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Wtf is all this stuff doing on CW?

Mattis Manzel:
Moving here from 2012-06-07 WikiNet:

AlexSchroeder

Holy cow what a mess of links and feeds and icons and InterWiki names. Mattis, does anybody use this beyond yourself? It’s confusing as hell. I’m already finding myself alienated from RecentChanges on CommunityWiki since I no longer understand what the pages say, for whom they are written, or what the benefit for people like me is.

What’s the goal, here? Better networking? Networking is not a goal per se. It must be networking between various people. Who are these people? I don’t feel like I’m a part of this network. Who is sitting at the other end of all these connections?

Mµs? Net groups? Hive talk? Kabo? WTF?

I’m confused.

MattisManzel

Sorry Alex. Complicated, admitted. It’s kinda what came to my mind over the recent years. I couldn’t help applying it to the community-wiki. Let me just add a few wiki-net pages to finish, then we wait for 7 days and the confusion is gone from the recent changes. I think we can continue as usual then without being disturbed by the pages I made recently. I might update a day-page-set here and now and maybe parts of the whole mess can be used with other ideas later. No bad intentions.

AlexSchroeder

Ok, we’ll see. I do believe that you have no bad intentions. I’d say that perhaps I am worried about you. Did you see Beautiful Mind? Do you remember where he sits in his shack in the backyard with a huge map on the wall, and thousands of snippets, and lines and links and little pages of stuff everywhere, everything is so stuffed, so crazy. And it’s all in his head. He thinks it is important. He worries. He builds. And I felt like his wife, blundering into the secret hideout, and seeing the mass of changes, and the many pages I did not understand, and I felt dread creeping up my spine. What does it all mean?

MattisManzel

No, I didn’t see it yet. This is a jam session. We don’t know what it all means.

MattisManzel

Don’t worry Alex, please. Maybe it’s what’s commonly called crazy (I’m in good company here) but it surely is for a good purpose. I’m repeating what I did before with the usual slight improvement on odd-wiki-hive - ‘wiki-net’ currently. No groove without repetition. The oldest traces of human culture are five lines carved into a stone somewhere (or are the bear crane settings in Switzerland older? Dunno).

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As I find myself reverting spam again, and not seeing any other edits, I get the feeling that it might be a good idea to put the wiki back into the fishbowl. Anybody still needs to edit pages?

I’m also thinking that maybe I’ll switch off all these feeds and inclusions. They’re eating cycles and feeding global warming without doing any good as far as I am concerned. Is anybody relying on them?

MattisManzel

low soup.io wiki

Well, true, my feeds melt Greenland, cool.

I’ve been experimenting a lot recently and figured out a way to build the feeds (almost) without using soup.io. They update within ~ ½ an hour now, with soup.io it took nine hours to update (if at all). I’d like to apply that new mode to the community-wiki also to hear if it reduces the meltdown of Greenland a little.

A recent low soup.io wiki I started is the soup-wiki.

I’ve also been experimenting with my personal wiki. Personal wikis need a swap of the [[soup?]] and the [[face?]] it seems. The face-feed of the Mattis-Manzel-wiki goes out into a bunch of web-services.

2 hours later: No such pipe, or this pipe has been deleted on [[yahoo_-_pipes_community-wiki_-_soup?]]. f…, I love that!

Apart of that, I just remember: plain day-pages without _Face or _Talk etc. attached mess up the multiple feed structure. I’m moving this to the _Talk page for today.

Another half an hour later: the yahoo pipe is back. Djins knibbling on the wires probably.

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Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:17:19 +0100

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second facebook group for demonstration purposes

Mattis Manzel:
To try out the inclusion of the [[soup?]] of the community-wiki into a facebook group for it I started another

: [[facebook_-_group_community-wiki?]]

The one lion started a few days ago - [[facebook_-_group_CommunityWiki?]] - sits in his facebook account, suboptimal, the second one for demonstration purposes has been started from the user account [[facebook_-_community-wiki?]], optimal. In case the soup inclusion appeals the group members might think about moving over, ok?

And let’s see if the second talk post is forwarded into the [[facebook_-_page_community-wiki?]] then. The first one wasn’t.

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Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:17:19 +0100

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far bigger than I first thought

Mattis Manzel:
Hm. I realize that the community-wiki idea of the copyleft wiki for communities is far bigger than I first thought.

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Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:17:18 +0100

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this is how a day-page ‘talk’ in the community-wiki would look like

Mattis Manzel:
Other than the [[changes?]] to the wiki showing only the page summary day-pages include the full text of pages. This page is an example for a day-page talk.
It is included into the [[facebook_-_page_community-wiki?]]. Only day-pages talk in the community-wiki are included into the facebook page. A “like” for the page on facebook makes the talk posts in the wiki appear in your facebook account.

Becoming friend with the user account [[facebook_-_community-wiki?]] makes the [[soup?]] of the community-wiki appear in your facebook account.

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Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:17:13 +0100

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it had been rather silent

It had been rather silent in the [[community-wiki?]] for a while.

In the mid of May LionKimbro started the [[first_facebook_group_community-wiki?]], MarkDilley and others invited to it and - surprise - it somehow seems to work …

PhilJones introduced the SmallestFederatedWiki to us. Whao!

MattisManzel added a periphery of connected web-services and few day-page-sets to the wiki:

[[connected_web-services?]]
[[day-page-sets?]]
[[search_queries?]]

No, we still don’t know where we’re going.

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41 minutes ago from CommunityWiki: FrontPage - Comment - Like

too sexy - community-wiki