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</p><p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">My good friend <a href="http://forum.newordermormon.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=75" target="_blank">GDTeacher</a> has kindly allowed me to post his in-depth analysis of Elder Holland's recent General Conference address titled <a href="http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-1117-28,00.html" target="_blank">"Safety for the Soul."</a>  I <a href="http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2009/10/an-lds-gem-elder-hollands-opus.html" target="_blank">commented on the address myself in a recent entry.</a>  GDTeacher's analysis is more detailed and thorough than mine, and I think it complements well my thinking on the sermon.  Also included in GDTeacher's analysis are two appendices.  Appendix A contains the full text of Joseph Smith, Sr.'s dream of the tree of life, which I mentioned in my comments and which is eerily similar to the dream that Book of Mormon character Lehi had, as mentioned by Elder Holland in his talk (without, of course, mentioning Joseph Smith, Sr.'s dream, which predated the publication of the Book of Mormon).  Appendix B contains the full text of the Wikipedia entry on the possible Solomon Spaulding connections to the production of the Book of Mormon.  Elder Holland mentioned Solomon Spaulding (and Ethan Smith) in his talk.  Many Mormons likely are unfamiliar with the theories concerning the production of the Book of Mormon that Elder Holland dismisses as "frankly pathetic" in his talk.  This appendix will provide more background for those whose curiosity was piqued when Elder Holland mentioned their names.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Unfortunately, when I pasted GDTeacher's words into my post editor, all the footnote references were lost.  If anyone would like a copy of the essay with footnote references included, simply email me (equalitytime@gmail.com) and I will send it to you. Now on to GDTeacher's cogent analysis:<br></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">During the Sunday afternoon session of the October, 2009 LDS General
Conference, Elder Jeffrey R. Holland gave an uncommonly impassioned and
emotional talk, “Safety for the Soul. ”  This talk was unusual in
delivery and content for General Conference.  It left many feeling
proud and vindicated in their belief and conviction in the Book of
Mormon.  It left many feeling satisfied and spiritually fed.  Yet
others it left feeling confused and still others it left feeling
discouraged, hurt, or betrayed.  This paper presents an analysis of
Elder Holland’s talk in an attempt to help adult members and those in
church leadership positions understand why some members were confused
or otherwise adversely impacted by this powerful talk.</span>
</span></p><p><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"></span><span style="font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Elder Holland’s talk was a passionate defense of the divinity of the
Book of Mormon.  The range of emotion that flowed during delivery was
broad and deep.  He portrayed undeterred conviction, barely contained
anger, deep sadness, and utter disdain.  The content of the talk
covered obscure references, conventional LDS wisdom, historical facts,
historical claims, and LDS fable.  The address left many wondering,
“Why this talk?  Why now?”  Many were confused by the unusual delivery,
the obscure references, the anger of an apostle of God, the prolific
use of rhetorical devices, and the selective use of facts.</span>  </span></p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<br><span style="font-size: 14px;">
An all encompassing identification and definition of those who were
troubled by this talk is not possible.  However, in general, those
troubled by this talk fall into four loose categories.  The first is
those who react strongly to unusual emotional displays.  The second
category includes those with inquiring minds who know nothing about
Book of Mormon authorship theories.  The third includes informed
members, usually intellectually inclined, who understand the
scholarship behind alternative Book of Mormon authorship theories.  The
last category, also usually intellectually inclined, includes those who
understand the art of rhetoric and persuasive speaking and writing
techniques.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px;">
The divinity of any sacred text is fundamental, if not foundational to
the theology and belief system of any religion.  Elder Holland’s
defense of the Book of Mormon is understandable, if not expected, in
this light.  Just as the Book of Mormon was defended by Elder Holland
in this General Conference, so also have other sacred texts such as the
Koran (Qu’ran) and The Book of the Law of the Lord , been passionately
defended by religious leaders and apologists.  As Elder Holland’s talk
is analyzed, the reader should understand that an impassioned defense
of any sacred text could be mounted using the same approach and
perspective which Elder Holland employed in his defense of the Book of
Mormon.  Doing so will allow the reader to more fully understand Elder
Holland’s talk from both a spiritual perspective, which he emphasizes,
but also from an objective perspective.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px;">
This analysis of Elder Holland’s talk will cover the content,
historical references, logical references, and the use of rhetorical
devices in both the written and the spoken word.  The approach will be
to analyze the full text of Elder Holland’s talk sequentially,
identifying and analyzing key points.  Each point analyzed will have a
reference number inserted into the text in brackets (e.g. A1), with
each point being discussed at the following paragraph break.  Following
the sequential analysis, a summary of findings, implications, and a
request for understanding will be presented.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px;">
Let’s move onto the talk.</span><br>
 <br>
<br></span><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>Elder Holland:</strong> Prophecies regarding the last days often refer to large-scale
calamities [A1] such as earthquakes or famines or floods. These in turn
may be linked to widespread economic or political upheavals of one kind
or another.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"></span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
But there is one kind of latter-day destruction [A1] that has always
sounded to me more personal than public, more individual than
collective, a warning, perhaps more applicable inside the Church than
outside it. The Savior warned in the last days even those of “the
covenant,” the very elect, could be deceived by the enemy of truth.
[A2] If we think of this as a form of spiritual destruction, [A1] it
may cast light on another latter-day prophecy. Think of the heart as
the figurative center of our faith, the poetic location of our
loyalties and our values, and then consider Jesus’s declaration that in
the last days, “men’s hearts [shall fail] them.” [A1]</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"></span></blockquote><p>

<br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>A1 – Destruction. </strong> Elder Holland uses the comparison of earthquakes,
famines, and floods, which can and do result in tremendous carnage, to
individual “spiritual destruction.”  The use of this physical metaphor
emphasizes the carnage he perceives when members of the church are
deceived by Satan, the enemy of truth.  This rhetorical device paints a
grotesque picture illustrating the consequences of the deception, yet
its nature remains undefined.  The notion that members are deceived, in
this case by Satan, carries with it a grave warning of the potential
Satanic influence associated with a reasoned and informed study and
analysis of the Book of Mormon origins.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>A2 – The Deceived Elect.  </strong> In Matthew 24:24, we read, “For there shall
arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and
wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the
very elect.”[emphasis added]  Elder Holland’s talk does refer to the
elect being deceived, but does not refer to false Christs or false
prophets.  He eventually arrives at the idea that members may be
deceived by what he claims to be false theories of Book of Mormon
authorship.  Since no proponents of the various non-canonical theories
of Book of Mormon authorship claim to be Christs or prophets, the
reference is confusing and possibly even inapt.  Given the context in
his talk, it can be understood that “those of ‘the covenant,’ the very
elect,” is meant to mean faithful members of The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints.  The deception to which he refers is the members’
acceptance, in whole or in part, of one or more non-canonical theories
of the Book of Mormon authorship.</span><br>
<br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">The encouraging thing, of course, is that our Father in Heaven knows
all of these latter-day dangers, these troubles of the heart and the
soul, and has given counsel and protections regarding them.</span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
In light of that it has always been significant to me that the Book of
Mormon, one of the Lord’s powerful “keystones” in this
counter-offensive against latter-day ills, begins with a great parable
of life, an extended allegory of hope vs. fear, of light vs. darkness,
of salvation vs. destruction, an allegory of which Sister Ann Dibbs
spoke so movingly this morning.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
 </span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
In that dream, Lehi’s dream, [B1] an already difficult journey gets
more difficult when a mist of darkness arises obscuring any view of the
safe but narrow path his family and others are to follow. It is
imperative to note that this mist of darkness descends on all the
travelers: the faithful and the determined ones (the elect we might
even say) as well as the weaker and ungrounded ones. The principal
point of the story is that the successful travelers resist all
distractions, [B2] including the lure of forbidden paths and jeering
taunts from the vain and proud who have taken them. [B3] The record
says that the protected “did press their way forward, continually [and
I might add tenaciously] holding fast” to a rod of iron that runs
unfailingly along the course of the true path. However dark the night
or the day, the rod marks the way of that solitary, redeeming trail.
[B4]</span><br></blockquote><p>

<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>B1 – Lehi’s Dream. </strong> Given that Elder Holland is raising a defense of
the divinity of the Book of Mormon against alternate theories of its
authorship, it is startling that he selected the story of Lehi’s dream
to help build his case.  Proponents of alternate theories of the Book
of Mormon’s authorship use this specific story as evidence against the
divine origin of the Book of Mormon.  In 1811, Joseph Smith, Sr. had a
dream  extremely similar to the story contained in the Book of Mormon
about Lehi’s dream of the Tree of Life (see Appendix A).  Since this
story was already held and retold in the Smith family lore for 19 years
prior to the publication of the Book of Mormon, the inclusion of this
story in the Book of Mormon text is evidence that the Book of Mormon
was written using, in part, the life experiences of Joseph Smith as
foundational material.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>B2 – Resisting Distractions.</strong>  Elder Holland’s point on resisting
distractions suggests the idea that holding to the iron rod includes
only focusing on LDS church approved materials regarding the authorship
claims of the Book of Mormon.  This implies that to investigate other
theories of authorship is to invite distractions and to consider them
is to let go of the iron rod.  This is confusing to many members who
find spiritual, moral, and intellectual strength and fulfillment in
engaging their minds in their spiritual studies.  These members take to
heart the idea that they should “…seek learning even by study and also
by faith.”   They also give heed to the instruction given to Oliver
Cowdery through Joseph, “But, behold, I say unto you, that you must
study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if
it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you;
therefore, you shall feel that it is right.” </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>B3 – Taunts from the Vain and Proud.</strong>  Using the vain and proud from the
“great and spacious building” in Lehi’s dream, Elder Holland takes this
extremely negative rhetorical device to paint an unflattering picture
of honest scholars seeking to develop a defensible naturalistic
explanation of Book of Mormon authorship.  The unstated
characterization is that those who propose alternative theories of
authorship are vain and proud.  This is presumptuous on the part of
Elder Holland and it acts as a blanket condemnation of those holding
differing views.  Moreover, he marshals no evidence to support the
assertion that those whose opinions differ from his own necessarily
must be vain and proud.  Additionally, the use of these labels
constitutes an ad hominem attack and also name-calling, a common
propaganda technique employed to artificially discredit and minimize
the impact of those being labeled. </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>B4 – Solitary Redeeming Trail. </strong> The idea of a solitary redeeming trail,
meaning the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is accepted by
many members of the LDS church.  Further, the idea that all other
churches are an abomination in the sight of God is canonized in the
Pearl of Great Price.   This same idea of the solitary trail paints an
uncomfortable picture of pride and arrogance in the hearts of other
church members.  To them it strains credulity to imagine that a loving
God would be so random as to create a path that less than one percent
of his currently living children have a realistic opportunity to
follow.  This concept paints a picture of a fickle, uncaring,
ethnocentric God.  This concept hurts their hearts and souls.  </span><br>
</p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Encouraged by the increase in ecumenical activities over the past
several years, these members are hopeful of mutual respect,
reconciliation, and acceptance with and of various religious
traditions.  It is clear that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints wants to be accepted, viewed as Christians, and not persecuted. 
These members hope that their church, the LDS church, will extend the
same hand of fellowship to other churches that it desires for itself. 
Elder Holland’s characterization of the solitary redeeming trail
suggests otherwise.</span><br><blockquote><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">“I beheld,” Nephi says later, “that the rod of iron... was the word of
God, [leading]...to the tree of life;...a representation of the love of
God.” Viewing this manifestation of God’s love, Nephi goes on to say:
“I looked and beheld the Redeemer of the world...[who] went forth
ministering unto the people…. And I beheld multitudes of people who
were sick, and who were afflicted with all manner of diseases, and with
devils and unclean spirits;.... And they were healed by the power of
the Lamb of God; and the devils and the unclean spirits were cast out.”</span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Love. Healing. Help. Hope.  The power of Christ to counter all troubles
in all times—including the end of times.  [C1]  That is the safe harbor
God wants for us in personal or public days of despair. That is the
message with which the Book of Mormon begins and that is the message
with which it ends, calling all to “come unto Christ, and be perfected
in him.” [C1]  That phrase taken from Moroni’s final lines of
testimony, written one thousand years after Lehi’s vision, is a dying
man’s testimony [C2] of the only true way.</span><br></blockquote><p>



