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		<title>Comment on Was the Argent Tournament a Flop? by Diggler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a fun read, but I have to admit, I don't follow the storylines. I have no clue. My main is lvl80 but I didn't read the quests I took, I just let my questhelper guide me and only read the quests I got stuck on. 

It might sound boring but I don't have the attentionspan I guess.. Plus; on weekends I often play drunk... So I don't really know where I've been and done and what NPC'ers done to progress the storylines.

Whatever FTW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a fun read, but I have to admit, I don&#8217;t follow the storylines. I have no clue. My main is lvl80 but I didn&#8217;t read the quests I took, I just let my questhelper guide me and only read the quests I got stuck on. </p>
<p>It might sound boring but I don&#8217;t have the attentionspan I guess.. Plus; on weekends I often play drunk&#8230; So I don&#8217;t really know where I&#8217;ve been and done and what NPC&#8217;ers done to progress the storylines.</p>
<p>Whatever FTW!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Was the Argent Tournament a Flop? by Awesome Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awesome Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like all the mounts, pets and tabbards you can get but the jousting sucks big time.  As far as the storyline goes it feels a bit like it was stuck in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like all the mounts, pets and tabbards you can get but the jousting sucks big time.  As far as the storyline goes it feels a bit like it was stuck in there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Was the Argent Tournament a Flop? by Nochecazador</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nochecazador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hated it. That about sums it up for me. To me it was an idea that was shoe horned in place to test out a dungeon idea for people that were crying about there being to much trash.

I'm disappointed with the ending of this expansion as it seems the Lich King went out with a whimper instead of the awesome strength he started out with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hated it. That about sums it up for me. To me it was an idea that was shoe horned in place to test out a dungeon idea for people that were crying about there being to much trash.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m disappointed with the ending of this expansion as it seems the Lich King went out with a whimper instead of the awesome strength he started out with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Hunter Hall of Fame by Cognar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cognar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tamed 3, but killed Loque’nahak twice, once for frostbitten, and once because I wasn't BM spec'd.  Does that make me a bad guy?  Do I make a BM spec just to get in the hall of fame?  Hmmmm . . .</description>
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		<title>Comment on 5 Things Hunters Do to Annoy Tanks by Papaoomowmow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papaoomowmow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops.....new to site I posted my little screed about keeping recount out of groups before I realized Lassirra had already written a MUCH BETTER editorial saying exactly the same thing.
Sorry...will read em all (with pleasure0 before commenting again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops&#8230;..new to site I posted my little screed about keeping recount out of groups before I realized Lassirra had already written a MUCH BETTER editorial saying exactly the same thing.<br />
Sorry&#8230;will read em all (with pleasure0 before commenting again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Was the Argent Tournament a Flop? by Fluffywumpki of Kilrogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fluffywumpki of Kilrogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It -kind- of fit, just thinking about the general selection process for champion's historically, but not if you're looking at it in terms of building an army.  The Tournament (from an RP standpoint) was really more about finding the Knights and leaders to fill in below the Generals.

That said, as fun as the fights are, Ulduar &gt; Tournament.  Finishing a raid in an hour is efficient, but not enough to hold my interest long term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It -kind- of fit, just thinking about the general selection process for champion&#8217;s historically, but not if you&#8217;re looking at it in terms of building an army.  The Tournament (from an RP standpoint) was really more about finding the Knights and leaders to fill in below the Generals.</p>
<p>That said, as fun as the fights are, Ulduar &gt; Tournament.  Finishing a raid in an hour is efficient, but not enough to hold my interest long term.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Understanding Hardcore Raid Leaders by MockTurtle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTB Edit button for grammar mistakes and typos.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Understanding Hardcore Raid Leaders by MockTurtle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to agree with Jason's statement, though the presentation is a bit inflammatory.

