low-cut tops because WE like what we see? Since when does some stranger come into the equation? When we dress, we dress for ourselves primarily, and our SO&#8217;s, jobs, secondarily. Mr. &#8220;Smile, Princess&#8221;  on the street is not even remotely on our minds. So why would you assume that when I bought those skinny jeans, I bought them so you, random person on the corner who I don&#8217;t even know, could tell me about myself in them? </p>
<p>Really though? Sir, you are bugging.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fort Hood and the Media by Sobia</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/11/17/fort-hood-and-the-media/#comment-2047259</link>
		<dc:creator>Sobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point it appears that the discourse has gone beyond "Islam is inherently violent" to "Muslims are inherently violent." The discourse has now become such that all Muslims are seen with suspicion and are automatically assumed dangerous and violent unless we prove ourselves to not be violent. 

Mind you, this belief was around alive and well pre-9/11 as well. Anyone who grew up in the US and Canada in the 80's, post Iranian revolution, will remember the demonization of Muslims as violent well before September 11th, 2001.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point it appears that the discourse has gone beyond &#8220;Islam is inherently violent&#8221; to &#8220;Muslims are inherently violent.&#8221; The discourse has now become such that all Muslims are seen with suspicion and are automatically assumed dangerous and violent unless we prove ourselves to not be violent. </p>
<p>Mind you, this belief was around alive and well pre-9/11 as well. Anyone who grew up in the US and Canada in the 80&#8217;s, post Iranian revolution, will remember the demonization of Muslims as violent well before September 11th, 2001.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unreported by Keeley</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/11/18/unreported/#comment-2047258</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to hear about these sorts of things happening. And that they seem to be so common- makes me feel like a person has no reason to feel safe in the company of someone with so much power... especially when you're suppose to trust the police to protect you. Even in a small town where you assume that 'these things don't happen' actually do. I live in a small town when something similar happened to myself. I was driving around looking at Christmas lights and was pulled over by this cop for driving past a stop sign (that didn't exist). I did not contradict him though and apologized. He then made me leave the car and followed me while making me walk home. Not more then a week later he pulled me over while I was walking to my grandmother's house and accused me of being drunk (confused because I have never taken a drink in my life) and had me blow into a breathalyzer multiple times despite it always coming up as clean. It is so frustrating not knowing what to do when you're in an position of zero power... and who is going to believe you if you try to report? In a small town, all the cops are buddies. I just do not go out anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to hear about these sorts of things happening. And that they seem to be so common- makes me feel like a person has no reason to feel safe in the company of someone with so much power&#8230; especially when you&#8217;re suppose to trust the police to protect you. Even in a small town where you assume that &#8216;these things don&#8217;t happen&#8217; actually do. I live in a small town when something similar happened to myself. I was driving around looking at Christmas lights and was pulled over by this cop for driving past a stop sign (that didn&#8217;t exist). I did not contradict him though and apologized. He then made me leave the car and followed me while making me walk home. Not more then a week later he pulled me over while I was walking to my grandmother&#8217;s house and accused me of being drunk (confused because I have never taken a drink in my life) and had me blow into a breathalyzer multiple times despite it always coming up as clean. It is so frustrating not knowing what to do when you&#8217;re in an position of zero power&#8230; and who is going to believe you if you try to report? In a small town, all the cops are buddies. I just do not go out anymore.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quoted: Malika Saada Saar on the ‘Precious’ Ending That Should Have Been Shown by Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/11/18/quoted-malika-saada-saar-on-the-precious-ending-that-should-have-been-shown/#comment-2047256</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish someone had told me it wasn't my fault.  All the trouble i got into could have been avoided, or at least lessened, had someone bothered to find out what the problem really was.  Keep up the good work...there are far too few people like you in the world.  Bless you for giving these girls a voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish someone had told me it wasn&#8217;t my fault.  All the trouble i got into could have been avoided, or at least lessened, had someone bothered to find out what the problem really was.  Keep up the good work&#8230;there are far too few people like you in the world.  Bless you for giving these girls a voice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did CNN say “ya basta” to Lou Dobbs? by ashlynn</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/11/19/did-cnn-say-%e2%80%9cya-basta%e2%80%9d-to-lou-dobbs/#comment-2047254</link>
		<dc:creator>ashlynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just reading this in a Daily News article on the train ride home. even with Dobbs gone, I don't think I can trust CNN anymore, at least not for a long while. To have allowed him to go on for so long sickens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading this in a Daily News article on the train ride home. even with Dobbs gone, I don&#8217;t think I can trust CNN anymore, at least not for a long while. To have allowed him to go on for so long sickens me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good To Know: Sarah Palin Believes In Racial Profiling, Glenn Beck by ashlynn</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/11/19/good-to-know-sarah-palin-believes-in-racial-profiling-glenn-beck/#comment-2047253</link>
		<dc:creator>ashlynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with atlasien- the chances of internment camps returning are slim to none. We as minorities, are definitely in a position where we certainly would be able to quash even the mildest thought. And if that were to be- that history would attempt to repeat itself- we would make sure it doesn't.

But still, people like Palin and Beck definitely are planting seeds of worry in many of us. Between Beck's penchant for hate speech and Palin's sheer incompetence, the potential damage is untold...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with atlasien- the chances of internment camps returning are slim to none. We as minorities, are definitely in a position where we certainly would be able to quash even the mildest thought. And if that were to be- that history would attempt to repeat itself- we would make sure it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But still, people like Palin and Beck definitely are planting seeds of worry in many of us. Between Beck&#8217;s penchant for hate speech and Palin&#8217;s sheer incompetence, the potential damage is untold&#8230;</p>
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