<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>C1 - Love, Healing, Help, Hope.</strong>  Most members of the LDS church accept
this message as it is expressed in the Book of Mormon.  They believe in
the power of Christ to counter troubles in their daily lives and strive
to “come unto Christ. ”  This is fundamental to their testimony of
Christ and his mission.  As presented in Elder Holland’s talk, this is
the first element of a three stage rhetorical device .  The testimony
of Christ, as stated by Moroni in the Book of Mormon , is shared by
most members of the LDS church.  They feel a personal connection to
Moroni’s testimony.  This connection amplifies the effect of the second
and third stages of the rhetorical device.  Informed listeners or
readers may have identified this emerging rhetorical device and are
troubled by its use by a revered leader of the Church because such
devices are typically used to mask poor arguments.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>C2 – Dying Man’s Testimony. </strong> The use of the phrase, “dying man’s
testimony,” with regard to Moroni’s testimony of Christ at the close of
the Book of Mormon, is the second element of the rhetorical device. 
The implication is that a person close to death will not lie or
otherwise exaggerate as he or she will shortly meet God and stand to be
judged.  This is a presumptuous, if not irrelevant, logical leap for
many.  It is unclear whether or not dying persons are actually more
truthful than men not expecting to die soon , but Elder Holland’s
assumption is clearly that a dying person’s testimony can be trusted
implicitly.  The third element of this rhetorical device occurs in the
following paragraph.</span><br>
<br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">May I refer to a modern “last days” testimony? [D1]  When Joseph Smith
and his brother Hyrum started for Carthage to face what they knew would
be imminent martyrdom, [D1]  Hyrum read these words of comfort to the
heart of his brother. “Thou hast been faithful; wherefore,…Thou shalt
be made strong, even unto the sitting down in the place which I have
prepared in the mansions of my Father. And now I, Moroni, bid
farewell...until we shall meet before the judgment-seat of Christ.”</span><br></blockquote><p>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>D1 – Imminent Martyrdom.</strong>  The notion of the dying testimony of Joseph
and Hyrum is the third element of the three stage rhetorical device. 
The prior two elements amplify the effect of the third in the hearts
and minds of the listeners and readers.  The stretch from Moroni’s
testimony of Christ to a dying testimony of Hyrum and Joseph strains
the limits of logic for some.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Elder Holland has characterized Hyrum’s reading out of the Book of
Mormon prior to his and Joseph’s journey to Carthage as a “last days”
testimony that is their dying testimony because they knew they would be
imminently be killed.  It is not clear why Hyrum’s reading several
verses from the Book of Mormon constitutes a dying testimony more than
any other readings or declarations in those circumstances, but Elder
Holland declares it to be so, perhaps because it is implied in the
Doctrine and Covenants by the use of the word, ”testators. ”  This is a
confusing non sequitur, and a logical fallacy.  It is true that it is
recorded that Joseph said, “I am going like a lamb to the slaughter .” 
This seems to indicate that Joseph knew that he and Hyrum would be
killed, or at least believed that it was highly likely.  It is unclear
whether Hyrum actually thought the same thing , further calling into
question the characterization that Hyrum’s reading could constitute a
“dying testimony.”  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
However, other significant evidence suggests that Joseph did not
believe he was facing imminent death.  While not an exhaustive list,
several of these evidences will be considered.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    Joseph removed his temple garments and told others to do the
same.    One has to wonder why he would do this if he were preparing to
meet God imminently.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    Joseph destroyed the original revelation of plural marriage (now
D&amp;C Section 132) [leaving a copy with Newel K. Whitney] just prior
to going to Carthage .  One has to wonder why he would do this if he
were preparing to meet God imminently.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    Joseph had guns smuggled into the Carthage jail for protection.  
If he knew that he was going to die a martyr’s death, why would he make
this preparation to defend himself and to live?</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    In direct violation of the Word of Wisdom, Joseph, Hyrum, and
others present in the Carthage jail, drank wine and smoked tobacco.   
Why would they do this if they were preparing to meet God imminently?</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    Joseph requested that the Nauvoo Legion march on Carthage jail and
rescue both Hyrum and him.   Why make this preparation for life if he
knew he was imminently going to die?</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    When the mob that killed him first came toward Carthage jail, he
calmed the jailers saying, “Don't trouble yourself, they have come to
rescue me, ” thinking the mob was the Nauvoo Legion, coming at his
command.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    As shots were fired and after Joseph emptied his gun shooting down
the jail stairwell , he ran to the jail window in a last desperate
attempt to save his own life, attempting the Masonic distress call, “O
Lord My God! Is there no help for the widow's son?”  This Masonic
distress call would presumably invite help and assistance from fellow
Masons.   Why would he call for help if he knew he was going to die?</span><br>
<br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">A few short verses from the 12th chapter of Ether in the Book of
Mormon. Before closing the book, Hyrum turned down the corner of the
page from which he had read, marking it as part of the everlasting
testimony for which these two brothers were about to die. [E1]  I hold
in my hand that book, the very copy [E1] from which Hyrum read, the
same corner of the page turned down still visible. Later, when actually
incarcerated in the jail, Joseph the Prophet turned to the guards who
held him captive and bore a powerful testimony of the divine
authenticity of the Book of Mormon. Shortly thereafter pistol and ball
would take the lives of these two testators.</span><br></blockquote><p>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>E1 – The Very Book.</strong>  Elder Holland claims that Hyrum’s turning down the
corner of a page after reading it marks an everlasting testimony. 
Following previously made points, reading from a book does not
constitute a testimony, unless the testator stated it was.  The use of
the phrase, “everlasting testimony,” suggests an equivalent to a “dying
testimony,” although it is not stated directly as such.  Additionally,
it is unclear whether Hyrum thought he was going to die imminently.  It
is clear that Joseph is reported to have said he was going to die, but
other concurrent actions suggests that he had no intention of dying
while traveling to, being rescued at, or returning from Carthage.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Elder Holland’s holding and displaying what he claims to be the very
book from which Hyrum read just prior to their death, while interesting
and engaging, is irrelevant.  This is an effective oratory rhetorical
device.  However, whether Elder Holland was holding the very book from
which Hyrum read does not change the meaning or the validity of his
argument.  Holding the very book may influence people to think and
believe his overall argument is more factual and compelling, when in
fact, it is exactly the same, with all of its inherent strengths and
weaknesses.  Separately, while there are valid questions regarding the
provenance of the specific book which Elder Holland was holding, the
actual provenance is irrelevant.  The use of such props is a known
technique for emphasizing the emotional impact of an address as well as
de-emphasizing critical thinking and analysis.</span><br>
<br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">As one of a thousand elements of my own testimony of the divinity of
the Book of Mormon I submit this as yet one more evidence of its
truthfulness. [F1]  In this their greatest—and last—hour of need, I ask
you—would these men blaspheme before God by continuing to fix their
lives, their honor and their own search for eternal salvation on a book
(and by implication a church and a ministry) they had fictitiously
created out of whole cloth? [F2]</span><br></blockquote><p>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>F1 – Evidence of Truthfulness.</strong>  Elder Holland has suggested that his
linkage of Moroni’s testimony of Christ to Hyrum’s reading a few verses
from the Book of Mormon just prior to traveling to Carthage where he
was killed constitutes a powerful dying or everlasting testimony of the
truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.  He claims this to be strong
evidence for that proposition.  This series of non sequiturs is a
confusing linkage of events, which does not constitute strong evidence
of the truthfulness, or the divine origins of the Book of Mormon. 
Suggesting it is strong evidence is a logical fallacy, an appeal to his
own authority as an apostle.  Although it is a heartrending story, it
is difficult to understand why Elder Holland would claim this series of
events, tenuously linked only in a talk, is evidence which he would
submit of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>F2 – Blaspheme before God.</strong>  Elder Holland carries forward the confusing
non sequitur that Hyrum’s reading a few verses from the Book of Mormon
prior to traveling to Carthage constitutes an everlasting testimony of
a dying man.  It is not clear whether Joseph and Hyrum firmly believed
that they were going to die.  Even if they did, reading a few verses
from the Book of Mormon hardly constitutes a dying testimony, unless
Hyrum specifically stated it as such.  He did not.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Elder Holland suggests that Hyrum and Joseph were given the opportunity
to recant their story regarding the origins of the Book of Mormon in
exchange for their lives.  There is no evidence that this ever
occurred.  This suggestion is yet another non sequitur from which he
draws the questionable conclusion that they chose not to blaspheme God
by denying the divine origins of the Book of Mormon.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
He also extends the argument by implying that because they did not deny
the divine origins of the Book of Mormon, the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints is God’s true church.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
One further issue with this line of reasoning is that none of the
naturalistic theories regarding Book of Mormon authorship suggest that
Hyrum had any part, nor knew anything about the authorship of the Book
of Mormon, aside from the canonized version of its authorship.  As
such, pulling Hyrum into the equation is a logical fallacy.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Additionally, a review of other religious leaders who died without
recanting their respective positions would suggest that there are many
religious texts (e.g. Qu’ran, Book of the Law of the Lord), and by
extension, religious faiths that are equally as valid as the Book of
Mormon and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.</span><br>
<br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland:  </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Never mind that their wives are about to be widows and their children
fatherless. Never mind that their little band of followers will yet be
“houseless, homeless and friendless” and that their children will leave
“footprints of blood” across frozen rivers and an untamed prairie
floor. Never mind that legions will die and other legions live
declaring in the four quarters of the earth that they know the Book of
Mormon and the Church which espouses it to be true.   [G1] Disregard
all of that and tell me whether in this hour of death these two men
would enter the presence of their Eternal Judge quoting from and
finding solace in a book which, if not the very word of God, would
brand them as imposters and charlatans until the end of time? [G2] 
They would not do that! [G3]  They were willing to die rather than deny
the divine origin and the eternal truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. 
[G4]</span><br></blockquote><p>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>G1 – Never Mind.</strong>  Elder Holland’s impassioned portrayal of a series of
heart-rending events that are known after the fact, as if Joseph and
Hyrum would have known them before the fact, as a consequence of a
fictional deal which they were never offered is another rhetorical
device intended to draw out emotions from the listener or reader but is
not grounded in either logic or historical fact.  The careful listener
or reader could question why Elder Holland would present this
troublesome line of reasoning.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>G2 – Hour of Death.</strong>  As has been discussed previously, it is far from
certain that either Hyrum or Joseph believed that they were near the
hour of death.  It is clear that they understood that they were
endangered, but their death was not a foregone conclusion.  If the
actual origins of the Book of Mormon were other than divine, there are
no authorship theories which suggest Hyrum would have known. 
Suggesting, again, that Hyrum’s reading from the Book of Mormon was his
and Joseph’s dying testimony of its truthfulness, so they would not
offend God is rather presumptuous of Elder Holland.  The harsh words,
“imposters and charlatans,” are another rhetorical device, specifically
a false dichotomy, that accentuates the emotional response to the idea
of these men standing before their “Eternal Judge.”</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>G3 – They Would Not. </strong> With emphasis, Elder Holland proclaims, with
absolute certainty, that Hyrum, and presumably Joseph, just prior to
traveling to Carthage, would not read from the Book of Mormon if either
one of them knew that the Book of Mormon was not of divine origin. 
That he knows the will and mind of these men at that point in time is
dressing his speculations in the robes of certainty.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>G4 – Rather Die.</strong>  Elder Holland again reiterates the deal for which
there is no evidence.  His portrayal of the situation is that Hyrum and
Joseph were given a choice of denying the divine origins of the Book of
Mormon or being killed.  Of that choice, he said they were willing to
die.  This is a red herring.  It is a distraction used as a powerful
rhetorical device that emerges from a series of fallacious non
sequiturs.  This red herring is offered as firm proof and evidence for
the authenticity of the Book of Mormon.  This rhetorical device is
fraught with assumptions and broad license to interpret circumstantial
evidence to create a heart-rending tale.  By this point in Elder
Holland’s talk, the careful listener or reader may be so confused by
the array of rhetorical devices, logical fallacies, and non sequiturs,
he or she has difficulty ascertaining the actual meaning and validity
of what Elder Holland is saying.</span><br>
<br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">For one hundred and seventy-nine years this book has been examined and
attacked, denied and deconstructed, targeted and torn apart like
perhaps no other book in modern religious history—perhaps like no other
book in any religious history. And still it stands. Failed theories
about its origins have been born, parroted and died—from Ethan Smith to
Solomon Spaulding to deranged paranoid to cunning genius. [H1]  None of
these frankly pathetic answers for this book has ever withstood
examination [H2] because there is no other answer than the one Joseph
gave as its young unlearned translator.  [H3]  In this I stand with my
own great-grandfather who said simply enough, “No wicked man could
write such a book as this, and no good man would write it, unless it
were true and he were commanded of God to do so.” [H4]</span><br></blockquote><p>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>H1 – Failed Theories.</strong>  Stunningly, Elder Holland labels four
naturalistic theories of Book of Mormon authorship as “failed
theories.”  One wonders if observers with no vested interest would
consider them failed.  Since he does not analyze them in his address,
one wonders by what criteria Elder Holland judged each of these
theories to be failed.  One can’t help but wonder if Elder Holland has
objectively subjected the canonized description of the divine origins
of the Book of Mormon to the same criteria of judgment.  A very brief
summary of each theory mentioned by Elder Holland will be offered here,
with a more extensive description for the first two given in Appendix
B.  It should be noted that these theories are deemed by proponents as
plausible or probable, not certain.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    Ethan Smith published a book, View of the Hebrews, in 1823, which
LDS church General Authority, Elder B. H. Roberts, said contained
striking parallels in content and storyline with the Book of Mormon.  
The theory is that Joseph and perhaps others could have used this book
as foundational material for creating the Book of Mormon.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    Solomon Spaulding wrote a manuscript, which went missing from a
Pittsburg print shop which Sidney Rigdon frequented in the 1812-1816
time-frame.   This manuscript is purported to be foundational material
for the Book of Mormon to which Sidney Rigdon added his Campbellite
doctrines.  Rigdon met Oliver Cowdrey when Cowdrey was working in Ohio
in the district in which Sidney was a circuit preacher.  Oliver,
Joseph’s second cousin, introduced Sidney to Joseph as both were
interested in bringing forth a book regarding the origins of the Native
Americans.  Current scholarship suggests an overlap of the Ethan Smith
and Solomon Spaulding theories.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    Deranged paranoid is Elder Holland’s label to describe a range of
theories surrounding Joseph’s presumed mental illness.  Altered mental
states created scenarios in which Joseph purportedly wrote the Book of
Mormon.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
•    Cunning genius is Elder Holland’s label to describe the theory
Joseph Smith was a genius con man who wrote the Book of Mormon by
himself in order to rescue his family from financial destitution.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>H2 – Frankly Pathetic.</strong>  The use of the rhetorical propaganda technique
of “name-calling,” while effective with unsophisticated listeners and
readers, does not impact the facts behind any of these theories.  It
also distresses informed listeners or readers.  Elder Holland’s calling
alternate theories of Book of Mormon authorship “frankly pathetic,”
does not make them any more or less valid.  The impact is the same as
if someone called the canonized version of the story given by Joseph
Smith “frankly pathetic.”  Name- calling is not proof and, to the
informed, doing so tends to weaken the arguments of those who do it. 
The reality is the theories identified by Elder Holland and other
naturalistic theories are still being investigated.  For many of these
theories, there is a growing body of evidence each year.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
To suggest that they have not withstood examination is to suggest that
apologetic dismissals are valid, factual, and verifiable arguments. 
These apologetic dismissals are not as compelling as some would hope,
being founded on plausible denials and speculative supports.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Hugh Nibley was the late 20th century prototypical LDS apologist.  His
views and pronouncements were and are viewed with awe, reverence, and
respect by many members of the church.  Although he was and is held in
respect by many LDS church members, those more fully aware of his
techniques and approaches tended to be much more critical.  Fellow BYU
professor, Kent P. Jackson, decried the validity of Nibley’s methods
and conclusions.   Additionally Bergera and Priddis noted, “[a]s a
former BYU history professor observed in 1984, '[Nibley] has been a
security blanket for Latter-day Saints to whom [cognitive] dissonance
is intolerable....His contribution to dissonance management is not so
much what he has written, but that he has written. After knowing Hugh
Nibley for forty years, I am of the opinion that he has been playing
games with his readers all along....Relatively few Latter-day Saints
read the Nibley books that they give one another, or the copiously
annotated articles that he has contributed to church publications. It
is enough for most of us that they are there.'”   </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Informed members are aware of the humble confidence expressed by
earlier leaders of the LDS church and wonder where Elder Holland’s
humble confidence is or if he even has any regarding the divine origin
of the Book of Mormon.  It seems to some that if he has to resort to
name-calling, his case must be very weak.  They recall the comment of
George A. Smith, who said, “If faith will not bear to be investigated;
if its preachers and professors are afraid to have it examined, their
foundation must be very weak. ”  They also recall the comment by Parley
P. Pratt, “. . . convince us of our errors of doctrine, if we have any,
by reason, by logical arguments, or by the word of God, and we will be
ever grateful for the information, and you will ever have the pleasing
reflection that you have been instruments in the hands of God of
redeeming your fellow beings from the darkness which you may see
enveloping their minds. ”  Also, J. Reuben Clark, when he said, “If we
have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not
the truth, it ought to be harmed. ”  Finally, specifically with regard
to the Book of Mormon, Elder Orson Pratt had confidence that a full and
critical inquiry into the Book of Mormon would vindicate the claim of
its divine origin.  He said, “This book must be either true or false. 
If true, it is one of the most important messages ever sent from
God….If false, it is one of the most cunning, wicked, bold, deep-laid
impositions ever palmed upon the world….If after rigid examination, it
be found an imposition, it should be extensively published to the world
as such; the evidences and arguments on which the imposture was
detected, should be clearly and logically stated…. ”  Many Church
members are hurt by Elder Holland’s seeming lack of humble confidence
in the divine origin of the Book of Mormon.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Is the church afraid of real scholarly critique and investigation?  Is
the Church really afraid of “failed theories” that are “frankly
pathetic?”  If not, why resort to common propaganda techniques in an
attempt to discredit them?</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>H3 – No Other Answer.</strong>  Not surprisingly, Elder Holland states with
certainty that there is no other answer aside from Joseph’s canonized
description of the origins of the Book of Mormon.  This claim is a
false dichotomy.  Extraordinary claims, however, require extraordinary
evidence.  The church has put forth no objectively and independently
verifiable evidence that suggests the canonized version is correct.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
To suggest that a supernatural explanation and a supernatural
verification of the origin of the Book of Mormon is the only
explanation for its origins requires that the same criteria be used
when assessing other sacred texts including, for example the Qu’ran,
The Book of the Law of the Lord, the Bhagavad Gita, etc.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
If the Church would accept the claim that the other sacred texts are of
divine origin, it calls into question the validity of the church’s
claim as God’s one and only true church.  If the Church calls into
question the divine origins of these sacred texts, it must submit the
Book of Mormon to the same standards of judgment to which it would
submit other sacred texts for verification.  Troubling to some members
is why Elder Holland seemingly would subject the Book of Mormon to one
set of criteria and all other sacred texts to a completely different
set of criteria.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>H4 – No Wicked Man.</strong>  There is no reason to doubt Elder Holland’s
sincerity when he said he agrees with his grandfather in saying, “[n]o
wicked man could write such a book as this, and no good man would write
it, unless it were true and he were commanded of God to do so.”  This
is honorable, understandable, and acceptable for what it is.  He is not
ambiguous in his position, conviction, or belief.  However, Elder
Holland uses this conviction as evidence of an irrefutable fact.  This
type of conviction is commonplace in the realm of religious claims,
including within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Members of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint
(now Community of Christ) had a firm conviction that Joseph Smith did
not practice polygamy and polyandry because he publicly stated that he
didn’t.   But their conviction was not supported by facts.   Islamic
suicide bombers have a conviction that they will be received into
heaven as martyrs.  But their conviction is unsupported by any
objective evidence.  Religious convictions do not equal objective fact,
despite the fervor of the conviction.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Interestingly, Elder Holland opens up for possibility yet another
commonly held Book of Mormon authorship theory.  In saying, “…no good
man would write it, unless it were true and he were commanded of God to
do so,” he opens the credible possibility that Joseph perceived that he
had received a commandment from God to write the Book of Mormon, and,
therefore, he did so, creating what may be called, an “inspired
fiction.”</span><br>
<br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">I testify that one cannot come to full faith in this latter day work
[I1] —and thereby find the fullest measure of peace and comfort for our
times [I2]—until he or she embraces the divinity of the Book of Mormon
[I3]and the Lord Jesus Christ of whom it testifies. If anyone is
foolish enough or misled enough to reject 531 pages of a heretofore
unknown text [I4] teeming with literary and Semitic complexity [I5]
without honestly attempting to account for the origin of those pages
somehow [I6]—especially without accounting for their powerful witness
of Jesus Christ and the profound spiritual impact that witness has had
on what is now tens of millions of readers—if that’s the case then such
persons, elect or otherwise, have been deceived [I7] and, if they leave
this Church, they must do so by crawling over or under or around the
Book of Mormon to make their exit.   In that sense the book is what
Christ Himself was said to be—“a stone of stumbling,...a rock of
offence,” a barrier in the path of one who wishes not to believe in
this work. [I8]  Witnesses, even witnesses who were for a time hostile
to Joseph, testified to their death that they had seen an angel and had
handled the plates. “They have been shown unto us by the power of God,
and not of man,” they declared. “Wherefore we know of a surety that the
work is true.” [I9]</span><br></blockquote><p>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I1 – Full Faith. </strong>Assuming that Elder Holland is referring to the
Restoration, it is reasonable to assume that a lack of belief in the
foundational stories of the Book of Mormon would equate to a lack of
full faith in the latter-day work as it is currently portrayed in the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I2 – Fullest Measure.</strong>  Given the peace and comfort many outside of the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints feel in their lives, it
seems presumptuous of Elder Holland to suggest that unless one accepts
the Book of Mormon people cannot find the fullest measure of peace and
comfort.  At the same time, Elder Holland is clear and direct in his
conviction regarding his view.  Some members view the world around them
and are confused by the contradiction between this claim of Elder
Holland and what they actually observe empirically.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I3 – Embracing the Divinity.</strong>  Embracing the divinity of the Book of
Mormon as a requirement for full peace and comfort in this life is
presumptuous on the part of Elder Holland.  Many people live in a peace
and comfort far greater than members of the church while they do not
accept the divinity of the Book of Mormon.  Many members of the church
do not accept the divine origins of the Book of Mormon, yet acknowledge
the inspiration and good that they have received by reading the Book of
Mormon.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I4 – Foolish Enough.</strong>  Calling people “foolish” again underscores the
argument-weakening use of name-calling, which is a propaganda technique
meant to elicit negative emotion and to demean the value of those being
called names.  Calling someone foolish and misled for not accepting the
divinity of the Book of Mormon is a common propaganda ploy having no
effect on the truthfulness of falsity of anyone’s position.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I5 – Semitic Complexity.</strong>  Elder Holland presumably here refers to the
Hebraic (and according to many, the human) tendency to chiasmus in
writing.  The Book of Mormon has sections which fit the criteria for
chiasmus.  This point is often overemphasized, given that Dr. Seuss
books have a greater tendency towards chiasmus than the Book of
Mormon.  No one claims that Dr. Seuss books have Semitic complexity or
divine origins.  Informed listeners and readers understand this and
wonder why Elder Holland would highlight this point.  Uninformed
listeners and readers may perceive that “Semitic complexity” is somehow
firm evidence of the divine origins of the Book of Mormon.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I6 - Accounting for the Origin.</strong>  Elder Holland seemingly forgets or is
unwilling to accept that there are honest attempts to explain the
origins of the Book of Mormon from a naturalistic point of view. 
These, and others, are the theories that he says are “frankly
pathetic.”  By inference, he is labeling all efforts to research,
develop, and put these theories forward for discussion as “dishonest.” 
How he reaches this conclusion is unknown; some may view it as
arrogance.  An honest examination of these theories underscores and
highlights that the vast majority of proposed authorship theories are
grounded in honest inquiry and honest scholarship.  It is difficult to
understand why Elder Holland would effectively characterize them all as
being founded in dishonesty.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I7 – Been Deceived. </strong> With much passion and conviction, Elder Holland,
without trial and without putting forward any real evidence, condemns
as deceived anyone who honestly holds the view that the Book of
Mormon’s origins are not entirely congruous with his understanding of
the stories published in the scriptural canon.  This is astonishing to
many members.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I8 – Crawling Around the Book of Mormon.</strong>  Elder Holland has
characterized the Book of Mormon as a barrier to those who “wish not to
believe.”  There are several problems with this characterization.  The
first problem being the suggestion that those who leave the LDS church
simply wish not to believe.  The reality is that the reverse is more
often true.  People who leave the church most often fervently wish to
believe.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
To members who know people who have left the church, Elder Holland’s
characterization is confusing at best, and dishonest, hurtful, and
disparaging at worst.  It highlights to them that Elder Holland either
does not understand why people leave the Church, or does not care.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Many who choose to leave have held onto the Book of Mormon as their
last bastion of hope that the church is true before that hope finally
gives way.  Elder Holland uses a variety of prepositions, “over or
under or around,” to suggest the physical maneuvering required for
someone who “wish[es] not to believe,” to leave the church. 
Interestingly, he neglects to use the preposition, “through.”  Many who
ultimately leave the church would characterize their process with the
Book of Mormon as going “through” it on their way out of the church.  A
representative but poignant recounting of a journey was relayed to me by an
anonymous woman:  </span><br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
When people have been willing to actually sit down with me and ask me
why I left the church, I have told them, ‘If the Book of Mormon is
true, then the current church isn't practicing what's in it, and if the
current church is true, then they don't need the Book of Mormon 'cause
it doesn't have much in it to support the current practices.’ </span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
About 7 years ago, I bought a paperback copy of the Book of Mormon and
I used a red pencil to underline everything in the text that I felt was
a "...Testament of Jesus Christ" My intention at the time was to show a
friend who had been well taught that Mormons aren’t Christians that we
did indeed hold up Christ as our Savior. </span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
About 6 years ago, following the advice of someone I considered to be a
wise and spiritual man, I gathered together all the ‘Teachings of...’
the prophets that I could find and I started reading backwards from
Gordon B. Hinckley. I got a very good picture of the workings of the
church and what the leaders feel is important (confession/repentance of
sin, tithing, temple work/sealing power) and I started to see the
church as a very Old Testament kind of organization. By then I was
reading the D&amp;C and found it to also be very Old Testament-y. </span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
And then I got to spend all those months in [quiet contemplation]. I
decided that the Book of Mormon would be the most comforting and useful
to my heart so I was back to reading it almost exclusively and I really
believe that that is where my testimony came apart. </span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Trying to find justification in the Book of Mormon for the current
practices of the church is really hard to do. It is now used as a
validation for Joseph Smith. "He translated it. It's good. He's good.
We're good."</span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
It really is true that I went THROUGH the Book of Mormon on my way out of the church.  </span><br></blockquote><p>





