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	<title>Comments for Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
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		<title>Comment on What if Racialicious wasn’t just a blog, but an actual experience? by Nikki</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/02/what-if-racialicious-wasn%e2%80%99t-just-a-blog-but-an-actual-experience/#comment-1744126</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea! Wish I was available during either of the two sessions. Maybe next time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea! Wish I was available during either of the two sessions. Maybe next time?</p>
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		<title>Comment on discrimination suit: “live with your people” by GueraLola</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/03/discrimination-suit-live-with-your-people/#comment-1743985</link>
		<dc:creator>GueraLola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/03/discrimination-suit-live-with-your-people/#comment-1743985</guid>
		<description>Good for her for suing,  plus with today's economy  people being kicked out because of lack of jobs and something like this comes up. That's  disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for her for suing,  plus with today&#8217;s economy  people being kicked out because of lack of jobs and something like this comes up. That&#8217;s  disgusting.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beyond The Twins: Another look at Revenge Of The Fallen’s Character Flaws by Urban Suburbinite</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/06/30/beyond-the-twins-another-look-at-revenge-of-the-fallens-character-flaws/#comment-1743969</link>
		<dc:creator>Urban Suburbinite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dejamorgana, 
 I agree with everything you said. [Except one Nitpic] Egypt is an African country, not middle eastern. It  has always irked me how Egypt is not considered African, especially by the media. Yes it has a large population of people who migrated  from the middle east and bringing their culture with them culture, but it is still on the continent of Africa.  If you look at the bust of Nefertiti, she looks like many black women I see today. 

http://www.101destinations.com/images/Nefertiti_berlin.jpg 

http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/w/wnew_nefertiti/nefertiti1.jpg

I see Pharaoh Tutankhamun in the faces of brothers on the street.

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07/tutankhamun_243x324.jpg

It makes me feel like because Egypt was an empire, they want to remove all historical blackness from it. 

I know people will say "but the culture" this, or "the population" that, but if we go by that Miami would be part of Cuba, and Long Island part of Italy, rather than American cities rich with Cuban, and Italian culture respectively.

I know so off topic, but yeah T2- Rise of the Sambots sucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dejamorgana,<br />
 I agree with everything you said. [Except one Nitpic] Egypt is an African country, not middle eastern. It  has always irked me how Egypt is not considered African, especially by the media. Yes it has a large population of people who migrated  from the middle east and bringing their culture with them culture, but it is still on the continent of Africa.  If you look at the bust of Nefertiti, she looks like many black women I see today. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.101destinations.com/images/Nefertiti_berlin.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.101destinations.com/images/Nefertiti_berlin.jpg</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/w/wnew_nefertiti/nefertiti1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/w/wnew_nefertiti/nefertiti1.jpg</a></p>
<p>I see Pharaoh Tutankhamun in the faces of brothers on the street.</p>
<p><a href="http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07/tutankhamun_243x324.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07/tutankhamun_243&#215;324.jpg</a></p>
<p>It makes me feel like because Egypt was an empire, they want to remove all historical blackness from it. </p>
<p>I know people will say &#8220;but the culture&#8221; this, or &#8220;the population&#8221; that, but if we go by that Miami would be part of Cuba, and Long Island part of Italy, rather than American cities rich with Cuban, and Italian culture respectively.</p>
<p>I know so off topic, but yeah T2- Rise of the Sambots sucked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on discrimination suit: “live with your people” by N</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/03/discrimination-suit-live-with-your-people/#comment-1743880</link>
		<dc:creator>N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/03/discrimination-suit-live-with-your-people/#comment-1743880</guid>
		<description>Amazing. Depressing, distressing and amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing. Depressing, distressing and amazing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Played Whom?  Gawker Media and Tionna Smalls by Babycakes</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2008/03/07/who-played-whom-gawker-media-and-tionna-smalls/#comment-1743819</link>
		<dc:creator>Babycakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gawker changed, financially and staff wise, right about the time Tionna left.  Tionna was fresh and interesting and many times I checked the site just to find her latest posting.  There are racists everywhere and she never let it stop her from being herself and giving good and kind advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gawker changed, financially and staff wise, right about the time Tionna left.  Tionna was fresh and interesting and many times I checked the site just to find her latest posting.  There are racists everywhere and she never let it stop her from being herself and giving good and kind advice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on discrimination suit: “live with your people” by Naturally Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/03/discrimination-suit-live-with-your-people/#comment-1743805</link>
		<dc:creator>Naturally Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/03/discrimination-suit-live-with-your-people/#comment-1743805</guid>
		<description>This is so blatantly, disgustingly racist, it makes me sick to my stomach.  I hope she wipes them out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so blatantly, disgustingly racist, it makes me sick to my stomach.  I hope she wipes them out!</p>
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		<title>Comment on discrimination suit: “live with your people” by Marcy Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/03/discrimination-suit-live-with-your-people/#comment-1743765</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcy Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/03/discrimination-suit-live-with-your-people/#comment-1743765</guid>
		<description>I read that the board wanted to evict Mrs. Sheen and her family from the apartment because she made, according to them, unauthorized renovations. However, that is a separate issue from being told, "go and live with your people", on the basis of race.  If Mrs. Sheen did in fact make unauthorized renovations, then, she needs to be held accountable, per the apartment association's regulations. But, she doesn't deserve to be harrassed, on the basis of race/ethnicity, or anything else.