I understand that a person's goals in this game can require them to raid in a hardcore fashion, but there is certainly a cost/benefit ratio involved.  If part of the cost of your gear is becoming a different person in it's pursuit,  a mean-spirited, inflexible person, I would hope that one would find this an unacceptable cost.

I do not raid in any fashion, because I cannot commit to a regular play schedule (job and grad school commitments have to come first), but I do have in-game goals that make the it seem like work sometimes.  That's usually when I take a week or so off, and do something else that I enjoy.  Jason's point that this game is intended to be a stress reliever is important, I think.  We all have plenty of stress inducers in our lives, and should be trying to reduce the number.  Take a step back and re-evaluate your priorities before this games turns you, too, into an asshat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to agree with Jason&#8217;s statement, though the presentation is a bit inflammatory.</p>
<p>I understand that a person&#8217;s goals in this game can require them to raid in a hardcore fashion, but there is certainly a cost/benefit ratio involved.  If part of the cost of your gear is becoming a different person in it&#8217;s pursuit,  a mean-spirited, inflexible person, I would hope that one would find this an unacceptable cost.</p>
<p>I do not raid in any fashion, because I cannot commit to a regular play schedule (job and grad school commitments have to come first), but I do have in-game goals that make the it seem like work sometimes.  That&#8217;s usually when I take a week or so off, and do something else that I enjoy.  Jason&#8217;s point that this game is intended to be a stress reliever is important, I think.  We all have plenty of stress inducers in our lives, and should be trying to reduce the number.  Take a step back and re-evaluate your priorities before this games turns you, too, into an asshat.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Was the Argent Tournament a Flop? by Tooran</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought was: "... well, I understand the Cenarion Circle and D.E.H.T.A". As an avid animal-rights preserver, I tend to think that this part of the area might just be the one I like the least.

Regarding the fact that we're kind of getting slain. Well, it's comparable to gladiator-fights in the ancient Rome, is it not? Fighting for your life is what people did back then to proove their worth, and it's what we do to proove, that we are able to take down the Lich King. Those not capable will die. It's a risk, really. The Argent Crusade needs the best of the best, and what better way is there to find that out, than to make the trialists fight for their life?

As for the protection of the area. I do find it peculiar that the Black Knight and the Lich King were able to enter the Tournament Grounds without anyone noticing it. Admitted, that is strange. But I don't think the security level is lov. Looking at the tournament grounds, you will find a wast number of guards always on the watch, a great number of champions of The Horde and The Alliance, beasts in all kinds of shapes, not to mention all the Faction Leaders, and Tirion Fordring. I feel safe in that invironment.

So no, I don't think it's been a failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought was: &#8220;&#8230; well, I understand the Cenarion Circle and D.E.H.T.A&#8221;. As an avid animal-rights preserver, I tend to think that this part of the area might just be the one I like the least.</p>
<p>Regarding the fact that we&#8217;re kind of getting slain. Well, it&#8217;s comparable to gladiator-fights in the ancient Rome, is it not? Fighting for your life is what people did back then to proove their worth, and it&#8217;s what we do to proove, that we are able to take down the Lich King. Those not capable will die. It&#8217;s a risk, really. The Argent Crusade needs the best of the best, and what better way is there to find that out, than to make the trialists fight for their life?</p>
<p>As for the protection of the area. I do find it peculiar that the Black Knight and the Lich King were able to enter the Tournament Grounds without anyone noticing it. Admitted, that is strange. But I don&#8217;t think the security level is lov. Looking at the tournament grounds, you will find a wast number of guards always on the watch, a great number of champions of The Horde and The Alliance, beasts in all kinds of shapes, not to mention all the Faction Leaders, and Tirion Fordring. I feel safe in that invironment.</p>
<p>So no, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s been a failure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Papaoomowmow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papaoomowmow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note in counterpoint. At least 90% of my random heroic pug experiences have been good.
Pretty friendly and we got it done.