<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Many people have gone through the Book of Mormon on their way out of
the church. After careful, prayerful and considered study and
searching, they have determined that from their perspective they do not
see that the Church teaches the fullness of the gospel as contained in
the Book of Mormon.  They perceive the inconsistency to be stark,
irreconcilable, and real.  Is the honest searching of these people that
leads them right through the heart of the Book of Mormon irrelevant and
not worthy of honest, sympathetic consideration, and open, frank
discussion within the church?  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Additionally, the Book of Mormon is often a barrier to those who
actually do wish to believe.  Many have prayed fervently, believing
that Moroni’s promise  would provide them with a correct knowledge of
the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.  They are discouraged when they
do not receive a recognizable answer.  This becomes a barrier to
belief.  For Elder Holland to present only one side of the story and
ignore the other, equally legitimate side, is yet another rhetorical
device, and a logical fallacy of card stacking, aimed at creating an
emotional response in the audience.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>I9 – Witnesses Testified</strong>.  Elder Holland presents elements of the
testimonies of the Three and Eight Witnesses as included in the Book of
Mormon.  He represents that none ever denied their testimonies of the
Book of Mormon.  The picture he paints is disheartening to those
members who are informed, expecting that he would paint a more complete
picture if he chose to focus on the 11 witnesses.  The testimonies were
written, presumably by Oliver Cowdery, but possibly by Joseph, and
presented to the witnesses to sign rather than the witnesses
collaborating and writing of their own, presumably shared experiences. 
Martin Harris reported that the eleven witnesses hesitated to sign the
statements for this reason.   This is important in that while none of
the witnesses ever publicly denied their testimony, many of them
publicly clarified their testimony and there is evidence that at least
two privately denied their testimony.   Three of the eleven witnesses
clarified that their seeing the plates was not with their physical, but
their spiritual eyes, while Harris claimed that none of the witnesses
viewed the plates with their physical eyes.   </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Additionally, if we accept as evidence of the divinity of the Book of
Mormon the testimonies of the 11 witnesses, as Elder Holland suggests,
by like reasoning and logic we should accept the testimonies of the 11
witnesses to The Book of the Law of the Lord as evidence for the
divinity of that work.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Upon Joseph’s death, church member James J. Strang presented a letter
to Church leaders in Nauvoo, presumably from Joseph, in his
handwriting.  The letter indicated that the mantle of prophet should be
passed to Strang.   Strang and some his followers were led to some
metallic plates, which they dug up.  The plates had curious writings,
which Strang translated using the “Urim and Thummim,” resulting in The
Book of the Law of the Lord.  Like the witnesses of the Book of Mormon,
the 11 witnesses of the Book of the Law of the Lord signed their
testimonies of its divine origin.   None of these 11 witnesses are
reported to have denied their testimony of this book.  Of the 11
witnesses, two had belonged to the LDS church in Nauvoo, Ebenezer Page
and Jehiel Savage.  Using the same reasoning Elder Holland uses for the
Book of Mormon witnesses, The Book of the Law of the Lord must stand as
an equal text, divine in origin.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Moreover, if we were to accept the logic of the validity of the
witnesses of the Book of Mormon, we should also accept the validity of
the testimony of the seven independent witnesses that individually,
separately, and legally testified that Solomon Spaulding wrote the core
part of the Book of Mormon. </span><br>
<br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Now, I did not sail with the brother of Jared in crossing an ocean and
settling in a new world. I did not hear King Benjamin speak his
angelically delivered sermon. I did not proselyte with Alma and Amulek
nor witness the fiery death of innocent believers. I was not among the
Nephite crowd who touched the wounds of the Resurrected Lord, nor did I
weep with Mormon and Moroni over the destruction of an entire
civilization. But my testimony of this record and the peace it brings
to the human heart is as binding and unequivocal as was theirs. Like
them “I give my name unto the world, to witness unto the world that
which I have seen.” And like them, “I lie not, God bearing witness of
it.” I ask that my testimony of the Book of Mormon and all that it
implies, given today under my own oath and my office, be recorded by
men on earth and angels in heaven. I hope I have a few years left in my
“last days,” but whether I do or do not, I want it absolutely clear
when I stand before the judgment bar of God that I declared to the
world, in the most straightforward language I could summon, that the
Book of Mormon is true, that it came forth the way Joseph said it came
forth, [J1] and was given to bring happiness and hope to the faithful
in the travail of the last days.</span><br></blockquote><p>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>J1 – The Book of Mormon is True.</strong>  Elder Holland’s conviction and belief
is clear and unequivocal, but conviction does not necessarily equate to
fact.  Allowing that there can be a gap between conviction and fact
should allow honest members of the church to explore and understand the
facts and “study them out in their own minds,” as the Lord had
commanded, and make an honest assessment of those facts.</span><br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">My witness echoes that of Nephi who wrote part of the book in his “last days”:</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
 </span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
“Hearken unto these words and believe in Christ; and if ye believe not
in these words believe in Christ. And if ye shall believe in Christ
[you shall believe] these words, for they are the words of
Christ,...and they teach all men that they should do good.</span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
 </span><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
“And if they are not the words of Christ, judge ye—for Christ will show
unto you, with power and great glory, that they are his words, at the
last day….” [K1]</span><br></blockquote><p>


<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>K1 – Hearken unto These Words.</strong>  A quotation from the Book of Mormon is
not proof of its validity, particularly given the circular logic
required to believe that it is.  Similarly, it is not proof of its
invalidity, but that is not the question.  The supposition is that
these words are true.  Many believers in Christ would be astounded by
this logic.  For many of them, belief in Christ is the foundation for
their dismissal of the Book of Mormon as a 19th century work of
fiction.  The emphasis and use of logic which is circular is
unpersuasive to careful listeners and readers.</span><br>
</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong>Elder Holland: </strong></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Brothers and sisters, God always provides safety for the soul. And with
the Book of Mormon He has again done that in our time. Remember this
declaration by Jesus Himself, “Whoso treasureth up my word shall not be
deceived” ---and in the last days neither your heart nor your faith
will fail you. [L1]  Of this I earnestly testify, in the name of Jesus
Christ, amen.</span><br></blockquote><p>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>L1 – Shall Not Be Deceived.</strong>  Many religious people believe that if they
treasure up the word of God from their respective sacred texts, they
will not be deceived.  They sincerely treasure the words that they
believe to be of God, and therefore feel like they have the truth and
are not deceived.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
While it is true that they may have a deep conviction of the
truthfulness of their scripture, this does not account for the
discrepancies and contradictions among and between the various sacred
texts that religions around the world hold dear.  Many people of a wide
variety of religious traditions would say that by treasuring up their
sacred texts, “…neither your heart nor your faith will fail you.”  This
is a primary purpose behind each sacred text, meant to bring a closer
connection between man and God.  Supposing that the Book of Mormon
somehow transcends this and stands alone as a unique, sacred text, is
problematic to many LDS church members who would expect humble
confidence with respect to their treasured Book of Mormon.</span><br>
<br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>Summary</strong></span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
While many members of the Church found Elder Holland’s talk to be
thrilling, exciting, and vindicating, others were disheartened by this
talk.  The confusion spans many areas throughout the talk.  Elder
Holland’s display of passion and emotion is very uncommon at General
Conference.  To see Elder Holland passionately sad, angry, defiant,
happy, and resolute through the course of the talk was disquieting to
many.  The pervasive use rhetorical devices throughout the talk
detracted mightily from Elder Holland’s core message of his testimony
of the divinity of the Book of Mormon.  Logical fallacies, propaganda
techniques, and non sequiturs stitched together a talk that, while
having emotional impact, was largely devoid of logic.  These rhetorical
devices and communication techniques caused many to wonder why in the
world Elder Holland would abandon his intellectual background and stoop
to the trade of a rhetorician.  Many lost hope in the one apostle who
seemed to hear and at least attempt to understand the marginalized
intellectual segment  of the Church population.  Many were deeply
saddened as they watched Elder Holland as he stood at the pulpit during
General Conference and trammeled honest scholarship and marginalized
the spiritual, emotional, and psychological need that many have to
learn, understand, evaluate and study aspects of the Church unavailable
in the standard Church curriculum.  </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
The hope and intent of this analysis is to provide local leaders with
the opportunity to understand that many are confused, hurt, and even
distraught over Elder Holland’s talk.  There are real and identifiable
reasons within the talk why these people feel the way that they do. 
These people need comfort, compassion, and acceptance, not blanket
condemnation.  Please reach out to these people even if you perceive
them to be the “lost sheep.”  As Christ said, “What man of you, having
an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and
nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find
it?” (Luke 15:4)  Thank you for your service as shepherd or stewards
over the members of the church in your area.  God bless you. </span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
 </span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>APPENDIX A</strong></span><strong><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Joseph Smith Senior’s Dream of the Tree of Life</span></strong>
<br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    I thought...I was traveling in an open, desolate field, which
appeared to be very barren. As I was thus traveling, the thought
suddenly came into my mind that I had better stop and reflect upon what
I was doing, before I went any further. So I asked myself, "What motive
can I have in traveling here, and what place can this be?" My guide,
who was by my side, as before, said, "This is the desolate world; but
travel on." The road was so broad and barren that I wondered why I
should travel in it; for, said I to myself, "Broad is the road, and
wide is the gate that leads to death, and many there be that walk
therein; but narrow is the way, and straight is the gate that leads to
everlasting' life, and few there be that go in thereat." </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    Traveling a short distance farther, I came to a narrow path. This
path I entered, and, when I had traveled a little way in it, I beheld a
beautiful stream of water, which ran from the east to the west. Of this
stream I could see neither the source nor yet the termination; but as
far as my eyes could extend I could see a rope running along the bank
of it, about as high as a man could reach, and beyond me was a low, but
very pleasant valley, in which stood a tree such as I had never seen
before. It was exceedingly handsome, insomuch that I looked upon it
with wonder and admiration. Its beautiful branches spread themselves
somewhat like an umbrella, and it bore a kind of fruit, in shape much
like a chestnut bur, and as white as snow, or, if possible whiter. I
gazed upon the same with considerable interest, and as I was doing so
the burs or shells commenced opening and shedding their particles, or
the fruit which they contained, which was of dazzling whiteness. I drew
near and began to eat of it, and I found it delicious beyond
description. As I was eating, I said in my heart, "I can not eat this
alone, I must bring my wife and children, that they may partake with
me." Accordingly, I went and brought my family, which consisted of a
wife and seven children, and we all commenced eating, and praising God
for this blessing. We were exceedingly happy, insomuch that our joy
could not easily be expressed. </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    While thus engaged, I beheld a spacious building standing opposite
the valley which we were in, and it appeared to reach to the very
heavens. It was full of doors and windows, and they were filled with
people, who were very finely dressed. When these people observed us in
the low valley, under the tree, they pointed the finger of scorn at us,
and treated us with all manner of disrespect and contempt. But their
contumely we utterly disregarded. </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    I presently turned to my guide, and inquired of him the meaning of
the fruit that was so delicious. He told me it was the pure love of
God, shed abroad in the hearts of all those who love him, and keep his
commandments. He then commanded me to go and bring the rest of my
children. I told him that we were all there. "No," he replied, "look
yonder, you have two more, and you must bring them also." Upon raising
my eyes, I saw two small children, standing some distance off. I
immediately went to them, and brought them to the tree; upon which they
commenced eating with the rest, and we all rejoiced together. The more
we ate, the more we seemed to desire, until we even got down upon our
knees, and scooped it up, eating it by double handfuls. </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    After feasting in this manner a short time, I asked my guide what
was the meaning of the spacious building which I saw. He replied, "It
is Babylon, it is Babylon, and it must fall. The people in the doors
and windows are the inhabitants thereof, who scorn and despise the
Saints of God because of their humility." </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    I soon awoke, clapping my hands together for joy.  (Lucy Mack
Smith, Joseph Smith, The Prophet And His Progenitors For Many
Generations, 1845.)</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
 </span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
<strong>APPENDIX B</strong></span><strong><br><br><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Summary of Two Alternative Book of Mormon Authorship Theories</span></strong>