I guess the folks on the board were never told that "you people" and variations thereof, is not the thing to say to people of color.  Apparently, they never read the Fair Housing Act of 1968.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that the board wanted to evict Mrs. Sheen and her family from the apartment because she made, according to them, unauthorized renovations. However, that is a separate issue from being told, &#8220;go and live with your people&#8221;, on the basis of race.  If Mrs. Sheen did in fact make unauthorized renovations, then, she needs to be held accountable, per the apartment association&#8217;s regulations. But, she doesn&#8217;t deserve to be harrassed, on the basis of race/ethnicity, or anything else.</p>
<p>I guess the folks on the board were never told that &#8220;you people&#8221; and variations thereof, is not the thing to say to people of color.  Apparently, they never read the Fair Housing Act of 1968.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Brazil Files: Colossal Ewwww: Playing Brazil an Insult to…Everyone? by Kaonashi</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/02/the-brazil-files-colossal-ewwww-playing-brazil-an-insult-toeveryone/#comment-1743471</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaonashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ N:

Uh, I really hope that you didn't take offense that I was in complete agreement with what you said!


The fact that people generally think you're overreacting if you talk about it (or even worse, think you "deserve" that sort of treatment) makes me very angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ N:</p>
<p>Uh, I really hope that you didn&#8217;t take offense that I was in complete agreement with what you said!</p>
<p>The fact that people generally think you&#8217;re overreacting if you talk about it (or even worse, think you &#8220;deserve&#8221; that sort of treatment) makes me very angry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Brazil Files: Colossal Ewwww: Playing Brazil an Insult to…Everyone? by Adrianna</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/02/the-brazil-files-colossal-ewwww-playing-brazil-an-insult-toeveryone/#comment-1743030</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sick . douchebags are everywhere. I get the whole exotic Creole girl. It's everywhere in the world. It's disgusting .Is it too much to ask to be seen as human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sick . douchebags are everywhere. I get the whole exotic Creole girl. It&#8217;s everywhere in the world. It&#8217;s disgusting .Is it too much to ask to be seen as human being.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Brazil Files: Colossal Ewwww: Playing Brazil an Insult to…Everyone? by Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/02/the-brazil-files-colossal-ewwww-playing-brazil-an-insult-toeveryone/#comment-1742937</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Msday: Im mullato and moving to n Italy in the next couple weeks. Your comment was a bit disheartening. The first guy who assumes Im a prostitute is going to get a nice hard slap accross the face!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Msday: Im mullato and moving to n Italy in the next couple weeks. Your comment was a bit disheartening. The first guy who assumes Im a prostitute is going to get a nice hard slap accross the face!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quoted: Reggaeton and Race by ashlynn</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/01/quoted-reggaeton-and-race/#comment-1742794</link>
		<dc:creator>ashlynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@atlasien: now that, I can agree with. I listen to indie rock, but it takes me a loong time before I can pick on music that I really like (Death Cab for Cute FTW).  My thing mostly lies in the beat, but indie rock has plenty of inaccessible melodies that I can't get down with either, so I appreciate that POV on it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@atlasien: now that, I can agree with. I listen to indie rock, but it takes me a loong time before I can pick on music that I really like (Death Cab for Cute FTW).  My thing mostly lies in the beat, but indie rock has plenty of inaccessible melodies that I can&#8217;t get down with either, so I appreciate that POV on it. <img src='http://www.racialicious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on “From the Wilds of America” – Analyzing the Idea of “British Colonial America” in Steampunk [Essay] by Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/01/%e2%80%9cfrom-the-wilds-of-america%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-analyzing-the-idea-of-%e2%80%9cbritish-colonial-america%e2%80%9d-in-steampunk-essay/#comment-1742780</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Abu Sinan,

