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		<title>Comment on SBG Express: I’ve got a ticket to ride by My SBG Start « Non-Inertial Teaching</title>
		<link>http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2010/sbg-express-ive-got-a-ticket-to-ride/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>My SBG Start « Non-Inertial Teaching</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] of last year and most of the summer reading about standards based grading, I decided to jump on the SBG express. Like a travelin’ hobo with my bindle full of dreams of meaningful grades, I found a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of last year and most of the summer reading about standards based grading, I decided to jump on the SBG express. Like a travelin&#8217; hobo with my bindle full of dreams of meaningful grades, I found a [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on SBG Express: Details by Eric Juli</title>
		<link>http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2010/sbg-express-details/#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Juli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

Here's a couple of ideas to consider as you frame your Standards Based Grading thinking.
-Check out some research or articles by Dylan Wiliam and Paul Black about Formative Assessment ad Grading Practices. In Assessment For Learning and some of their other work, they point out research that shows once students receive a grade on any assignment, they essentially ignore the feedback. If that grade is passing the student is done, regardless of whether or not they have met the standard or not.
-Do you need to grade every standard discretely? What does grading each standard separately mean for students? For example, if you took your car into the shop to be repaired, and when you returned to pick it up, the mechanic said "The transmission is set, but the brakes still only work most of the time. I'd give the brakes a B." Would you accept the car as repaired? Students have either met the standard, or they haven't yet. It's been my experience, and Wiliam and Black tend to support this, once you as the teacher give the B to the student, it's like taking the car, there's no reason to revisit it, despite the fact that the standard hasn't been met. Not giving the grade at all is what makes the student revise and work towards meeting the standard.
-Lastly,I know you're writing only about grading here, but  a key component of any standards based system is the performance. Grading standards separately makes it difficult to really know what students have learned. For example, I'm a tennis player. My second serve is weak, and my backhand is much better than my forehand. If you assess each component of my game discretely, you would say those two discrete skills are weak. However, if you assess me in a match, I can still compete successfully despite those two relative weaknesses. Looking at the standards discretely doesn't tell the whole story about whether or not I can apply the standards in a real-world scenario.

I hope this thinking helps you a little as you apply your ideas to your classes. As an aside, I'm a graduate of Waterford High School, and spent some time at Fitch a long time ago. I enjoy reading your blog.

Thanks,
Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a couple of ideas to consider as you frame your Standards Based Grading thinking.<br />
-Check out some research or articles by Dylan Wiliam and Paul Black about Formative Assessment ad Grading Practices. In Assessment For Learning and some of their other work, they point out research that shows once students receive a grade on any assignment, they essentially ignore the feedback. If that grade is passing the student is done, regardless of whether or not they have met the standard or not.<br />
-Do you need to grade every standard discretely? What does grading each standard separately mean for students? For example, if you took your car into the shop to be repaired, and when you returned to pick it up, the mechanic said &#8220;The transmission is set, but the brakes still only work most of the time. I&#8217;d give the brakes a B.&#8221; Would you accept the car as repaired? Students have either met the standard, or they haven&#8217;t yet. It&#8217;s been my experience, and Wiliam and Black tend to support this, once you as the teacher give the B to the student, it&#8217;s like taking the car, there&#8217;s no reason to revisit it, despite the fact that the standard hasn&#8217;t been met. Not giving the grade at all is what makes the student revise and work towards meeting the standard.<br />
-Lastly,I know you&#8217;re writing only about grading here, but  a key component of any standards based system is the performance. Grading standards separately makes it difficult to really know what students have learned. For example, I&#8217;m a tennis player. My second serve is weak, and my backhand is much better than my forehand. If you assess each component of my game discretely, you would say those two discrete skills are weak. However, if you assess me in a match, I can still compete successfully despite those two relative weaknesses. Looking at the standards discretely doesn&#8217;t tell the whole story about whether or not I can apply the standards in a real-world scenario.</p>
<p>I hope this thinking helps you a little as you apply your ideas to your classes. As an aside, I&#8217;m a graduate of Waterford High School, and spent some time at Fitch a long time ago. I enjoy reading your blog.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Eric</p>
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		<title>Comment on Help a teacher out- Video shoutouts by Francisco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Hurricane Earl isn't that bad. I could be wrong?</description>
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		<title>Comment on SBG Express: I’ve got a ticket to ride by Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2010/sbg-express-ive-got-a-ticket-to-ride/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;strong&gt;Kate Nowak&lt;/strong&gt;: (re: planning) I totally agree. I just get a strong, "I'm going to do this" feeling, then figure the rest out. ;-)  As for explaining the whole thing, I'm only planning on giving students/parents a brief overview of the SBG policy at the beginning, mostly just to put them on notice that grading will be different than what they're used to. I'm sure the realization of what it actually means won't set in until those first assessments get assessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>Kate Nowak</strong>: (re: planning) I totally agree. I just get a strong, &#8220;I&#8217;m going to do this&#8221; feeling, then figure the rest out. <img src='http://blog.benwildeboer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   As for explaining the whole thing, I&#8217;m only planning on giving students/parents a brief overview of the SBG policy at the beginning, mostly just to put them on notice that grading will be different than what they&#8217;re used to. I&#8217;m sure the realization of what it actually means won&#8217;t set in until those first assessments get assessed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SBG Express: I’ve got a ticket to ride by Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2010/sbg-express-ive-got-a-ticket-to-ride/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;strong&gt;MsGajda&lt;/strong&gt;: Thanks for that link to your parent letter. Writing one of those is on my to-do list for today. I'll be sure to throw my own up on the blog once I get it all sorted out.

