<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' gd:etag='W/&quot;D0ENQXkyeSp7ImA9WxFTFUk.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878</id><updated>2010-04-06T02:21:30.791-07:00</updated><title>Emerging Hydrogen on Demand Economic Industrial and Political Retrofit Market</title><subtitle type='html'>Technology of this type can change many things. The Economy can benefit in many ways, Big oil will shrink significantly and our Government will be affected as well. Hydrogen retrofit devices are not new, they are new to the market, and are poised to change the world.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default?redirect=false&amp;v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>23</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;DkAESHwzeip7ImA9WxRWF0k.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-8317705326547913388</id><published>2008-10-28T00:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-11-03T12:38:29.282-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-11-03T12:38:29.282-08:00</app:edited><title>Undeniable</title><content type='html'>After some months off and away from a computer, im back, and with my own laptop finally. But enough about me. Look at the title link, it goes to a pdf of dyno test results from the Automotive Testing and Development Services Inc. for a manufacturer by the name of Hydrorunner. The results are undeniable given the AT&amp;D inc. reach into both government and the private sector of automobile manufacturing, certification and regulatory testing. Their client list, besides Hydrorunner, consists of General Motors, Harley Davidson, Freight Liner, Toyota to name a few. Their offices are located nationwide in close proximity (30 miles) to C.A.R.B and E.P.A offices in Ontario, California and Ann Arbor, Michigan and some others. In short, for a common Ford F-350 deisel truck, test results averaged an 84% increase. At $3.50 a gallon for fuel that drops the price a bit below $2.00. See also http://www.automotivetesting.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-8317705326547913388?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.hydrorunner.com/data/atds.pdf' title='Undeniable'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/8317705326547913388?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/8317705326547913388?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/10/undeniable.html' title='Undeniable'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;Dk8MQ3sycSp7ImA9WxRWF0k.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-3882692068787952585</id><published>2008-07-31T16:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-11-03T12:41:22.599-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-11-03T12:41:22.599-08:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='HHo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='epa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='C.A.R.B.'/><title>Steve Gehrlein</title><content type='html'>I was tipped off by Chris to some independant test results of a man by the name of Steve Gehrlein recently. These results are good, and apparently this man is taking his work to the EPA. Studies have been done for years according to the test results PDF, which isn't really surprising considering Hy-Drive and some others have been around for as long as they have, but what is surprising is that no one else has done so. It's never too late I guess, then again EPA gives manufacturers a bit of the run around according to some that I've spoke with. As the link on the right shows Hy-drive is currently registered and ProMotors, Go Green Fuel, and Hydrogen Hybrid Tech. are currently working through C.A.R.B. testing, there might be a few more but those are the only ones I've actually talked to about it so far. This is all quite exciting coupled with the fact there are two IRS tax forms available presenting the possibility of being 100% tax deductable, varies by state I here. These results are exactly the kind of thing radio talk show guys should know about. What i do, is go to my local radio or t.v. stations website and click "contact" or "submit news", find the program director for the radio host i'm interested in hearing mention it on the air and forward a little note with the link from the "concerned citizen", given this kind of news it's hard not to look into it, some might think of it as spam and the only thing I can say to that is , not to be done in quantity.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-3882692068787952585?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.gasadvancesystem.com/Sothwest%20Research%20Test.pdf' title='Steve Gehrlein'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/3882692068787952585?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/3882692068787952585?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post.html' title='Steve Gehrlein'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;CEAHQ3c4fSp7ImA9WxdVFkQ.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-7407161361957297536</id><published>2008-07-16T16:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-21T19:12:12.935-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-21T19:12:12.935-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hydrogen retrofit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kgo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='HHo'/><title>Call your local talk radio</title><content type='html'>I live in the SF bay area and try calling KGO and KSRO amoung a few others, sometimes they'll listen and sometimes they won't. The more people who know the things this blog shows you (click the links and come back to see another) the better. The more people who understand the positive difference this technology can have, the faster it can advance into the mainstream. I urge you to start calling your local talk radio show hosts and find their position on this technology. KGO talk host Dr. Bill Wattenburg swears up and down it doesn't work, but look at the links and if that isn't enough call these companies and ask (they already get too many calls though), or better yet order one and go to your local news station or your local paper to take some reporter for a test drive of 20 miles on a half gallon of gasoline, get there with it running out of gas so they know ther is only the half gallon you put in with them there. Searching Google news for various keywords you find it's happening more an more these days. This isn't going away, jump on, before your neighbor does. The HyPowerFuel post is exactly why, or see the news clip on the right about General Motors.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-7407161361957297536?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/7407161361957297536?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/7407161361957297536?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/07/call-your-local-talk-radio.html' title='Call your local talk radio'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;AkQMSX84eyp7ImA9WxdVEkk.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-6643539573476385308</id><published>2008-07-15T14:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-16T15:46:28.133-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-16T15:46:28.133-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='HHo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stocks'/><title>HHO going off-road</title><content type='html'>I copied and pasted this portion of stock news I recieved today from my free Yahoo finance account, I found it quite interesting and thought you might too. I would've pasted the link but when i checked it, it brought you to my account, so i had to piece it together.  