There is always enough dps in heroics nowadays .Ran a nexus with a couple players (tank and a dps) dishing out well under 800dps apiece. A few extra minutes, but no real problem. (and, because most of us are running em for emblems, it is refreshing to see players getting drops they really need - in most cases for ALTs I assume.

This is a great hunter site. Thank You!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note in counterpoint. At least 90% of my random heroic pug experiences have been good.<br />
Pretty friendly and we got it done.</p>
<p>There is always enough dps in heroics nowadays .Ran a nexus with a couple players (tank and a dps) dishing out well under 800dps apiece. A few extra minutes, but no real problem. (and, because most of us are running em for emblems, it is refreshing to see players getting drops they really need &#8211; in most cases for ALTs I assume.</p>
<p>This is a great hunter site. Thank You!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Was the Argent Tournament a Flop? by Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn't make much since to me story-wise, to be sure, and I had a lot of difficulty trying to squeeze it into my charact'ers RP.  But I'm not complaining too much because I found ToC to be a hundred times more fun than Ulduar was, from a raid-standpoint.

*is apparently the only person who thinks so...* :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t make much since to me story-wise, to be sure, and I had a lot of difficulty trying to squeeze it into my charact&#8217;ers RP.  But I&#8217;m not complaining too much because I found ToC to be a hundred times more fun than Ulduar was, from a raid-standpoint.</p>
<p>*is apparently the only person who thinks so&#8230;* <img src='http://www.thehuntersmark.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Papaoomowmow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papaoomowmow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note.

Again this is a terrific site. Thanks Lassirra!

I  especially got a kick out of your depiction of
a tank's frantic activity

&lt;&gt;

LOL    I can only imagine.

I hope SOMEDAY to be able to be that active AND also far more aware of what others are up to all the while....

I ain't anywhere close to that yet.

On balance, my experiences with the random groups have been good. I know the easy content has plenty to do with that, but still it is usually just fine. Pretty long waits, but fine (I just do a daily or two while waiting).

One thing I do which MAYBE helps a little is drop a fish feast right away, and check classes to see which drums and scroll of fortitude buffs might help and give em. That's mainly just only to slow everyone down  for a half a minute before we start....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note.</p>
<p>Again this is a terrific site. Thanks Lassirra!</p>
<p>I  especially got a kick out of your depiction of<br />
a tank&#8217;s frantic activity</p>
<p>&lt;&gt;</p>
<p>LOL    I can only imagine.</p>
<p>I hope SOMEDAY to be able to be that active AND also far more aware of what others are up to all the while&#8230;.</p>
<p>I ain&#8217;t anywhere close to that yet.</p>
<p>On balance, my experiences with the random groups have been good. I know the easy content has plenty to do with that, but still it is usually just fine. Pretty long waits, but fine (I just do a daily or two while waiting).</p>
<p>One thing I do which MAYBE helps a little is drop a fish feast right away, and check classes to see which drums and scroll of fortitude buffs might help and give em. That&#8217;s mainly just only to slow everyone down  for a half a minute before we start&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by LoveTheSite</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoveTheSite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing if you are going to try and give advice.  Do it nicely don't say ZOMG you need this website really bad or this is how you should have done that - with an inferred dumb ass.  Start by saying something nice and offering advice to give them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing if you are going to try and give advice.  Do it nicely don&#8217;t say ZOMG you need this website really bad or this is how you should have done that &#8211; with an inferred dumb ass.  Start by saying something nice and offering advice to give them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by LoveTheSite</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoveTheSite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you should have atleast pointed them to your website.  I have a rule don't bitch about it if you won't do anything about it.  You do make a tremendous contribution but a nice little note would have been appropriate.  Saying stuff like "stack" is about worthless.  If they didn't know to do it they aren't going to know what stuff like that means.

I am a well geared hunter who does great dps and studies fight strategy.   I read this and other  websites BUT I didn't know about chain heals.  Not everyone played for 4 or 5 years, has friends that play, or was lucky enough to find/get into one of the few actually helpful levelling guilds.

