Comments for Associated Knowledge http://www.associatedknowledge.com The Intersection of Learning, Knowledge, Technology, and Community from an Association Perspective Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:04:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 Comment on Stream of Consciousness (2008-07-02) by David M. Patt, CAE http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/07/02/stream-of-consciousness-2008-07-02/#comment-496 David M. Patt, CAE Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:44:13 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/07/02/stream-of-consciousness-2008-07-02/#comment-496 Dave, I'm not commenting on your learning style. You can learn in whatever way works for you. If your Twitter postings are merely the sharing of your notes, that's fine. However, you give the impression that you are talking to people outside of the meeting while the meeting is going on. That's the part that bugs me. Dave, I’m not commenting on your learning style. You can learn in whatever way works for you. If your Twitter postings are merely the sharing of your notes, that’s fine. However, you give the impression that you are talking to people outside of the meeting while the meeting is going on. That’s the part that bugs me.

]]> Comment on Stream of Consciousness (2008-07-02) by Dave http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/07/02/stream-of-consciousness-2008-07-02/#comment-492 Dave Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:21:57 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/07/02/stream-of-consciousness-2008-07-02/#comment-492 David, thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. While I can't say that I agree with your position, I do appreciate the sentiment. My challenge to you would be to say: how is capturing my random thoughts via Twitter any different than doing it with pen and paper or via a laptop. For better or for worse, part of our organizational culture is to have devices with us in meetings. That's not to say it is ideal or proper in all circumstances but it is what it is. It also doesn't hurt to mention that many of our meetings are done in a virtual manner which means we are collaborating by way of all types of ICT (interactive communication technology), so it's there anyway. Not to get too philosophical about meetings or technology but for me it's a matter of learning style. In all honesty I was conditioned by my corporate background to feel obligated to have a notebook with me at every meeting and to furiously capture what was going on via that medium because that was what was expected. However, what I found was the fact that I became so immersed in capturing the events that I often didn't participate as I could/should have. For me that was too distracting. However, what I found was that I didn't need any notes or tools to capture the more salient points of the meeting...I have an auditory learning style which simply meant that I could literally remember what I needed to by participating and simply listening. Over time, I learned to use that to my advantage and became a very active participant and still walk away from a meeting having contributed and actually capturing what I needed to. As I became more proficient, I'd take mental snapshots of feelings, thoughts or ideas via one medium or another, Twitter just happens to be one of them. For me, the moral of the story is what works for one doesn't always work for others but that doesn't make it right or wrong. It simply makes it a cognitive/learning/work style difference. At the end of the day, there is rarely a meeting that I attend that I don't participate in fully, I've just learned to balance my need to participate with my need to capture what I am thinking, feeling or seeing as I do. David, thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. While I can’t say that I agree with your position, I do appreciate the sentiment. My challenge to you would be to say: how is capturing my random thoughts via Twitter any different than doing it with pen and paper or via a laptop. For better or for worse, part of our organizational culture is to have devices with us in meetings. That’s not to say it is ideal or proper in all circumstances but it is what it is. It also doesn’t hurt to mention that many of our meetings are done in a virtual manner which means we are collaborating by way of all types of ICT (interactive communication technology), so it’s there anyway.

Not to get too philosophical about meetings or technology but for me it’s a matter of learning style. In all honesty I was conditioned by my corporate background to feel obligated to have a notebook with me at every meeting and to furiously capture what was going on via that medium because that was what was expected. However, what I found was the fact that I became so immersed in capturing the events that I often didn’t participate as I could/should have. For me that was too distracting.

However, what I found was that I didn’t need any notes or tools to capture the more salient points of the meeting…I have an auditory learning style which simply meant that I could literally remember what I needed to by participating and simply listening. Over time, I learned to use that to my advantage and became a very active participant and still walk away from a meeting having contributed and actually capturing what I needed to.

As I became more proficient, I’d take mental snapshots of feelings, thoughts or ideas via one medium or another, Twitter just happens to be one of them. For me, the moral of the story is what works for one doesn’t always work for others but that doesn’t make it right or wrong. It simply makes it a cognitive/learning/work style difference. At the end of the day, there is rarely a meeting that I attend that I don’t participate in fully, I’ve just learned to balance my need to participate with my need to capture what I am thinking, feeling or seeing as I do.

]]> Comment on Stream of Consciousness (2008-07-02) by David M. Patt, CAE http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/07/02/stream-of-consciousness-2008-07-02/#comment-491 David M. Patt, CAE Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:03:44 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/07/02/stream-of-consciousness-2008-07-02/#comment-491 Hey, Dave, I'd be pretty ticked if a person sitting in a meeting with me was Twittering or texting instead of being part of the meeting. Twitter when the meeting is over - if you really must. Hey, Dave, I’d be pretty ticked if a person sitting in a meeting with me was Twittering or texting instead of being part of the meeting. Twitter when the meeting is over - if you really must.

]]> Comment on Trendspotting: Social Media, Social Networking and Web Technology in 2008 by Shell Smith http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/01/08/trendspotting-social-media-social-networking-and-web-technology-in-2008/#comment-479 Shell Smith Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:18:34 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/01/08/trendspotting-social-media-social-networking-and-web-technology-in-2008/#comment-479 That is a great idea to post every Tuesday on our changing world - with its drastically changing organizations. I recently watched an <a href="http://mshare.net/news/mshare-news-04102008.html" title="interview" rel="nofollow">interview</a> that has peaked my interest in this year's changes. Thanks for all your view points on Social Media - I look forward to learning more. That is a great idea to post every Tuesday on our changing world - with its drastically changing organizations. I recently watched an interview that has peaked my interest in this year’s changes. Thanks for all your view points on Social Media - I look forward to learning more.