<br>
<br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Ethan Smith – View of the Hebrews</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
This summary is taken in whole from Wikipedia. </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
View of the Hebrews</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
View of the Hebrews is an 1823 book written by Ethan Smith (December
19, 1762–August 29, 1849) which argues that Native Americans were
descended from the Hebrews. Numerous commentators on Mormon doctrine,
from LDS Church general authority B. H. Roberts to biographer Fawn M.
Brodie, have discussed the possibility that View of the Hebrews may
have provided source material for the Book of Mormon, which Mormons
believe was translated from ancient golden plates by Joseph Smith, Jr.
[1]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Biography of Ethan Smith</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Ethan Smith, unrelated to Joseph Smith, was a New England
Congregationalist clergyman. Born into a pious home in Belchertown,
Massachusetts, Smith abandoned religion after the early deaths of his
parents.[2] After a prolonged inner struggle he joined the
Congregational Church in 1781, and shortly thereafter began training
for the ministry, graduating from Dartmouth College in 1790, though
finding "but little of the spirit of religion there."[2]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
After serving congregations in New Hampshire, Vermont, and
Massachusetts, Smith accepted an appointment as "City Missionary" in
Boston and also served as a supply pastor for vacant pulpits. "He was a
warm friend of what he accounted pure revivals of religion; though he
was careful to distinguish the precious from the vile" in matters of
religious experience. Smith enjoyed a "robust constitution and vigorous
health" and continued to preach until within two weeks of his death. At
eighty his sight "became very dim, and he was no longer able to read,
though he never became totally blind. So familiar was he with the Bible
and Watts, that it was his uniform custom to open the book in the
pulpit, and give out the chapter and hymn, and seem to read them; and
he very rarely made a mistake, to awaken a suspicion that he was
repeating from memory."[2]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Besides View of the Hebrews, Smith published A Dissertation on the
Prophecies (1809), A Key to the Figurative Language of the Prophecies
(1814), A View of the Trinity, designed as an answer to Noah Webster's
Bible News (1821), Memoirs of Mrs. Abigail Bailey, Four Lectures on the
Subjects and Mode of Baptism, A Key to the Revelation (1833), and
Prophetic Catechism to Lead to the Study of the Prophetic Scriptures
(1839). Ethan Smith died in Royalston, Massachusetts in 1849.[2]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Smith lived in Poultney, Vermont, the same town as Oliver Cowdery, who
later acted as Joseph Smith's scribe for the Book of Mormon. Ethan
Smith also pastored the Congregational church that Cowdery's family
attended from 1821 to 1826 while he was writing View of the Hebrews.[3]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Thesis of View of the Hebrews</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
The first edition of Ethan Smith's View of the Hebrews was published in
1823, and a second expanded edition appeared in 1825.[4] Ethan Smith's
theory, not uncommon among theologians and laymen of his day, was that
Native Americans were descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, who
had disappeared after being taken captive by the Assyrians in the 8th
century BCE.[5] Terryl Givens calls the work "an inelegant blend of
history, excerpts, exhortation, and theorizing."[6]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Smith's speculation took flight from a verse in the Apocrypha, 2 Esdras
13:41,[7] which says that the Ten Tribes traveled to a far country,
"where never mankind dwelt"—which Smith interpreted to mean America.
During Smith's day speculation about the Ten Lost Tribes was heightened
both by a renewed interest in biblical prophecy and by the belief that
the aboriginal peoples who had been swept aside by Europeans settlers
could not have created the sophisticated burial mounds found in North
America. Smith attempted to rescue Indians from the contemporary mound
builder myth by making Native Americans "potential converts worthy of
salvation."[8] "If our natives be indeed from the tribes of Israel,"
Smith wrote, "American Christians may well feel, that one great object
of their inheritance here, is, that they may have a primary agency in
restoring those 'lost sheep of the house of Israel.'"[9]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Parallels between View of the Hebrews and the Book of Mormon</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
It has been argued that there are significant parallels between View of
the Hebrews and the Book of Mormon. In 1922 B.H. Roberts (1857–1933), a
prominent LDS apologist and historian,[10] was asked to answer a
non-believer's five critical questions by LDS Apostle James E. Talmage.
It is unclear when Roberts first learned of the View of the Hebrews or
what motivated him to make the comparison, but he produced a
confidential report that summarized eighteen points of similarity
between the two works.[11]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
In a letter to LDS Church president Heber J. Grant and other church
officials, Roberts urged "all the brethren herein addressed becoming
familiar with these Book of Mormon problems, and finding the answer for
them, as it is a matter that will concern the faith of the Youth of the
Church now as also in the future, as well as such casual inquirers as
may come to us from the outside world."[12] Roberts' list of parallels
included:</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * extensive quotation from the prophecies of Isaiah in the Old Testament</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * the Israelite origin of the American Indian</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * the future gathering of Israel and restoration of the Ten Lost Tribes</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * the peopling of the New World from the Old via a long journey northward which encountered "seas" of "many waters"</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * a religious motive for the migration</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * the division of the migrants into civilized and uncivilized
groups with long wars between them and the eventual destruction of the
civilized by the uncivilized</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * the assumption that all native peoples were descended from Israelites and their languages from Hebrew</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * the burial of a "lost book" with "yellow leaves"</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * the description of extensive military fortifications with military observatories or "watch towers" overlooking them</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * a change from monarchy to republican forms of government</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    * the preaching of the gospel in ancient America.[13]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Roberts continued to affirm his faith in the divine origins of the Book
of Mormon until his death in 1933, but as Terryl Givens has written, "a
lively debate has emerged over whether his personal conviction really
remained intact in the aftermath of his academic investigations."[14]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Fawn Brodie, the first important historian to write a non-hagiographic
biography of Joseph Smith,[15] believed that Joseph Smith's theory of
the Hebraic origin of the American Indians came "chiefly" from View of
the Hebrews. "It may never be proved that Joseph saw View of the
Hebrews before writing the Book of Mormon," wrote Brodie in 1945, "but
the striking parallelisms between the two books hardly leave a case for
mere coincidence."[16] On the other hand, Mormon apologists argue that
the parallels between the works are weak, over-emphasized, or
non-existent.[17]</span><br>
<br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Solomon Spaulding – Manuscript Found</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
This summary is taken in whole from Wikipedia. </span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Spalding–Rigdon theory of Book of Mormon authorship</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
The Spalding–Rigdon theory of Book of Mormon authorship is the theory
that the Book of Mormon was plagiarized in part from an unpublished
manuscript written by Solomon Spalding. This theory first appeared in
print in the book Mormonism Unvailed,[1] published in 1834 by E.D.
Howe. The theory claims that the Spalding manuscript was at some point
acquired by Sidney Rigdon, who used it in collusion with Joseph Smith,
Jr. to produce the Book of Mormon. Although publicly stated that it was
through reading the Book of Mormon that Rigdon joined the Mormon
church,[1] the Spalding–Rigdon theory argues that the story was a later
invention to cover the book's allegedly true origins.</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Spalding manuscript and the Book of Mormon</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
While living in Conneaut, Ohio, in the early nineteenth century,
Solomon Spalding (1761–1816) began writing a work of fiction about the
lost civilization of the mound builders of North America. Spalding
shared his story, entitled Manuscript Story[2] with members of his
family and some of his associates in Conneaut, as well as his friends
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and Amity, Washington County, Pennsylvania,
where he lived prior to his death. However, Manuscript Story was not
published during his lifetime. </span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
In 1832, Latter Day Saint missionaries Samuel H. Smith and Orson Hyde
visited Conneaut, Ohio, and preached from the Book of Mormon. Nehemiah
King, a resident of Conneaut who knew Spalding when he lived there,
felt that the Mormon text resembled the story written by Spalding years
before. In 1833, at the urging of Doctor Philastus Hurlbut, King,
Spalding's widow, his brother John, and a number of other residents of
Conneaut signed affidavits stating that Spalding had written a
manuscript, portions of which were identical to the Book of Mormon.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Origins of the theory</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
The Spalding theory of authorship first appeared in print in Eber D.
Howe's 1834 book Mormonism Unvailed. Howe printed collection of
affidavits collected by Hurlbut. Hurlbut had heard of an unpublished
romance novel by Solomon Spalding as he was touring Pennsylvania giving
lectures against the Latter Day Saint church. Hurlbut concluded that
the description of the story in the manuscript bore some resemblance to
that of the Book of Mormon.[3] A contemporary of Hurlbut's, Benjamin
Winchester, states that Hurlbut "had learned that one Mr. Spaulding had
written a romance, and the probability was, that it had, by some means,
fallen into the hands of Sidney Rigdon, and that he had converted it
into the Book of Mormon." Upon learning this, Hurlbut determined to
obtain the manuscript.[4] Hurlbut learned that Sidney Rigdon had once
resided in Pittsburgh and that the manuscript had once been there, and
subsequently "endeavoured to make the finding of the manuscript take
place at Pittsburgh, and then infer, that S.R. [Sidney Rigdon] had
copied it there."[5]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Author Dan Vogel suggests that Hurlbut was not the originator of the
Spalding-Rigdon theory, noting that Hurlbut pursued this in response to
what he had heard about the manuscript and suggests that had Hurlbut
been the inventor of the theory "he would not have made strenuous
efforts to recover Spalding's manuscript."[6]</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
[edit] Statements from Spalding's neighbors and relatives</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Eight of the affidavits acquired by Hurlbut from Solomon Spalding's
family and associates stated that there were similarities between the
story and the Book of Mormon.[7]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
An example is the statement of Solomon Spalding's brother John, which
declared that Spalding's manuscript "gave a detailed account of their
journey from Jerusalem, by land and sea, till they arrived in America,
under the command of NEPHI and LEHI. They afterwards had quarrels and
contentions, and separated into two distinct nations, one of which he
denominated Nephites and the other Lamanites." Spalding's widow told a
similar story, and stated that "the names of Nephi and Lehi are yet
fresh in my memory, as being the principal heroes of his tale."[8]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Author Fawn Brodie expressed suspicion regarding these statements,
claiming that the style of the statements was too similar and displayed
too much uniformity. Brodie suggests that Hurlbut did a "little
judicious prompting."[9]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
However, an article published in the Hudson Ohio "Observer", (Masthead
of Vlll:15 - June 12, 1834), tells a different story. In the article,
the editor interviewed some of the Conneaut witnesses, who then told
the editor the same thing that they told to Hurlbut, even though they
had every opportunity to say anything they wished. The significance of
the article is that it appeared shortly after Hurlbut's trial in April
1834 and around six months before Howe's book, "Mormonism Unvailed",
was published, thus refuting the claims that the witnesses had been
coached by Hurlbut or that he had inaccurately reported their testimony.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Howe's response to the Spalding manuscript</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Hurlbut obtained a manuscript through Spalding's widow, and showed it
in public presentations in Kirtland, Ohio, in December 1833.[citation
needed] Hurlbut then became embroiled in a legal dispute with Joseph
Smith. Subsequently, Hurlbut delivered the documents he had collected
to Howe. Howe was unable to find the alleged similarities with the Book
of Mormon that were described in the statements and instead argued in
Mormonism Unveiled (1834) that there must exist a second Spalding
manuscript which was now lost. Howe concluded that Joseph Smith and
Sidney Ridgon used the Spalding manuscript to produce the Book of
Mormon for the purpose of making money.[10]</span><br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
[edit] Responses to the theory</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
In 1840, Benjamin Winchester, a Mormon defender who had been "deputed
... to hunt up the Hurlbut case,"[11] published a book rejecting the
Spalding theory as "a sheer fabrication." Winchester attributed the
creation of the entire story to Hurlbut.[12]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Regarding Sidney Rigdon's alleged involvement, Rigdon's son John recounted an interview with his father in 1865:</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
    My father, after I had finished saying what I have repeated above,
looked at me a moment, raised his hand above his head and slowly said,
with tears glistening in his eyes: "My son, I can swear before high
heaven that what I have told you about the origin of [the Book of
Mormon] is true. Your mother and sister, Mrs. Athalia Robinson, were
present when that book was handed to me in Mentor, Ohio, and all I ever
knew about the origin of [the Book of Mormon] was what Parley P. Pratt,
Oliver Cowdery, Joseph Smith and the witnesses who claimed they saw the
plates have told me, and in all of my intimacy with Joseph Smith he
never told me but one story."[13]</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
In 1884, a Spalding manuscript known as Manuscript Story was discovered
and published, and the manuscript now resides at Oberlin College in
Ohio.[14]. This manuscript appears to bear little resemblance to the
Book of Mormon story, but some critics claim it contains parallels in
theme and narrative.[citation needed] The second "lost" manuscript
purported to exist by Howe has never been discovered.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
A 2008 computer analysis of the text of the Book of Mormon compared to
writings of possible authors of the text shows a high probability that
the authors of the book were Spalding, Rigdon, and Oliver Cowdery;
concluding that "our analysis supports the theory that the Book of
Mormon was written by multiple, nineteenth-century authors, and more
specifically, we find strong support for the Spalding-Rigdon theory of
authorship. In all the data, we find Rigdon as a unifying force. His
signal dominates the book, and where other candidates are more
probable, Rigdon is often hiding in the shadows".[15] This study did
not include Joseph Smith as one of the possible authors, arguing that
because of Smith's use of scribes and co-authors, no texts can be
presently identified with a surety as having been written by Smith.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
The Stanford group (Jocker et al., 2008) found a strong Spalding signal
in Mosiah, Alma, the first part of Helaman, and Ether. The Spalding
signal was weak in those parts of the Book of Mormon likely produced
after the lost pages incident (1 Nephi, 2 Nephi, some of the middle
part of 3 Nephi, Moroni). They found the Rigdon signal distributed
throughout the Book of Mormon (except for the known Isaiah chapters),
and a weak Pratt signal in 1 Nephi. They also found a strong Cowdery
signal in mid-Alma and weaker Cowdery signals in locations that contain
content similar to Ethan Smith's "View of the Hebrews".</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
Previous wordprint or computer studies have come to different
conclusions (for a history of such studies from the perspective of a
LDS group, see
http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon/Wordprint_studies). A 1980
study done by John Hilton with non-LDS colleagues at Berkeley concluded
that the probability of Spaulding having been the (sole) author of book
of Nephi was less than 7.29 x 10-28 and less than 3 x 10-11 for
Alma[16].</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
In the Stanford group (Jocker et al., 2008) peer-reviewed publication
in the "Journal of Literary and Linguistic Computing", they reviewed
the (non-peer reviewed) Hilton study and pointed out numerous flaws in
it.</span><br>
<br><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">
They (Jocker et al., 2008) found that the Book of Alma is a mixture of
Rigdon, Cowdery, and Spalding. The Hilton study does not indicate what
text they used for Alma. If one lumps all the signals for Rigdon,
Cowdery, and Spalding together, one is left with a corrupt signal that
does not match Spalding.</span><br>
</p></div>]]></content:encoded><description>My good friend GDTeacher has kindly allowed me to post his in-depth analysis of Elder Holland's recent General Conference address titled "Safety for the Soul." I commented on the address myself in a recent entry. GDTeacher's analysis is more detailed...</description></item><item><title>An LDS Gem: Elder Holland's Opus</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2009/10/an-lds-gem-elder-hollands-opus.html</link><category>Jeffrey R. Holland</category><category>Mormon Apologetics</category><category>Mormon Doctrine</category><category>Mormonism</category><category>Religion</category><category>Book of Mormon</category><category>General Conference</category><category>Jeffrey R. Holland</category><category>Mormonism</category><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:43:18 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c688053ef0120a5cebc80970b</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">This past Saturday and Sunday, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints held its 179th Semi-Annual General Conference, at which Latter-day Saints (Mormons) gathered to hear sermons from their ecclesiastical leaders. At the afternoon session held on Sunday October 4, 2009, Elder Jeffrey R. Holland of the church's Quorum of the Twelve Apostles delivered a 16-minute address that quickly became the talk of the 10-hour-long conference.  The text of all General Conference addresses <a href="http://lds.org/conference/sessions/display/0,5239,23-1-1117,00.html" target="_blank">are available at the LDS church's web site.</a>  The text of Elder Holland's address <a href="http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-1117-28,00.html" target="_blank">can be found here</a>.  The church web site also makes the talks available in audio and video formats.  After the jump, I embed the talk as it appears on YouTube, in two parts, and then provide my commentary on it.  In sum, Elder Holland's talk is rife with lies and logical fallacies, and relies on emotional and psychological manipulation rather than rational argument to affect his audience.<br></span><p></p>