I know this class in and out, but I don't know somoe of the basics or how other classes relate to ours.  The people serious enough about this class to blog have many alts and what not and are take for granted that we undrstand every other class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you should have atleast pointed them to your website.  I have a rule don&#8217;t bitch about it if you won&#8217;t do anything about it.  You do make a tremendous contribution but a nice little note would have been appropriate.  Saying stuff like &#8220;stack&#8221; is about worthless.  If they didn&#8217;t know to do it they aren&#8217;t going to know what stuff like that means.</p>
<p>I am a well geared hunter who does great dps and studies fight strategy.   I read this and other  websites BUT I didn&#8217;t know about chain heals.  Not everyone played for 4 or 5 years, has friends that play, or was lucky enough to find/get into one of the few actually helpful levelling guilds.</p>
<p>I know this class in and out, but I don&#8217;t know somoe of the basics or how other classes relate to ours.  The people serious enough about this class to blog have many alts and what not and are take for granted that we undrstand every other class.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 6 Helpful Hunter Add-Ons to Make Life Easier by Lokitbe</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found MSBT and power auras can let you know when everything is happening. I find MikScrollingbattletext audio notifications invaluable.  Sometimes there is so much going on visually that an audio que is a welcome change.  Why limit are reactions to just hand-eye?. The low mana warnings, low pet health also are nice. Its a reflex to hear the notification and fire off kill shot.  I do ivan Pavlov proud.

The customization is not overly difficult but I am sure most of us are not new to spending time to tweak a mod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found MSBT and power auras can let you know when everything is happening. I find MikScrollingbattletext audio notifications invaluable.  Sometimes there is so much going on visually that an audio que is a welcome change.  Why limit are reactions to just hand-eye?. The low mana warnings, low pet health also are nice. Its a reflex to hear the notification and fire off kill shot.  I do ivan Pavlov proud.</p>
<p>The customization is not overly difficult but I am sure most of us are not new to spending time to tweak a mod.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Lassirra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lassirra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people seem to forget: for some players, PuGs are the only way to get groups for anything. Some players don't have the option of guild runs, which means if they want badges or certain drops, they have to PuG whether they like it or not.

For example, I have two 80s on two different servers. One of my 80s is in a guild that consists of two people. My other 80 is in a fairly small guild that rarely has enough people on at the same time to fill a 5man. My choice of guilds is based on the fact that I've been in large guilds before and rarely enjoyed myself. So I stick to extremely small guilds. However, that means that if I want to do certain things in-game, I have to PuG to do it. There is no other option.

Because I've opted for quiet, drama-free game play, I have given up the luxury of being able to run anything with players I already know. Despite that, I've managed to gear one character sufficiently to be doing ICC 10 on a regular basis (provided I can find a group), and the other isn't too far behind.

My point is, it's all well and good to say "If you don't like PuGs, don't run them", but for some, that option doesn't exist. It comes down to: "Do you hate PuGs more than you want to gear up to experience certain content?" and for many, the answer is no. It's the same reason many people suffer through battlegrounds or Wintergrasp. The experience may be painful, but the ultimate rewards (better gear) make it worth the hassle. That doesn't mean they can't still complain about it in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people seem to forget: for some players, PuGs are the only way to get groups for anything. Some players don&#8217;t have the option of guild runs, which means if they want badges or certain drops, they have to PuG whether they like it or not.</p>
<p>For example, I have two 80s on two different servers. One of my 80s is in a guild that consists of two people. My other 80 is in a fairly small guild that rarely has enough people on at the same time to fill a 5man. My choice of guilds is based on the fact that I&#8217;ve been in large guilds before and rarely enjoyed myself. So I stick to extremely small guilds. However, that means that if I want to do certain things in-game, I have to PuG to do it. There is no other option.</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;ve opted for quiet, drama-free game play, I have given up the luxury of being able to run anything with players I already know. Despite that, I&#8217;ve managed to gear one character sufficiently to be doing ICC 10 on a regular basis (provided I can find a group), and the other isn&#8217;t too far behind.</p>
<p>My point is, it&#8217;s all well and good to say &#8220;If you don&#8217;t like PuGs, don&#8217;t run them&#8221;, but for some, that option doesn&#8217;t exist. It comes down to: &#8220;Do you hate PuGs more than you want to gear up to experience certain content?&#8221; and for many, the answer is no. It&#8217;s the same reason many people suffer through battlegrounds or Wintergrasp. The experience may be painful, but the ultimate rewards (better gear) make it worth the hassle. That doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t still complain about it in the process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Hunter Hall of Fame by Tooran</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/cry

