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Codex supplement Black Legion Review

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:09:00 +0000

The Codex Black legion is kind of cool fluff Wise, but like the CSM codex it could be rough to play in small game. As a specialist army they become expensive really fast. Take a look more deeply.

Veterans Of the Long War: First you have to get veteran of the long war which I usually take anyway but not on all my units. it is about 100 to 150pts on 3k list.

The Bringer Of Despair: for 6 Pts per Terminator you can get +1WS +1 BS, witch it can be nasty 5 in Skill is almost he perfect number you will hit on 3+ the majority of the foe and you will hit at 2+ on shooting. What is increase the effectiveness of your terminator death star squad.

You have to take Abbadon, total cost of this combo 500 to 600 pts more if you take the Land raider what I don't recommend.

Combo you can be use it is join by Abbadon with combi-Plasma, which mean rapid fire 10 plasma shoot hitting on 2+ reroll (warlord trait Abbadon preferred enemy) wounding almost everything on 2+ reroll. Pro: Very powerful Con: High cost and you can mishap, you have 5 out 6 chance it is go wrong 1 out 3 scatter average 7 inch and is you mishap 1 out 2 to be useless risky move at 500 Pts plus slay the warlord. (you will have reroll on mishap but only in strategic asset, It is a shame)

Chosen as Troop : Its is probably why you will use this codex supplement using Chosen without Abbadon what is mean you can be lead by Typhus and have chosen for troops. Chosen are an expensive choice of troops, but probably one of the best, standing beside plague marine, noise marine and cultist/Zombies.

Chosen are a great choice for a firepower threat or a close combat threat. average cost for a squad is 300 pts you have to think about it.

Warlord Trait : in general they are better than the table of the CSM codex and less situation specific in compare of the big rule book one. What is good ,the only one who is useless is stubborn don't roll 6 ;p.

Chaos Artefacts Vault: If you go fluff wise with a full Black legion army without allies you must forget the classical CSM Artifacts,(its a shame)

The SpineShiver Blade: Basically the Artifact everyone wanted in CSM codex it is the classical Daemon Sword +1 initiative. Cheaper than the CSM equivalent (don't forget almost all Independent character in Codex space marine are in Artificer armour 2+, I highly suggest to match it with power axe)

The Crucible of Lies: It is a devil trade -1T for reroll Invulnerable save of 1. I know , I Know who want T3 but if you take bike and Mark of Nurgle you will be at T5, and if you take any mount you will be at T4 what is standards. If you take the Mark of tzeencth and the sigil you will be at 3++ and if you add the crucible you will reroll 1 its like a 2.16++

Last memory of Yuranthos : It can be your wild card against the horde army it is basically a nova ignore cover with the stats of bolter assault 2D6 blind. (I use once on a chaos sorcerer Lv3 (range 6 inch per charge +6) on bike against Eldar and its really devastating.

The Eye Of Night : Its is in the family of Marbo move but against vehicles large blast ignore cover D3 auto penetration, range infinite. Almost the same cost as Marbo

The Skull Of Ker'ngar: 10 pts less than the eternal Shield giving eternal warrior witch will be lose if you got boon as prince or spawn, you can trade 3++ for adamantium will , Lol funny trade.

The Hand of Darkness : it is a really cool instant killer weapon like the murder sword, but like the murder sword you will be screw by a good inv save, because you only have one ATK, a really strange Artifacts.

In conclusion I don't often use this supplement even if I play fluff because I can buy Abbadon with the pts saved on VOTLW on some units plus a boosted lord is average 215.
I can use the almost same combo for bringer with Obliterator for less expensive 228pts

In fact I have some difficulties to figured out a list on 1850pts and we play usualy at 3k so Abbadon worth it at 3k.

Battle report Adepta Sororitas VS Blood Angels

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:12:00 +0000

The Order of Sacre Bleu and the Blood Angels fought for and planet in the sub-sectors of Kronus 4. This sector was qualified being vital ground by the Blood Angel due of an Aquilla Strong points under construction, but the Ecclesiarchy claims a holy relic under the construction site and declare, if someone are against this it is only pure heresy and it should be purify! This is the Battle report of Fortification N59A7

L'Ordre du Sacre Bleu

HQ: Saint Celestine (1 , 135 pts)

HQ: Canoness Sophie la pure (1 , 115 pts)
Warlord, Rosarius, Book of St lucius, power maul

HQ: Command squad (5 , 115 pts)
4x heavy bolter 1x hospitaller

HQ: Ministorium Priest (1 , 55 pts)
1x Eviscerator

HQ: Uriah Jacobus (1 , 100 pts)

HQ: Ecclasiarchy battle conclave (10 , 210 pts)
6x Death cult Assassin, 3x crusader
Rhino
dozer blade

Troops: Sister from the bloody rose (11 , 235 pts)

Simulacrum imperialis, 1x meltagun, 1x heavy flamer, combi-melta, power maul, melta bombs
Rhino
dozer blade , 1x Laud Hailer

Troops: Sister from the ebon chalice (11 , 235 pts)

Simulacrum imperialis, 1x meltagun, 1x heavy flamer, combi-melta, power maul, melta bombs
Rhino
dozer blade , 1x Laud Hailer

Troops: Sister from The valorous Heart (11 , 235 pts)

Simulacrum imperialis, 1x meltagun, 1x heavy flamer, combi-melta, power maul, melta bombs
Rhino
dozer blade , 1x Laud Hailer

Troops: Sister from the Argent Shroud (11 , 235pts)

Simulacrum imperialis, 1x meltagun, 1x heavy flamer, combi-melta, power maul, melta bombs
Rhino
dozer blade , 1x Laud Hailer

Elite: Seeker of redemption: Repentia squad (10 , 155 pts)

Fast Attack: Martyred lady's Angels: Seraphim squad (5 , 95 pts)
2x two hand flamers, melta bombs

Fast Attack: Celestine's sister: Seraphim squad (5 , 95 pts)
2x two hand flamers, melta bombs

Fast Attack: boiling wrath: Dominion squad (6 , 203 pts)
Simulacrum imperialis, 4 x meltagun,1 x dominion
Immolator
Twin-linked Multi-melta, dozer blade
1x Laud Hailer

Heavy Support: Retributor from the Sacred rose: Retributor squad (10 , 170 pts)
Simulacrum imperialis, 4 x heavy bolter, 5x Retributor

Heavy Support: Holy rain: Exorcist (1 , 135 pts)
1x Laud Hailer

Heavy Support: Magma rain: Exorcist (1 , 135 pts)
1x Laud Hailer

Heavy Support: The unforgiving :Penitent Engine (3 , 240 pts)

Fortification: Aegis position no 4048 (1 , 100pts)

1x Quad gun

Total: 2998 pts

Blood Angels

HQ: Astorath the Grim (1 , 220 pts)

Warlord Traits
6 - Immovable Object
HQ: Captain in Power Armour (1 , 160 pts)
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Iron Halo;Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Jump Pack; Infernus Pistol (x1);

Elite: Sanguinary Priest (1 , 95 pts)

Jump Pack; Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Power Sword

Elite: Furioso Dreadnought (2 , 175 pts)Extra Armour; Blood Fist with Meltagun; Frag Cannon

Drop Pod

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6 , 190 pts)Combi-Meltagun (x5); Melta Bombs
Drop Pod

Fast Attack: Baal Predator (1 , 145 pts)

Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Flamestorm Cannon; Heavy Flamer (each side)

Troops: Death Company (4 , 300 pts)
Lemartes, Guardian of the Lost,3x Power Maul, 3x Bolter

Troops: Death Company (7 , 260 pts)

6x Boltgun; 1x Thunder Hammer
Razorback Dozer Blade; Extra Armour; Twin-Linked Assault Cannon

Troops: Death Company Dreadnought (2 , 185 pts)

Smoke Launchers; Blood Talon with Meltagun;Blood Talon with Heavy Flamer; Magna-grapple; Heavy Flamer; Blood Talons; Fleet;Drop Pod

Troops: Tactical Squad (11 , 280 pts)Meltagun; Plasma Cannon Melta Bombs; Teleport Homer; Combi-Meltagun (x1); Power Maul (x1)RhinoDozer Blade; Storm Bolter; Repair
Troops: Assault Squad (10 , 250 pts)

Bolt Pistol (x7); Chainsword (x7); Meltagun; Meltagun;The Red Thirst Combat Shield; Melta Bombs; Infernus Pistol (x1); Power Maul (x1)

Troops: Scout Squad (10 , 200 pts)
Camo Cloaks; Sniper Rifle (x8); Missile Launcher Melta Bombs; Sniper Rifle; Power Maul (x1)

Heavy Support: Stormraven Gunship (1 , 235 pts)
Ceramite Plating; Extra Armour; 4x Bloodstrike Missiles; Twin-Linked Plasma Cannon; Twin-Linked Multi-melta; Hurricane Bolters (each side); Assault Vehicle; Power of the Machine Spirit; Skies of Fury
Heavy Support: Predator (1 , 140 pts)
Dozer Blade; Autocannon;Lascannon (each side)

Heavy Support: Vindicator (1 , 160 pts)Dozer Blade; Siege Shield;

Deployment map: Hammer and Anvil

Mission: Crusade (3 objectives, one in the middle and one in each players zone)

Sisters deploy first

Initiative: not stole

Night Fight: turn 5 roll

Sisters Warlords Trait: Righteous Rage

Blood Angels Warlords Trait: Immovable object

Sisters Deployments

I would denied my opponent ability to work behind me with his deep strike and his melta squad, by using rhino turtle tactics. Its was also funny and fluffy to put Repentia squad in the middle of the map making good use of the cover and seeking for redemption.