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<p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Many have already commented on this talk, and deservedly so.  Faithful members of the church have <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/10/04/sunday-afternoon-general-conference-the-only-true-and-living-session-with-which-the-nacle-is-well-pleased/" target="_blank">generally responded quite favorably</a> to it, though <a href="http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/10/sunday-afternoon-in-a-nutshell/" target="_blank">not without some dissenters</a> who were alarmed by the talk's strident tone.  Ex-Mormons and <a href="http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.php/discussions/viewthread/17981/" target="_blank">Post-Mormons</a> have had a <a href="http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.php/discussions/viewthread/18027/" target="_blank">decidedly negative</a> reaction.  LDS friends of mine gushed about it on their Facebook status updates, and the faithful LDS blogs were <a href="http://www.lifeongoldplates.com/2009/10/few-comments-on-elder-hollands.html" target="_blank">equally Morgasmic</a> over it.</span> I think the primary reason so many faithful members responded to the message with such delight is not the content of the sermon, which was pretty light on substance, actually, but because of the manner in which it was delivered.  Even zealously faithful Mormons acknowledge that General Conference addresses often have a soporific effect.  The typical delivery of the septuagenarian and octogenarian male speakers is slow and plodding and monotonous; the female speakers often speak in a grating, sickly sweet sing-songy style.  It is unusual for Mormon speakers to employ a lot of inflection in their voices, or to engage in exaggerated gestures.  It is rare for a Mormon apostle to raise his voice in a General Conference address.  So the fact that Elder Holland was clearly agitated, perhaps even angry as he nearly shouted some of the lines of his sermon, and the fact that he emphasized his points with arm-waving I think woke up a lot of the people who were zoning out rather than tuning in to General Conference.  Any sign that these guys actually have a pulse is enough to invigorate the faithful, it seems.  The odd (for Mormons) manner of his delivery is one reason I chose to embed the video here rather than just cut and paste from segments of the text.  Watch the video with the sound turned down.  Elder Holland really does have an angry countenance as he delivers his message.</p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">At the beginning of this post, I made three statements about Elder Holland's address.  I said that it was rife with lies, logical fallacies, and emotional and psychological manipulation.  I now take each of those assertions in turn.  First, the lies.  Elder Holland makes factual assertions that simply are not accurate.  He also tells a number of half-truths, in keeping with the LDS church's stated policy of only sharing facts that show their prophets in a positive light.  Elder Holland omits numerous details about the Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon and about the events leading up to the deaths of Hyrum and Joseph Smith at Carthage.  Elder Holland also misleads the audience about the prop he carries with him--the copy of the Book of Mormon that Hyrum Smith allegedly read from shortly before the death of him and his brother. Now, let's go through the sermon and count the lies and omissions:</p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;"><strong><span style="font-size: 20px; font-family: Times New Roman; text-decoration: underline;">1. The Lies</span></strong></p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">Elder Holland starts his address by citing a story from the Book of Mormon familiar to all Mormons, that of Lehi's dream.  From the Book of Mormon (partially quoted by Elder Holland), <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/1_ne/8" target="_blank">1 Nephi 8:4-28</a>: </p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;"> But behold, Laman and Lemuel, I fear exceedingly because of you; for
behold, methought I saw in my dream, a dark and dreary wilderness.


</p><div class="verse"><a name="5"></a>
<blockquote><div id="1_ne/8/6" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">And it came to pass that I saw a man, and he was dressed in a white robe; and he came and stood before me.<br></span></p>

<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> And it came to pass that he spake unto me, and bade me follow him.
</span></p></div></blockquote></div><blockquote><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;">
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="7"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/7" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p>And it came to pass that as I followed him I beheld myself that I was in a dark and dreary waste.</p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><p><a name="8"></a> And
after I had traveled for the space of many hours in darkness, I began
to pray unto the Lord that he would have mercy on me, according to the
multitude of his tender mercies. </p>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="9"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/9" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p>And it came to pass after I had prayed unto the Lord I beheld a large and spacious field. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="10"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/10" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> 
And it came to pass that I beheld a tree, whose fruit was desirable to make one happy.</p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="11"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/11" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
it came to pass that I did go forth and partake of the fruit thereof;
and I beheld that it was most sweet, above all that I ever before
tasted. Yea, and I beheld that the fruit thereof was white, to exceed
all the whiteness that I had ever seen. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="12"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/12" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
as I partook of the fruit thereof it filled my soul with exceedingly
great joy; wherefore, I began to be desirous that my family should
partake of it also; for I knew that it was desirable above all other
fruit.</p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="13"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/13" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
as I cast my eyes round about, that perhaps I might discover my family
also, I beheld a river of water; and it ran along, and it was near the
tree of which I was partaking the fruit.</p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="14"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/14" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
I looked to behold from whence it came; and I saw the head thereof a
little way off; and at the head thereof I beheld your mother Sariah,
and Sam, and Nephi; and they stood as if they knew not whither they
should go. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="15"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/15" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
it came to pass that I beckoned unto them; and I also did say unto them
with a loud voice that they should come unto me, and partake of the
fruit, which was desirable above all other fruit. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="16"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/16" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> 
And it came to pass that they did come unto me and partake of the fruit also. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="17"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/17" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
it came to pass that I was desirous that Laman and Lemuel should come
and partake of the fruit also; wherefore, I cast mine eyes towards the
head of the river, that perhaps I might see them. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="18"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/18" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> 
And it came to pass that I saw them, but they would not come unto me and partake of the fruit.</p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="19"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/19" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> 
And I beheld a rod of iron, and it extended along the bank of the river, and led to the tree by which I stood. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="20"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/20" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
I also beheld a strait and narrow path, which came along by the rod of
iron, even to the tree by which I stood; and it also led by the head of
the fountain, unto a large and spacious field, as if it had been a
world. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="21"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/21" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
I saw numberless concourses of people, many of whom were pressing
forward, that they might obtain the path which led unto the tree by
which I stood. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="22"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/22" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> 
And it came to pass that they did come forth, and commence in the path which led to the tree.</p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="23"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/23" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
it came to pass that there arose a mist of darkness; yea, even an
exceedingly great mist of darkness, insomuch that they who had
commenced in the path did lose their way, that they wandered off and
were lost. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="24"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/24" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> And
it came to pass that I beheld others pressing forward, and they came
forth and caught hold of the end of the rod of iron; and they did press
forward through the mist of darkness, clinging to the rod of iron, even
until they did come forth and partake of the fruit of the tree. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="25"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/25" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p> 
And after they had partaken of the fruit of the tree they did cast their eyes about as if they were ashamed. </p></div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="26"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/26" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"> And
I also cast my eyes round about, and beheld, on the other side of the
river of water, a great and spacious building; and it stood as it were
in the air, high above the earth.
</div>
</div><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a name="27"></a>
<div id="1_ne/8/28" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><p>And
it was filled with people, both old and young, both male and female;
and their manner of dress was exceedingly fine; and they were in the
attitude of mocking and pointing their fingers towards those who had
come at and were partaking of the fruit.And
after they had tasted of the fruit they were ashamed, because of those
that were scoffing at them; and they fell away into forbidden paths and
were lost.
</p></div></div></blockquote><div class="verse" style="font-family: Times New Roman;">

</div><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">Elder Holland quotes from a portion of this story from the Book of Mormon.  It is a curious choice, because Elder Holland, who later in his address will mock those who question the Book of Mormon's authenticity, fails to mention to his audience that this story from the Book of Mormon was plagiarized--from Joseph Smith's own father!</p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">Joseph Smith's mother, on whom Mormon historians rely extensively for information about the early years of Joseph Smith and the early days of the establishment of the LDS church, <a href="http://www.centerplace.org/history/misc/jsp.htm#14" target="_blank">wrote the following</a> about a dream that Joseph Smith, Sr. had in 1811--nine years before the earliest date asserted for the First Vision, sixteen years before Joseph Smith is said to have received the gold plates from an angel, and eighteen years before the Book of Mormon was published:</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><p style="font-size: 14px;">    <span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">I</span><span style="font-size: 13px;">n 1811, we moved from Royalton, Vermont, to
the town of Lebanon, New Hampshire. Soon after arriving here, my husband received another
very singular vision, which I will relate: 

</span></p></span></blockquote><blockquote>
 <p>   <span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> "I thought," said he, "I was traveling in an open, desolate field, which
 appeared to be very barren. As I was thus traveling, the thought suddenly came into my
 mind that I had better stop and reflect upon what I was doing, before I went any further.
 So I asked myself, 'What motive can I have in traveling here, and what place can this be?'
 My guide, who was by my side, as before, said, 'This is the desolate world; but travel
 on.' The road was so broad and barren that I wondered why I should travel in it; for, said
 I to myself, 'Broad is the road, and wide is the gate that leads to death, and many there
 be that walk therein; but narrow is the way, and straight is the gate that leads to
 everlasting' life, and few there be that go in thereat.' </span></p>

<p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">
     Traveling a short distance farther, I came to a narrow path. This path
 I entered, and, when I had traveled a little way in it, I beheld a beautiful stream of
 water, which ran from the east to the west. Of this stream I could see neither the source
 nor yet the termination; but as far as my eyes could extend I could see a rope running
 along the bank of it, about as high as a man could reach, and beyond me was a low, but
 very pleasant valley, in which stood a tree such as I had never seen before. It was
 exceedingly handsome, insomuch that I looked upon it with wonder and admiration. Its
 beautiful branches spread themselves somewhat like an umbrella, and it bore a kind of
 fruit, in shape much like a chestnut bur, and as white as snow, or, if possible whiter. I
 gazed upon the same with considerable interest, and as I was doing so the burs or shells
 commenced opening and shedding their particles, or the fruit which they contained, which
 was of dazzling whiteness. I drew near and began to eat of it, and I found it delicious
 beyond description. As I was eating, I said in my heart, 'I can not eat this alone, I must
 bring my wife and children, that they may partake with me.' Accordingly, I went and
 brought my family, which consisted of a wife and seven children, and we all commenced
 eating, and praising God for this blessing. We were exceedingly happy, insomuch that our
 joy could not easily be expressed. </p>

<p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">
         While thus engaged, I beheld a spacious
 building standing opposite the valley which we were in, and it appeared to reach to the
 very heavens. It was full of doors and windows, and they were filled with people, who were
 very finely dressed. When these people observed us in the low valley, under the tree, they
 pointed the finger of scorn at us, and treated us with all manner of disrespect and
 contempt. But their contumely we utterly disregarded. </p>

<p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">
         I presently turned to my guide, and inquired of
 him the meaning of the fruit that was so delicious. He told me it was the pure love of
 God, shed abroad in the hearts of all those who love him, and keep his commandments. He
 then commanded me to go and bring the rest of my children. I told him that we were all
 there. 'No,' he replied, 'look yonder, you have two more, and you must bring them also.'
 Upon raising my eyes, I saw two small children, standing some distance off. I immediately
 went to them, and brought them to the tree; upon which they commenced eating with the
 rest, and we all rejoiced together. The more we ate, the more we seemed to desire, until
 we even got down upon our knees, and scooped it up, eating it by double handfuls. </p>

<p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">
         After feasting in this manner a short time, I
 asked my guide what was the meaning of the spacious building which I saw. He replied, 'It
 is Babylon, it is Babylon, and it must fall. The people in the doors and windows are the
 inhabitants thereof, who scorn and despise the Saints of God because of their humility.' </p>

<p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">
         I soon awoke, clapping my hands together for
 joy." </p>

</blockquote>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Elder Holland then segues from the plagiarized story at the beginning of the Book of Mormon to a whitewashed account of the final days of Joseph and Hyrum Smith.  He begins the story with a lie:</span></p><blockquote><p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">May I refer to a modern “last days” testimony? When Joseph Smith and
his brother Hyrum started for Carthage <strong>to face what they knew would be
an imminent martyrdom</strong> . . . .</p>

</blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">The Smith brothers certainly knew that they faced a challenging and dangerous situation.  But did they "know" they faced "an imminent martyrdom" as Elder Holland so dramatically and emphatically declares?  The historical record is mixed, but a few facts not mentioned by Elder Holland suggest that Joseph Smith had no intention of dying a "martyr's" death at Carthage.  First among these was his securing of two pistols, which he used in the gun fight that resulted in his death.  Elder John Taylor, who became the third President of the LDS church, wrote in the official History of the Church that:</span><blockquote><p style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> Elder Cyrus H. Wheelock came in to see us, and
 when he was about leaving drew a small pistol, a six-shooter, from his pocket,
 remarking at the same time, "Would any of you like to have this?" Brother
 Joseph immediately replied, "Yes, give it to me," whereupon he took the
 pistol, and put it in his pantaloons pocket.... I was sitting at one of the
 front windows of the jail, when I saw a number of men, with painted faces,
 coming around the corner of the jail, and aiming towards the stairs....
 </p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">I shall never forget the deep feeling of sympathy
 and regard manifested in the countenance of Brother Joseph as he drew nigh to
 Hyrum, and, leaning over him, exclaimed, "Oh! my poor, dear brother Hyrum!"
 <strong>He, however, instantly arose, and with a firm, quick step, and a determined
 expression of countenance, approached the door, and pulling the six-shooter
 left by Brother Wheelock from his pocket, opened the door slightly, and
 snapped the pistol six successive times; only three of the barrels, however,
 were discharged. I afterwards understood that two or three were wounded by
 these discharges, two of whom, I am informed died."</strong> (<em>History of the
 Church</em>, Vol. 7, p. 100, 102 &amp; 103)</p>