I want my dual-spec naow!
I really want to have a BM off-spec, and since I'm raiding in a guild, I just can get rid of my Sv-spec.
But I want a spirit beast!</description>
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<p>I want my dual-spec naow!<br />
I really want to have a BM off-spec, and since I&#8217;m raiding in a guild, I just can get rid of my Sv-spec.<br />
But I want a spirit beast!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Zakhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zakhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps your expectation isn't unrealistic.  Regardless, you do understand the risk, once you join that pug or click that dungeon finder you know what you may be getting yourself into. Perhaps I'm overreacting but, I'm sooo tired of listening to people in guild chat and vent QQ about the group they are in and then they turn around and do it all over again. I can appreciate the frustration you and others feel but, remember it's your choice to enter into that particular aspect of the game. When you do, you get it, warts and all. If it's intolerable, exercise your right not to join or click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps your expectation isn&#8217;t unrealistic.  Regardless, you do understand the risk, once you join that pug or click that dungeon finder you know what you may be getting yourself into. Perhaps I&#8217;m overreacting but, I&#8217;m sooo tired of listening to people in guild chat and vent QQ about the group they are in and then they turn around and do it all over again. I can appreciate the frustration you and others feel but, remember it&#8217;s your choice to enter into that particular aspect of the game. When you do, you get it, warts and all. If it&#8217;s intolerable, exercise your right not to join or click.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Lassirra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lassirra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never made any assumptions about their state of mind (stupidity vs ignorance). I said they weren't doing what they were supposed to be doing and expressing exasperation about it, though I wasn't surprised by it. 

Furthermore, "if you aren’t willing to teach, correct, and set someone on the right path, don’t complain."? Ummm... what the hell do you think this site is? I'm supposed to spend 20+ hours a week running a site intended to teach players how to play, and then spend all my in-game time doing the same thing as well? Pardon me for wanting my in-game to be exactly that, &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; time. I do my part to contribute to the community, thank you. I don't enjoy having someone tell me that I don't and that I can't complain about whatever I want to complain about. That just spits in the face of all the work I've done on this site over the past three years, and I don't much care for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never made any assumptions about their state of mind (stupidity vs ignorance). I said they weren&#8217;t doing what they were supposed to be doing and expressing exasperation about it, though I wasn&#8217;t surprised by it. </p>
<p>Furthermore, &#8220;if you aren’t willing to teach, correct, and set someone on the right path, don’t complain.&#8221;? Ummm&#8230; what the hell do you think this site is? I&#8217;m supposed to spend 20+ hours a week running a site intended to teach players how to play, and then spend all my in-game time doing the same thing as well? Pardon me for wanting my in-game to be exactly that, <em>my</em> time. I do my part to contribute to the community, thank you. I don&#8217;t enjoy having someone tell me that I don&#8217;t and that I can&#8217;t complain about whatever I want to complain about. That just spits in the face of all the work I&#8217;ve done on this site over the past three years, and I don&#8217;t much care for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Ellifain @ Khaz'Goroth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellifain @ Khaz'Goroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i do random heroics on my Alt Hunter im constantly suprised how bad other people are.
My alt isnt terribly greatly geared.
Most of her gear is i232 or tier9.0, or the easy to aquire frost gear - cloak, belt and ICC rep ring.