Sisters Reserve

1x Seraphim squad: deep strike
1x Seraphim squad with St Celestine: deep strike
1x Dominion squad: outflank
3x Penitent Engine: Reserves

Blood Angels Deployments

The Blood Angels opt for an doctrinal assault tactic, by preparing a frontal and a flanking assault. He cannot deployed his priest with the Assault squad because they fall to the red thirst. he put him near the scout.

Blood Angels Reserves

1x Stormraven: Reserve
1x Sternguard: Deep Strike Drop pod
1x Death company Dreadnought: Deep Strike Drop pod
1x Furioso Dreadnought; Deep Strike Drop pod
1x Assault squad with Captain: Deep Strike

Blood Angels Scout move

Blood Angels punched the gas the Baal predator and get cover, and Scout takes position in the ruins (the far one on the map)

Sisters Turn 1

movements

I revised my position and decide to move some units forward mainly a non scoring one.

Sisters Turn 1

Shooting

even if I got lucky with night fight I was not able to score the first blood nor kill a single units.

Sisters Turn 1

Assault

No assault

Blood Angels Turn 1

movements

The blood Angels Drop 2out of 3 Drop pod Starting the assault with 2 Dreadnought, I called intercept with my canoness quadguns and I destroyed the Death company Dreadnought Drop Pod, claiming in the same occasion the First blood.

The Blood Angels had push forward Razorback, Baal Predator, vindicator and disembarked the death company form the Razorback.

Blood Angels Turn 1

Shooting

The Blood Angels kill almost all Celestian squad with the frag canon, denying my FnP. He also Snipe a couple of Repentia, and shake the Exorcist on the right with his Predator. Kill half of my front sister squad with the death coy. The rest was soak or miss.

Blood Angels Turn 1

Assault

No assault

TURN 2

Sisters Turn 2

Reserve

The Seraphim arrived on Target like an angel's feather, followed by Dominion who have found a weak spot on the right flank.

Sisters Turn 2

movements

Seeing Repentia Spit their hate toward the Baal Predator the Canoness Sophie Orders at the forward sister squad to push toward the Vindicator in order to melt it. The retributory squad move to take a better position. Also my left side rhino got immobilized.

Sisters Turn 2

Shooting

I shoot the Death coy Dreadnought in the back forgetting to use faith I only glance him twice WTF, but the Celestian squad finish it with heavy bolter in the rear WOOT!. The Front line Sisters squad melt the Vindicator with their melta, combi-melta and their faith, I learn from the first squad.

Meanwhile the Dominion squad use faith to shoot in the rear armour of the Predator wrecking it. The Dominion Immolator shot the rhino but only immobilized it, scratching my plan for my Seraphim squad who glance it with pistol. My second Seraphim squad kill only one scout the priest saved them all.

Sisters Turn 2

Assault

The Repentia Hoping for the forgiveness of the emperors saw a great opportunity by destroying Ball Predator a great threats for their sisters, but their fanaticism pushed them to target the Prometheum Tanks on the top in order to send a message to all Emperors foe, a enormous explosion. Killing almost all the Repentia. It was a great sacrificed.

Blood Angels Turn 2

Reserve

1x Stormraven: Reserve (move toward my Immolator) (too far from my Quadgun)
1x Sternguard: Deep Strike Drop pod (on my left side)
1x Assault squad with Captain: Deep Strike (scatter in ruins on the left)

Blood Angels Turn 2

movements

Blood Angels Push forward with his Razorback and move the Astorath squad toward my St Celestine and the other Death coy squad move toward the ruins near my Dominion squad.

Blood Angels Turn 2

Shooting

Furioso Dreadnought kill the remains of Repentia, Sternguard fail to melt my Exorcist, my last Celestian died, the my Immolator saved an explosion but got shaken, Assault squad destroyed a rhino. In one word I got lucky!!!

Blood Angels Turn 2

Assault

I have got assaulted by Death coy, I took the challenge from Astorath with my sister superior, killing some Death Coy marines and losing all my Seraphim. My St Celestine Fail her Hit and run.

TURN 3

Sisters Turn 3

Reserve

3x Penitent Engine: Reserves. Disappointed by the Sister's lack of sacrifice the old Uriah order the release of the penitent engine to show at all the sisters how horrible fail could be.

Sisters Turn 3

movements

I embark the remaining of the front squad and push forward, move my Dominion trough the ruins wall, push forward with my battle conclave, move my left squad in hope to melt the Furioso and move my penitent engine to buff the threat on my left side.

Sisters Turn 3

Shooting

I use the second act of faith granted by my Simulacrum Imperialis but I fail hopefully laud hailer let them know the penitent engine was on their way, what make them think they could not fail, so they got their reroll. They kill 2 Death Coy marines without cover allowed.

The penitent unleash their hate and burn the whole assault squad (58 wounds of prometheum)

Embolden by the vision of Engine the retributor and the canoness shoot on Sternguard and the rhino tried but failed to finish the squad, one remains

Exorcists and Sisters squad fail to destroy the Furioso, but if Sisters have to die is not because they deserve it its because they have to its the Emperors will.

Sisters Turn 3

Assault

Sister failed to put a melta bomb on furioso after lot of them got shred by the frag Canon, facing the fact they can do nothing they decided to retreat.

St Celestine got instant Death by the Axe of Astorath, but dying when your are a living Saint is futile. She will be back

Blood Angels Turn 3

movements

Blood Angels Movements turn 3 was pretty short the Storm Raven did a 90 degree and prepare to shoot at he Sisters Rhino. Furioso Followed the Sister in order to finish the job he have started. Astorath move near the rhino waiting the explosion and Lemarte decide to finish the Immolator.

Blood Angels Turn 3

Shooting

The Blood Angels plan goes well he destroyed my Rhino without difficulties, but fail burn them down with plasma canon. The Furioso shred the last Sisters of the squad near the Penitent Engine.

Blood Angels Turn 3

Assault

Lemarte easily manage the Immolator but 2 Death coy marines out of 3 got melt in the overwatch by the dominion and the last one got killed by the embolden ones.

Astorath also got instant killed in the overwatch by a faithful Sister.

TURN 4

Sisters Turn 4

Reserve

St Celestine came back to life

Sisters Turn 4

movements

The left Sister squad disembark in order to hold the points, Penitent engine move toward the Furioso. The Dominion squad took a aim on Lemarte after the reorganization the remains of the front squad go to finish the Blood Angels Rhino and St Celestine prepared to charge the tactical squad in case of. A Rhino full of Sister push the gas to reach the middle of the map by the center and battle conclave push forward.

Sisters Turn 4

Shooting

Shooting was kind of short I mainly push forward with two rhino I gun down the last Sternguard and I melt Lemarte I also greatly damage the Storm Raven, with my Exorcist, who goes in evasion. I also destroyed the rhino, but I don't remember how. And I flame the Furioso with Penitent for the style ;p

Sisters Turn 4

Assault

I tried to assault Furioso with my penitent engine and I got a salty overwatch I fail my charge and I loose 2 HP.

Blood Angels Turn 4

movements

The Storm Raven go out of the table and the Furioso move toward my Engine

Blood Angels Turn 4

Shooting

The Furioso shoot at my Penitent but I roll my save against the worst result I lose 3 HP

Blood Angels Turn 4

Assault

The Furioso almost succeed to destroy all Penitent, immobilized the last one.

TURN 5

Sisters Turn 5

movements

For my movements, I push forward with my battle conclave in order to finish the scout squat hide in the ruins and I moved my center squad near the center objective.

Sisters Turn 5

Shooting

I clear the Drop pods with my Exorcist and my meltagun, in order to denied the line breaker points. I burn down the tactical squad only the Sgt remains. I also tried to kill sniper with my dominion, but it doesn't work.

Sisters Turn 5

Assault

St Celestine kill the last tactical marines.

The Furioso miss all his attack, even if immobilized Antoinette an ex formal Palatine who failed in battle by letting the Chaos pierce her flank, but not this time seeking desperately for redemption of her sin, Scream NOT THIS TIMES!!! and she crush the frag Canon of the Furioso and continue the battle.