</blockquote>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">If Joseph Smith knew he was going to be killed, why did he have a gun delivered to him? Why did he discharge his weapon?  Certainly, Elder Holland knows about this because he cites to the History of the Church elsewhere in his talk.  <br></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">But that is not all Elder Holland fails to mention.  He makes no mention of the fact that on the day Joseph and Hyrum were killed, Joseph sent for the Nauvoo Legion to come break them out of jail.  Nothing in the historical record indicates that Joseph Smith thought, on the morning of June 27, 1844 when he had a letter smuggled out of the jail to the Nauvoo Legion, that they would fail to rescue him. In fact, just the opposite: the historical record is clear that Joseph Smith thought the mob that was coming to kill him was the Nauvoo Legion coming to his rescue:</span></p><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">The morning of 27 June, Smith sent an order (in his 
 own handwriting) to Major-General Jonathan Dunham to lead 
 the Nauvoo Legion in a military attack on Carthage "immediately" 
 to free the prisoners. Dunham realized that such an assault 
 by the Nauvoo Legion would result in two blood baths - one 
 in Carthage and another when anti-Mormons (and probably 
 the Illinois militia) retaliated by laying siege to Nauvoo 
 for insurrection. To avoid civil war and the destruction 
 of Nauvoo's population, Dunham refused to obey the order 
 and did not notify Smith of his decision. One of his lieutenants, 
 a former Danite, later complained that Dunham "did not let 
 a single mortal know that he had received such orders (from 
 Smith). </span> 
 <span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: 12px;">"[Later 
 that same day] Around 5 p.m., more than 250 men approached 
 the Carthage Jail. When informed of this by the panicky 
 jailer, Joseph Smith replied:</span> "<strong>Don't trouble yourself, 
 they have come to rescue me.</strong>" (D. Michael Quinn,<em> Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power, </em>p. 141).</span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"> </span> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><br></span></p>

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<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Elder Holland then mentions that Hyrum Smith read from the Book of Mormon in an effort to comfort his brother.  To add dramatic emphasis, he makes this claim:</span></p><blockquote><p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Before closing the book, Hyrum turned down the corner of the page from
which he had read, marking it as part of the everlasting testimony for
which these two brothers were about to die. I hold in my hand that
book, <strong>the very copy from which Hyrum read</strong>, the same corner of the page
turned down, still visible.</p>

</blockquote><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">It seems Elder Holland was, at the very least, exaggerating.  He was, indeed, holding an early edition of the Book of Mormon, with a page flipped down, that may have been the one Hyrum Smith had with him at Carthage.  The problem is that the LDS church has previously identified a different book as "the very copy from which Hyrum read."  <a href="http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/50543/Fabric-of-history-Geo-A-and-Bathsheba-Smith-artifacts-donated-to-Church.html" target="_blank">See this story from the LDS Church News</a> and the discussion of the topic <a href="http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.php/discussions/viewthread/18043/" target="_blank">at the PostMormon discussion board </a>for more.  Now, this may seem a small matter, but watch the video and see how sincerely and emphatically Elder Holland attests to the fact that he is carrying the "very copy from which Hyrum read."  And then compare it to the emotional verve with which he testifies about the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.  It is the same.  If you feel all warm and fuzzy from his declaration (which was false) regarding the book he held in his hand, perhaps it should give one pause about using those warm and fuzzy feelings to determine the truth of that which he is asserting elsewhere.  If he lies so emphatically and effectively about these little things, what about the big things to which he "bears solemn witness"?</p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">Next, Elder Holland engages in hyperbole.  What he says is patently ridiculous.  Here it is:</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><p style="font-size: 14px;">For 179 years this book has been examined and attacked, denied and
deconstructed, targeted and torn apart like perhaps no other book in
modern religious history—perhaps <strong>like no other book in <em>any</em> religious history</strong>. And still it stands.</p></span></blockquote><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">He really cannot be serious.  Only in the bizarre bubble world in which this Baron of Bluster lives could someone really think that the Book of Mormon has been more assiduously criticized than the Bible or the Qu'ran.  Elder Holland has a Ph.D. from Yale University.  He knows better than this.  And what does he mean, exactly, by the phrase "And still it stands"? In the sense that there are some few souls among the population of the earth who believe in spite of all evidence to the contrary? Sure, I will give it that.  But by that criteria, he should accept the Qu'ran, which has been far more "examined and attacked" and "stands" in a far stronger position than the Book of Mormon, with over 1.5 billion believers compared to Mormonism's fewer than 10 million.  </p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">For our next lie from Elder Holland, we get this gem:</p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Witnesses, even witnesses who were for a time hostile to Joseph,
<strong>testified to their death that they had seen an angel and had handled
the plates</strong>.</span></blockquote><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">Let's examine this in a little more detail than what Elder Holland gave in his General Conference address (and in more detail than what the LDS church has ever given in any of the materials it has produced over the years discussing the testimonies of the so-called Three Witnesses.  Elder Holland certainly gives the impression that the Three Witnesses (David Whitmer, Oliver Cowdery, and Martin Harris) never wavered in their testimonies.  The historical record, though, contradicts this myth perpetuated by Elder Holland. Some facts about the Three Witnesses that Elder Holland fails to mention are found at <a href="http://www.mormonthink.com/witnessesweb.htm" target="_blank">Mormon Think</a> and this page <a href="http://www.bible.ca/mor-witness-book.htm" target="_blank">here</a>.  Elder Holland either is ignorant of these facts (and, given his educational level, the position he holds, his past correspondence with church critics, and the ease with which these facts are obtained), or he is deliberately misleading his audience.  Why does he not mention that all three witnesses left the church, that they were not simply "for a time hostile to Joseph" but that they actually left the church, condemned Joseph Smith as a fallen prophet, sustained men other than Brigham Young as the true Prophet after Joseph's death, joined other churches, qualified their testimonies by saying that they had beheld the plates and angel with their "spiritual eyes" or the "eye of faith," were literally cursed by Mormon leaders, robbed by their fellow Mormons who drove them out of town, etc.? (not all three did all of these things, but each of these things applies to at least one of the Three Witnesses).  I think Elder Holland is deliberately leaving a false impression with his audience, a false impression reinforced by all the lesson materials the LDS church produces concerning the Three Witnesses.  The numerous facts in the historical record that call into question the veracity of the Three Witnesses and the reliability of the testimony that is found in every Book of Mormon are never discussed in a church setting.  I can understand why--the real history is embarrassing and is not faith promoting.  But rather than lie about the Three Witnesses, perhaps Elder Holland would better serve the cause of truth by simply neglecting to mention them at all.</p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;">Finally, nearly fifteen minutes into the talk, we get a true statement from Elder Holland:</p><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Now, I did not sail with the brother of Jared in crossing an ocean, settling in a new world.</span></p>

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<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">No doubt.  It is interesting to me that Elder Holland mentions perhaps the most ludicrous story in the entire Book of Mormon in an address in which he is trying to persuade people of the literal authenticity of the book as an ancient history translated by the gift and power of God.  The story of the sailing of the brother of Jared (whose name Joseph Smith allegedly had miraculously revealed to him as "Mahonri Moriancumr") is analyzed in <a href="http://packham.n4m.org/ships.htm" target="_blank">this brilliant piece by Dr. Kent Ponder</a>.  No, Elder Holland did not sail with the brother of Jared.  And neither did anyone else.  And I didn't accompany Frodo up Mount Doom, either.</span></p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 18px;"><span style="font-size: 20px; text-decoration: underline;">2. Logical Fallacie</span><span style="font-size: 20px; text-decoration: underline;">s</span></span></strong></span><p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Well, I have spent enough time on the lies and misrepresentations made by Elder Holland in his talk.  Now let's look at the logic of his principal arguments in favor of the Book of Mormon's authenticity.  These are the things that many faithful Mormons described as "powerful" and "forceful" and even "irrefutable." I will quote the bulk of Elder Holland's argument and then point out what I see as the flaws in his reasoning.  From Elder Holland's talk:</span></p><blockquote><p style="font-family: Times New Roman;">As one of a thousand elements of my own testimony of the divinity of
the Book of Mormon, I submit this as<strong> yet one more evidence</strong> of its
truthfulness. In this their greatest—and last—hour of need, I ask you:
would these men blaspheme before God by continuing to fix their lives,
their honor, and their own search for eternal salvation on a book (and
by implication a church and a ministry) they had fictitiously created
out of whole cloth? Never mind that their wives are about to be widows and their children
fatherless. Never mind that their little band of followers will yet be
“houseless, friendless and homeless” and that their children will leave
footprints of blood across frozen rivers and an untamed prairie floor.<sup><a class="featureslink" href="http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-1117-28,00.html#9"></a></sup>
Never mind that legions will die and other legions live declaring in
the four quarters of this earth that they know the Book of Mormon and
the Church which espouses it to be true. Disregard all of that, and
tell me whether in this hour of death these two men would enter the
presence of their Eternal Judge quoting from and finding solace in a
book which, if <em>not</em> the very word of God, would brand them as imposters and charlatans until the end of time? <em>They</em> <em>would not do that!</em> <strong>They were willing to die rather than deny the divine origin and the eternal truthfulness of the Book of Mormon</strong>. </p>