The rest of the news bit was about the businesses background, future, and company info stuff, and stuff. &lt;br /&gt;"Pro Motors Group, Corp. is pleased to announce that Quicksand Performance Products, a leading manufacturer and supplier to the Off-Road community, has signed on to represent the Hydro Assist Fuel Cell kit and further develop ``green'' energy options to enhance the off-road living lifestyle. Quicksand is a leading designer, manufacturer, and retailer of high-end Sand Rails and Off-Road vehicles, including the all new QSP Cobra 400 - YamaBuggy slated for release this summer. In addition Quicksand has developed their vehicle line to include Scooters, Motorcycles, and ATV's which will be available worldwide under the brand name of QSP.Regarding the Hydro Assist Fuel Cell project, Omar Deen, Owner of QSP, stated ``Our number one goal at QSP is to deliver the highest quality products that reflect my vision of performance, reliability, and safety. The Hydro Assist Fuel Cell technology is one way of enhancing our products for consumers that reduces emissions, and improves the MPG. We look forward to working on continued enhancements that benefit our loyal customers.&lt;br /&gt;Pro Motors Group, Corp. intends to acquire Hydrogen Green Fuel Technology in 2008, a company specializing in the worldwide distribution of Hydro Assist Fuel Cells (HAFC). This cost-effective and environmentally-conscious technology allows consumers to both increase the gas mileage and decrease the emissions of their vehicle. Modifications can be made on any vehicle and can increase the vehicle's fuel efficiency by 30-300%. Pro Motors Group, Corp. anticipates implementing the HAFC systems on selected vehicles for sale through Pro Motors, as well as developing dealers and distributors worldwide." &lt;br /&gt;(The future looks bright!)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-6643539573476385308?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/6643539573476385308?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/6643539573476385308?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hho-going-off-road.html' title='HHO going off-road'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;AkAGSH4zcCp7ImA9WxdVEkk.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-433951845944740433</id><published>2008-07-15T11:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-16T15:52:09.088-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-16T15:52:09.088-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hydrogen retrofit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jobs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stocks'/><title>HyPower Fuel</title><content type='html'>This PDF I found today is good news for this entire industry. It simply says HyPower Fuel and it's patented design is expected to reach their sales goal of $99,000,000 this December after having exceded all their prior quarterly goals. (Hello penny stocks !) I found it by Googling my own blog name, which I do from time to time, and it surprised me to be on the front page. The numbers don't surprise me though, honestly, I'm surprised it's not higher. These things take time I keep getting told, I guess I'm just impatient. I don't know for sure, so don't quote me, but I would imagine their highering if you live near by, I know for sure many are establishing outlets nationwide which creates even more jobs. HyPower is a favorite of mine for it's home base in Wilmington, Delaware U.S.A. http://www.hypowerfuel.com/home.html&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately I've had trouble registering with Re-Am.com (Republican American) for I read yet another article about this technology being a scam. How is it that this can be a scam when one company can sell 99 million dollars in product ? Thats no scam ! They aren't the only ones, they're amoung the commercial quality derived products I and other industry bloggers link to, in my case, on the right.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-433951845944740433?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.bymnews.com/new/index2.php?option=com_content&amp;do_pdf=1&amp;id=35969' title='HyPower Fuel'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/433951845944740433?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/433951845944740433?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hypower-fuel.html' title='HyPower Fuel'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;AkcMRno7eip7ImA9WxdWFU4.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-2550913915937128708</id><published>2008-07-08T09:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-08T10:28:07.402-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-08T10:28:07.402-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kgo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='epa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='C.A.R.B.'/><title>Blog advice from KGO lawyer, Len Tillem</title><content type='html'>The link here is to KGO 810 of San Francisco and the surrounding by area, my home. I spoke with Len Tillem, who does free advice to people who call in during the lunch hour. The reason I called in is because while speaking with one of the companies, listed on the right of this blog, I was warned, guite affimatively, to be careful of where I go and what I say and to whom. My guess is this person thought I was planning on being his competition, which I'm not but failed to tell him exactly what I do want to do yet, and that this market is very volatile and companies are grabbing their piece of the market by almost any means necessary. Another company I am in contact with, which I do not list here and do not want to mention at this time, actually threatend to sue me for everything I have. He did that because of my wanting to see companies that are making substantial amounts of money with this technology go through due process like so many other varied companies before them, and if not I could blow the whistle and set the EPA on them like the territorial mad dogs they are. And the EPA wants to know, they ask me who they are, but so far I am reluctant to tell them because of the benefits of a product like this. &lt;br /&gt;Some but not all are doing business in the standard way, which is to register your product for legal sale here in the U.S. My concern for this is generally targeted at companies outside the U.S. coming here and taking what they can, as fast a they can with disregard for our way of doing business. This business provides us with tax revenue, industry standards and product assuredness for the consumer, among other things. I know it's a tedious process and takes time and money, but when I ask them how EPA and CARB registrations are going they have one of three things to say, 1- we're in the process and it's going well considering, 2- The EPA doesn't like products like ours because of the impact to the oil industry and tax revenue but we keep trying, which I mentioned in earlier postings, and 3- we're aren't doing anything with that (EPA) because we're to busy expanding manufacturing, retail or business in general. The last one erks me the most, this companies VP said in three months they've made 6 million dollars, bought a second wharehouse to manufacture and their website says they are hiring nation wide. At $500,000 a week you don't have time for due process! are you kidding me! WTF! Yet another reason I call myself Hands inthe Air, not to mention sueing me is like stealing my identity, and now you have bad credit too. But what I do have is time, a computer, and passion, with these I can provide through this blog what Len Tillem told me to do, put the truth out there and not to worry about guy's that threaten me for doing so. On another similar note, I have downloaded and read all the necessary files to supply anyone looking to register a product and can setup a CDX account with, and as suggested by, the EPA, if your interested in manufacturing. The links on the right are probably more important than my posts, they are a compound of evidence against the "scam screamers" and "naysayers". I am more than happy to fight this fight. Ye Ha!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-2550913915937128708?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.kgoam810.com/' title='Blog advice from KGO lawyer, Len Tillem'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/2550913915937128708?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/2550913915937128708?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-advice-from-kgo-lawyer-len-tillem.html' title='Blog advice from KGO lawyer, Len Tillem'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;AkAERH87cSp7ImA9WxdXGEk.