Blood Angels Turn 5

movements

The Storm Raven came back staying far from the quadgun.

Blood Angels Turn 4

Shooting

the sniper and the Storm Raven shoot at the battle conclave killing 3 crusader and 2 assassins.

Blood Angels Turn 5

Assault

The Furioso experiencing some trouble shot hit once, but Antoinette so much infused by the light of the emperors crush the leg of the Dreadnought immobilized him.

The Battle report finish here the last transmission caught at dusk was the HQ of Blood Angels to the Storm Ravens '' Get the sniper and let this piece of shit at these crazy bitch! Over!''

Sister 8

Blood Angels 1

Monogod list NURLE

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:48:00 +0000

Many complains about the Chaos space marines codex about is general purpose, but in fact this general purpose is awesome you can fit all kind of chaos space Marines especially for the veterans players you can go all out for fluff, an Iron warrior can go for daemon engine list with warpsmith, a word bearer player can go with Dark apostle and daemon allies, an Alpha Legion theme will shine with imperial guard allies. In fact
all these chaos facet take all their meaning with allies lots of them with the daemon codex. The main example of that is the Monogods marine like world eaters, thousand son, emperors children's and death guards.

So I will post some of good example of monogod list I tried and like at 3k points (dark gods was please I wont each game when I tried monogod ).

I will Start with a Death Guards army not only because they have awesome resilient troops, but also because it always been one of the favorite of CSM players.

HQ: Typhus (1 , 230 pts)Warlord

HQ: Chaos Lord (1 , 200 pts)

Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Mark of Nurgle; Blight Grenades; Melta Bombs; Power Axe (x1); Chaos Bike; Sigil of Corruption; Twin-Linked Boltgun (x1) The Black Mace; Veterans of the Long War

Elite: Chaos Terminators (6 , 507 pts)

Mark of Nurgle; Power Fist (x5); Combi-Plasmagun (x5);Veterans of the Long War

Chaos Land RaiderDozer Blade;

Elite: Helbrute (1 , 120 pts)Plasma Cannon; Power Scourge; Troops: Plague Zombies (35 , 150 pts)
Troops: Plague Zombies (35 , 150 pts)

Troops: Plague Zombies (35 , 150 pts)

Troops: Plague Marines (11 , 340 pts)
Blight Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt

Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Plague Knife (x9); Plasma gun (x2); Fearless; Feel No Pain;

Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Nurgle; Veterans of the Long War; Power Fist (x1);Chaos Rhino

Fast Attack: Chaos Spawn (5 , 180 pts)
Mark of Nurgle

Fast Attack: Heldrake (1 , 170 pts)Baleflamer
Heavy Support: Obliterator (3 , 237 pts)Mark of Nurgle; Allies

HQ: Great Unclean One (1 , 290 pts)
DR: Greater Rewards (x1); DR: Exalted Rewards; Psyker (Mastery Level Troops:

Plaguebearers of Nurgle (10 , 105 pts)
DR: Lesser Rewards (x1); DR: Magic Weapons (N) (x1)
Heavy Support: Soul Grinder (1 , 170 pts)
Daemon of Nurgle; Harvester Cannon; mW: Iron Claw; rW:Baleful Torrent;

Total 2999

With this list I could take the center of the map and keep it with the zombie and the Unclean one, I could also score a long range objective with Plague marine and the rest keep the opponent busy in his zone. I know I know 105 zombies is cunt lol , but I would try it and its work he will never pass trough even if he have the fire power of 3k list. If you are doing a Nurgle army consider to use plague drone and beast of nurgle they can be really efficiancy.

(Adepta Sorotitas) Army list of the next weekend 3k 6th edition

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 01:36:00 +0000

Like many I leave my sister of battle in the foam when white dwarf codex appears ( mainly because we play 3k game and the dynamic of faith was unplayable at these points)

Many complain the sister of battle got nerf, yeah it does, but the 3rd edition codex was to strong. At my opinion the 3rd codex could be normal in 6th edition, but we got a different one so lets try it, so we can have a better opinion of it. (My main complaint is remove karamasov from the codex he could be in both I have a nice useless awesome model ty GW).

L'Ordre du Sacre Bleu

HQ: Saint Celestine (1 , 135 pts)

HQ: Canoness Sophie la pure (1 , 115 pts)
Warlord, Rosarius, Book of St lucius, power maul

HQ: Command squad (5 , 115 pts)
4x heavy bolter 1x hospitaller

HQ: Ministorium Priest (1 , 25 pts)
1x Eviscerator

HQ: Uriah Jacobus (1 , 100 pts)

HQ: Ecclasiarchy battle conclave (10 , 210 pts)
6x Death cult Assassin, 3x crusader
Rhino
dozer blade

Troops: Sister from the bloody rose (11 , 235 pts)

Simulacrum imperialis, 1x meltagun, 1x heavy flamer, combi-melta, power maul, melta bombs
Rhino
dozer blade , 1x Laud Hailer

Troops: Sister from the ebon chalice (11 , 235 pts)

Simulacrum imperialis, 1x meltagun, 1x heavy flamer, combi-melta, power maul, melta bombs
Rhino
dozer blade , 1x Laud Hailer

Troops: Sister from The valorous Heart (11 , 235 pts)

Simulacrum imperialis, 1x meltagun, 1x heavy flamer, combi-melta, power maul, melta bombs
Rhino
dozer blade , 1x Laud Hailer

Troops: Sister from the Argent Shroud (11 , 235pts)

Simulacrum imperialis, 1x meltagun, 1x heavy flamer, combi-melta, power maul, melta bombs
Rhino
dozer blade , 1x Laud Hailer

1x Quad gun

Total: 2998 pts

I sell them, bid start a 4000$ if you want ;p

CSM REVIEW and combo PART 4 HEAVY SUPPORT and WARGEAR

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:40:00 +0000

SUPPORTHavocsA bit less expensive than before they can now wear anti-aircraft missile launchers, but to make them resilient as the other support units you will need to invest more points on them. A proper unit but no more. Autocanons are our trade mark and they are more efficiency than ever, thanks to the new come flyer, they are good against soft skin like rhino, monstrous creature who have usually a low save and now you can get lucky to hit flyer who are usually low AV. This jack of all trade will climb in threat priority for your enemy.

Combo: 4x Autocanons 115pts without more, is less than the pain of losing them ; p

Rating: ****

ObliteratorA bit less expensive than before they can now get marked. That make them less vulnerable to force 8 and 9 ( mark Nurgle ) , they won the assault cannon , but must change weapon every turn. A very good unit who suffer of a major flaw 8Ld not fearless WTF!! lol they are one men army lol. Because of that reason I only see them to serve as suicide units or a bodyguard for lord in terminator armor.

Combo: Mark of Nurgle with Abbadon reroll 1 with them is really nasty surprise.

evaluation ***Forgefiendsa Playable units if you keep him with Hades Autocanon.Better range no get hot and cheaper.
Combo: Like Havoc he can fully benefit of the Primaris spell from divination, only accessible with allies or by chance in our codex.

Rating:***

Maulerfiends
More efficiency than the Hellbrute for almost the same price. Faster, with more attack, an a 5++ save, fear rule(negligible merit),without crazy rule and more dangerous for the tanks he is bit more expensive (negligible) than a Hellbrute in counter part is more vulnerable in CC because of the melta bombs and the enemy walkers ( CC3, I3),no range weapon will make him useless with a single immobilized roll. In despite of his flaws he can put stress on the opponent who are afraid to lose his Land raider or his bunker.
Staff Combo: with cutter running after tank protecting flank and lock unit if necessary.Rating: *****

DefilerThe fragility of the AV 12 in this edition make me reluctant to take it. It was not my first choice, but the facts it may take a power scourge he can also take dirge caster I tried it a couple of time and it was cool with fleet is a wonderful counter charge. I also try him with 2x havoc launcher and warpflame you could be surprise how much is efficiency you will put Warpflame on the whole table, try to tag 2 units with same template. I kill like 200 pts of Blood Angel just with warpflame lol.

Combo staff : 2x Havoc 1x fist, warpflame. As daemon he can also use the rule of the book of the true name Chaos daemon artifact a 3++ walker is sad.

Rating: *** or **** much depends on the enemy listChaos Land RaiderA 230 pts, 20 pts is less expensive than its loyalist counterpart but you will not benefit from the machine spirit rule, you carry 2 figure less and more importantly you do not have the famous multi- melta 10 pts which is often a threat. In short it is a land raider for everything that has his , but it have no particular flavor. Effective against swarm armies , but a lot less against list with suicide melta (sternguard, termicide, karskin etc almost all army can have one for cheap, cheaper than your LR).