Canadians serving in the British military are rare. We have our own Armed Forces; individual Canadians may choose to immigrate and serve in other countries' forces as they wish (the French Foreign Legion is another example.)  Please do not confuse Canada's ties to the same head of state as the UK with continuing political or military colonization.  That is inaccurate - and offensive.

@Jadey 

I share some of your frustrations with this map.  I look at it and see both unexamined colonialism deployed as a playful thing (inappropriate IMO) and then the entire geography of Canada (although with the same political boundaries) divided, without the building of Canada and the reason for those political boundaries acknowledged at all.  So I guess I am torn between two competing frustrations with the map, one, that the problematic parts of the building of Canada are not acknowledged, and two, the erasure of Canada and Canadian history as a distinct entity.  It's definitely a lazy map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Abu Sinan,</p>
<p>Canadians serving in the British military are rare. We have our own Armed Forces; individual Canadians may choose to immigrate and serve in other countries&#8217; forces as they wish (the French Foreign Legion is another example.)  Please do not confuse Canada&#8217;s ties to the same head of state as the UK with continuing political or military colonization.  That is inaccurate - and offensive.</p>
<p>@Jadey </p>
<p>I share some of your frustrations with this map.  I look at it and see both unexamined colonialism deployed as a playful thing (inappropriate IMO) and then the entire geography of Canada (although with the same political boundaries) divided, without the building of Canada and the reason for those political boundaries acknowledged at all.  So I guess I am torn between two competing frustrations with the map, one, that the problematic parts of the building of Canada are not acknowledged, and two, the erasure of Canada and Canadian history as a distinct entity.  It&#8217;s definitely a lazy map.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Michael Jackson on race – and who he saw in the mirror by AC</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/06/30/michael-jackson-on-race-%e2%80%93-and-who-he-saw-in-the-mirror/#comment-1742728</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I really wish that Michael had been more open about the vitiligo thing from the beginning - we wouldn't STILL have people who refuse to believe he had it, and it probably would have helped raise awareness for the condition, which I can imagine must be ridiculously traumatic for those that suffer from it (google "Lee Thomas").  It's sad that people still say he "claimed" to have vitiligo, especially when there are plenty of pictures to be found showing the spotting on his skin in various points in his life.  

The guy was so private, and frankly I don't think we will ever understand exactly what he was thinking or feeling during his life, since we have no reliable narrators. Obviously he had a traumatic childhood, and an eccentric adulthood, but other than that we know jack-all about why he did what he did to himself.  