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-625374622308817415</id><published>2008-06-29T23:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T10:58:25.109-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-06-30T10:58:25.109-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='calfornia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title>city progress update</title><content type='html'>I started going to the city after Hydrorunner said that is what they are doing. I decided just to go to a Sonoma County board meeting. After that I found out from our local news paper to contact our local climate protection campaign as for they are along the same lines. They have never heard such a thing as to what all the news links here say, and what this blog is for. I caught them totally off guard, just like KGO, and they told me to bring them fact sheets, data reports, emission reports etc. Thats great, I guess I could print pages from manufacturer sites, but they too could easily just got to the website for proof of feasiblity and, therefore, claims and testimonials. America is not up to speed on this stuff, I guess thats what we're here for. I'm not sure what to do anymore about Sonoma County, or if I have to do anything. I feel I should, I have the time, the knowledge, but not the paperwork for truth. I need printer paper. Due to expected skepticism, I'm confused, at what i'm confused for and about. I tell myself; print the testimony and emission reports from a few different manufacturers and bring it to local government, noting the sites their from and the return on investment. Only bring commercial grade companies to their eyes, you see, it's simple, just do it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-625374622308817415?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/625374622308817415?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/625374622308817415?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/city-progress-update.html' title='city progress update'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;Dk4MQ3syfSp7ImA9WxdXF0g.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-6207184067114552563</id><published>2008-06-29T08:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-29T08:56:22.595-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-06-29T08:56:22.595-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='revolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='C.A.R.B.'/><title>C.A.R.B., like the EPA</title><content type='html'>Hello,&lt;br /&gt;  thank you for your response. I did not find what I was looking for on your hydrogen link. I am refering to hydrogen on demand kits for vehicles. These kits are a retrofit for already existing vehicles. These systems use electricity from the vehicles alternator to split hydrogen and oxygen from water. The systems use electrolysis to do this. I am a certified ASE master technician, and I have done my own research on these systems, and I have recorded a dramatic drop in noxious and greenhouse gasses from my own vehicle. I am wondering if any companys producing these hydrogen on demand kits are currently seeking CARB certification, or if CARB has done their own research on them. Thank you again for your time, and I look forward to your response.&lt;br /&gt;  Christopher Dates&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for contacting the ARB Helpline.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the ARB there is ongoing research on vehicle emissions and alternate fuel systems.&lt;br /&gt;If a company is seeking ARB Certification for their products this is not public information and we do not give it out.&lt;br /&gt;You may call the ARB Helpline at (800) 242-4450, if you need further assistance.&lt;br /&gt;                        ---PEOPLE--- you can do what you want, but I suggest you do whats right for "We The People".  Evidence is compounding, here and at fellow blogs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, by the way, I got the thumbs up from the VA DEQ which is the dept of environmental quality for Virginia, as long as no emission sensors were disturbed.&lt;br /&gt;       &lt;br /&gt;Thanks Chris, I too have had phone conversations like this. I am not a master technician, I pose as a manufacturer to get what info I can. The process is lengthy and expensive, on top of that they don't currently have a catergory for products like this. These products are available now. Some good working units are $200 US, and readily available, dramatically increasing fuel economy and reducing emission.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-6207184067114552563?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/6207184067114552563?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/6207184067114552563?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/carb-like-epa.html' title='C.A.R.B., like the EPA'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;AkUNRXYyeSp7ImA9WxdWFU4.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-99261055091903324</id><published>2008-06-29T08:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-08T10:31:34.891-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-08T10:31:34.891-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='revolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='epa'/><title>EPA update, another example of what is wrong</title><content type='html'>Chris forwarded me this EPA conversation, I have a word or two at the bottom. &lt;br /&gt;Dear Sir or Madam,&lt;br /&gt;           I am trying to find the laws and regulations on the use of&lt;br /&gt;supplemental hydrogen systems on vehicles both gasoline and diesel&lt;br /&gt;powered.  I have searched your website and found nothing on this topic.&lt;br /&gt;I have found some information on fuel conversions, but these systems are&lt;br /&gt;not the same.  The hydrogen systems that I am inquiring about are an on&lt;br /&gt;demand system. There is no storage of hydrogen, the hydrogen is&lt;br /&gt;generated through electrolysis.  Use of these systems does effect&lt;br /&gt;vehicle emissions, but tests have shown for the better. Using the 5 gas&lt;br /&gt;analyzer to take readings the tailpipe emissions drastically improve. Is&lt;br /&gt;there any laws or regulations on the use of these systems? I would&lt;br /&gt;appreciate any response on this subject.&lt;br /&gt;  Thank you,&lt;br /&gt;Christopher dates&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was asked to reply to your e-mail sent to an EPA web&lt;br /&gt;site.  40 CFR Part 85 Subpart F requires certification of aftermarket&lt;br /&gt;fuel conversions to avoid violating the anti-tampering provisions in&lt;br /&gt;Section 203(a) of the Clean Air Act.  EPA considers supplemental fuel&lt;br /&gt;systems such as an on-demand supply of hydrogen to be a type of fuel&lt;br /&gt;switching.  Official EPA emission testing uses equipment far more&lt;br /&gt;accurate and sophisticated than 5 gas analyzers.  The certification&lt;br /&gt;process is very complicated and not inexpensive, and therefore not well&lt;br /&gt;suited for a one-of fuel conversion by an individual.  You will likely&lt;br /&gt;find may types of fuel conversion kits on the web, including hydrolysis&lt;br /&gt;kits.  Most all are illegal and our office generally refers these to our&lt;br /&gt;Enforcement Office when they are brought to our intention.  Vehicle&lt;br /&gt;owners who violate the requirements of Part 85 should realize the&lt;br /&gt;practical consequences of illegal fuel conversions - they include&lt;br /&gt;voiding the OEM warranty coverage for the vehicle if still in effect,&lt;br /&gt;and possible registration denial if you live in a state that conducts an&lt;br /&gt;inspection/maintenance test where registration of the vehicle is tied to&lt;br /&gt;having a valid underhood emission control label for a fuel converted&lt;br /&gt;vehicle.  