Comments for Science in the open http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen An openwetware blog on the challenges of open and connected science Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:35:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Comment on OMG! This changes EVERYTHING! - or - Yet Another Wave of Adulation by Lwabandji Kindja Jenny http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/jt95LXRjVq8/ Lwabandji Kindja Jenny Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:06:22 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/05/30/omg-this-changes-everything-or-yet-another-wave-of-adulation/#comment-287219 Waiting for the public release and crossing my fingers ... Google Wave will definitevely bring web collaboration to the mass and change mentality (the main challenge in the research community). I attended Google IO end of May, if you have a wave account we can share waves, here my account tigresse@wavesandbox.com Waiting for the public release and crossing my fingers … Google Wave will definitevely bring web collaboration to the mass and change mentality (the main challenge in the research community).

I attended Google IO end of May, if you have a wave account we can share waves, here my account tigresse@wavesandbox.com

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/05/30/omg-this-changes-everything-or-yet-another-wave-of-adulation/#comment-287219 Comment on Some slides for granting permissions (or not) in presentations by Cameron Neylon http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/ND4xQqdvhzk/ Cameron Neylon Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:43:22 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-281118 Leslie, it isn't different in practice or in a legal sense but people feel differently about it, especially if it is "live" or "broadcast". My object was to be explicit about what the presenters _wishes_ are. You can't do much more than that in practice. Ann Marie, sounds good - will try to follow when it happens! Jonathan, it varies from discipline to discipline but in tech and IT areas tweeting and liveblogging are very common. Also becoming common in "industrial" biology areas and bioinformatics. Less so in chemistry and physics but there are pockets there. To turn it around - if you're taking notes, why not maximise your and other people's benefit out of them by making them public? Leslie, it isn’t different in practice or in a legal sense but people feel differently about it, especially if it is “live” or “broadcast”. My object was to be explicit about what the presenters _wishes_ are. You can’t do much more than that in practice.

Ann Marie, sounds good - will try to follow when it happens!

Jonathan, it varies from discipline to discipline but in tech and IT areas tweeting and liveblogging are very common. Also becoming common in “industrial” biology areas and bioinformatics. Less so in chemistry and physics but there are pockets there. To turn it around - if you’re taking notes, why not maximise your and other people’s benefit out of them by making them public?

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-281118 Comment on Some slides for granting permissions (or not) in presentations by Leslie M-B http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/1Y1zpSjDlvc/ Leslie M-B Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:20:50 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-280621 How is "blogging" different from "adapting" or "remixing"? Isn't a live blog of a presentation in some way an adaptation of it? How is “blogging” different from “adapting” or “remixing”? Isn’t a live blog of a presentation in some way an adaptation of it?

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-280621 Comment on Some slides for granting permissions (or not) in presentations by Anne Marie Cunningham http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/E5awQcXjdHw/ Anne Marie Cunningham Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:12:56 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-280578 My recent experiences of tweeting from a conference are here: http://wishfulthinkinginmedicaleducation.blogspot.com/2009/06/tweeting-from-conference.html I'm presenting at a medical education conference later this month and I am going to ask for people to tweet! Thanks Anne Marie My recent experiences of tweeting from a conference are here: http://wishfulthinkinginmedicaleducation.blogspot.com/2009/06/tweeting-from-conference.html

I’m presenting at a medical education conference later this month and I am going to ask for people to tweet!