The one thing that IS clear is that he DID have vitiligo, and especially for someone that seemed to already have issues with their appearance (thanks Joe, you sociopathic fuck), I can only imagine how discovering you were slowly changing color would feel.  From what I've heard from others who suffer from the same condition, for some it is easier to attempt to rid themselves of all pigmentation than to try and use makeup to keep themselves the same shade they were originally.  All the testimony from vitiligo sufferers that I have encountered seem to express sympathy and understanding for Michael (and note that vitiligo is not just a disease that affects black folks - another thing I didn't know before). I won't comment on the plastic surgery or any of the other odd behaviors he showed over the years, but I think people should at least accept that the skin thing wasn't just "oh hey, I think I'll turn myself white!"

If there are 2 things I've learned from his death, it's that no matter how embarrassing it is, coming clean about something is probably better than whatever the public will assume, and that people will believe any crazy shit about a famous person, and even when disproven they will cling to it like a dog drooling on your best shoes. (Granted, I already knew the second one thanks to last year's election. good lord)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I really wish that Michael had been more open about the vitiligo thing from the beginning - we wouldn&#8217;t STILL have people who refuse to believe he had it, and it probably would have helped raise awareness for the condition, which I can imagine must be ridiculously traumatic for those that suffer from it (google &#8220;Lee Thomas&#8221;).  It&#8217;s sad that people still say he &#8220;claimed&#8221; to have vitiligo, especially when there are plenty of pictures to be found showing the spotting on his skin in various points in his life.  </p>
<p>The guy was so private, and frankly I don&#8217;t think we will ever understand exactly what he was thinking or feeling during his life, since we have no reliable narrators. Obviously he had a traumatic childhood, and an eccentric adulthood, but other than that we know jack-all about why he did what he did to himself.  </p>
<p>The one thing that IS clear is that he DID have vitiligo, and especially for someone that seemed to already have issues with their appearance (thanks Joe, you sociopathic fuck), I can only imagine how discovering you were slowly changing color would feel.  From what I&#8217;ve heard from others who suffer from the same condition, for some it is easier to attempt to rid themselves of all pigmentation than to try and use makeup to keep themselves the same shade they were originally.  All the testimony from vitiligo sufferers that I have encountered seem to express sympathy and understanding for Michael (and note that vitiligo is not just a disease that affects black folks - another thing I didn&#8217;t know before). I won&#8217;t comment on the plastic surgery or any of the other odd behaviors he showed over the years, but I think people should at least accept that the skin thing wasn&#8217;t just &#8220;oh hey, I think I&#8217;ll turn myself white!&#8221;</p>
<p>If there are 2 things I&#8217;ve learned from his death, it&#8217;s that no matter how embarrassing it is, coming clean about something is probably better than whatever the public will assume, and that people will believe any crazy shit about a famous person, and even when disproven they will cling to it like a dog drooling on your best shoes. (Granted, I already knew the second one thanks to last year&#8217;s election. good lord)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Must brown people be martyred for Americans to be motivated? by Isaac</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/06/23/must-brown-people-be-martyred-for-americans-to-be-motivated/#comment-1742659</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/06/23/must-brown-people-be-martyred-for-americans-to-be-motivated/#comment-1742659</guid>
		<description>I never knew Persians were brown. Last time I checked the word Aryan came from the word Iran.</description>
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		<title>Comment on “From the Wilds of America” – Analyzing the Idea of “British Colonial America” in Steampunk [Essay] by Abu Sinan</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/01/%e2%80%9cfrom-the-wilds-of-america%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-analyzing-the-idea-of-%e2%80%9cbritish-colonial-america%e2%80%9d-in-steampunk-essay/#comment-1742429</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Sinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Baiskeli,

  Great points.  I guess people forget the history of the Brits in South Africa, the home of the first concentration camps where they locked up white Afrikaners.

  If they'd locked up white women and children and let tens of thousands of them die why would anyone think they'd spare brown American Indians from a similar or worse fate?