Reineman.Martin@epamail.epa.gov&lt;br /&gt;  Thanks Chris ! Folks this is whats wrong. As I posted earlier, the EPA, as does that Bill Wattenburg and other nay sayers are misguided. This retrofit, hho, like systems are merely a supplement, they do not replace gasoline and are not intended to, it's an additive, not a switching like the EPA says. They are confused and we must fix this law with mass deployment, by the time law gets around to it it will be too late. The people must stand up.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-99261055091903324?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/99261055091903324?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/99261055091903324?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/epa-update-another-example-of-what-is.html' title='EPA update, another example of what is wrong'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;DUcMSHc4fSp7ImA9WxdVEUk.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-9120367976913605528</id><published>2008-06-28T23:21:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-15T11:38:09.935-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-15T11:38:09.935-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='revolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hydrogen retrofit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jobs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='HHo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stocks'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='america'/><title>HHO is coming to America</title><content type='html'>In a big way. There are only a few weeks till this goes national and when it does it will soon be global. Many efforts are being made all sides of a unique spectram. This truly is unpresedented in scale of opportunity. America is most definately going to live up to it's name "The Land of Opportunity". I am so excited at the changes that are going to take place in all the markets this blog is of. Lately my favorite thing to do is go to Google news and hunt, literally "hunt", for articles of the untrue, that HHO does not work. Call your radio stations and ask about it, if they think your wrong, it is because they have been fooled, just warn them of the coming fuel economy revoltion.  Ha Ha Ha I love it! There are some issues i'm fairly concerned with though, has anyone put their hand infront of the tail pipe ? Does moisture collect ? and how fast ? If it does than the cars need a sort of vapor densifier. If we don't thatn the vapor will collect in our atmoshere and come down as rain at the time as blocking the sun. This is not good. If it's true. Please someone, check to see how much, how fast, water vapor collects on your hand when you put it in front/behind of the exhaust tail pipe. &lt;br /&gt;I spoke with Rainingfuel today and they've made 6 million in 3 months. That is incredible ! With numbers like this and the market this wide open just about anyone has plenty of room and opportunity to become a millionaire ! This is no lie. This is also going to instigate some intense arguements that will and somtimes will not, be known to the public. Rockefeller and Exxon are argueing pretty bad, look at the blog link from "Global Stock Market Blog". It's not directly related to HHO, it's alternative energy as a whole and where it is going. I think some of the bickering is directly related to HHO, example: look at the GENERAL MOTORS article. There is no way to prove they are all related, and I'm not saying they are, but this and more I see points a particular direction. Energy revolution. example: Look at "freelectricity.com". Magnet motors like this can put major energy companies out of business at the same time as making "the people" millions, just like HHO.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-9120367976913605528?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/9120367976913605528?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/9120367976913605528?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/hho-is-coming-to-america.html' title='HHO is coming to America'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;C04EQ385eyp7ImA9WxdXFUQ.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-7530896142647421205</id><published>2008-06-26T08:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-27T11:38:22.123-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-06-27T11:38:22.123-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tax'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='diy'/><title>DIY sector, series vs. parallel</title><content type='html'>I'm a member of a few forums, the DIY sector to this technology is growing at healthy pace. This is good and bad. We have many novice's playing with electricity and water, some pulling as many as 70 amps. WTF!, knowing that .3 amps can kill, many people are unknowingly putting their lifes in jeopardy. Fuel-savers forum is pretty informative, they seem to have knowledgable moderaters and information is pulled from companies that have been in this business for many years. I recently joined another forum, HHOinfo. This forum is young, the name is catchy, and so I think they'll stick around as long as knowledgable people help out, and I don't know why yet but they gave me a sense of what I call a "down home" feeling, friends coming together helping eachother for a common goal, which is what forums are for. Questions that seem to come into play alot at these and other forums I check on are around series vs. parallel. From patents i've seen and people i've queried, they say series is the way to go. They know more than me, being they've been in business longer and have things like patents, and stock tickers, I trust them. Many people ask what the difference is between series and parallel. I put it as simple as I can like this; series is a wire that bounces from the power supply to contact, to contact, to contact and so on till the end. Hooking up multiple cells this way has shown to increase output substantially, keep amps drawn to the minimum, aswell as keep the heat down. Parallel is this; all contacts come together to a single point and then connected to the power supply. This is how I did my first generator and production was never like what I saw others getting. The efforts of forums like these is good, but the danger is high, and as I mentioned in a earlier post, most people do not realize the harm this will do to our governments financials. Restated; if we all do this and lower fuel purchases in half, than tax revenue is also cut in half. This tax revenue is in the billions of dollars range, and this revenue goes to pay for services that we all enjoy, yet commonly take for granted. When that revenue dissapears you will no longer take it for granted. I suggest you get a green house and grow your own food, amoung other personal survival techniques.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-7530896142647421205?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://fuel-saver.org/forum/' title='DIY sector, series vs. parallel'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/7530896142647421205?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/7530896142647421205?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/diy-sector-series-vs-parallel.html' title='DIY sector, series vs. parallel'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;DEcDQHc9fip7ImA9WxdWFk4.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-2806412364032052473</id><published>2008-06-24T18:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-09T13:41:11.966-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-09T13:41:11.966-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='diesel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hydrogen retrofit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='calfornia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='C.A.R.B.'