Combo : may serve as a transport Death star (expression used to describe a former elite devastating units : chosen, termi etc and / or serve as a cover for another unit as Maulerfiend Demon prince Etc. I personally use my Lascanon in snap shot against flyer is the same as shoot a rhino at tis time and Str 9 hit flyer as hell, build a meat shield of 6 inch for denied the suicide squad.

Rating: ****

Chaos VindicatorAt 120 pts is really a boon wich can support the upgrade of demonic possession . A respectable addition to a list.Combo: Demonic Possession and the addition of a secondary weapon will greatly increase the duration of your firepower one do so. Not recommended for foot army scattering is sad.

Rating: ****

Chaos PredatorIf the Space Wolf on the predator autocannon heavy bolter are the less expensive of the entire game Chaos Space Marine on the predator combined laser cannon and laser cannon sponsons cheaper 140pts, which it tend to became a standard cost through 6th . A good support unit.

Combo : as described full laser cannon behind the defense lines .Rating: ****

TRANSPORT DESIGNATEDRhinoThe good old butter box has little need of description , good for added survivability has a squad is from the 6th edition of a poor addition to a CC unit.Combo : Used sparingly in reserve avoiding to give a too easy a first blood.Rating: ***
Wargear
Melee weapon .........
Chain axe *
Power weapon ****
Lightning Claw ***** ( A must for your champion )
Power fist ****
Weapon firing .............
Combi- bolter * ( must live with : ()
Combi- weapon ***** ( to live with) )Plasma gun (not even Asterix the worst shit ever ! !) I hate it deeply
Weapon Terminator ..........
Chain fist ****
Special Equipment ..........
bubonic grenade *****
Melta bombs ***** ( easier than before touching the walker and vehicle)
Jet pack****
Chaos bike *****
Sigil of Corruption *****
Awards Chaos ........
Blood toxin *( fluff style)
gift of mutation*** ( fluff style) only on Lords
Aura of dark glory *Combat Familiar * ( fluff style) fun conversion
spell Familiar **** ( fluff style) fun conversion
Disc tzeentch ****
Palanquin of nurgle ****
Juggernaut of khorne *****
Mount Slaanesh ****
Artifacts of Chaos ......
Key dimensions *
Brand of Skalathrax ***
Axe Blind Fury ***** ( but not DP )
Black mace **** ( best on a DP )
Sword of murder * ( FLUFF, or can be use as denying weapon )
Scroll Magnus ** (if only the sorcerer was not only 2 wound )
Mark of Chaos ........
Performance really depends on the units , but in general I prefer Nurgle and khorne
Vehicle equipment ....
Dirge caster ** only land raider
Warpflame Gargoyle ****
Missile Havoc **** good especially combined with the gargoyle good boost againt swarm
Demonic possession *** (only vindicator )
destroyers blades *
Bulldozer blades *****
Combi- weapon *
Siege Shield *

there is what I think the codex if you have other tactics experience, I invite you to the post them. I hope to post help new chaos player I tried to remain objective as possible even if it is sometimes difficult.

CSM REVIEW and combo PART 3 FAST

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:58:00 +0000

Fast AttackRaptorsThe raptor are a good choice at my opinion. Now with the Fear rule 5x raptor with meltagun will cost the same as a squad of termiticide (3x termi combi-melta no upgrade tank busting base on chance). Raptor Sacrificed the resilience of the terminator for the mobility of the jump pack .
Tips : I just opt for Terminator squad. Otherwise 10xraptor , 2x melta, Mark of khorne , melta bombs, seems a very decent combo P.S ( they will be more sensitive to the template force 8 AP3.
Rating: ***Warp Talon
Another new unit ,I would like, but the unit in fact cant not even have melta bombs, and their price is leaning me towards the raptor. Warp talon are small anti marine unit but the suffer of a lack of versatility and resilience (small groups).
Rating: **Spawn of ChaosMuch better than before, they lost their randomness. Can easily be used as life pool for Lord or sorcerer ( meat shield ). They also constitute a good and a fast lock unitsCombo Personal : Unmark with chaos lord of khorne with juggernaut or MoN T6 is awesome with an Undivided sorcerer on bike.Rating: ****HelldrakeNews chaos model who can only please his mother. More expensive than my Valkyrie vendetta, who is under cost btw. He will bring a lot of wine from your opponent, losing unit in one shot is not often a pleasant thing. Dare to think to buy the Hades Autocanon is pure heresy, unless you have already two with flamer. Until his FACT the turret head make him more dangerous than never, he can also do a vector strike learn to use it well. More he ignore stun shaken and he as a 5++. Unfortunately I hate the look of the model and I hated painting it and be careful is a fragile model is so unpleasant.
Personal Combo : 1x flamer bale

Rating:*****

Battle report CSM VS ELDAR 3k 6th Edition

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:01:00 +0000

Hi, like a posted earlier, I tried my CSM list against Eldars. This is my first battle report, all your comments will be appreciate.

I tried to be the more precise as possible , Me and my opponent play since 2004 and we keep doing mistake with 3 edition rule book in mind its sometimes confusing.

In ours gamming group we rarely make spamming (action to use more than twice the same units beside the troops) list, because we like to enjoy the vision of a bunch of different model on the table.

The playlist who powered this game: http://songza.com/listen/the-pursuit-of-vikings-epic-battle-metal-songza-1/

First lets start with the presentation of the armies.

Here we have my organisation forces

CSM 3k

HQ: Starscreams: Daemon Prince (1 , 230 pts)
Gift of Mutation;Power Armour; Wings;Daemon of Tzeentch
HQ: Huron Blackheart (1 , 160 pts)
Warlord

HQ: Darn the Mystic: Sorcerer (1 , 170 pts)

Bolt Pistol; Force Axe;Power; Increase Mastery Level (x2); Chaos Bike; Sigil of
Corruption; Twin-Linked Boltgun (x1); Spell Familiar;

Elite: Kajak The Doomed: Helbrute (1 , 100 pts)Multi-melta; Power Fist;Elite: Sons of the Cyclops: Chaos Terminators (5 , 234 pts)Terminator Armour; Mark of Tzeentch; Power axe (x5);
Combi-Plasmagun (x5); Veterans of the Long War

Troops: The Worms: Chaos Cultists (35 , 162 pts)

Improvised Armour; Autopistol (x31); Close Combat Weapon (x34); Flamer (x3)

Troops: 1st Squad Pon 1: Chaos Space Marines (11 , 300 pts)

Mark of Khorne; Bolt Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Close Combat Weapon (x9); Meltagun; Meltagun;Veterans of the Long War Icon of Wrath; Power Axe (x1); Melta Bombs

Chaos Rhino

Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Warpflame Gargoyles; Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher;

Troops: 2nd Squad Pon 1: Chaos Space Marines (11 , 300 pts)

Mark of Khorne; Bolt Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Close Combat Weapon (x9); Meltagun; Meltagun;Veterans of the Long War Icon of Wrath; Power Axe (x1); Melta Bombs

Chaos Rhino

Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Warpflame Gargoyles; Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher;

Troops: 3rd Squad Pon 1: Chaos Space Marines (11 , 300 pts)

Mark of Khorne; Bolt Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Close Combat Weapon (x9); Meltagun; Meltagun;Veterans of the Long War Icon of Wrath; Power Axe (x1); Melta Bombs

Chaos Rhino

Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Warpflame Gargoyles; Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher;

Fast Attack: Project No 13: Chaos Spawn (5 , 180 pts)
Mark of Nurgle;

Fast Attack: The warp Dust bikers: Chaos Bikers (5 , 210 pts)
Mark of Slaanesh; Bolt Pistol (x4); Close Combat Weapon (x2); Plasma gun (x2);Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Icon of Excess; Lightning Claw (x1) Veterans of the Long War

Fast Attack: BlackSun: Helldrake (1 , 170 pts)
Baleflamer;

Heavy Support: Fury: Maulerfiend (1 , 125 pts)

Heavy Support: Hate: Chaos Predator (1 , 140 pts)
Twin-Linked Lascannon; Lascannon (each side)

Heavy Support: Havocs Team Pon 1: Havocs (5 , 128 pts)

Autocannon (x4)

Aegis Defence Lines (1 , 85 pts)

Icarus lascanon

Eldars 3k

HQ: Eladrad Ulthran (1 , 205 pts)

HQ: Warlock Council (3 , 120 pts)

3x signing spear

Elite: Fire Dragons (6 , 255 pts)

Wave Serpent

TL Scatter laser, Holo-Fields

Elite: Wraithguard (10 , 320 pts)

Wraithcanon

Elite: Striking Scorpions (7 , 179 pts)

Scorpion's Claw, crushing blow

Troops: Windrider Jetbike Squad (6 , 122 pts)

Shuriken canon X2

Troops: Dire Avengers (10 , 130 pts)

Troops: Guardian Defenders (11 , 255 pts)

