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	<description>Thoughts and stories from a vegan-turned-hunter</description>
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		<title>Comment on Westward bound by Tovar</title>
		<link>http://www.tovarcerulli.com/2012/05/westward-bound/#comment-5015</link>
		<dc:creator>Tovar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 23:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, Ian!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Westward bound by ian</title>
		<link>http://www.tovarcerulli.com/2012/05/westward-bound/#comment-5014</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 20:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hope to catch you in Berkeley! 

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hope to catch you in Berkeley! </p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Westward bound by Tovar</title>
		<link>http://www.tovarcerulli.com/2012/05/westward-bound/#comment-5013</link>
		<dc:creator>Tovar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 17:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jason! I tried too line up something at Powell's for this trip, but they were booked. Maybe another time... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jason! I tried too line up something at Powell&#8217;s for this trip, but they were booked. Maybe another time&#8230; <img src='http://www.tovarcerulli.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Westward bound by Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 19:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try to make it out to Portland some time! Do a talk at Powells.  Food issues are a huge deal around here and I know people would eat this up!</description>
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		<title>Comment on “Natural causes”: Life and death, food and fantasy by neil</title>
		<link>http://www.tovarcerulli.com/2012/04/natural-causes-life-and-death-food-and-fantasy/#comment-5010</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 05:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tovar,

That would be cool. I have a meeting that might make it tight to go to the book signing, but I'll try. How many days will you be around?

Feel free to email me offline to set something up.

Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tovar,</p>
<p>That would be cool. I have a meeting that might make it tight to go to the book signing, but I&#8217;ll try. How many days will you be around?</p>
<p>Feel free to email me offline to set something up.</p>
<p>Neil</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Natural causes”: Life and death, food and fantasy by Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.tovarcerulli.com/2012/04/natural-causes-life-and-death-food-and-fantasy/#comment-5009</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 05:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, admittedly this was posted before, but for some reason way up in the thread. 

The discussion of who pays for what and hunters and fisherman vs. other types of appreciation is an interesting one. I do think that other wilderness goods should be taxed, particularly since a good deal of hunting takes place on private land, whereas almost all camping does not.

But mostly I wanted to point out that in regards to the 80 million vs 16 million number there are a couple of things to keep in mind. First, to hunt one must usually be more engaged than to count as a “wildlife watcher”, which could consist of almost anything for the purposes of a survey. Secondly, the overlap is considerable. There seems to be an assumption that the two are diametrically opposed. I car camp, backpack, gather plants, nature watch, and hunt. I use both BLM and Parks. I actually don’t hunt on Government land much. I, and many others are probably in both groups. I would also say that many wilderness users are positive and an even greater number neutral about hunting. So it’s hardly a black or white, this or that, issue. If anything I would say perceptions of hunting are on the upswing, and that’s in my famously liberal city of San Francisco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, admittedly this was posted before, but for some reason way up in the thread. </p>
<p>The discussion of who pays for what and hunters and fisherman vs. other types of appreciation is an interesting one. I do think that other wilderness goods should be taxed, particularly since a good deal of hunting takes place on private land, whereas almost all camping does not.</p>
<p>But mostly I wanted to point out that in regards to the 80 million vs 16 million number there are a couple of things to keep in mind. First, to hunt one must usually be more engaged than to count as a “wildlife watcher”, which could consist of almost anything for the purposes of a survey. Secondly, the overlap is considerable. There seems to be an assumption that the two are diametrically opposed. I car camp, backpack, gather plants, nature watch, and hunt. I use both BLM and Parks. I actually don’t hunt on Government land much. I, and many others are probably in both groups. I would also say that many wilderness users are positive and an even greater number neutral about hunting. So it’s hardly a black or white, this or that, issue. If anything I would say perceptions of hunting are on the upswing, and that’s in my famously liberal city of San Francisco.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Natural causes”: Life and death, food and fantasy by Tovar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tovar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 22:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, Neil: Any chance of meeting you in SF next week?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, Neil: Any chance of meeting you in SF next week?</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Natural causes”: Life and death, food and fantasy by Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 21:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion of who pays for what and hunters and fisherman vs. other types of appreciation is an interesting one. I do think that other wilderness goods should be taxed, particularly since a good deal of hunting takes place on private land, whereas almost all camping does not. 

