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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by bigkev</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigkev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of stuff also that goes in the bins around the country must be huge and in dollar value aswell, in my case when they (doc &amp; his nurse) were trying to make me give up smoking haha, 1st was the patches i got 8 boxes with however many patches in i used the 1st box was covered in patch size welts all over the place - 7 boxes went in the bin. Next came the gum same deal 8 boxes with 2 trays in,1 peice - this shit is the most revolting stuff man ever made - 7.99 boxes in the bin, and then they decided lozenges would be the go for me, another 8 boxes same as before they tasted ok (just) but they are slimey for reasons unknowen - and i just dont do slimey in the mouth - 7 boxes in the bin. I said to the chemist each time, gimmie 1 box to try but she was noop this is how it is each time thats the law, i even tryed giving the the 7.99 boxes of gum back - nop carnt do that i may have tampered with them. i did find a good gum tho in the supermarkets "nicorette" its got nice flavour/s veries from $7  $12 for 1 tray of 12 gums. end of the day whats this stuff worth i chucked 21 boxes in the bin for all i know i might have put a grands worth of stuff in the wheelie bin and there will be thousands just like me surely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of stuff also that goes in the bins around the country must be huge and in dollar value aswell, in my case when they (doc &amp; his nurse) were trying to make me give up smoking haha, 1st was the patches i got 8 boxes with however many patches in i used the 1st box was covered in patch size welts all over the place — 7 boxes went in the bin. Next came the gum same deal 8 boxes with 2 trays in,1 peice — this shit is the most revolting stuff man ever made — 7.99 boxes in the bin, and then they decided lozenges would be the go for me, another 8 boxes same as before they tasted ok (just) but they are slimey for reasons unknowen — and i just dont do slimey in the mouth — 7 boxes in the bin. I said to the chemist each time, gimmie 1 box to try but she was noop this is how it is each time thats the law, i even tryed giving the the 7.99 boxes of gum back — nop carnt do that i may have tampered with them. i did find a good gum tho in the supermarkets “nicorette” its got nice flavour/s veries from $7  $12 for 1 tray of 12 gums. end of the day whats this stuff worth i chucked 21 boxes in the bin for all i know i might have put a grands worth of stuff in the wheelie bin and there will be thousands just like me surely</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by grizz</title>
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		<dc:creator>grizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>technically though, you do have an interest in this industry, being the Quit Now programme. As a non 7th-day adventist, I could look at this as you trying to convince the select committee to give money to your church.

The reality is that there are multiple ways to quit smoking and what works depends on the individual concerned. Tobacco kills all races and does not care who smokes it. I would prefer it if only one all inclusive group were funded as a quit smoking advocacy organisation. 

I know in the Emergency Department where I work we offer a first line intervention to smokers offering them information and help to get them in touch with advocates from quitline as well as a prescription for nicotine patches and gum. It will be interesting to study this to see how effective it is.

My vested interest is purely medical in minimising risks for heart disease, stroke and a plethora of cancers. I also have concerns about young women in particular smoking for pregnancy related reasons as smoking increases pregnancy complications, low birthweight and premature babies. It also leads to increased respiratory disease in infants. While you might say I am troughing as I am lazy and want to work less, but I do not think it is fair that a child should have to suffer if their parents choose to smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>technically though, you do have an interest in this industry, being the Quit Now programme. As a non 7th-day adventist, I could look at this as you trying to convince the select committee to give money to your church.</p>
<p>The reality is that there are multiple ways to quit smoking and what works depends on the individual concerned. Tobacco kills all races and does not care who smokes it. I would prefer it if only one all inclusive group were funded as a quit smoking advocacy organisation. </p>
<p>I know in the Emergency Department where I work we offer a first line intervention to smokers offering them information and help to get them in touch with advocates from quitline as well as a prescription for nicotine patches and gum. It will be interesting to study this to see how effective it is.</p>
<p>My vested interest is purely medical in minimising risks for heart disease, stroke and a plethora of cancers. I also have concerns about young women in particular smoking for pregnancy related reasons as smoking increases pregnancy complications, low birthweight and premature babies. It also leads to increased respiratory disease in infants. While you might say I am troughing as I am lazy and want to work less, but I do not think it is fair that a child should have to suffer if their parents choose to smoke.</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by rongowaiata</title>
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		<dc:creator>rongowaiata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frightening stuff.  When they come close to give THE LOOK from behind thats the end. You did well to get the extra time.  One thing is clear - the purpose is not to stop Maori smoking, its to screw the system. I think that kī tōnu taku waka topaki i te tuna - and they are all wriggling still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frightening stuff.  When they come close to give THE LOOK from behind thats the end. You did well to get the extra time.  One thing is clear — the purpose is not to stop Maori smoking, its to screw the system. I think that kī tōnu taku waka topaki i te tuna — and they are all wriggling still.</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by grizz</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should make a T-Shirt with Bradbrooke's face with the pig's snout so everytime you comment on this issue over the media you can make your point stick out more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should make a T-Shirt with Bradbrooke’s face with the pig’s snout so everytime you comment on this issue over the media you can make your point stick out more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by burtonsballs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoting Hawkeye..."This is your best work that I can remem­ber WO"