  It makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Baiskeli,</p>
<p>  Great points.  I guess people forget the history of the Brits in South Africa, the home of the first concentration camps where they locked up white Afrikaners.</p>
<p>  If they&#8217;d locked up white women and children and let tens of thousands of them die why would anyone think they&#8217;d spare brown American Indians from a similar or worse fate?</p>
<p>  It makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Michael Jackson on race – and who he saw in the mirror by karak</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/06/30/michael-jackson-on-race-%e2%80%93-and-who-he-saw-in-the-mirror/#comment-1742313</link>
		<dc:creator>karak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Jackson did alter the darkness of his skin and the shape of his face to be not-black. But he never changed his hair color or his eye color (which is inexpensive and easy). 

You have to wonder why. I think he had body dysmorphia and he had some image that he kept trying to create in his own face. 

Or, possibly, he had a routine plastic surgery go terribly wrong, and he just needed more and more surgeries to try to fix it, and then fix those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Jackson did alter the darkness of his skin and the shape of his face to be not-black. But he never changed his hair color or his eye color (which is inexpensive and easy). </p>
<p>You have to wonder why. I think he had body dysmorphia and he had some image that he kept trying to create in his own face. </p>
<p>Or, possibly, he had a routine plastic surgery go terribly wrong, and he just needed more and more surgeries to try to fix it, and then fix those.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New York Times Frames Sex Selection As “Culturally Asian” by karak</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/02/new-york-times-frames-sex-selection-as-culturally-asian/#comment-1742294</link>
		<dc:creator>karak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd say religious notions of morality play a big part-- many white and black Americans are American Protestant Christians in either culture, belief, or both, and there are strong taboos against interfering in birth or "God's Will" that aren't reflected in a lot of the faiths practiced in East Asia and India.

In most cultures, boys are used to pass on a name or a bloodline.  Most white/black Americans have been in the US for a while and have alternate male bloodlines. "I have all girls, but my brother's sons will be Martins and the family name lives on!" Since many immigrants have to leave behind their families, they might be invested in making sure they have a male heir to preserve their bloodline and culture.

That was actually a big concern of my ex-boyfriend's Vietnamese family. They wanted  him to have a boy so that the family name would exist in the US. Generalizing that experience to all Asians, however, might be a little reaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say religious notions of morality play a big part&#8211; many white and black Americans are American Protestant Christians in either culture, belief, or both, and there are strong taboos against interfering in birth or &#8220;God&#8217;s Will&#8221; that aren&#8217;t reflected in a lot of the faiths practiced in East Asia and India.</p>
<p>In most cultures, boys are used to pass on a name or a bloodline.  Most white/black Americans have been in the US for a while and have alternate male bloodlines. &#8220;I have all girls, but my brother&#8217;s sons will be Martins and the family name lives on!&#8221; Since many immigrants have to leave behind their families, they might be invested in making sure they have a male heir to preserve their bloodline and culture.</p>
<p>That was actually a big concern of my ex-boyfriend&#8217;s Vietnamese family. They wanted  him to have a boy so that the family name would exist in the US. Generalizing that experience to all Asians, however, might be a little reaching.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New York Times Frames Sex Selection As “Culturally Asian” by TN</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/02/new-york-times-frames-sex-selection-as-culturally-asian/#comment-1742242</link>
		<dc:creator>TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15. Anonymous wrote:

&lt;i&gt;Maybe it is better if parents who would resent a girl do’t have one. I know some very angry girls.&lt;/i&gt;