</blockquote><p style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Curiously, when Elder Holland submits "yet one more evidence" he has not yet submitted any evidence.  This is the first thing he mentions as evidence in support of the Book of Mormon.  Oh, wait. Check that.  He did say right before this that Hyrum Smith read from the Book of Ether.  So the fact that Hyrum Smith found comfort in some of the words found in the Book of Mormon (which, incidentally, are borrowed from the New Testament, about which the Book of Ether "author" would not have known anything about, but which was familiar to the Smith brothers) is, I guess, some of the "evidence" that Elder Holland cites.  <br></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">But let's look at the second part of the above-quoted passage from Elder Holland, the part where he asks rhetorically whether Joseph and Hyrum would </span><span style="font-size: 14px;">quote from a book just before they died, knowing that they would soon face their Maker.</span> <span style="font-size: 14px;">Let's count the logical fallacies in this passage.</span> First, as noted above, it is based on the false premise that they knew they were going to die at the time they were reading from the book and testifying of it to the guards.  <br></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Second, it is based on the false premise that they had a choice to  deny the book to save their lives.  Nothing in the historical record supports Elder Holland's false premise.  The Smith brothers were not incarcerated for believing in the Book of Mormon; nor could they have secured their release from jail by admitting that the book was not of divine origin.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Third, even if they did expect to die, that fact alone would not prevent them from continuing to perpetuate a lie to their last breath.  Again, this argument is based on the false premise that a dying man's words are always truthful.  Plenty of people engaged in frauds (whether deceiving only others or deceiving both others and themselves) have gone to their deaths spouting their false beliefs.  Do the names David Koresh, Jim Jones, and Marshall Applewhite mean nothing to Elder Holland? If so, Elder Holland may I introduce you to my friend Google?  <br></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Fourth, Elder Holland finds it significant that Joseph testified of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon (according to the History of the Church, but it is interesting that Elder Holland never quotes from a sermon by Joseph Smith in which Smith taught from the Book of Mormon or quoted from it.  Indeed, I have read many talks given by Joseph Smith and cannot recall a single instance where he quoted from the Book of Mormon) and that Hyrum Smith read from it.  But these facts are entirely irrelevant to the question of whether the Book of Mormon's origins are divine and whether the Book of Mormon contains actual ancient history.  I know some liberal Mormons who read the Book of Mormon and gain inspiration and comfort from its pages but who nevertheless do not believe it came from an angel or contains real history.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">More from Elder Holland speaking of the Book of Mormon:</span></p><blockquote><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Failed theories about its origins have been born and parroted and have
died—from Ethan Smith to Solomon Spaulding to deranged paranoid to
cunning genius. None of these frankly pathetic answers for this book
has ever withstood examination because <em>there is no other answer</em>
than the one Joseph gave as its young unlearned translator. In this I
stand with my own great-grandfather, who said simply enough, “No wicked
man could write such a book as this; and no good man would write it,
unless it were true and he were commanded of God to do so.</span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">  </span></span></blockquote>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">By invoking his grandfather's testimony, Elder Holland commits the fallacy of an appeal to antiquity.  Just because his grandfather believed it to be so does not make it so.  This is not evidence for anything.  Anyone can regurgitate the religious opinions of their forebears.  I am sure most of the 1.5 billion Muslims in the world could cite their grandparents' testimonies about the Prophet Muhammad.  Is Elder Holland going to accept them as true?</span></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Elder Holland then gives his own testimony on his own "oath and office."  This, too fails as evidence of anything.  He commits the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority--that because he says it is so, it must be so.  After all, an apostle wouldn't lie, right?  </span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Elder Holland also (and this may be the most unfortunate part of the whole talk) commits the logical fallacy of ad hominem attacks.  He labels those who do not accept as true the story Joseph Smith told about the coming forth of the Book of Mormon (an angel gave him gold plates on which were engraved books written by multiple ancient prophets in a language never before or since found, and he translated the record by putting a seerstone in a hat, on which the words in English would appear as he dictated them to his scribes, and when he was finished the angel took the plates back) as "foolish," "deceived," and "misled," and labels any ideas about the possible origins of the Book of Mormon that differ from Smith's miraculous tale as "frankly pathetic." </span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">In the same passage, Elder Holland engages in some sleight of hand, wherein he talks about "failed theories about [the Book of Mormon's] origins, and then names just two theories (of many) that have been advanced.  It is sleight of hand because there are really two issues regarding the Book of Mormon's "divine origins."  One question is whether the book contains an actual history of real people who lived anciently.  A second question concerns how the book that Joseph Smith had printed and distributed, and which the LDS church continues to print and distribute to the world, was produced.  The second question is really not nearly as relevant and important as the first.  Here is why: either the Book of Mormon peoples and civilizations actually existed or they did not.  Either the book is an actual history or it is fiction.  If the answer to the first question is that the Book of Mormon is not real history, then it follows that we know at least part of the answer to the second question.  If the Book of Mormon is not an actual history, then it follows that it was not produced in the manner that Joseph Smith claims (i.e., there was no angel with gold plates and there was no miraculous translation with a seerstone in a hat, etc.).  We still do not know the full answer to the second question, but at that point it is more a matter of academic interest.  <br></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">If, however, the Book of Mormon can be shown to be an actual history, then, and only then, does Joseph Smith's story about how the book was produced become plausible and worthy.</span><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">Elder Holland focuses on the second question only because he knows there is no "proof" right now of how the Book of Mormon was produced (i.e., whether Joseph acted alone or had accomplices, and if he had accomplices, the extent of the conspiracy).  Elder Holland focuses on this question, rather than the first question concerning the evidence for the Book of Mormon as an actual history because he knows that there is a mountain of evidence against the Book of Mormon and that almost any unbiased inquirer who examines the evidence against the Book of Mormon will be persuaded by the evidence that the Book of Mormon is a nineteenth-century fabrication and not a document of ancient origin.  All Elder Holland can point to is some vague "literary and Semitic complexity," which he never defines.  Nor does he provide any examples, or explain how having "literary and Semitic complexity" would prove the Book of Mormon is true. <br></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;">For anyone sincerely wanting to look at the evidence on the Book of Mormon, I refer you to the web sites included in my sidebar under the Book of Mormon heading (which includes church sites with articles from LDS leaders. <br></span></p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">And this brings me to my final point.  If Elder Holland is so sure that the Book of Mormon can withstand "examination and attack," if he is so sure that the evidence against the book and the arguments of its critics are "pathetic" and "silly," why does he not encourage his audience to research those arguments and look at the evidence and decide for themselves?  Why all the yelling and arm-waving and empty rhetoric and angry testifying?  Why the fear-mongering (warning of "destruction" and "dangers" and "deception" of the "elect" and "travail of the latter days" and such)?</span><span style="font-size: 14px;">  </span><span style="font-size: 14px;">Why resort to the tactic of portraying those who have left the church as "crawling over or under or around the Book of Mormon to make that exit," conjuring the mental image of cockroaches scurrying over and around a book lying on the floor.  Why the insults? Where is the "Love. Healing. Help. Hope." he talked about in the beginning of the talk? The whole talk smacks of desperation and insecurity.  The truth of proposition is not determined by how vociferously it is stated.</span></p><span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Times New Roman;"></span><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;"></p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;"></p><p style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14px;"></p><blockquote>
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<li>A Day in the Life</li>
<li><span>Hey Jude</span> </li>
<li><span>The Long and Winding Road</span> </li>
<li><span>Penny Lane</span> </li>
<li><span>Here Comes the Sun</span> </li>
<li><span>Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band</span> </li>
<li><span>While My Guitar Gently Weeps</span> </li>
<li><span>Eleanor Rigby</span> </li>
<li><span>Norwegian Wood</span> </li>
<li><span>Yesterday</span> </li>
<li><span>Let it Be</span> </li>
<li><span>Something</span> </li>
<li><span>A Hard Day's Night</span> </li>
<li><span>Blackbird</span> </li>
<li><span>Across the Universe</span> </li>
<li><span>Help</span> </li>
<li><span>I Wanna Hold Your Hand</span> </li>
<li><span>From Me to You</span> </li>
<li><span>When I'm Sixty-Four</span> </li>
<li><span>Revolution</span> </li>
<li><span>Strawberry Fields Forever</span> </li>
<li><span>I Am the Walrus</span> </li>
<li><span>You've Got to Hide Your Love Away</span> </li>
<li><span>Can't Buy Me Love</span> </li>
<li><span>Day Tripper</span> </li>
<li>Ticket to Ride </li>
<li><span>Eight Days a Week</span> </li>
<li><span>Paperback Writer</span> </li>
<li>Getting Better</li>
<li><span>Good Day Sunshine</span> </li>
<li><span>I Feel Fine</span> </li>
<li><span>I Saw Her Standing There</span> </li>
<li><span>I'm Down</span> </li>
<li><span>Lady Madonna</span> </li>
<li><span>Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds</span> </li>
<li><span>Magical Mystery Tour</span> </li>
<li><span>Ballad of John and Yoko</span> </li>
<li><span>Back in the U.S.S.R.</span> </li>
<li><span>Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da</span> </li>
<li><span>We Can Work it Out</span> </li>
<li><span>Michelle</span> </li>
<li>All My Loving </li>
<li><span>Please Please Me</span> </li>
<li><span>Love Me Do</span> </li>
<li><span>Nowhere Man</span> </li>
<li><span>Got to Get You into My Life</span> </li>
<li><span>Yellow Submarine</span> </li>
<li><span>Golden Slumbers</span> </li>
<li><span>Carry that Weight</span> </li>
<li><span>The End</span> </li>
</ol>
<span>I actually think the last three songs should be ranked higher, but when I play this mix in iTunes, I like to end with that phenomenal medley from Abbey Road.  So, take that, EW!  Readers may notice that my list is top-heavy with later Beatles tunes, and that I am partial to McCartney's songs.  It is also a testament, though, the George Harrison's often underrated impact on the band that I've got three of his songs in the Top 12, and he didn't get writing credit for very many Beatles songs.  </span> <br></div></div>]]></content:encoded><description>I received in the mail today my Entertainment Weekly featuring my all-time favorite band The Beatles on the cover. This is in honor of the Rock Band Beatles edition set to hit stores next week (can't wait!). As part of...</description></item><item><title>Pat Condell's Latest: Apologists for Evil</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2009/07/pat-condells-latest-apologists-for-evil.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:14:22 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c688053ef0115722a53e7970b</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">In browsing YouTube, I came across this short video by a man who left the religion he had been diligently devoted to for many years.&nbsp; I relate to his story, though the religion he left was not Mormonism, but Islam.&nbsp; In it, he expresses views that I share.&nbsp; He says that once one has lost belief in a religion, continuing to practice it is an act of deception, and if there is a God, He would not want someone to pretend to believe that which he does not really believe.&nbsp; I couldn't agree more.<br><br><br>
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I relate to his story, though the religion he left was not Mormonism, but Islam....</itunes:summary></item><item><title>BYU May Lift Ban on YouTube Access</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2009/06/byu-may-lift-ban-on-youtube-access.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:20:01 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-67648731</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago, when the YouTube phenomenon first hit, the geriatric leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who manage the church-owned Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, decided that the adult members of the LDS church who comprise more than 95% of the student body population, should not have access to YouTube on campus. Now, at the same time that it has been widely reported that China had disabled Twitter and other Internet communications in an effort to stifle any potential dissent on the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square demonstrations, BYU has announced that the Brethren are considering lifting the campus ban on YouTube.  The announcement also comes on the heels of the LDS church's launch of its own YouTube channel.  </p><p>So, being the "polite apostate" as one LDS friend of mine recently dubbed me, I take this opportunity to offer BYU students who may be accessing YouTube for the first time some channels you may want to subscribe to in order to expand your understanding and knowledge of your religion.  After all, the glory of God is intelligence, or in other words, light and truth.  YouTube has immense potential to spread light and truth to the world.  Certainly, that must be the motivating factor behind the decision to lift the ban on YouTube at BYU, should the Brethren so decide.  Enjoy!</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ExmormonFoundation#all" target="_blank">Stories and Info on Mormonism</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/slu2com">Utah History and Culture</a> </p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/NonStampCollector" title="Cartoon fun for the whole family!">Non-Stamp Collector</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/EdwardCurrent">Edward Current</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/misterdeity">Mr. Deity</a></p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/MrsBettyBowers" title="Mrs. Betty Bowers">America's Best Christian</a> </span></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/patricianatheist">Patrician Atheist</a></p> ]]></content:encoded><description>A few years ago, when the YouTube phenomenon first hit, the geriatric leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who manage the church-owned Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, decided that the adult members of the LDS...</description></item><item><title>Mormons and Ex-Mormons Work Together on Eagle Project</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2009/05/mormons-and-exmormons-work-together-on-eagle-project.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 14:22:21 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-67461271</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p>Last week, my nearly 17-year-old son directed and oversaw a community project as part of the requirements he must meet to earn his Eagle Scout award.  In doing so, he employed the volunteer services of members of the Plano Fifth Ward of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as a few helpers from the Ex-Mormon community (namely, me, my fiancee, and a few of my friends).  We were all able to work together for a common good--we built planters, planted wisteria vines, and dug out and shored up a pond that will be used by the students at Julius Dorsey Elementary school.  Julius Dorsey is located in an economically disadvantaged area in South Dallas.  Here are some pictures from the event.  I express my thanks to the members of the LDS church and to my ex-Mormon friends who worked side-by-side contributing their time and labor on a Saturday morning to perform an act of service for the community and to help my son in his efforts to earn his Eagle Scout award.  Here are some pics from the event:</p><br><div><a href="http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c688053ef01156fbd2130970c-pi" style="display: inline;"><img alt="IMG_1053" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c688053ef01156fbd2130970c image-full " src="http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c688053ef01156fbd2130970c-800wi" title="IMG_1053"></img></a> <br></div><br><div><a href="http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c688053ef011570b267cf970b-pi" style="display: inline;"><img 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In doing so, he employed the volunteer services of members of the Plano Fifth...</description></item><item><title>LDS Church Apologizes for Past Missteps</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2009/04/lds-church-apologizes-for-past-missteps.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:20:11 PDT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-64943303</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span>From the <em>Deseret News</em>:</p><div style="margin-left: 40px;">In a surprising move, the head of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints today has publically apologized for some of the Utah
based church's past missteps. <br><br>
In a written statement, President Thomas S. Monson, the head of the LDS church
mentioned a deep regret for Brigham Young and other leaders'
pronouncements about blacks and those with African ancestry. In his
words, "These statements are offensive and cannot be taken in any other
manner. We renounce what was said as not doctrinal and apologize for
any confusion or offense the racist statements or policies may have
caused."
<br><br>The press release also announces a transition so adult women may
now be granted the priesthood; the possibility for leadership within
the LDS organization. Women and church members have long requested this
access, but were rebuffed by traditional and chauvinist policies.
<br><br>The guidelines given to the lay clergy, the bishops and stake
presidents (known as the church handbook of instructions) will be
published on the lds.org website. All LDS members will now have access
to these guidelines and become aware of previously secret guidelines
and policies. LDS weddings will still be held in temples, but anyone
who wants to attend those ceremonies will be allowed, without a special
recommend.
<br><br>President Monson references a forthcoming document that will detail
the expenses and earnings of the LDS church throughout the world. This
document will be made public, so each ward congregation will see where
their tithing funds are being spent. Prior to today, this information
was not public and even individual members had not been aware of how
their donations were being used. President Monson also announces his
own retirement, and the recommended retirement of any LDS leader over
the age of 65. "For too long, we have allowed people to stay in the
leadership when a younger, more diverse population would help the LDS
church move into the twenty first century". <br><br>
The statement reverses the official LDS position opposing same-sex
marriage. "We regret our participation in this battle for human rights.
As of today, we agree to cease any official sponsorship of anti-gay
causes and encourage our members to prayerfully ponder their own
participation in such causes." <br><br>
It appears that as of today, April first, the church will be reviewing
its policies towards women and gays, modifying existing teaching
materials and pamphlets to vigilantly oppose discrimination based on
race, gender, creed or sexual orientation.
<br><br>The press release mentions that the Book of Mormon will become a
spiritual guide instead of historically documented fact. It reads: "We
acknowledge that the Book of Mormon was inspired by God, but no
evidence has been found that the peoples described in the book were
real or in fact ancestors of native americans". <br><br>
Finally, the statement expresses regret that any historians or members
of the LDS church were excommunicated over some of these issues. "These
members will be welcomed back into the fold if they so choose. All
members should feel free to research and study any all issues and come
to their own conclusions without fear of familial, social or spiritual
reprocussions". <br><br>
In a related note, the Utah LDS church has agreed to allow reporters,
historians and scholars unrestricted access to all the church archives
and documents.<br><br></div><p>Happy April Fools Day!</p><p>Text written by aerin of <a href="http://acranberryblog.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://acranberryblog.blogspot.com/</a></p></div>]]></content:encoded><description>From the Deseret News: In a surprising move, the head of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints today has publically apologized for some of the Utah based church's past missteps. In a written statement, President Thomas S. Monson,...</description></item><item><title>Judging by Fruits</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2009/01/judging-by-fruits.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:09:02 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-62047884</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>One of the principles from the Bible I agree with is that religions and religious leaders ought to be judged by the fruits they produce.  When judging a religion, I think it a useful exercise to ask the question: "What would life be like if this religion had control of society, if it could institute laws in accordance with its teachings?"  Asking this question while I was at BYU law school was perhaps the beginning of my journey out of Mormonism.  BYU is not governed according to the secular principles enshrined in the U.S. Constitution.  Rather, it is governed by ecclesiastical leaders in accordance with the principles of the religion as they interpret them.  Life under the BYU "honor code" provides a glimpse into what life would be like if the LDS church ever became powerful enough to shape the laws of the land.  To me, it's a frightful thought.  The way the LDS church behaves when in total control, unencumbered by secular or ecumenical influences, is truly Orwellian.</p><div><br><div>Similarly, if we want to know the true fruits of Islam, it is instructive to look at places in the world where Islamic law governs, unfettered by the influence of non-Muslim viewpoints.  Islam may appear harmless when Muslims live as religious minorities in a place like the United States, where religious pluralism is woven into the cultural and historical fabric of the nation and also expressly protected by the Constitution. But what about when Islam is subject to no social constraints, where the Qur'an and the Hadith are the basis of not jut religious but civil law? What fruits are produced when the religion governs all aspects of life?  For a glimpse of what life is like under such circumstances, watch this video:</div><br>

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speedily repented, have sooner or later <strong>fallen into the snares of the
wicked one</strong>, and have been left destitute of the Spirit of God, to
<strong>manifest their wickednes</strong>s in the eyes of multitudes. From apostates the
faithful have received the severest persecutions. Judas was rebuked and
immediately betrayed his Lord into the hands of His enemies, because
Satan entered into him. 
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<p style="margin-left: 40px;">There is a superior intelligence bestowed upon such as obey the
Gospel with full purpose of heart, which, if sinned against, <strong>the
apostate is left naked and destitute of the Spirit of God, and he is,
in truth, nigh unto cursing, and his end is to be burned.</strong> When once
that light which was in them is taken from them <strong>they become as much
darkened as they were previously enlightened</strong>, and then, no marvel, if
all their power should be enlisted against the truth, and they,
Judas-like, seek the destruction of those who were their greatest
benefactors. . . .</p><p style="margin-left: 40px;">. . .</p><p style="margin-left: 40px;">When you joined this Church you enlisted to serve God. When you did
that you left the neutral ground, and you never can get back on to it.
<strong>Should you forsake the Master you enlisted to serve, it will be by the
instigation of the evil one, and you will follow his dictation and be
his servant</strong>.</p><p>I believe that one reason why active Mormons often choose not to associate at all with former members of the church is that they actually believe that former members are possessed by Satan, as the above quote from Joseph Smith unequivocally states. <br>
</p>
<p> Given that they are taught this by their church leaders, whom they
revere as prophets, seers, and revelators, it is perhaps not
surprising.  A second reason active member of the LDS church avoid
contact with former members is that associating with folks like me
would put the lie to the doctrine.  For I am demonstrably not
"darkened" or manifesting "wickedness" or experiencing misery and
anguish.  To the contrary, I have never been happier, never felt more
peace, never been more free, never felt more alive.  And I know many
ex-Mormons who feel similarly.  The world didn't end for us when we left the church; we didn't turn into hobos and vagrants and vagabonds.  The grim picture painted by church leaders of the woeful apostate is as distorted as the rosy picture the church paints of the idealized Joseph Smith.  If members of the church associate too much with former members, they will begin to see that their church leaders are, for lack of a more accurate word, lying to them about the "danger" of disagreeing with church leaders about anything and everything.  And if their leaders are not truthful about that, members may begin to question some of the other things their leaders have told them to "take on faith" because once the prophet has spoken, the "thinking has been done." </p><p>I consider myself Exhibit A in the case against the LDS church's doctrine that apostates are bitter, miserable, unhappy creatures destined to "burn their fingers and go to hell."  Here is my personal testament, nearly one year after resigning my church membership, to how apostasy has been "<a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Chico_Escuela" target="_blank">berra berra good to me</a>."</p><p>

</p><p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">One of the best things to come out of my leaving Mormonism
was the profound relief that I was finally free to be me, to embrace what I
truly value and who I really am.<span>  </span>I
recaptured my identity as I broke free from the shackles the religion had
fastened so tightly to my soul.<span>  </span>Changing
my world-view was at times disorienting, and I felt some sense of loss and even
sadness upon recognizing that the church and god to which I had given my heart
and mind for nearly twenty years was not what it claimed to be nor what I
thought it was.<span>  </span>But at the same time, I
was liberated from church-imposed self-doubt, guilt, fear, and shame—freed from
the cognitive dissonance that was my constant companion as I became
increasingly frustrated trying to reconcile my knowledge about the way the
world really is with church dogma.<span>  </span></p>

<p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">Coming to grips with the realization that the Mormon
church was not, in fact, the “only true and living church on the face of the
whole earth,” as it claims, and that it was not, in fact, led by a true prophet
who receives wisdom and guidance and instruction directly from a resurrected
Jesus Christ, was a difficult process.<span> 
</span>It was emotionally, mentally, and even physically draining.<span>  </span>And for whatever reason, my spouse was unable
to help me through that time.<span>  </span>Initially,
she added to my pain and confusion, reacting angrily when I tried to tell her
about my doubts about the church, accusing me of destroying our family.<span>  </span>She made it clear that there were limits to
what she was willing to hear from me on religion.<span>  </span>After that initial negative reaction, I felt
like she had closed the avenues of communication on the subject.<span>  </span>She eventually softened, to a degree, but I
never felt safe confiding in her my deepest thoughts, concerns, questions,
feelings.<span>  </span>We continued on in our
relationship: cordial, amicable, but never again truly intimate emotionally.<span>  </span>We got along fairly well, I suppose, but on
the surface only.</p>