]]> Comment on Something to Consider: Community, Collaboration and Social Media by Jeff Cobb http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/something-to-consider-community-collaboration-and-social-media/#comment-478 Jeff Cobb Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:29:02 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/something-to-consider-community-collaboration-and-social-media/#comment-478 I am just glad someone finally pointed out the importance of gin. Oil isn't the only thing that can grease an economic engine! -Jeff I am just glad someone finally pointed out the importance of gin. Oil isn’t the only thing that can grease an economic engine! -Jeff

]]> Comment on Something to Consider: Community, Collaboration and Social Media by Peggy http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/something-to-consider-community-collaboration-and-social-media/#comment-477 Peggy Fri, 30 May 2008 18:50:20 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/something-to-consider-community-collaboration-and-social-media/#comment-477 "Media that's targeted at you but doesn't include you may not be worth sitting still for" ... just having spent 1.5 days at the Membership & Marketing Conf where too much of the conversation was the "same as" it was refreshing to sit through this presentation. “Media that’s targeted at you but doesn’t include you may not be worth sitting still for” … just having spent 1.5 days at the Membership & Marketing Conf where too much of the conversation was the “same as” it was refreshing to sit through this presentation.

]]> Comment on Something to Consider: Community, Collaboration and Social Media by Dave http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/something-to-consider-community-collaboration-and-social-media/#comment-471 Dave Thu, 29 May 2008 22:19:11 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/something-to-consider-community-collaboration-and-social-media/#comment-471 Thanks JNott! Knowing how busy I have been as well, I know exactly what you are saying. I am trying to find and post meaningful content that I find valuable and therefore am more confident others will as well. Shirky is a pretty dynamic speaker and I was really psyched to see the video. I think I'd enjoy him as a conference presenter: good content and engaging style. What more can you ask for? Thanks JNott! Knowing how busy I have been as well, I know exactly what you are saying. I am trying to find and post meaningful content that I find valuable and therefore am more confident others will as well. Shirky is a pretty dynamic speaker and I was really psyched to see the video. I think I’d enjoy him as a conference presenter: good content and engaging style. What more can you ask for?

]]> Comment on Something to Consider: Community, Collaboration and Social Media by Jamie Notter http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/something-to-consider-community-collaboration-and-social-media/#comment-470 Jamie Notter Thu, 29 May 2008 22:12:44 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/something-to-consider-community-collaboration-and-social-media/#comment-470 Thanks Dave. I'll tell you, just putting in that comment about the Mouse at the end got me to watch this thing (even though I've had plenty of references to Shirky that I've passed on because I'm "too busy"), and I'm so glad I did. He's really good! Thanks Dave. I’ll tell you, just putting in that comment about the Mouse at the end got me to watch this thing (even though I’ve had plenty of references to Shirky that I’ve passed on because I’m “too busy”), and I’m so glad I did. He’s really good!

]]> Comment on What Mountains Do You Climb? by Jake Norton http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/what-mountains-do-you-climb/#comment-469 Jake Norton Thu, 29 May 2008 20:33:46 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/29/what-mountains-do-you-climb/#comment-469 Hi Dave, Great post, and nice to see an accurate one out there, especially with the "Because it's there" story with Mallory. Too many people mistakenly assume he was being serious! As you well know, he was for more philosophical about his reasons for climbing Everest: "...there is something in man which responds to the challenge of this mountain, and goes out to meet it...The struggle is the struggle of life itself, upward and forever upward. What we get from this adventure is just sheer joy. And joy is, afterall, the end of life." Nice work! If you have some time and interest in more Everest info, stories, videos, etc., please stop by my blog at http://www.mountainworld.typepad.com. Thanks! Jake Norton MountainWorld Productions Hi Dave,

Great post, and nice to see an accurate one out there, especially with the “Because it’s there” story with Mallory. Too many people mistakenly assume he was being serious! As you well know, he was for more philosophical about his reasons for climbing Everest: “…there is something in man which responds to the challenge of this mountain, and goes out to meet it…The struggle is the struggle of life itself, upward and forever upward. What we get from this adventure is just sheer joy. And joy is, afterall, the end of life.”

Nice work! If you have some time and interest in more Everest info, stories, videos, etc., please stop by my blog at http://www.mountainworld.typepad.com.

Thanks!

Jake Norton
MountainWorld Productions

]]> Comment on Measuring a Conference’s Value: Thoughts on digitalNow 2008 by Dave http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/05/measuring-a-conferences-value-thoughts-on-digitalnow-2008/#comment-377 Dave Thu, 08 May 2008 11:06:18 +0000 http://www.associatedknowledge.com/2008/05/05/measuring-a-conferences-value-thoughts-on-digitalnow-2008/#comment-377 Jeff, the conference is definitely worth checking out if for no other reason than the quality of the keynote speakers. That said, I'd love to see you there next year. As for the aesthetic here, it's definitely a work in progress but I am really happy with where I have gotten to with it. Jeff, the conference is definitely worth checking out if for no other reason than the quality of the keynote speakers. That said, I’d love to see you there next year. As for the aesthetic here, it’s definitely a work in progress but I am really happy with where I have gotten to with it.

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