Scatter Laser

Wave Serpent

TL Scatter laser, Holo-Fields

Troops: Guardian Defenders (11 , 255 pts)

Scatter Laser

Wave Serpent

TL Scatter laser, Holo-Fields

Fast Attack: Warp Spiders (6 , 159 pts)

Fast shot

Fast Attack: Viper Squadron (2, 160 pts)

Holo-Fields, 2x Starcanon

Fast Attack: Crimson Hunter Exarch (1 , 180 pts)

Heavy Support: Fire Prism (1 , 150 pts)

Holo-Fields

Heavy Support: Fire Prism (1 , 150 pts)

Holo-Fields

Heavy Support: Dark Reapers (5 , 222 pts)

Fast shot

Mission (5) Will of the Emperor

Deployment (3) Vanguard Strike

CSM Warlord Trait: Master of Deception

Eldars Warlord Traits: An Eye on Distant events

CSM goes first

Powers and gift

CSM

Daemon Prince Gift of Mutation: Bloated

Eldars

CSM Deployment

Objective: Impaled fire warrior ( cut the charge distance by half)

Huron join cultist

Chaos Sorcerer join Spawn

Sons of the Cyclops: Chaos Terminators: Deep strike

1st Squad Pon 1: Chaos Space Marines: Reserve

2nd Squad Pon 1: Chaos Space Marines: infiltrate

The warp Dust bikers: Chaos Bikers: Reserve

Havocs Team Pon 1: Havocs: Infiltrate

Eldars Deployment

Objective: Dead terminator from Space hulk (reroll 1 in shooting)
Eldrad join Wraithguard
warlock are spread among the troop
Crimson Hunter Exarch: Reserve
Warp Spiders: Deep strike

Infiltrate

Eldars first deployed Scorpion in ruins in his zone

CSM deployed Havoc in the highest building and a rhino on his right flank

1st Turn

no initiative steal

no night fight

CSM Moves

First I would put some pressure on my opponent so I moved forward with 2 rhino, disembarked from one in order to rapid fire the Scorpions squad. Moving forward with my Maulerfiend and using the cover. Move my spawns forward confident with my feel no pain spell. I flew my Daemon prince behind my rhino in case he's crash (changing in the same time the main axe of my advance). I also move my Hellbrute in order too hide him in the city, when the time to run will comes. And finally I boost my Helldrake in expectation to get the first blood by using daemonforge no matter if I lose him after.(balls move)

CSM Shooting

Run my Hellbrute in cover

There a brilliant example of the expression all plans are good until the first bullet are shot. God damn this is my rapid fire against Scorpions. My melta in gold, you will see I often use my gold dice for special weapons. In fact I have so many silly roll these days.

I could kill 2 Scorpion with 2x havoc launcher putting them under the warpflame but is extinguish.Wave serpent soak all my Lascanon, but at least I got the first blood by wrecking a Wave Serpent of the fire dragon with my Autocanons, really out of my expectation last few game they haven't do the job (ref my rapid fire ;p). Note disembarking fire dragon cut their mobility yes, but not that much with the new Eldars rule Battle focus they stay a high treats.

Finally I Burn down 6 out of 10, using Daemon forge, Wraithguards with my Helldrake, the first blood already banked, I would reduce another high treat Wraithguard/Eldrad Deathstars.

And no assault

1st Turn

Buff: Fortune and conceal

Eldars moves

Eldars can do a good using spells, mainly because they a made for that so my opponent try to mesmerized me with all his fairy dust ;p no seriously he boost his squad and back his Fire Dragon probably in order to keep his wild card in his sleeves. He move one of his Dire Avengers squad in order to release an iron rain on me.

He also move his jetbikes on my flank, maybe a deception move.

Eldars Shooting

Bringing down my Helldrake and greatly reduce my Havocs team but not enough to reduce their efficiency. After a lot of shot, Eldars could claim the air superiority. He also rip apart my faux berserker squad killing 5 of them with AP2 ( I was shock).

And no assault end of Turn 1

2nd Turn

Reserve: Chaos terminator arrived to reinforce the feba (Forward Edge of Battle Area) and scattered enough to be out of my rapid fire range, my goal was plasma burn his deathstars

Buff: FNP on spawn again

CSM moves

I decided to save the furniture with my marine squad, who was cut in half by Eldars Mach3 munitions, by embarking them in my rhino. I jumped in my Prince in order to assault Scorpions. I moved my spawns in the forest to grant them cover (they need it lack of armor svg), I also moved my Maulerfiend behind the second rhino granting him with a 4+ cover. I kept my Hellbrute hidden in case of a eldar want to flank.

CSM Shooting

I blew up the Guardians Wave Serpent with my Havocs Team and I shoot has hell Havoc launchers on them, what it does a lot of havoc when you think about It, and I killed 2 guy with warpflame for sure. I had so well hide my Hellbrute I forgot to shoot with him :S. I also made a mistake I used the rapid fire bolter on fire dragon with my terminator instead shooting my plasma, I would keep it for later, I should see this coming.....

CSM Assault

Like you guess I assault Scorpions with my DP causing them a terrible laugh, fuck only 1 and 2 on the roll again, I presume chaos god had a greater plan behind this.

2nd Turn

Reserve: Warp spiders tried to deepstrike behind the Hellbrute, but scatter on him getting delay.

Buff: Boost conceal and divination on Deathstars squad

Eldars moves

No pic available I forget sorry (anyway you will se it on next picture)

The Eldars player decide to consolidate in a view of annihilate the treat.

Eldars Shooting

And tremendous amount of fire power pulverized, maybe vaporized, my terminator, my rhino and my marine squad at the point my champion decide it was too much for him and take the path of the home to open a beer and forget what just happened. Eldars also shoot my Maulerfiend with his Fire Dragon who walked trough the fire of the wave serpent, resulting in one glance thanks to the daemon rule. In the chaos of the action Fire Dragon forgot to use their battle focus rule to move back.

Eldars Assault

My prince kill the Exarch that's it !

3rd Turn

Reserve: All missed

Buff: FNP on Spawn

CSM moves

First I moved my Hellbrute on the flank in order to hit the Fire Prism with my multi-melta. I also pushed forward my Maulerfiend to prepare my assault against the Deathstars and I finally moved toward the Fire Dragon with my Spawns and my rhino.

CSM shooting

I had some trouble to find fire power after the Eldar's blister, all my shooting only slightly damages my foe

CSM Assault

like you will see in the Eldars move picture, I literally smash the fire warrior with the wrath of my Spawns lab project then reorganize in ruins and on the smoking falcon. My Daemon Prince kill the last Scorpion in a minor effort and consolidated under the cover provided by the rhino. I assaulted the Deathstars hoping to instant kill Eldrad or more reasonably lock him for some turn and guess what I missed all my attacks, again. Hopefully this squad have hard time versus walker it doesn't damage me neither.

3rd Turn

Reserve: Warp Spiders deepstrike behind my Hellbrute and the Crimson Hunter arrived rushing toward my defensive position.(my intercept does a glance)

Buff: Fortune and conceal

Eldars moves

The Eldars felling the threat brought by my monstrous spawns he moved in order to stop this insanity rampage.

Eldars Shooting

The Warp Spiders wreck my Hellbrute without efforts, but....

In despite of all probability my spawns soak an abnormal HUGE numbers of wounds, thank to the cover+ High toughness+ FNP, I knew the chaos god had a greater plan for me ;). Eldars so disturb by what happened forgot to use his battle focus.

Eldars Assault

Finally the death stars cause 2 more glance at my Maulerfiend wrecking it.

4th Turn

Reserve: Chaos biker arrived and the last marine squad also.

Buff: FNP on Spawn

CSM moves

Prince jumped over the ruins near the Guardian squad my spawns move deep in the enemy line crossing my finger the chaos good continue to bless them

CSM shooting

Sadly nothing much to say I missed my melta in a rear armour causing 1 weapon destroyed with my bike and 1 glance with my marine. I burn the majority of the Wapr Spider with my Havoc launcher and the rapid fire of the rhino, Only the Exarch survived he got mark by warpflame, but he soak the wound with his armor save. I gain a wound with my sorcerer, I lose one from dangerous terrain earlier.

CSM Assault

My prince bring death among the guardian, but they stand the ground. I made a balls move with my spawns making a multiple assault locking the Dire Avenger squad, the Dark Reaper and the Windrider. Eldar players couldn't do anything against T6 he decide to use the 'our weapon are useless' rule, sadly it wasn't a real good thing for him the Dire Avenger run off the table the Dark Reaper got wiped and the Windrider could escaped.

4th Turn

Buff: Fortune and conceal

Eldars moves

The Eldar who was harass everywhere decided to face the new incoming threat and come back with Eldrad to punish the DP for his crimes.