Yet with this gear i can put out a respectable 4k dps on most bosses - as a minimum.
Peak dps 6.5k on a boss like trollgore/patchwork.

Yet in 4 outta 5 pug runs im all alone at the top of the dps charts, often doing in excess of 40% of total damage.

I heard somewhere that the LFG tool always tries to include someone with low gearing to balance things out.  But not 2 or 3 of them!

For me there are only 2 motivations for doing random heroics in the first place:

1. To get my frost badges
and
2. To improve my dps, situational awareness, and skill as a hunter.

I wonder what the fail DPS priorities are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When i do random heroics on my Alt Hunter im constantly suprised how bad other people are.<br />
My alt isnt terribly greatly geared.<br />
Most of her gear is i232 or tier9.0, or the easy to aquire frost gear &#8211; cloak, belt and ICC rep ring.</p>
<p>Yet with this gear i can put out a respectable 4k dps on most bosses &#8211; as a minimum.<br />
Peak dps 6.5k on a boss like trollgore/patchwork.</p>
<p>Yet in 4 outta 5 pug runs im all alone at the top of the dps charts, often doing in excess of 40% of total damage.</p>
<p>I heard somewhere that the LFG tool always tries to include someone with low gearing to balance things out.  But not 2 or 3 of them!</p>
<p>For me there are only 2 motivations for doing random heroics in the first place:</p>
<p>1. To get my frost badges<br />
and<br />
2. To improve my dps, situational awareness, and skill as a hunter.</p>
<p>I wonder what the fail DPS priorities are?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Lassirra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lassirra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have high or medium expectations from PuGs. I have an expectation that people will understand the very basics of the game. I don't think that's asking so very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have high or medium expectations from PuGs. I have an expectation that people will understand the very basics of the game. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s asking so very much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Zakhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zakhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry, if you want to have medium to high expectations of the people you run with, stick to guild runs or build a pug with people you know. The one constant in running pugs or randoms is that you don't know what you are going to get. You know going in that you may get some doofus in any role within the party. If that potential really bugs you, think twice about clicking that Dungeon Finder. In your guild, you have the right to have those expectations. Don't complain when you "knowingly" enter into an environment where you might find a doofus/noob/jerk, and actually end up with one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, if you want to have medium to high expectations of the people you run with, stick to guild runs or build a pug with people you know. The one constant in running pugs or randoms is that you don&#8217;t know what you are going to get. You know going in that you may get some doofus in any role within the party. If that potential really bugs you, think twice about clicking that Dungeon Finder. In your guild, you have the right to have those expectations. Don&#8217;t complain when you &#8220;knowingly&#8221; enter into an environment where you might find a doofus/noob/jerk, and actually end up with one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Hunter Hall of Fame by aoirselvar</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I should get off my butt and try to tame one of them beasts. It can be difficult if you're very casual, but not impossible from what I've read and seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I should get off my butt and try to tame one of them beasts. It can be difficult if you&#8217;re very casual, but not impossible from what I&#8217;ve read and seen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tale of Three Hunters by Novathena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novathena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, sorry, i was really tired when i read it, and posted something.  I think what i meant to say, before i got carried away with explaining what should have happened was that nothing there was perfect...you judged all three hunters to all be idiots.  Perhaps just one of them was stupid, and the other two were ignorant, following the stupid guy.  One-sided wasn't really what i meant.  Just a little too judgmental... if you aren't willing to teach, correct, and set someone on the right path, don't complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sorry, i was really tired when i read it, and posted something.  I think what i meant to say, before i got carried away with explaining what should have happened was that nothing there was perfect&#8230;you judged all three hunters to all be idiots.  Perhaps just one of them was stupid, and the other two were ignorant, following the stupid guy.  One-sided wasn&#8217;t really what i meant.  Just a little too judgmental&#8230; if you aren&#8217;t willing to teach, correct, and set someone on the right path, don&#8217;t complain.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Lassirra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that it's a basic assumption that PuG players will be horrible (not all, but certainly a good portion of them), while probably true, is just sad.