@&lt;strong&gt;Shawn Cornally&lt;/strong&gt;: Props. I'm quite sure it was your 7-part SBG series that helped me find the SBG Express platform (#9 3/4, right?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>MsGajda</strong>: Thanks for that link to your parent letter. Writing one of those is on my to-do list for today. I&#8217;ll be sure to throw my own up on the blog once I get it all sorted out.</p>
<p>@<strong>Shawn Cornally</strong>: Props. I&#8217;m quite sure it was your 7-part SBG series that helped me find the SBG Express platform (#9 3/4, right?).</p>
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		<title>Comment on SBG Express: I’ve got a ticket to ride by Kate Nowak</title>
		<link>http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2010/sbg-express-ive-got-a-ticket-to-ride/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Nowak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it weren't for jumping in without all the details planned, I would never do anything! Seriously, I'd sit in a dark room all day. 

You don't really have to explain yourself to parents/students until you hand back the first quiz. Whatever you say before then will go over most people's heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it weren&#8217;t for jumping in without all the details planned, I would never do anything! Seriously, I&#8217;d sit in a dark room all day. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t really have to explain yourself to parents/students until you hand back the first quiz. Whatever you say before then will go over most people&#8217;s heads.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SBG Express: I’ve got a ticket to ride by Shawn Cornally</title>
		<link>http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2010/sbg-express-ive-got-a-ticket-to-ride/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Cornally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toot! Toot! All Aboard!</description>
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		<title>Comment on SBG Express: I’ve got a ticket to ride by MsGajda</title>
		<link>http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2010/sbg-express-ive-got-a-ticket-to-ride/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>MsGajda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad I'm not the only one jumping in without having worked out all the details yet. One thing I have worked out though is kind of like a 'letter to parents' which I'm going to post online for the reference of admin/parents/students. It's similar to what Frank and Chris write, but different (obviously). If you're interested in having a look, you can find it &lt;a href="http://bit.ly/cDBh9E" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad I&#8217;m not the only one jumping in without having worked out all the details yet. One thing I have worked out though is kind of like a &#8216;letter to parents&#8217; which I&#8217;m going to post online for the reference of admin/parents/students. It&#8217;s similar to what Frank and Chris write, but different (obviously). If you&#8217;re interested in having a look, you can find it <a href="http://bit.ly/cDBh9E" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br />
<span class="cluv">MsGajda&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://msgajda.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/becoming/">Becoming the teacher I want to be</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip -1" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://blog.benwildeboer.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Summer thoughts by SBG Express: I’ve got a ticket to ride « Sustainably Digital</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBG Express: I’ve got a ticket to ride « Sustainably Digital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 02:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Science = Curiosity + Skepticism by Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.benwildeboer.com/2010/science-curiosity-skepticism/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;strong&gt;beth chase&lt;/strong&gt;: As far as building a class goes, I've learned it's best to add as many hands-on/student-centered/WCYDWT type lessons as you can, and just realize the course is a work in progress that may take years to get it where you want it to be. It's taken me awhile to get to where I'm comfortable with that fact.

A couple other blogs you might want to check out (if you haven't found them already): 
&lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/dotphysics/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dot Physics&lt;/a&gt; is written by a physics professor who often uses physics to analyze viral videos and other pop-culture events. The physics might be more advanced that your class, but even if it is you'll probably get some ideas for your classes.

&lt;a href="http://101studiostreet.com/wordpress/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Think Thank Thunk&lt;/a&gt; discusses standards-based grading a bunch, but also has some excellent posts on some physics and math concepts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<strong>beth chase</strong>: As far as building a class goes, I&#8217;ve learned it&#8217;s best to add as many hands-on/student-centered/WCYDWT type lessons as you can, and just realize the course is a work in progress that may take years to get it where you want it to be. It&#8217;s taken me awhile to get to where I&#8217;m comfortable with that fact.</p>
<p>A couple other blogs you might want to check out (if you haven&#8217;t found them already):<br />
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/dotphysics/" rel="nofollow">Dot Physics</a> is written by a physics professor who often uses physics to analyze viral videos and other pop-culture events. The physics might be more advanced that your class, but even if it is you&#8217;ll probably get some ideas for your classes.</p>
<p><a href="http://101studiostreet.com/wordpress/" rel="nofollow">Think Thank Thunk</a> discusses standards-based grading a bunch, but also has some excellent posts on some physics and math concepts.</p>
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