hmmm angry girls... sounds like me and my two younger sisters... my mother is now stuck with her one and only son who is unemployed, doesn't help with housework or even talk to her... she waits on him hand and foot because he's a male while all us girls have moved out of home because she was basically driving us three girls mental with her demands of our virginity/purity, marriage, religious faith etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15. Anonymous wrote:</p>
<p><i>Maybe it is better if parents who would resent a girl do’t have one. I know some very angry girls.</i></p>
<p>hmmm angry girls&#8230; sounds like me and my two younger sisters&#8230; my mother is now stuck with her one and only son who is unemployed, doesn&#8217;t help with housework or even talk to her&#8230; she waits on him hand and foot because he&#8217;s a male while all us girls have moved out of home because she was basically driving us three girls mental with her demands of our virginity/purity, marriage, religious faith etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “From the Wilds of America” – Analyzing the Idea of “British Colonial America” in Steampunk [Essay] by m.</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/01/%e2%80%9cfrom-the-wilds-of-america%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-analyzing-the-idea-of-%e2%80%9cbritish-colonial-america%e2%80%9d-in-steampunk-essay/#comment-1742217</link>
		<dc:creator>m.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Danny:
Hey. What I said is truth, yes, but I hope you don't feel like your input isn't valuable because of my comment...or, uh, my tone. I don't know anything about you, you only mentioned you are "not of the same heritage as the European colonizers", but it's always interesting to hear other peoples' comments about what life would have been like *for them and theirs*. Because I do think that's interesting and important (and I'm sorry if I came off like it's not), I just *don't* feel that it's useful or appropriate to speculate over what would've "been better" for those of us who are Indigenous. It offends me, there is no such thing as a "lesser of two (or three, or four, or twenty) evils" when it comes to colonization, imperialism, genocide, forced relocation, abduction, slavery, racism. I'm sure I'd have some laughs making fun of the mounted police up in Canada (another mainstay thanks to their adoration of the aforementioned British fuckin' monarchy - oops, harshness) like I did when I was up there before, but I also wouldn't have too much fun getting treated like a domestic terrorist for being a Native activist. Oh wait,  that's just like the US. See what I mean? That's what it's like for Indians, I don't know what'd it be like for everyone else. Because I'm not everyone else. I think you get my point; for me, this is about my own people.

HOWEVER. I can't even begin to broach the topic of slavery, something that has been mentioned several times in these comments. But I do want to add that this made me upset, too, I jut don't have anything useful to say. I mean, other than the obvious: fewer people would have suffered/died, of course, and that's a lot better than more. But, as if abolishing slavery at an earlier date would have altered history from then up until now so much, that the Black/African American community would suffer fewer inequities? Yeah, no. And I bet fewer Black people would suffer from intergenerational trauma, huh? Because that'd, like, give them a head-start on that healing process. (Not that they wouldn't be dealing with anything else along the way to the 21st century...) Yeah, no.
I don't differentiate between Spanish conquistadors, the British crown, French explorers or (white) American soldiers. To put it lightly: they all had a hand in this shit.