/><title>Peterbilt</title><content type='html'>I've been talking with a man at my local Peterbilt dealership the past few weeks, trying to get an account landed with one of the manufacturers listed here. Today we spoke for a bit, and he and a few customers he's mentioned this stuff to really like the possibilities of such a product. Problem is, Nox and particulate matter standards in 2010 are going to be lowered from their current placement and customers here are already worried their going to have to get rid of their trucks to get new ones that meet the CARB standards. I've seen testing data of various manufacturer reports everything but Nox is reduced, and by a good amount. Considering the fuel gains of a product like this, combined with the lower emission to satisfactory levels in all other areas now and in 2010, I'm really quite dissapointed that manufacturers of these types of products are having so much trouble in dealing with California. A few weeks ago the CHEC called in regards to a question I left in their voicemail about this. Not that what she said conflicts with Peterbilt, what she said was, they are legal to sell product in Ca. and are currently setting up distributorships. So, even if a driver or truck owner was to purchase one it would be a waste considering the regulations of 2010. The increase in fuel economy was not enough to make up the cost in this time ? I'm sure it is, even Peterbilt said yes it would pay for itself in that time. I don't understand why they wouldn't buy a few and atleast test what the actuall particulate matter and Nox levels to see exactly what happens. Even on the C.A.R.B. website it says emission levels vary by the particular engine your dealing with, an engine in one truck and the same engine in another truck will have different emissions. It's a long way to go but one would have to have a unit in stock, test the truck, install the unit, wait 30 days and test again noting fuel economy, to see what result they get, and do this for each truck individually. All trucks would benefit in fuel economy, but not all would benefit enough when it come to emissions. Oui! I say save the money on fuel and in 2010 if you have to get a new truck, keep the H2generator and try it on the new one. Two hours later; If there's the rebate forms giving 100% deduction, than there is nothing to lose. And then you could take it off the truck and put on the new truck if your forced to get a new truck. I'll send him an email reitirating this.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-2806412364032052473?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/2806412364032052473?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/2806412364032052473?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/peterbilt.html' title='Peterbilt'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;CUMAR3g8eip7ImA9WxdXF08.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-3543579129104949446</id><published>2008-06-21T10:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-29T00:10:46.672-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-06-29T00:10:46.672-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jobs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><title>Tax rebates and nationwide job creation</title><content type='html'>Who doesn't want one of these devices that uses water and the electricity your vehicle already makes to increase your fuel milage at the same time as reducing emission. No one. Well big oil doesn't, nor will the Federal Government like the loss in Tax revenue from falling oil sales and consquently, stocks. But the loss in tax revenue, as I mentioned before, will be realized over an unknown number of  years as this technology gets into the market place. Tax revenue could be recouped by sales numbers, which will be astronomical, but right now and until 2014, unless pulled sooner, tax rebates for buying one of these hydrogenretrofit devices are at100%. Effectively making them free so long as you make the initial investment. Why a 100% tax rebate ? Maybe because of the immediate substantial reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, i'm sure they know about the increase in fuel economy aswell. I'm not sure when the IRS form first became available, nor does it really matter but it points right at the ability of this technology, recognizes it potential and expidites it's growth and position in the market. The jobs this technology will create is far reaching. Any currently certified A.S.E. technician will be able to get an additional certification specifying him as able to install and maintain this Hydrogen Fuel Injection System. Manufacturing too will hire many people. I can see it hitting a peak, maybe ten years from now. Pure Hydrogen cars will definetely have a larger market share by then and so will electric vehicles, which I think will be the end all.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-3543579129104949446?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/3543579129104949446?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/3543579129104949446?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/creating-jobs-nationwide.html' title='Tax rebates and nationwide job creation'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;CUENR30-fCp7ImA9WxdXEEg.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-264425100879410231</id><published>2008-06-20T18:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-21T06:08:16.354-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-06-21T06:08:16.354-07:00</app:edited><title>Flood Gates</title><content type='html'>Are going to burst soon enough, this is so cool. All the reasearch i'm lucky enough to do right now makes me crazy. I can't stop, nor can I really get a good focus on what to blog next. Today I went back to H2earth, joined this time, and did quite a bit of reading. If you haven't been there, go. It's right over there on the right. Most of the stuff i've read before, but it still sparks me. I can't wait till Government or some Bigwig gets stuck answering questions on the air or t.v., problem about that is blame is differed throughout so many people and organizations. Remember in school, or maybe at home as a kid, and some adult told you "if I don't find out who it was, your all gonna be in big trouble", and everybody points fingers at someone else, Or the Looney Tunes where the character says "he went thata way", pointing his fingers both directions. Thats kinda like are Government and big oil over the last 50+ years around this type of technology. Call a radio talk show and ask the host, "do you know who Stan Meyer was ?". Just for fun, (you might have to white fib to the program director a little) If the host doesn't know, ask him "Honestly" ? say "Oh...nevermind" and hangup. That alone will make a five, ten or more people look up the name Stan Meyer. If he does know, he'll go on about some aspect that I obviously cant predict, either for or against, either way good luck.  The point is to raise awarness, and have fun making other people think.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-264425100879410231?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/264425100879410231?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/264425100879410231?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/flood-gates.html' title='Flood Gates'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;AkYMRnc8eCp7ImA9WxdWFU4.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-281838869017168546</id><published>2008-06-20T14:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-08T10:29:47.970-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-08T10:29:47.970-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='epa'/><title>EPA update</title><content type='html'>So i got the call back form EPA, and I was wrong. Dammit. Oh well, live an learn.  The EPA, like B over at http://aquygen.blogspot.com says, has had no one approach them about verification of product claims. They,the EPA, have seperate authorities in the same building, so to speak. It seemed reasonable, the past week or so, that if your product is registered, than it would do as you claim, but this is not the case. The link to the EPA list shows Hy-drive on the list of manufacturers whos products are registered as having a chemically safe and highway friendly product. Personally, I don't see the alternative of a huge compressed liquid Hydrogen carrying 18 wheeler as highway friendly. I get nervous passing them on the highway, and wonder if the driver is sleeping well at night. The EPA does have an authortive section that deals with verification of claims but are not dealing with any manufacture at this time. I spoke with a Hy-drive rep. a week ago or so and he told me Hy-drive is getting a new product ready. Ready for what, he didn't say.  