(Not hating on thin ladies. You’re gorgeous. Just wanted to slap BadMouth for saying that. I have more faith in Miracle’s ability to beat somebody than Dichen’s… her arms would break off!).

HAHAHA

That’s awesome.

Always good to read your comments – I don’t necessarily agree with some of them (in fact I think we’re about to set a new record with this one ) but it’s great to have your perspective on things.

Once I’ve watched the finale (shame on me, I haven’t seen it yet) I hope to go back over a few of the points you raised.

This ain’t Shakespeare boys. Geeish.

Echo is a high price hooker MOST of the time.
Some naked pics are very appropriate.

Someone in the show even said she bedded most of the city.
Duh!!! The sex thing is (was should get back to it) a major them of the show. A few sexy pictures were LACKING.

The main problem was time, for season two. So much of this show would have had such a large impact if they’d had more episodes to develop it. I’ll start with “Stop-Loss”:

1) They needed to show Tony’s conflict longer. Him jumping right back into Scytheon was somewhat hollow because he was only free of the Dollhouse for what? Two days?

2) I love Echo, especially now that she’s her own person. I accept that you don’t. But the cool thing about her not hurting anyone with this is that it wasn’t her superpowers so much as the Dollhouse’s: she has about 50 people in her right now, and the force of all of those minds overcoming the programming of the computer chips, I thought, was cool in a *very* sci fi sort of way.

“The Attic”:

1) Lawrence Dominic wasn’t as much of a stretch, I felt. He was doing everything he could to protect himself in season one, and by protecting himself, he was protecting everyone. You remember that Daniel Perrin is being groomed to be the President; he wanted to prevent Rossum getting that much power. And he was right, too, to warn DeWitt that one day Echo would be erasing all of *them*.

2) There are twenty-two Dollhouses worldwide, counting the one that just started in Dubai. If, say, you’ve got broken dolls, enemies like Ballard, spies like Dominic, and information you don’t want exposed like the Japanese man, you’ve got the potential for quite a lot of people for Clyde to kill.

3) The surrealism was lovely in this episode. Just FYI, it was directed by a comic book artist. And, yes, the montage was cool.

4) DeWitt: Now, this I saw coming. The thing with DeWitt is that she’s self-deluding. If you’ve seen the VASTLY superior unaired pilot, “Echo,” you’ll hear all of her self-justifications. Throughout season one and part of season two, she truly, deeply believed in what she felt was her mission, to give people what they needed. She was also very prideful. Her fall began when “Belonging” introduced her to who she was really working for, and began to break her illusions. She is not a good person by any stretch, but all of her badness has been shattered and thrown in her face to slice her open over the course of this season. The scene in the showers was her wiping herself clean. She had two choices: go bad, and go really bad, or confront what a bitch she’d been (pardon my French) and fix the situation. Also, they had a Scooby Gang, albeit briefly. Go team Whedon.

“Getting Closer”:

1) Caroline is *not* a good person. You’ll remember what DeWitt said: Caroline isn’t evil, she’s *worse* — an idealist. Now, Caroline may have saved her friend, but do you think she really felt bad about Bennett? She used her willingly and knowingly. Caroline is a bitch, really she is. She may have good intentions, but that’s what paves the road to hell. They never really redeemed her, and I thought that was an interesting twist: Echo took all of Caroline’s good stuff — wanting to save everyone, etc, and went beyond that to become a true hero.

2) The shock. Oh, the shock. The visceral impact of Bennett’s blood driving Topher bonkers (or starting to) was so very Whedon.

3) Yes, everyone knew where the Paul thing was going.

“The Hollow Men”:

Here’s where I disagree with you. I didn’t think the motives were hard to figure at all, so I’ll tell you what I think.

Boyd is evil. He’s the unassuming kind of evil, the kind that looks at a situation and sees how to benefit from it. He knew that the tech couldn’t be uncreated, so he figured out how to use it to come out on top. Then, here comes Caroline. Her spinal fluid contains a gene marker that can resist the tech. With testing, he realizes that when she’s wiped, the gene’s expression grows stronger. But she won’t fight the imprints if not placed under stress. So he sends her to the LA Dollhouse, where he knows Topher Brink is, and goes to keep an eye on her, using the handler bond to keep her loyal to him.

There, he guides DeWitt where he wants her, and Topher where he wants him, all the time watching Echo become, well, Echo. He also uses the handler bond to keep himself in her trust, like when she tries to find the spy in the Dollhouse. This also makes episodes like “The Target” really creepy in retrospect. So, once she’s strong enough, he guides her through finalizing herself, so to speak, and begins the beginning of the end.

I thought “The Hollow Men” was fantastic. Sure, it was rushed, but still.

2) The Mellie/Paul thing actually made sense, sadly. They were both dolls, and both aware of that. They really at that point only had each other to cling to, and Paul still loved the idea of Mellie, I suppose. Also, Whedon can’t resist echoing the Dark Phoenix Saga in all of his works at some point, and thus Mellie must kill herself.

3) The acting was amazing, even from Eliza Dushku. The end, where Boyd was wiped, was heartwrenching to watch. Also, how evil was Harry Lennix? It was fun how he revealed himself to each individual at a time. I also thought it would give you a laugh how much he didn’t want Ballard around.

4) Faith and Fred duked it out. Hah!

5) The Echo running from explosion shot was horrible and cheesy.

6) Budget. They didn’t have enough money to blow the building, which was pretty unrealistic, but the idea did the job.

I’m glad that you seemed to enjoy the end of “Dollhouse” for the entertainment value, at least. Those were my thoughts, so, there they were.

1) I see your point Phoenix. I just think the ‘convenience’ of the prison-break was part of the problem. But thanks for giving me some extra context. I still find it bad, but not quite as bad.

2) Fair enough – I must have missed that. I do find it a bit convenient that she just happened to remember his or the DH’s number though.

4) I’ll give him that – he refused to act on those instincts. I wish I saw him through your eyes. I just can’t see him as a ‘good guy’ at this point.

7) Cool, looking forward to it!

Thanks for your thoughts – always interesting and insightful!