I also want to add that I do think that what steampunks of color are doing is interesting. (I am coming at this from an angle of a punk ex-pat.) Many aspects of these sub-and-counter-cultures are very healthy for people of color to either reclaim (punk, which was NEVER a "white thing") and immerse themselves in (steampunk, something I don't know enough about to comment on too specifically, but always found fascinating). It was useful when I was younger, punk and d.i.y. ethics were what utilized to confront my own oppressions. It was also a form of escapism for me, during times when I needed it the most: battling racism, depression, homophobia, displacement, sexism and dispossession. I'm sure it is the same with steampunk, for steampunks of color. It is definitely not something I'd ever have the energy, the patience, the resources or even the state of mind to immerse myself in (steampunk) or re-visit (any counter-culture), but I admire those who can and do. (Not to mention, I am a fan of science fiction, fantasy and aviator goggles. Hah.) I appreciate other ideas of an alternate history, but people need to be mindful of *where* these unworn paths would have lead and also not integrate Anglophilia into certain spaces.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Danny:<br />
Hey. What I said is truth, yes, but I hope you don&#8217;t feel like your input isn&#8217;t valuable because of my comment&#8230;or, uh, my tone. I don&#8217;t know anything about you, you only mentioned you are &#8220;not of the same heritage as the European colonizers&#8221;, but it&#8217;s always interesting to hear other peoples&#8217; comments about what life would have been like *for them and theirs*. Because I do think that&#8217;s interesting and important (and I&#8217;m sorry if I came off like it&#8217;s not), I just *don&#8217;t* feel that it&#8217;s useful or appropriate to speculate over what would&#8217;ve &#8220;been better&#8221; for those of us who are Indigenous. It offends me, there is no such thing as a &#8220;lesser of two (or three, or four, or twenty) evils&#8221; when it comes to colonization, imperialism, genocide, forced relocation, abduction, slavery, racism. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d have some laughs making fun of the mounted police up in Canada (another mainstay thanks to their adoration of the aforementioned British fuckin&#8217; monarchy - oops, harshness) like I did when I was up there before, but I also wouldn&#8217;t have too much fun getting treated like a domestic terrorist for being a Native activist. Oh wait,  that&#8217;s just like the US. See what I mean? That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s like for Indians, I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;d it be like for everyone else. Because I&#8217;m not everyone else. I think you get my point; for me, this is about my own people.</p>
<p>HOWEVER. I can&#8217;t even begin to broach the topic of slavery, something that has been mentioned several times in these comments. But I do want to add that this made me upset, too, I jut don&#8217;t have anything useful to say. I mean, other than the obvious: fewer people would have suffered/died, of course, and that&#8217;s a lot better than more. But, as if abolishing slavery at an earlier date would have altered history from then up until now so much, that the Black/African American community would suffer fewer inequities? Yeah, no. And I bet fewer Black people would suffer from intergenerational trauma, huh? Because that&#8217;d, like, give them a head-start on that healing process. (Not that they wouldn&#8217;t be dealing with anything else along the way to the 21st century&#8230;) Yeah, no.<br />
I don&#8217;t differentiate between Spanish conquistadors, the British crown, French explorers or (white) American soldiers. To put it lightly: they all had a hand in this shit.</p>
<p>I also want to add that I do think that what steampunks of color are doing is interesting. (I am coming at this from an angle of a punk ex-pat.) Many aspects of these sub-and-counter-cultures are very healthy for people of color to either reclaim (punk, which was NEVER a &#8220;white thing&#8221;) and immerse themselves in (steampunk, something I don&#8217;t know enough about to comment on too specifically, but always found fascinating). It was useful when I was younger, punk and d.i.y. ethics were what utilized to confront my own oppressions. It was also a form of escapism for me, during times when I needed it the most: battling racism, depression, homophobia, displacement, sexism and dispossession. I&#8217;m sure it is the same with steampunk, for steampunks of color. It is definitely not something I&#8217;d ever have the energy, the patience, the resources or even the state of mind to immerse myself in (steampunk) or re-visit (any counter-culture), but I admire those who can and do. (Not to mention, I am a fan of science fiction, fantasy and aviator goggles. Hah.) I appreciate other ideas of an alternate history, but people need to be mindful of *where* these unworn paths would have lead and also not integrate Anglophilia into certain spaces.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New York Times Frames Sex Selection As “Culturally Asian” by KatinPhilly</title>
		<link>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/02/new-york-times-frames-sex-selection-as-culturally-asian/#comment-1742128</link>
		<dc:creator>KatinPhilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/02/new-york-times-frames-sex-selection-as-culturally-asian/#comment-1742128</guid>
		<description>Abu Sinan - abortion is in fact legal in many Arab countries, although severly restricted in most cases (with the exception of Tunisia). And this doesn't prevent women from getting often very unsafe, unsanitary abortions, or finding ingenious ways around those restrictions. It is a huge public health problem.

And yes, I call bullshit that preference for boys is something only found in "other" cultures. I have seen plenty of it even among my feminist friends and colleagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu Sinan - abortion is in fact legal in many Arab countries, although severly restricted in most cases (with the exception of Tunisia). And this doesn&#8217;t prevent women from getting often very unsafe, unsanitary abortions, or finding ingenious ways around those restrictions. It is a huge public health problem.</p>
<p>And yes, I call bullshit that preference for boys is something only found in &#8220;other&#8221; cultures. I have seen plenty of it even among my feminist friends and colleagues.</p>
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