Thanks
Anne Marie

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-280578 Comment on Some slides for granting permissions (or not) in presentations by Peter Murray-Rust http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/BxqyrMucCxQ/ Peter Murray-Rust Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:05:40 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-277813 At #LOTF09 there were three screens - one was running the tweets in realtime - so the audience could see what they were saying about the speaker(s). Since I was on the panel I couldn't see this and didn't know about it till afterwards. I enjoyed the experience but I can imagine people who wouldn't. The world is changing At #LOTF09 there were three screens - one was running the tweets in realtime - so the audience could see what they were saying about the speaker(s). Since I was on the panel I couldn’t see this and didn’t know about it till afterwards. I enjoyed the experience but I can imagine people who wouldn’t.
The world is changing

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-277813 Comment on Some slides for granting permissions (or not) in presentations by ChemSpiderman http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/ls09SXBT-yY/ ChemSpiderman Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:58:41 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-277625 Great idea :-) I tried to download the slides from Slideshare but was refused/hit a problem. Can you fire them to me by email? thanks Great idea :-) I tried to download the slides from Slideshare but was refused/hit a problem. Can you fire them to me by email? thanks

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-277625 Comment on Some slides for granting permissions (or not) in presentations by Jonathan http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/QnfMx9KaSnI/ Jonathan Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:10:52 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-274134 How about taking regular notes? Does that need to be covered? It could be quite a fine line between note-taking, writing a summary for colleagues, and live blogging. I'm still taken aback by the fact that people actually blog about the presentations they are watching. I can't imagine that happening at any of the conferences I've been to. In fact, half the people usually seem to be writing unrelated e-mails, and the other half asleep. (It will be different at SAS2009, I'm sure!) Perhaps I should try - it might actually encourage me to take notes during the talk if they are in the form of a blog rather than the more traditional form! One final icon. "You are not permitted to: write e-mails during this presentation!" How about taking regular notes? Does that need to be covered? It could be quite a fine line between note-taking, writing a summary for colleagues, and live blogging.

I’m still taken aback by the fact that people actually blog about the presentations they are watching. I can’t imagine that happening at any of the conferences I’ve been to. In fact, half the people usually seem to be writing unrelated e-mails, and the other half asleep. (It will be different at SAS2009, I’m sure!)

Perhaps I should try - it might actually encourage me to take notes during the talk if they are in the form of a blog rather than the more traditional form!

One final icon. “You are not permitted to: write e-mails during this presentation!”

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/30/some-slides-for-granting-permissions-or-not-in-presentations/#comment-274134 Comment on Conferences as Spam? Liveblogging science hits the mainstream by Cameron Neylon http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/CACWVL2IgXw/ Cameron Neylon Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:35:03 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/29/conferences-as-spam-liveblogging-science-hits-the-mainstream/#comment-271911 Ah, but it was more dramatic that way...never let the facts get in the way of a good story etc... Ah, but it was more dramatic that way…never let the facts get in the way of a good story etc…

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/29/conferences-as-spam-liveblogging-science-hits-the-mainstream/#comment-271911 Comment on Conferences as Spam? Liveblogging science hits the mainstream by Egon Willighagen http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/zTKpTCBVghU/ Egon Willighagen Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:19:06 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/29/conferences-as-spam-liveblogging-science-hits-the-mainstream/#comment-271680 I was enjoying the wireless near the registration desk, when the block happened... but the 'Gradually' you mentioned, in real-time, was merely minutes... :) I was enjoying the wireless near the registration desk, when the block happened… but the ‘Gradually’ you mentioned, in real-time, was merely minutes… :)

]]> http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/29/conferences-as-spam-liveblogging-science-hits-the-mainstream/#comment-271680 Comment on Conferences as Spam? Liveblogging science hits the mainstream by Jim Procter http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForScienceInTheOpen/~3/C7PG5acw0RU/ Jim Procter Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:46:47 +0000 http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/2009/06/29/conferences-as-spam-liveblogging-science-hits-the-mainstream/#comment-269744 Thanks a lot, Cameron - personally, I definitely feel like I'm getting more out of ISMB when I'm amongst the friendfeed as well as the talk. It's great to know how the other (occasionally somewhat related) talks in other parallel sessions are doing too! Thanks a lot, Cameron - personally, I definitely feel like I’m getting more out of ISMB when I’m amongst the friendfeed as well as the talk. It’s great to know how the other (occasionally somewhat related) talks in other parallel sessions are doing too!

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