But mostly I wanted to point out that in regards to the 80 million vs 16 million number there are a couple of things to keep in mind. First, to hunt one must usually be more engaged than to count as a "wildlife watcher", which could consist of almost anything for the purposes of a survey. Secondly, the overlap is considerable. There seems to be an assumption that the two are diametrically opposed. I car camp, backpack, gather plants, nature watch, and hunt. I use both BLM and Parks. I actually don't hunt on Government land much. I, and many others are probably in both groups.  I would also say that many wilderness users are positive and an even greater number neutral about hunting. So it's hardly a black or white, this or that, issue. If anything I would say perceptions of hunting are on the upswing, and that's in my famously liberal city of San Francisco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion of who pays for what and hunters and fisherman vs. other types of appreciation is an interesting one. I do think that other wilderness goods should be taxed, particularly since a good deal of hunting takes place on private land, whereas almost all camping does not. </p>
<p>But mostly I wanted to point out that in regards to the 80 million vs 16 million number there are a couple of things to keep in mind. First, to hunt one must usually be more engaged than to count as a &#8220;wildlife watcher&#8221;, which could consist of almost anything for the purposes of a survey. Secondly, the overlap is considerable. There seems to be an assumption that the two are diametrically opposed. I car camp, backpack, gather plants, nature watch, and hunt. I use both BLM and Parks. I actually don&#8217;t hunt on Government land much. I, and many others are probably in both groups.  I would also say that many wilderness users are positive and an even greater number neutral about hunting. So it&#8217;s hardly a black or white, this or that, issue. If anything I would say perceptions of hunting are on the upswing, and that&#8217;s in my famously liberal city of San Francisco.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Natural causes”: Life and death, food and fantasy by Tovar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tovar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 20:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingrid wrote: "One great example, though is Ohio’s Wildlife Legacy Stamp." By that you mean Ohio's stamp program is working well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingrid wrote: &#8220;One great example, though is Ohio’s Wildlife Legacy Stamp.&#8221; By that you mean Ohio&#8217;s stamp program is working well?</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Natural causes”: Life and death, food and fantasy by ingrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>ingrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 20:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's true, Tovar. But if you read the mission statements in some of thse cases, priority usage is still given to hunters and anglers, irrespective of their minority numbers (approx 14 million hunters versus 80 million wildlife watchers who use the same lands). Issues favoring hunting (game animal management, for instance) still prevail when it comes to land-use in so many cases. A number of photographers and birders do not buy Duck Stamps or have stopped buying Duck Stamps for this reason. The funds are effectively pooled regardless of who purchased the stamp, and when issues come to the table, refuges invariably give more up to hunting interests and preserving hunted species because the "Duck Stamp" is considered hunting revenue. Of course, it's not mentioned much that this revenue funds just 3 percent of land purchases, and that refuges operate out of a public budget allocation. That's just one example. One great example, though is Ohio's Wildlife Legacy Stamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true, Tovar. But if you read the mission statements in some of thse cases, priority usage is still given to hunters and anglers, irrespective of their minority numbers (approx 14 million hunters versus 80 million wildlife watchers who use the same lands). Issues favoring hunting (game animal management, for instance) still prevail when it comes to land-use in so many cases. A number of photographers and birders do not buy Duck Stamps or have stopped buying Duck Stamps for this reason. The funds are effectively pooled regardless of who purchased the stamp, and when issues come to the table, refuges invariably give more up to hunting interests and preserving hunted species because the &#8220;Duck Stamp&#8221; is considered hunting revenue. Of course, it&#8217;s not mentioned much that this revenue funds just 3 percent of land purchases, and that refuges operate out of a public budget allocation. That&#8217;s just one example. One great example, though is Ohio&#8217;s Wildlife Legacy Stamp.</p>
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