Eldars Shooting

The Eldars shoot at he bike killing 2 of them thank you jinks and FNP and the DP suffer of one wound. Eldars have also ripped apart my spawn squad, all good things come to end I suppose.At the end of his shooting phase the warpflame kill the Spider Exach (if you remember my havoc launcher who cost me 51pts (36+15) kill 8 Guardian average 72pts, 2x Scorpions 34pts and 6 Spider 159pts TOTAL 265pts, this combo doe it more than often.)

Eldars Assault

no assault this time

5th Turn

CSM moves

My move was pretty short I disembarked from the rhino in order to score the objective, I pushed forward with my rhino and place my bike and my prince ready for assault.

CSM shooting

my Shooting was also short because my forces was greatly reduce and the rest of it was not in line of sight.

CSM Assault

the assault part wasn't that hot but it was wise I killed the last Troop, Windrider with my DP, denying the possibility to my opponent to score, I had also assault prism with my bike making a glance with my melta bomb and I finally destroyed the scatter laser on the last Wave Serpent.

5th Turn

Buff: Fortune and conceal

Eldars moves

Eldars move his Fire Prisms in order to shoot my cultist than push the gas to denied my objectives ( I respect the tactics, but thing goes wrong and he got immobilized in the cover).He move his vipers in order to shoot my bikes and he make a fancy dancing move with his Crimson Hunter to shoot my Space marines squad where he put a X of death zone whit his Wave Serpent. He bring Eldrad and the few remains of the Wraithguard and Guardians near to assault my Prince.

Eldars Shooting

With the Flyers and his Wave Serpent he killed 3 out of 5 of my CSM squad they answer I don't give a shit of your bullet and they stay there. He also killed 2 out of 3 of my bike with his Vipers and Prism and my bike had the same answer of my CSM squad.

Eldars Assault

When things goes wrong they come in packs Eldrad who statistically kill my Prince easily got Smash by him (what is instant killed him), I presume Tzeencth trick his minds.

Conclusion

Face of the impossibility to wins the Eldars player give up. Here is a picture of the end games state. I was pretty satisfied to win my first battle report on my blog particularly against a army list who already had rapped me ....Literally.

My list pro and cons

Pro

High maneuverability
resilient fast attack made it T6 spawns with force multiplier does it
Prince build this way can do it, but stay low profile more as possible in a first turn

Cons

Don't buy dozer blade could screw my plan more than often
Mediocre deployment for my fire base
a small amounts of troops for 3k games

CSM REVIEW and combo PART 3 ELITE

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:12:00 +0000

ELITE
Cult marine : the cult marine are pretty useless as elite choice but can be considerate to be used as Troops which is pretty nice for thematic army.

Khorne Berserkers
melee space marine, far to be my first choice they will cost almost the same price as faux berserker (CSM mark, icon and extra CC) in fact you exchange your special weapon for a fearless and a 5CC.

For option you have chain axe, but is a trap don't bother improve their efficiency against trash infantry 4+ svg and a 5CC is pretty useless. In fact 5CC is good against marine... only marine because you will hit on 3+ on all other units and don't forget VoTLW will already give you an edge against marine. You also have plasma pistol did a really need to explain why is bad (I would be cool if they could increase your base str to 7)Combo staff : None maybe in a land raider if they count as troop

evaluation *

Thousand Sons
they have bolter AP3 and can lock a elite AP 3 squad. Their lack of special weapons it is a flaw. Personally more fluffy than efficient.Staff Combo: they probably more efficient with an extra caster in the squad in order to increase their fire and combat reliability.

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Plague Marines
Probably the best choice and is one of the most often seen on the table around 60 point over a faux plagues marine. They have special weapons, they are poison in CC (reroll against most of the troop in the game), they are resilient as hell and a crappy icon ;p but who care. In fact the only things to consider is to buy a Nurgle chaos lord which is one of the best lords anyway if you spent points of course.Combo staff : 10 x 2x plasmagun (FNP help get hot) rhino , champion power fist (you will strike last anyway).

evaluation *****

Noise Marines
Their lack of special weapons is compensate by their sonic weapon although the Blastmaster is too expensive in my opinion. A good shooting forces strong enough to rip apart swarm cover lover(IG) .Combo staff : 20 x marine noises , sonic blaster 18x ,2 blasmaster, 1x champion doom siren , claws, icon of excess.

Tips try to boost them with slaneesh sorcerer it will worth it (boost sonic str, relentless in biomancy too)

evaluation ****

Mutilators
New units sacrifices shooting ability of obliterators for a better CC option, but they have some HUGE FLAW terminator will do the same job for almost the same price and cant be instant death, obliterator will also do almost the same job for a minor point investment. For the moment they are a only a minor cost saver. Combo staff : try them with a dark apostle.(pretty shame unit)

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Possessed
Much more reliable than before, good punch on the average Infantry ( Space Marine ) but their lack of shooting make put them in the bottom of the barrel and is sad because is probably one of the most good looking unit GW ever did. they are quickly replaced by alternative elite .Staff Combo: with apostle

evaluation *

Terminators
A little more expensive than before 1 pt, still polyvalent as before, can still serve as a termiticide for 115 pts for 3 with combi - weapon (melta) . They can destroy something almost systematically thanks to their combi - weapon and occupy the enemy for some time after. Is a really good game changer breaking the enemy line often the opponent need to go back or slow his advance to kill them have terminator behind the line is not really appreciated mainly when your weakest CC units are there.Combo Personal : Termi 5x , 1x power axe , 3x power fist , 1x power axe, 5x combi - plasma, marke of tzeentch (my one men army killer team(MC, character elite etc)) ho! and plasma will destroy almost any amour in the rear if you don't have death star to kill)

evaluation *****

Chosen
Chosen are great expensive but great. In many forum it is suggest to play them as shooting strike forces what at my first glance was the logical thing to do. After many games with them carrying 5x flamer or 5x plasma, I try to figured out how to play them in CC. They are good in cc with 2 base atk 3 with CC weapon acess of VOTLW rule, mark and icon(5x atk on charge at str 5 is amazing). So I tried full CC with power weapon mark of khorne and icons it was aggressive but their lack of maneuverability was a real flaws so a try them with an half and half pattern. 3x melta with 1x power axe and a champion with power axe and combi-melta it was good really good but with a force multiplier like a chaos sorcerer in termi armor lv 3 in a LR it became a real death star. you have 2x power axe 1x force axe , 2 different kind of armor (handy for challenge) 1 axe who cant be challenge and 4 melta to damage strong foe or melt tank before charge. Like a said is a death star near 600 pts with the LR but it will rip apart almost any foe.

In a Black legion army one CC chosen, two plasma squad and a cultist troop is good at 3k game and very dangerous for nidzilla army.(like 15 plasma with the termi squad)

evaluation *****

Hellbrute

Hellbrute suffer of a bad reputation maybe is the scars of the past codex but a really enjoy them you need to see him like a psychological diversion instead of complaining he can do the job. keep him stock I tried plasma scourge setup is not a bad one but is not so handy. With his power fist he has str 10 so he cant insta kill lot of foe and armour and with his multi-melta your opponent will leave ine the fear to loose his LR by a 100pts model. Your opponent will shoot at him because is a mistake to let a dreadnought go free runner let you time to place other things where you want them. with the new vehicle cover rule a tiny hellbrute is cool and plus the model is awesome. In conclusion a hellbrute will protect your flank, be a counter-atk a tank nemesis and a possible instant death on the table at my opinion it worth 100 pts.

evaluation ****

CSM REVIEW and combo PART 2 TROOPS

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 15:49:00 +0000

I wont cover elite possibility as troop here. I will cover these options in the elite part.

TROOPS are probably the less well cover subject in forum, I personally think many players don't really know how to manage it. Due of theirs great flexibility is kind of hard to find the perfect match.

CSM (Chaos Space Marine)
CSM are a unique troops choices theirs complexity make them vulnerable to complaints. But what is really makes them different, lets pass trough this.

First you can make squad of 20 which is not allowed in loyalist codex, is a good option mainly if you want focus on foot army (fabius style) it will take an eternity to kill if you have force multiplier like caster, apostle or lord and can assure the control of the center of the map. More you have marines more your icons goes cheap, but don't forget icons can be snipe.

second you have the possibility to play with CC and bolter option , add CC weapon or swap your bolter for it. Its a game about points so it is often seems to be useless but and extra CC atk is more than often appreciate its save squad and give you time to plan. You can also buy VoTLW (veteran of the long war rule) which will give you and edge over Standard tactical squad for the same price as your loyalist brother and increase your Ld what is pretty useful.

second you have mark and Icon which is the cream on the sundae, expensive but sometimes pretty handy.