He did say it was to be replace their large truck unit, and to be released around the turn of the year. Even this, as of yet, isn't going to be EPA approved as a working device lowering gasoline/diesel usage while simultaneously reducing emissions. Thats too bad.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-281838869017168546?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/281838869017168546?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/281838869017168546?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/epa-update.html' title='EPA update'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;D0cCQns9cSp7ImA9WxdXGEU.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-5041237411840486279</id><published>2008-06-18T19:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T21:04:23.569-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-06-30T21:04:23.569-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='HHo'/><title>Common misconceptions</title><content type='html'>This news clip from the Washington Post, under the title, where they ask the guy from Goss's Garage about running your car on water kits, is the perfect example of whats wrong. Get this, we cant run the cars most of us have on HHO, that is right, thats also not whats needed, or wanted, by people interested in a Hydrogen Fuel Injection System or HHO kits. Everywhere I go, people ask, and people answer about running the car on HHO as if it's never going to need gasoline, and no matter how I ask, or how I hear others ask incorrectly, people in media will only answer as if thats the goal. It's merely a supplement ! Big difference. It's added to the gasoline, reducing the amount you need of gasoline. It only works to a certain point, and that point depends on a number of factors, such as altitude, driving style, tire pressure, etc. Mr. wattenburg at KGO S.F in my personal experience, and now Goss's Garage, both don't understand the question. They answer the question as if people want to run their cars strictly on these HHO kits, which again, you can't, but the fact is you can supplement gasoline or diesel with Hydrogen gas produced on board the vehicle as needed, but not all. In Mineing this is important because the fumes inside underground mines kill people. There are other options such as, FlexFuel has a kit you fill up at, or, from home overnight with a Hydrogen generator you keep at home or maybe work, (you can use it to fill a propane tank too, see hydrogen solar home on youtube) the auto parts install in a few hours and it works on every car, so you can never buy gasoline again, unless you want or need to in some emergency situations, it's an option apparently. How much $, I dont know, I cant afford it anyways. For the masses of people driving around today, there are options.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-5041237411840486279?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/05/15/DI2008051502119.html' title='Common misconceptions'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/5041237411840486279?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/5041237411840486279?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/common-misconceptions.html' title='Common misconceptions'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;DUYERng5cCp7ImA9WxdVEUk.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-8526532845638233687</id><published>2008-06-17T11:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-15T11:38:27.628-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-15T11:38:27.628-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stocks'/><title>Predicting the market, stocks are green</title><content type='html'>23 of my 30 stocks im watching on Yahoo are green, two are near 10% and one at 15%, another at 30%, and the rest are an average of 4% or so, regularly. I see in the news stocks are down overall, and as we all know certain stocks are and will do well in our strange economy. I dont have the money to invest and i wish i did. These kinds of gains are common for me. This isn't the first time either, i've seen gains like this. One night I caught some new news (reports are repeated by different broadcasters from different news agencies) so I added the ticker to my free Yahoo portfolio and the next day was a 100% gain. I guess i'm a day trader, but with no money. If i had $1500 invested in those three alone today, I could've made more than a few hundred easy. I would have two jobs then, and then hopefully some sales too, three jobs total. A couple in my portfolio are at 50% or better returns for the year so far. Of'course the risk is higher, but so are the rewards.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-8526532845638233687?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/8526532845638233687?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/8526532845638233687?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/predicting-market-stocks-are-green.html' title='Predicting the market, stocks are green'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;AkUHSX44fCp7ImA9WxdWFU4.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-4192998650710823595</id><published>2008-06-16T10:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-08T10:30:38.034-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-08T10:30:38.034-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='epa'/><title>Environmental Protection Agency</title><content type='html'>I have been in a few arguements lately with San Francisco talk show programs about this next statement. One cannot get an EPA approval if the manufacturers claims connot be repeated by the EPA. True or False ? Another way to put it ; A product will not be approved if the manufacturers claims cannot be repeatedly verified by the EPA's approved independant (3rd party) test facility. Call screeners at S.F. area radio talk shows dodge this point and go to technical questions that I cant answer, nor do i believe i need to know those answers given the statement. I know about cars quite well, not as much as some, at the same time as, better than most. I am waiting on the EPA to return my call about this now. Wednesday now and no call back, try again. She called and left a number of the contact I already have, maybe I should've asked him to begin with. These folks are busy, and don't have much time to take a lot of random calls. I know it's a true statement though, I'll call anyways.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-4192998650710823595?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/4192998650710823595?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/4192998650710823595?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/environmental-protection-agency.html' title='Environmental Protection Agency'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;D0UEQHg4eip7ImA9WxdXEEU.