Just because you're playing with people you don't know and will probably never see again does not mean you have free license to be a terrible player. The fact that this is accepted as "just how things are" rather than rallied against is pathetic. (Which is compounded by the fact that apparently it's everyone else's job to educate these slobs, rather than making them take responsibility for their own ignorance. But that's a whole different gripe.)

It is conceivable that a level 80 player may not have a clue how to play their class. This is especially true for Hunters, as we're an extremely easy class to level. Combine that with Heirloom items, Recruit-A-Friend, and the fastest leveling process to date, and it's no wonder people get to 80 and still have no idea what they're doing. Frankly, it's fine not to know what you're doing at 80. The problem comes in when you attempt to start playing with others.

It &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be common sense that if you don't know how the hell to play your character, you should not be attempting to play it in a group environment. (Let alone heroics or raids.) It's a recipe for disaster, and you're knowingly setting up complete strangers for a miserable experience. That's just plain rude. Learn how to play your character first, and &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; look for groups to join. If you don't want to learn, fine. Just don't subject other people to your inadequacies.

It's very easy to learn enough about each class to not be a hindrance to groups. The basics are exactly that: basic. And yet, it's amazing how many people are completely ignorant of them. (Apparently most people have never heard of Google.) There's no excuse at this point for not knowing them. Just spending time in-game watching General or Trade chat will likely alert you to a few good resources.

People seem to be able to find WoWHead and add-ons sites just fine, but can't be bothered to learn the basics of their class before hopping into the Dungeon Finder, and I'm sick of it. If you're too lazy to learn about your class, fine. Just don't make my game-play experience miserable in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that it&#8217;s a basic assumption that PuG players will be horrible (not all, but certainly a good portion of them), while probably true, is just sad.</p>
<p>Just because you&#8217;re playing with people you don&#8217;t know and will probably never see again does not mean you have free license to be a terrible player. The fact that this is accepted as &#8220;just how things are&#8221; rather than rallied against is pathetic. (Which is compounded by the fact that apparently it&#8217;s everyone else&#8217;s job to educate these slobs, rather than making them take responsibility for their own ignorance. But that&#8217;s a whole different gripe.)</p>
<p>It is conceivable that a level 80 player may not have a clue how to play their class. This is especially true for Hunters, as we&#8217;re an extremely easy class to level. Combine that with Heirloom items, Recruit-A-Friend, and the fastest leveling process to date, and it&#8217;s no wonder people get to 80 and still have no idea what they&#8217;re doing. Frankly, it&#8217;s fine not to know what you&#8217;re doing at 80. The problem comes in when you attempt to start playing with others.</p>
<p>It <em>should</em> be common sense that if you don&#8217;t know how the hell to play your character, you should not be attempting to play it in a group environment. (Let alone heroics or raids.) It&#8217;s a recipe for disaster, and you&#8217;re knowingly setting up complete strangers for a miserable experience. That&#8217;s just plain rude. Learn how to play your character first, and <em>then</em> look for groups to join. If you don&#8217;t want to learn, fine. Just don&#8217;t subject other people to your inadequacies.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very easy to learn enough about each class to not be a hindrance to groups. The basics are exactly that: basic. And yet, it&#8217;s amazing how many people are completely ignorant of them. (Apparently most people have never heard of Google.) There&#8217;s no excuse at this point for not knowing them. Just spending time in-game watching General or Trade chat will likely alert you to a few good resources.</p>
<p>People seem to be able to find WoWHead and add-ons sites just fine, but can&#8217;t be bothered to learn the basics of their class before hopping into the Dungeon Finder, and I&#8217;m sick of it. If you&#8217;re too lazy to learn about your class, fine. Just don&#8217;t make my game-play experience miserable in the process.</p>
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