Mark of Tzeench is probably the weakest one for these squad. Grant you a 6++ is pretty useless the icon is kind of cool but you have to mark them so it make it overprice
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Mark of Slaneesh is not a bad one it will increase your edge over your loyalist brother, but it will also make them though if you but the icons (pretty resilient for objective camping), but if you want camp consider buying plague marine.
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Mark of Nurgle is another good choice giving your troop survivability against small arms and CC squad they have a crappy icon so don't bother to buy it.(good for the price)
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Mark of Khorne is probably my favorite these days giving you a solid charge (+2 atk with power weapons), the icons its revealed to be very handy re-roll charge is good damn good missing my charge it piss me so off it is probably why I like it and you get furious charge so your power axe are will wound on 2+ any T4.
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Icon of Vengeance I personally think is a bit overpriced for what is does mainly because if you think you will save on the VoTLW, don't forget icons can be snipe.
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Also don't forget Icons will boost your combat result by 1 which is a nice to have sometimes.

Synergy :

Challenge : CSM are more offensive than their loyalist brother is often the case in our codex, it is probably why you wondering (why am so fuck with the champion rule) you need to learn how you can play with this rule or you will be fuck all time
Ex
champion against Noob = screw
champion against Sgt marine at same initiative = srew if he have claws he will probably kill you even if you kill him
champion against IG= you will be lock forever and lose atk power (shame nothing can be do)

The most sad it you will lose a combat turn to kill a crappy character. Too avoid that

1:try to charge far as possible from his leader, don't forget he will move forward 3 inch if he's I4

2: put your leader in a rear of your charge, try 8-9 inch, in the moving phase, so at the start of the combat you cant issue challenge because you wont be in base contact

3: the opponent cant issue challenge too because you are not in the 2 inch of the base line.

4: with the pile in at each combat phase, you will pile in 3 inch at I1 with your axe or fist and reach the magic 2inch of base line so you can swing your power Atk and avoid challenge you will also maybe kill he's Sgt because the opponent will remove normal marine first at I4.

Rhino option : rhino are great they protect your troop,use them with havoc and warpflame and dozer blade kind of expensive but if you have the point it worth it especially if you have 3 or more of them. With the rhino you have also draw back
they give first blood what (is a shame) and hope your enemy blow it if you want charge next turn, explosion which it can goes bad a lot of wound, a lots of random miss armor save can be sad.

Staff Combo: 10x marines, weapons CC MoK, 2x melta Champion with power axe, melta bomb, Veterans of the long war, Icon of wrath . Rhino
evaluation ****

Cultists
cultist are pretty useful they provide us with a lot of spongy meat they lock well and they lock hard (mainly the zombie) am use to use one big squad because each time you play one you need to give them fearless. One will do the work. You can also mark them but its a bad idea keep them good on what they are die.

you can gear them with gun or CC weapon it is a taste choice lasgun will provide a lot of dice and this is a game where lots of dice is better than quality dice mainly if your are a lord sixensen (a guy who can roll 10x6 on a roll of 15).

Personally I rather prefer play them with CC option and flamer giving them a decent overwatch they will have a tremendous number of atk on charge. (like 105 dice)

Zombies they make leak lots of ink yeah they are good, but two question you should ask yourself did a want Typhus and did I will try get objective with my zombies, because Slow and purposeful rule will avoid you to run and is sad when your are stuck in cover trying save the game by reaching objectives.

Combo Staff: 35x cultist with a lord or a unique character. Behind the Aegis defense line.

evaluation ****

CSM REVIEW and combo PART 1 HQ

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 01:21:00 +0000

I read some good reviews on the web, but my opinion diverged a little bit, so I decided to write my own review of the CSM codex in order to help new players.

Units will be rate by their capacity to be competitive.

***** super competitive
****   challenging
***     solid choice
**       not first choice
*         not recommended

HQ

Lords of Chaos
A good economic HQ, he can be a very challenging foe. Less resilient than his loyalist brother but more fierce in attack. Consider to invest in a Demon weapon and in a mount.

Favorite combo: Lord mark of khorne on juggernaut, axe of blind fury, melta bomb, gift of mutation (optional extra) or motorcycle mark of Nurgle Black mace, melta bombs.

evaluation *****

Chaos Sorcerer
Much more a offensive unit than a defensive unit, malleable with a wound and a attack less, is not fearless, but can be on a motorcycle or get terminator armor.

Combo: psyker lv 3 undivided (the cheapest possible), or terminal armor, sigil power axe psyker lv3.Favorite combo: in termi armour with chosen of khorne in LR (really nasty but expensive) . You can try to get invisibility and cast it on your LR or go for Biomancy trying get Iron arms or Endurance. I prefer to go bio, at my opinion you have 1out of 3 chance to get a good spell, enfeeble, iron arm or endurance, than telepathy where the only one you really want is invisibility and for the other spell most of army have high command or counter lack of command (I dunno why)

evaluation ****

Daemon Prince
More expensive and more powerful than before, unfortunately also more fragile than before. He Can fully enjoy the black mace because he AP 2. A real magnet shooting (shame but understandable)

Combo staff: daemon of Tzeentch or Khorne with the black mace, wings, power armor. Can serve as a firing platform with spell and brand of skalabraxx is not recommanded).My best guess only power armour wings MoT keep him cheap as possible you will lose him

his T5 will be lethal for him
Rating: **

Warpsmith
A beautiful model made for a defensive list, not expensive, but I still find it difficult to see an effective way to play. Personal opinion thematic rather than competitive.

Combo staff: behind the lines with vindicator and defiler. To be use in daemon engine list

evaluation *

Dark apostle
Interesting unit (especially in a conversion way, the base model is so ugly, Mr. I got caught in the toilet paper). Interesting rule, but quickly replaced by a lord of chaos or a unique character that will give your fearless cultist plus a kick to them in CC that the apostle does not do, but his passive will.

Staff Combo: in cultist squad or possess

Abbadon
A terrible warlord who cant be match easily in W40k. It transforms chosen troupe and gives preferred enemy it is nice with plasma units. His lack of mobility it is severely adverse. It seems design for a game over 2k pts.

Combo staff: With chosen slaneesh because Abbadon can enjoy any icon. put him in a land raider, or cheapest terminator of slaneesh combi-plasma icon. Or with obliterator of nurgle giving them fearless and a really dangerous shooting skill (warlord Trait).(WTF twin link bolter can he even sign for inferno bolts at the QM?)

evaluation ****

Huron
Perfect in a thematic, Undivided, he is probably one of the most profitable HQ for the points cost . His free magic and his wargear make him a good choice, but don't forget he can be instant killed. His warlord trait is by far one of the best you could wish. He will often be compare to Kharn but the only real difference is kharn offensive skill versus defensive skill form Huron.

Combo staff: With cultists for his fearless and magic that can strengthen and ability in hand-to-hand combat.

evaluation *****

Fabius Bile
Used in a thematic Undivided, he is probably one of the less expensive special HQ if you deduct the cost of an icon of revenge. His lack of good AP in CC (and shooting) is sorely default, liabilities remains thematic rather than competitive.

Staff Combo: With cultists for his fearless, and a big squad of s5 fearless marine, if you want to swarm.

evaluation *

Kharn the Betrayer (or the man who never misses )
Used in a theme of Khorne is a live demon prince trapped in a human body with the almost same strike force plus the anger I guess. His warlord traits is a good one. It has a liability that is not negligible against the Psyker .

Combo staff: With cultists for his fearless in rush up, you can add Huron to push Kharn in infiltrate with all its cultist; p

evaluation *****

Ahriman
Can be used in a Tzeentch thematic is one of the most powerful psyker in the galaxy, (but cant use divination wtf!!) in attack he can give a unit a boost to fire and thus offset the lack of special weapon of a single Thousand sons squad, it is essentially remain the same that before, but it gives an interesting warlord trait especially for an fire power based army .

Combo staff: With thousand Sons flank attack.

evaluation **

Typhus
Ah Typhus by far one of my preferred, high cost may be, but offset by a myriad of troops at a lower cost, with 4 PV T5 FNP, terminator armor and a weapon it can eat soul, he's relentless especially in a squad of 35 zombies. Its only flaw it his warlord trait.(beware to being smash by MC or walker in CC)

Combo staff: With zombies to everything and lock them hard

evaluation *****

Lucius The Eternal
Ah, Lucius I would love him I really like the model, but he is barely decent. He has a doom siren, he is still good for his cost, in a noise marine thematic he can work I see him enjoy the feel no pain and boost the a wall of sound. It is suppose to be the master of the duel, but I have not had the chance to test it.(I doubt I will match his equivalent point cost)

Combo staff: With 20x marine noises

evaluation **

Troops

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:41:00 +0000

This is my undivided csm squad i can change mark by swaping their magnet icon. Lot of them like sadly the most of my army had lot of fix. I magnet all my special weapon am pretty please of that.