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-547147075609231389</id><published>2008-06-12T22:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-21T14:53:21.632-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-06-21T14:53:21.632-07:00</app:edited><title>Political Retrofit, A Revolution in the Making</title><content type='html'>Emerging Hydrogen on demand industrial, economic and political retrofit. First and foremost, Why would America give an EPA registration to a company in Canada before giving registration to an American company ? Most likely because no American company approched the EPA, atleast not first. Too if we did, than that American company would take the money away from big oil, and tax revenue from oil sales away from America, which will happen anyways. On S.F. talk radio the other day, I heard an oil industry rep., Chevron I believe, talking about 48% of profits is paid to our government, even with the tax breaks we hear about. So then the real problem I understand about this is, if we do cut oil use in half with this tech., than we also cut its tax revenue in half, regardless of which country gets a jump on the market. This is a concern, but atleast it doesn't happen over night, we have time as a cushion. Drilling for new oil will take awhile, as we know, and that time is painful, but we have options. I really liked what i read about Obama's place in this, and he may not even know. Mccain is tied in with oil, like Bush, and huge oil companies don't want this tech out in the mainstream. From various sources, many years ago this tech was discovered and as patents went into the system they were bought, sometimes for millions which then was a lot more money than that millions may represent today, stolen or somehow kept from being put to use. Stan Meyer died in 1998, some say mysteriously, and his patent expired in 2000. A conspiracy theory, maybe, but it makes sense to do so by government and big oil, given the tax effect and loss to oil profits. Obama isn't really part of this circle, which is dangerous for him, he would be the type to promote it, maybe do something like Korea, and that would be detrimental to oil, and as for tax revenue, which I speculate, would be why he may not.&lt;br /&gt;This theory combined with news links here are further mounting evidence at why this is a economic and political retrofit. All the info provided are clips from other credible news and business sources. Water for gas works, for those who don't believe me, than why is there an EPA.GOV approved manufacturer of a similar device ? No one will answer this, and I'm looking forward to the day someone does. The NYTimes article says highly voltile gas carried on interstate in mass quantities spills in crash, police evacuate everyone nearby, as if they could get far enough away fast enough. I've heard, "fools get lucky" these people sure got lucky. There is a solution to this problem. It is used in major industries most people never hear about or follow (infomine pdf page 4), state and county governments across the country are mostly unaware of the immediate benefit potential or this technologies instant gratification abilities. We Americans like instant gratification, don't we. I decided to skip Cotati and go straight for Sonoma County, i'm starting with government. Getting to a point where cars running purely on Hydrogen is a ways off yet, cars are available, but what about the most of us who have years left of a loan on a car that runs on gasoline. A bridge from where we are to where we will be is needed, Hydrogen Fuel Injection (hho) provides just that. &lt;br /&gt;As for business, people already involved know what to do, what they can, where they can, as soon as they can. The reasons for this are obvious.&lt;br /&gt;I hope Myth Busters don't fall victim to the same cherade Dr. Wattenburg of KGO 810 became a victim of, and all the loyal listeners he has believe in him and they need to know the truth. The Internet is where I've taught myself all of these facts, and some improvable theories. But undoubtedly by me, some are ,almost unbelievebly, true.&lt;br /&gt;I think it's quite funny this picked up steam in George Bush's presidential era, be it the end. Especially knowing his ties to oil. Not that he's directly responsible for what the EPA does, but in regards to something having an effect like this he must have known. So, September 18, 2006 was the first and only EPA approval date, according to my sources at the EPA. Believe it or not, we have, vicariously, George Bush to thank for this EPA verification that HHO systems, or now an industry standard name of Hydrogen fuel Injection, systems work. Hopefully one of the new Presidential nominees is notified of this ability, maybe "The Greatest Blog in History" will get this point across to the proper authorities. There blog makes me think so, but i dont know for sure. I would love to make a video for Youtube for some upcoming debates about this tech and it's various effects. I dont know if I should post the link for the Tax rebate form but I have it still. Form 8911 if your interested enough to go find it somewhere, like irs.gov and download it. That and Epa's approval, NBC news crew vehicle tests, mandates in other countries, Ronnmotors etc. all point one direction. More will come online in time, i'm sure. I believe America can take the lead. I read EPA has taken over CARB in matters such as these because, the EPA knows that climate change and things that effect it are national issues, not California's. The EPA and Federal Government have recognized this ability to not only increase fuel mileage but reduce emissions at the same time, this is very good for the environment and our pocket books.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-547147075609231389?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/547147075609231389?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/547147075609231389?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/political-retrofit.html' title='Political Retrofit, A Revolution in the Making'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;AkYAQn08eSp7ImA9WxdWFU4.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-355068003952644747</id><published>2008-06-10T22:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-08T10:29:03.371-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-08T10:29:03.371-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kgo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='calfornia'/><title>Bill Wattenburg has been lied to</title><content type='html'>Bill wattenburg, a radio talk show host for KGO AM 810 of San Francisco, talked all over me this evening. I called him to talk about some basics around this stuff and he instantly went Blah Blah Blah you free energy freaks this and that then goes on about predetermined theory that doesn't have hardly anything to do with this technologies ability, and all he had after this were basic questions on how to operate it, where electrical power comes from, and production rates. Good points sure, but look at some links here, and some of my fellow bloggers, mounting evidence to the contrary. Anyways, I went directly to Korean mandates and EPA approvals, he got pissed and said i'm wasting his airtime with this nonsense. I wrote Wattenburg an e-mail explaining things a bit better to him than what his, run me over technique would allow. I warned him i'd be calling back. Personally, that Beauracratic mumbo jumbo regergitator reminds me of these ol'men in politics I see on t.v. saying "Politics is not an old mans job". This coming from a guy in late 70's to, obviously a bit more self aware. I admit, expierence goes a long way, but some political people and guys like this Bill Wattenburg can't listen anymore. He wouldn't even answer questions about other government mandates and EPA. They must feel they know everything, they're the ones with a radio show, and here is the begining of the political retrofit. Guy's like this will soon have to answer to somebody about the years of lies it seems they've been telling, and that food chain will rise. Look at the link for "The Greatest Blog in History" dated June 18. Truth be told,the only thing that knows everything is the computer, you just have to know how to find it. We'll see nationwide news soon (I certainly hope), stock quotes, and forums saying and doing more an more about this industry. The National Hydrogen Association (if I remeber correctly) coined the term of Hydrogen Fuel Injection systems. Which is in direct conflict with Mr. Wattenburg's so called truth, and I seriously doubt he has any real world or "hands on" expierence in this tech. Besides he's an oil guy, he talks about all the oil related patents he has, like drilling horizontally after being hundreds of feet deep already, (thats cool) so of'course he won't want to entertain a subject like this, it damages his image, a conflict of interest, and I sometimes wonder if he knows otherwise, but stands firm in the lie.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-355068003952644747?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFifFR-4C28' title='Bill Wattenburg has been lied to'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/355068003952644747?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/355068003952644747?