F'n Oath....keep it up from a concerned smoker/voter/taxpayer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting Hawkeye…“This is your best work that I can remem­ber WO”</p>
<p>F’n Oath.…keep it up from a concerned smoker/voter/taxpayer</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by burtonsballs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WO the whole problem with NZ is (IMHO) Eugenics. Its why (the) Maori are so downtrodden(forgetting my son my daughter and my partner, my cousins where do I stop...btw i am a NZ European to those who dont know me). Only complete subjugation of the Pakeha can stop it! 

You should not EVER be allowed to submit anything anywhere, please stay at home the cleansing squad knows where you live and will be right with you, and will be happy to cleanse your impure thoughts.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WO the whole problem with NZ is (IMHO) Eugenics. Its why (the) Maori are so downtrodden(forgetting my son my daughter and my partner, my cousins where do I stop…btw i am a NZ European to those who dont know me). Only complete subjugation of the Pakeha can stop it! </p>
<p>You should not EVER be allowed to submit anything anywhere, please stay at home the cleansing squad knows where you live and will be right with you, and will be happy to cleanse your impure thoughts.….</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by hawkeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawkeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is your best work that I can remember WO, better than the name suppression campaign even. Digging up all the statistics/conflicts of interest was key and it's amazing that our woeful paid media did not do this already.

Also it sounds like you were treated disgracefully by the Select Committee, it's a shame the Left like to silence speech that they disagree with. Funnily enough what you brought up wasn't a left vs right issue, it was a waste issue. Everyone hates waste. But Turei is a true waste of space, one of our worst MPs, with no class whatsoever, so she can't be expected to know any better.

My only complaint about your report is that you could have made it more concise and to-the-point if you had resisted the temptation to bring up Climategate etc, these sideshows distracted from your main points and would provide something for Left-wingers to seize on and use to change the subject.

Anyway I hope this whole story, and the way the Select Committee report was handled, gets some public coverage. Keep fighting the good fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>This is your best work that I can remember WO, better than the name suppression campaign even. Digging up all the statistics/conflicts of interest was key and it’s amazing that our woeful paid media did not do this already.</p>
<p>Also it sounds like you were treated disgracefully by the Select Committee, it’s a shame the Left like to silence speech that they disagree with. Funnily enough what you brought up wasn’t a left vs right issue, it was a waste issue. Everyone hates waste. But Turei is a true waste of space, one of our worst MPs, with no class whatsoever, so she can’t be expected to know any better.</p>
<p>My only complaint about your report is that you could have made it more concise and to-the-point if you had resisted the temptation to bring up Climategate etc, these sideshows distracted from your main points and would provide something for Left-wingers to seize on and use to change the subject.</p>
<p>Anyway I hope this whole story, and the way the Select Committee report was handled, gets some public coverage. Keep fighting the good fight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by burtonsballs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh before we all get angry about LSD I meant Listening (to) Shit Disorder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh before we all get angry about LSD I meant Listening (to) Shit Disorder</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by burtonsballs</title>
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		<dc:creator>burtonsballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the Maori party we should all be made to quit, 90% of us (while affected by LSD) said we wanted to quit....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Maori party we should all be made to quit, 90% of us (while affected by LSD) said we wanted to quit.…</p>
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		<title>Comment on They don’t like it up ‘em by adybombs</title>
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		<dc:creator>adybombs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Send them a bill for wasting your time.  I can't believe they asked you to appear, knowing what your angle was and then cut you short.  Why did they even bother, so they claim they listen to all points of view?  
Looks to me like they are going to hand out more pigswill to Bradbrook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send them a bill for wasting your time.  I can’t believe they asked you to appear, knowing what your angle was and then cut you short.  Why did they even bother, so they claim they listen to all points of view?<br />
Looks to me like they are going to hand out more pigswill to Bradbrook</p>
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