Daemon Engine

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:21:00 +0000

Some others pic of my main army

Monogod list KHORNE

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:32:00 +0000

Assault is dead in this edition you will often hear it sometimes by people you never had an assault army. Armoured army and base line army have the edge you will hear that too. In facts
Is true but not is not black or white like that armoured have been nerf a better cover but the poison gift of HP (is say poison in comparison of what it was, my personal opinion its is correct now). Base line are strong true but they suffer of deep battle power and if you are enable to make a base line player play your game instead of his he will often have big trouble, in general because base line player are cozy in this kind of game stay chill and roll shooting. The assault army flaw are just more apparent you can be screw in the open and die by fire without any chance of survive. But you have the power to lock the best units denying the plan of your opponents. The key for assault army is TARGET SATURATION if you have so many units rushing at him he will need to make choice and to be successful you need to have credible choice faux zerker can screw your day, Spawns, Maulerfiend and lords too. lock your opponent with your fast support them with your solid troop and HQ and work behind the line with outflank deepstrike units (daemon, termi, raptor etc). Assault is not dead it can be savages, but will need a brain to make sure you have wind in your back.

HQ: Kharn the Betrayer (1 , 160 pts)
Warlords

HQ: Chaos Lord (1 , 190 pts)

Melta Bombs; Sigil of Corruption; Gift of Mutation; Juggernaut of Khorne; Axe of Blind Fury;

Veterans of the Long War

Elite: Helbrute (1 , 120 pts)Plasma Cannon; Power Scourge;
Troops: Chaos Space Marines (10 , 238 pts)

Mark of Khorne; Bolt Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Close Combat Weapon (x9); Flamer; Flamer;

Veterans of the Long War Icon of Wrath; Lightning Claw (x1);Melta Bombs;

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (10 , 238 pts)

Mark of Khorne; Bolt Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Close Combat Weapon (x9); Flamer; Flamer;

Veterans of the Long War Icon of Wrath; Lightning Claw (x1);Melta Bombs; Troops: Chaos Cultists (35 , 167 pts)Flamer (x3)
Fast Attack: Heldrake (1 , 170 pts)Baleflamer;
Fast Attack: Chaos Spawn (5 , 150 pts)
Fast Attack: Chaos Bikers (5 , 195 pts)Mark of Khorne;Icon of Wrath; Lightning Claw (x1);Melta Bombs;Meltagun(x2)

Heavy Support: Havocs (5 , 115 pts)Autocannon (x4)

Heavy Support: Chaos Land Raider (1 , 235 pts)
Dozer Blade;
Heavy Support: Chaos Land Raider (1 , 235 pts)
Dozer Blade
Imperial Bastion (1 , 95 pts)Comms Relay

ALLIES
HQ: Bloodthirster (1 , 300 pts)
DR: Greater Rewards (x1); DR: Exalted Rewards

Troops: Bloodletters of Khorne (20 , 235 pts)
DR: Lesser Rewards (x1);DG: Banner of Blood;

Heavy Support: Soul Grinder (1 , 155 pts)
Baleful Torrent;

Tactica: is pretty simple you rush your opponent lock with your fast punch with your troop and swarm with cultists and daemons, you can also hide your BT behind your bastion (coms relay make a fast reliable support), autocanon and snap with your raider to bring down air support and use walker to kill tank. Its a pretty fun list its why I keep a bit of this in my current list.

Khorne

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:50:00 +0000

There is my Daemon of Khorne from forgeworld they are a bit old and the display will have definitely a repaint am pretty satisfied with the blood on the axe

With the Demon weapon the size matter

Tip: you can paint tongues with different color to keep track of your squad without breaking the pattern you can also spot your character with different effect on the blade.

This pattern is really fast and ink them with the spray Tamiya Smoke its make them gloss like ooze

this is my berserker squad I will probably repaint them sometimes because the ink I use is not available anymore (old citadel ink)

Daemon Glyph and bloodletters

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:47:00 +0000

I made the portal with Tamiya ink on a monolith doors I use a old 4 piece metal chaos star and skull from ruin fantasy box set its slightly bigger than a blast template

Maulerfiend

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:39:00 +0000

This is my maulerfiend I gloss the skin

As you can see the meltacutters slot fit perfectly with large magnet so you can swap with tendrils

Cultist and hellbrute

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:34:00 +0000

This is my cultist 10 out of 35 and my hellbrute I would do a plasma charge with green stuff, but I remove it and I also use often my hellbrute because I love the model

Paint Lord Chaos lord on juggernaut and spawn

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:30:00 +0000

This is my Chaos lord on juggernaut with my proxy spawn renegade chaos I love them

Abbadon Repaint

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:24:00 +0000

We all know Abbadon is kinda old fig now a friend of mine suggest to fit it on the chaos lord termi kit a pretty god idea

Skull lord Black Legion

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 18:17:00 +0000

CSM are bad !

noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:21:00 +0000

I saw so much hate toward CSM codex 6th maybe is by nostalgia, but is still a strong codex almost all in the codex is playable. I personally try to find a way to use all units in the game. I am use to play 3k with my friends each weekend. Each time with a different list or combination. I often use Chaos Daemon as ally, I tried monogod list and a lot of undivided one I have like 15k Pts Black Legion and i can say all can do the job at 3k games.

I like to play 3k game because you are a bit less screw up by spamming list because you can have a little bit of all at 3k you will have melta and you will have plasma and lose an unit by bad luck will not be a instant lose.

Yeah some units are arguably playable because you will have something's better. Living in the shadow of the helldrake is not a easy thing ;p.

But to be honest I need to say I had some trouble to see a good use of certain units like mutilator or warp Talons and I try to like the demon prince ( I often prefer invest on a lord of change)

This is what i will try next weekends.

HQ: Daemon Prince (1 , 230 pts)
Gift of Mutation;Power Armour; Wings;Daemon of Tzeentch

HQ: Huron Blackheart (1 , 160 pts)
Warlord

HQ: Sorcerer (1 , 180 pts)

Bolt Pistol; Force Axe; Melta Bombs; Increase Mastery Level (x2); Chaos Bike; Sigil of
Corruption; Twin-Linked Boltgun (x1); Spell Familiar; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space
Marines); Independent Character; Psyker (Mastery Level 3); Veterans of the Long War;

Elite: Helbrute (1 , 100 pts)
Multi-melta; Power Fist;

Elite: Chaos Terminators (5 , 262 pts)
Terminator Armour; Mark of Tzeentch; Power Fist (x5);
Combi-Plasmagun (x5); Veterans of the Long War

Troops: Chaos Cultists (35 , 165 pts)

Improvised Armour; Autopistol (x31); Close Combat Weapon (x34); Flamer (x3)

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (11 , 300 pts)

Mark of Khorne; Bolt Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Close Combat Weapon (x9); Meltagun; Meltagun;Veterans of the Long War Icon of Wrath; Power Axe (x1); Melta Bombs

Chaos Rhino

Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Warpflame Gargoyles; Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher;

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (11 , 300 pts)

Mark of Khorne; Bolt Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Close Combat Weapon (x9); Meltagun; Meltagun;Veterans of the Long War Icon of Wrath; Power Axe (x1); Melta Bombs

Chaos Rhino

Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Warpflame Gargoyles; Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher;

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (11 , 300 pts)

Mark of Khorne; Bolt Pistol (x9); Boltgun (x7); Close Combat Weapon (x9); Meltagun; Meltagun;Veterans of the Long War Icon of Wrath; Power Axe (x1); Melta Bombs

Chaos Rhino

Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Warpflame Gargoyles; Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher;

Fast Attack: Chaos Spawn (5 , 180 pts)Mark of Nurgle;

Fast Attack: Chaos Bikers (5 , 210 pts) Mark of Slaanesh; Bolt Pistol (x4); Close Combat Weapon (x2); Plasma gun (x2);Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Icon of Excess; Lightning Claw (x1) Veterans of the Long War

Fast Attack: Heldrake (1 , 170 pts)
Baleflamer;
Heavy Support: Maulerfiend (1 , 125 pts)Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1 , 140 pts)Twin-Linked Lascannon; Lascannon (each side)

Heavy Support: Havocs (6 , 128 pts)Autocannon (x4)

Aegis Defence Lines (1 , 50 pts)

Voila! I near future I want try forgefiend instead of Havoc aegis

COA

put Huron with cultist giving them fearless camping objective and clean my zone, rush with sorcerer in spawn squad Rolling in biomancy and hope got endurance and iron arms.

protect flank with hellbrute or fear assault tank with my multimelta (is will also serve to instant death T5)

protect/assault other flank with mauleurfiend

push with bike on flank and take middle with 2 marine squad and infiltrate one with warlord trait.

deepstrike terminator behind the line shooting MC of 10AV in rear

use Helldrake in deep battle killing heavy team on vector strike Plane or SA soft skin.

target armored with predator mauler

target soft skin MC and flying with Havoc

Pro: fast maneuver

Con am use to play 5 scoring at 3k