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/bill-watsons-obviously-uneducated-in.html' title='Bill Wattenburg has been lied to'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;DUYHQXw7eyp7ImA9WxdVEUk.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-4945690055356957874</id><published>2008-06-09T15:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-15T11:38:50.203-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-15T11:38:50.203-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stocks'/><title>New car available soon, built in retrofit</title><content type='html'>This car is looks pretty cool, its obviously a tube chassis car at this point and i've yet to find anything about Ronnmotors moving into a unibody design but i did read about a sedan coming next fall. This is for the truest of automotive enthusiats, one off construction of stellar detail and performance to make Corvette and Prius owners pay attention. If your the type to be comfortable in a turbo Porsche or Ferrari than this car may suit you well. And given the mileage of 40 mpg's at 450 h.p. with a 0 - 60 mph of 3.5 seconds ! it goes to show how beneficial this technology really is. Too, turbos force air into the engine, because of this increased air you also need increased fuel. But wait, how does more fuel used equal better gas mileage ? With the tech this blog is about getting into the public, Hydrogen Fuel Injection systems. It's great to see how fast this technology is coming along.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-4945690055356957874?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/4945690055356957874?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/4945690055356957874?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-car-sales-company-ronnmotors.html' title='New car available soon, built in retrofit'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;DEYER3g5eSp7ImA9WxdWFk4.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-9221640614881693868</id><published>2008-05-25T17:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-09T13:41:46.621-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-07-09T13:41:46.621-07:00</app:edited><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hydrogen retrofit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hydrogen Fuel Injection Systems'/><title>decompressing or disassociating water</title><content type='html'>Water is Hydrogen and Oxygen combined or compressed. Two parts H, one part O. Hydrogen is so light it slips through the ozone layer and drifts off into space, most if not all other gases get trapped in our atmosphere. Using less than roughly 10 amps (4 on mine) and only 17 volts, which by the way, is what our cars already make for electricity. We can electrify water of proper PH levels (two spoons sodium bicarbonate/baking soda per distilled gallon of water) and effectively decompress water. The decompression of course takes up alot of space, which happens to be one, repeat, one of the problems with the proposed hydrogen highway. Mass production of hydrogen and transporting super cooled compressed hydrogen (-420 something degrees), and building all the fueling stations are some others problems. That space that decompressed water takes up is fed right into the air intake, chance are your car has an unused vacuum port about the right size for the fuel line tube, and so no storage space is needed. Don't forget the 10 amp fuse on the positive or red wire, if you do forget than you've essentially connected the the battery to itself. Don't do that. That red wire should go to the ignition to, so its on when the cars is and off when the car is off. Too keep it from freezing ad about 20% denatured alcohol. I read some bit today where the guy said this leaned out his o2 sensor readings, which it does, because its reading so much more oxygen, but don't confuse this with enriching or leaning out the fuel. They are two different things. Intake and Exhaust. Your intake accepts air/gas and liqued fuel (gasoline or diesel). Air is a gas but its obviously not flammable like hydrogen. Adding the gas from a hydrogen retrofit device adds fuel. Gasoline and diesel must be lessened because you're replacing it with a fuel you make while driving. Any auto shop guy already knows this stuff, he probably doesn't know that its possible to put this thing together so easily and cheaply. If he doesn't know yet and you show him/her their eyes will flash "MONEY" , if you can display proof of concept. Show me the money ! Proof of concept and is right in front of you, right now, click around. Uh oh ! Two parts H and one part O, mixed in that proportion, implode when lit, when they compress back into water. They'll burn at any mix rate and form water, but the same proportions as water, 2 and 1, are actually implosive in contrast to explosive. Both are bad though unless in controlled environments, like an engine.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8402558292373844878-9221640614881693868?l=hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/9221640614881693868?v=2'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8402558292373844878/posts/default/9221640614881693868?v=2'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hydrogenretrofit.blogspot.com/2008/05/decompressing-water.html' title='decompressing or disassociating water'/><author><name>desmosabie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name='OpenSocialUserId' value='07393275985550564778'/></author></entry><entry gd:etag='W/&quot;CEIESXw4fCp7ImA9WxdQGUk.&quot;'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8402558292373844878.post-5470883086726399189</id><published>2008-05-24T20:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-19T23:15:08.234-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app='http://www.w3.org/2007/app'>2008-06-19T23:15:08.234-07:00</app:edited><title>Mythbusters and I</title><content type='html'>I sent them the link, the EPA approval for a hydrogen retrofit device, and now i'm waiting for a reply. I searched their forums but it only mentioned the water4gas guy, and the forum only went into some dragged out predetermined scientific equation without any sort of actual test. Heard that before. I felt it necessary to question their untested result, and supply them with Government documented knowledge of working devices available. I found this guy in Reno Nv. building these things and selling to customers on a "testing" basis. The lady ,that was i'd say was 50 years old that came in while we were talking, said it worked fine, increase in mileage and the cruise control stayed steady while crossing the hills into southern California from Nevada. That, I thought, was an unexpected bonus. But the shop owner said he has a list of customers a mile long yet he cant produce them fast enough being the knowledge is on a trial an error basis so far. Nor was he willing to hire someone to build these, either in-shop or as an outsource.&lt;br /&gt;I found publically traded companies building these too. I dont get why, if these multimillion dollar companies are making them why isn't someone already in between what they do and what I see water4gas.com doing ? There is a big gap in a wide open market for a product proven by the EPA to work. Whats the deal with that ? I care about getting this type of product in stores ASAP. It can be made in a universal format, and bolt right on, however with that setup one must get their cars computer reprogrammed for an addition of fuel that burns cleaner and hotter. Ignition timing must be adjusted to optimize combustion and get the air/fuel ratio back to the correct place or this can be done with a product called an EFIE. Apparently not too difficult being I called a few local auto shops and said "I've added a second fuel to my car, hydrogen, and now the air/fuel ratio is too lean, can you reprogram my ECU and adjust ignition timing so that the exhaust o2 levels are correct ?" He said yes. This was a performance Subaru shop. So I called another shop that repairs Hondas and Acuras and asked pretty much the same thing. Yes. 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