<p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">I needed support, and I found it, through the development
of deep friendships with fellow travelers on a spiritual journey out of Mormonism.<span>  </span>I found online a community of caring,
thoughtful men and women with shared experiences who could relate to me without
judgment or condemnation or disappointment.<span> 
</span>They provided intellectually stimulating conversation on topics of great
interest and importance to me.<span>  </span>And they
provided emotional support, without which my leaving the church would have been
a painful, lonesome experience.<span>  </span>Instead,
I can say “apostasy been berra berra good to me” because of the rich, abiding
friendships I have gained.<span>  </span>Through
almost two decades of active involvement in the LDS church, I can count on the
fingers of one hand the number of lasting friendships I enjoy with
true-believing Latter-day Saints.<span> 
</span>Mormons often are friendly on the outside but can be, with some notable
exceptions, iron-hearted within.<span>  </span>Exmormons,
I have found, are the opposite: at first blush, they can appear hostile, but
inside can have hearts of gold.</p>

<p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">While I was forging friendships and re-discovering my core
identity, I was also working a lot.<span>  </span>And
so was my wife.<span>  </span>She and I only rarely
talked about my disaffection from the church, and even then only in a
superficial way.<span>  </span>To avoid contention, we
simply took the topic off the table.<span>  </span>Mostly
we talked about the kids and our schedules and the mundane things of life.<span>  </span>I tried to get her to read my blog or join me
in meeting my online friends on those occasions when we would get together “in
real life.”<span>  </span>She wouldn’t (or if she did
read my blog, she would not discuss it with me). <span> </span>While I was getting support from others in my
journey away from the church, she was alone.<span> 
</span>She stopped going to church—she felt understandably uncomfortable as the
woman with an apostate husband.<span>  </span>Many of
her so-called friends shunned her; only a few made more than a token attempt to
maintain contact and friendship once she stopped going to church.<span>  </span></p>

<p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">But though on the outside we now appeared to be united in
our disaffection from Mormonism, underneath she was resenting me for leaving
the church myself and making it too uncomfortable for her to continue activity
in the church.<span>  </span>She felt stuck between
two worlds, not at home being without an organized religion but unwilling to
subject herself to the pain of continuing involvement in the LDS church.<span>  </span>But we didn’t address it, and her resentment
and anger toward me festered.<span>  </span>Our
interests diverged—I had my work and my online friends; she started working out
and became friends with her personal trainer, a young Muslim man.<span>  </span>The number of hours we spent together
dwindled, and when we were together, we either fought over substantive issues
or ignored them, focusing instead on laundry, shopping lists, and coordinating
the kids’ extracurricular activities.<span> 
</span>She secretly became very interested in Islam; I secretly became very
interested in one of my online friends (who has a blog called <a href="http://sistermarylisa.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Thoughts by
Sister Mary Lisa</a>) in another state.</p>

<p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">Lisa and I had become fast friends when she first entered
the DAMU (Disaffected Mormon Underground, the loose confederation of blogs,
discussion boards, and web sites populated by Mormon doubters, heretics, and
apostates) sometime in 2006.<span>  </span>I had
started this blog that year and was on a quest to find as many
disaffected/exmormon blogs as I could to add to my blogroll.<span>  </span>I wanted people to be able to come to
Equality Time and link to every good non-evangelical web site or blog critical
of Mormonism.<span>  </span>In gathering this list, I
stumbled on her blog, and was impressed by both its content and her writing
style.<span>  </span>I left comments telling her
so.<span>  </span>And she would visit my blog and do
the same.<span>  </span>We seemed to have a similar
take on a lot of things.<span>  </span>She began
posting at <a href="http://www.thefoyer.org/" target="_blank">FLAK (Further Light and Knowledge)</a>, the discussion board where I’d
hang out with so many of my fellow disaffected Mormon friends.<span>  </span>Sometimes she and I would email each
other.<span>  </span>I admired her intellect, her
humor, and her compassion.<span>  </span>And, I would
find out later, she admired me as well.<span>  </span>For
many months, we were “just friends” with no thoughts of being anything
more.<span>  </span>She was going through a divorce; I
was beginning to question the long-term viability of my own marriage.<span>  </span>She left her husband in early 2008; I found
my own place to live in August.<span>  </span>My wife
had converted to Islam, and I had been away for six weeks working on a big civil
trial.<span>  </span>When I came home in mid-June, we
decided to go our separate ways, believing we each would be happier living
apart than together, and that our children would fare better with two happy
parents living singly than two miserable parents living together.<span>  </span></p>

<p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">After Lisa moved out and filed for divorce, we began
communicating more often.<span>  </span>Over the
course of 2008, I fell head over heels in love with her, and she with me.<span>  </span>I discovered in her someone who loves me
fully, without reservation or hesitation.<span> 
</span>And I feel the same for her.<span>  </span>I
discovered someone in whom I could confide my deepest thoughts and
feelings.<span>  </span>With her, nothing is off limits,
no subject verboten.<span>  </span>I feel totally comfortable
with her in a way I have never experienced before.<span>  </span>And she feels the same with me.<span>  </span>I feel no need to “put on airs,” to pretend
to be something I am not.<span>  </span>I feel no need
to hide my true self. <span> </span>I can be me and
she loves me, the real me, as I am right now; I don’t need to pretend to be
“righteous” or self-censor my thoughts and feelings out of fear of her
disapproval.<span>  </span>And she knows that I love
her for her, the real her, as she is right now.<span> 
</span>She doesn’t need to pretend to be anything she’s not or self-censor her
thoughts and feelings.<span>  </span>We are able to
talk about anything and everything.<span>  </span>The
power of the love we feel for each other is stronger than anything either of us
has experienced before; the intimacy deeper; the connection tighter.<span>  </span>This is beyond infatuation, beyond a mere
crush.<span>  </span>We feel that magical connection
given expression by poets and artists throughout time—sappy or corny as it
sounds we feel true love.</p>

<p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">Lisa and I are now engaged to be married.<span>  </span>Our relationship has its complications.<span>  </span>She lives four states away.<span>  </span>We both have children from our previous marriages.<span>  </span>We are not unmindful of the challenges we
face.<span>  </span>But we are very happy and look
forward to facing whatever life throws our way together.<span>  </span>If I had never left Mormonism, I never would
have found myself.<span>  </span>I never would have
found so many good, genuine friends.<span>  </span>And
I never would have met my true love.<span> 
</span>I’ve never been happier than since falling hopelessly in love with
her.<span>  </span>I’ve never felt more comfortable
with who I am and what I am doing.<span>  </span>I’ve
never felt more loved.<span>  </span>I’ve never felt
better about my self or about the world around me.<span>  </span>I don’t second-guess my decision,
thoughtfully and carefully and deliberately made, to leave the Mormon
church.<span>  </span>I have no regrets; indeed, it is
among the best decisions I’ve ever made.<span> 
</span>I’ve never been more at peace. <span> </span>And
I’ve never felt more alive than I do right now.</p></div>]]></content:encoded><description>The LDS church teaches that people like me, i.e., former members of the church, are destined to be miserable, and that we are in the clutches of Satan. We are as Judas--traitors who would kill Christ if we could. This...</description></item><item><title>50 Reasons People Give for Believing in God</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2009/01/50-reasons-people-give-for-believing-in-god.html</link><category>Atheism</category><category>Religion</category><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:19:38 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-61368832</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Guy Harrison has authored a book called  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Reasons-People-Give-Believing-God/dp/1591025672/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1229995544&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">50 Reasons People Give for Believing in God</a>.  In it, Harrison lists the things that people typically say to support their belief in deity and then asks provocative questions about the reasons given, and discusses the answers rationally.  I haven't read the book, but thought it would be fun to provide my own one-line commentary on each of the 50 reasons given.  So here goes:</p><p><span class="postbody">1. My god is obvious. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Not to me.</span> 
<br><br>
2. Almost everybody on Earth is religious. <span style="font-weight: bold;">So? At times in world history, almost everyone believed the earth to be flat. </span>
<br><br>
3. Faith is a good thing. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Faith is neutral. It is good or bad depending on the object on which it rests.</span>
<br><br>
4. Archaeological discoveries prove that my god exists. <span style="font-weight: bold;">I call BS. Show me one.</span>
<br><br>
5. Only my god can make me feel significant. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Says a lot about you, not so much about god.</span>
<br><br>
6. Atheism is just another religion. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Only if you define religion so broadly as to have it lose all meaning.</span>
<br><br>
7. Evolution is bad. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Non sequitur.</span>
<br><br>
8. Our world is too beautiful to be an accident. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Seen any pictures out of Sudan lately?</span>
<br><br>
9. My god created the universe. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Well, if you say so...</span>
<br><br>
10. Believing in my god makes me happy. <span style="font-weight: bold;">That's nice.</span>
<br><br>
11. Better safe than sorry. <span style="font-weight: bold;"> How safe is it, really? Are you sure you picked the right one out of the millions of gods out there to choose from?</span>
<br><br>
12. A sacred book proves my god is real. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Which book? Which god? Apply this to others who claim the same.</span> 
<br><br>
13. Divine justice proves my god is real. <span style="font-weight: bold;">The lack of any evidence for such justice in the world tends toward the opposite conclusion. </span>
<br><br>
14. My god answers prayers. <span style="font-weight: bold;">All of them? If not, why not?</span>
<br><br>
15. I would rather worship my god than the devil. <span style="font-weight: bold;">False dichotomy.</span>
<br><br>
16. My god heals sick people. <span style="font-weight: bold;">But only some of them, right? So the suffering in the world is evidence that your god is a sadist, no?</span> <strong>Why doesn't your god heal amputees?</strong><br><br>
17. Anything is better than being an atheist. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Are you sure? Try it, you might like it.</span>
<br><br>
18. My god made the human body. <span style="font-weight: bold;">So you worship the Earth?</span>
<br><br>
19. My god sacrificed his only son for me. <span style="font-weight: bold;"> Sounds like your god is a sick sonofabitch. If I killed my son and said I did it for you, what would you think of me? </span>
<br><br>
20. Atheists are jerks who think they know everything. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Some of them. But what do you call someone who overgeneralizes about a whole class of people?</span>
<br><br>
21. I don't lose anything by believing in my god. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Just your freedom.</span>
<br><br>
22. I didn't come from a monkey. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Who said you did, you moron?</span>
<br><br>
23. I don't want to go to hell. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Don't worry, you won't.</span>
<br><br>
24. I feel my god when I pray. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Quit putting your hand down your pants when you kneel. </span>
<br><br>
25. I need my god to protect me. <span style="font-weight: bold;">From your fellow believers, no doubt.</span>
<br><br>
26. I want eternal life. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Be careful what you wish for. See, e.g., the <span style="font-style: italic;">Highlander</span> series.</span>
<br><br>
27. Without my god we would have no sense of right and wrong. <span style="font-weight: bold;">You need a book and preacher to tell you that murder is wrong? Really? </span>
<br><br>
28. My god makes me feel like I am part of something bigger than myself. <span style="font-weight: bold;">So does rooting for your favorite college football team.</span>
<br><br>
29. My religion makes more sense than all the others. <span style="font-weight: bold;">With all due respect, that's not a very high hurdle.</span>
<br><br>
30. My god changes lives. <span style="font-weight: bold;">For better or worse?</span>
<br><br>
31. Intelligent design proves my god is real. <span style="font-weight: bold;">I agree--your god is about as authentic as the science behind intelligent design.</span>
<br><br>
32. Millions of people can't be wrong about my religion. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Whatever your religion, millions more don't believe it than do.</span>
<br><br>
33. Miracles prove my god is real. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Is David Blaine god?</span> <strong>Criss Angel?</strong><br><br>
34. Religion is beautiful. <span style="font-weight: bold;">If
you think Afghani schoolgirls with disfigured faces from having acid
thrown at them because they were getting an education is beautiful,
then sure, it's gorgeous.</span>
<br><br>
35. Some very smart people believe in my god. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Some very smart people drank the Kool-Aid in Jonestown</span>.<br><br>
36. Ancient prophecies prove my god exists. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Name one</span>.<br><br>
37. No one has ever disproved the existence of my god. <span style="font-weight: bold;">No one has ever disproved the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, either. </span>
<br><br>
38. People have gone to heaven and returned. <span style="font-weight: bold;">People claim to have been <a href="http://www.abduct.com/" target="_blank">abducted by aliens</a>? Do you believe them?</span>
<br><br>
39. Religion brings people together. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Yes, it's working out so well for India and Pakistan. Or the Palestinians and Israel.</span>
<br><br>
40. My god inspires people. <span style="font-weight: bold;">To do what? Strap bombs to their chests?</span>
<br><br>
41. Science can't explain everything. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Give it time.</span>
<br><br>
42. Society would fall apart without religion. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Because it's doing so well <span style="text-decoration: underline;">with</span> religion, right?</span>
<br><br>
43. My religion is so old, it must be true. <span style="font-weight: bold;">So what was the basis for believing it when it was new and competing with older religions?</span>
<br><br>
44. Someone I trust told me that my god is real. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Someone I trust once told me to buy Enron stock.</span>
<br><br>
45. Atheism is a negative and empty philosophy. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Why so negative? Don't you have anything positive to offer?</span>
<br><br>
46. Believing in a god doesn't hurt anyone. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Ever heard of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Banner_of_Heaven" target="_blank">Brenda and Erica Lafferty</a>?</span>
<br><br>
47. The earth is perfectly tuned to support life. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Duh. If it weren't, we wouldn't be here.<br></span> <br>
48. Believing is natural so my god must be real. <span style="font-weight: bold;">If I believe in unicorns, are they real?</span>
<br><br>
49. The end is near. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Only if religious people get their way.</span>
<br><br>
50. I am afraid of not believing. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Finally, the real root of religious belief--fear</span></span>.</p></div>]]></content:encoded><description>Guy Harrison has authored a book called 50 Reasons People Give for Believing in God. In it, Harrison lists the things that people typically say to support their belief in deity and then asks provocative questions about the reasons given,...</description></item><item><title>Song of the Week: You're My Home</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2008/12/song-of-the-week-youre-my-home.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:54:32 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-60623706</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<p>This week's song is called You're My Home by Billy Joel.  It's one of his better, though not so well known songs.  I dedicate it to the love of my life.  Lisa, this is for you:</p><br><div><span style="line-height: normal; font-size: 13px; font-family: Georgia; ">When you look into my eyes<br>And you see the crazy gypsy in my soul<br>It always comes as a surprise<br>When I feel my withered roots begin to grow<br>Well I never had a place that I could call my very own<br>That's all right, my love, 'cause you're my home<br><br>When you touch my weary head<br>And you tell me everything will be all right<br>You say, "Use my body for your bed<br>And my love will keep you warm throughout the night"<br>Well I'll never be a stranger and I'll never be alone<br>Whenever we're together, that's my home<br><br>Home can be the Pennsylvania Turnpike<br>Indiana's early morning dew<br>High up in the hills of California<br>Home is just another word for you<br><br>Well I never had a place that I could call my very own<br>That's all right, my love, 'cause you're my home<br><br>If I travel all my life<br>And I never get to stop and settle down<br>Long as I have you by my side<br>There's a roof above and good walls all around<br>You're my castle, you're my cabin and my instant pleasure dome<br>I need you in my house 'cause you're my home.<br>You're my home.<br><br>You're my home</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Georgia; "><br></span><div><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Georgia; "><br></span></div><br></div>]]></content:encoded><description>This week's song is called You're My Home by Billy Joel. It's one of his better, though not so well known songs. I dedicate it to the love of my life. Lisa, this is for you: When you look into...</description></item><item><title>Three Cheers for Bill Marriott</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2008/11/three-cheers-for-bill-marriott.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:16:43 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-58406832</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Famous Mormon Bill Marriott, Chairman and CEO of the Marriott International hotel company, defied LDS church leaders by refusing to donate money to the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign against gay marriage in California.  He has now <a href="http://www.blogs.marriott.com/default.asp?item=2284808">posted a statement</a> on the Marriott web site, in which he touts the company's long-standing diversity policy, which includes domestic partner benefits, and in which he speaks with pride about the many LGBT events that have been hosted at Marriott hotels over the years.  While it does not take as much courage for a man of Marriott's stature to oppose church leaders on a political issue (certainly, he won't be threatened with church discipline the way Andrew Callahan, rank-and-file church member from Nebraska was), it nevertheless shows that there are some Mormons who are willing to "do what is right and let the consequence follow" as they act in accordance with what their conscience tells them instead of yielding to the pressure to sacrifice their will on the altar of absolute obedience to the prophet.</p><p>Marriott's complete statement after the jump:</p>
<p>From Bill Marriott:</p><div style="margin-left: 40px;">As many of you may know I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints. Some might conclude given my family's membership in
the Mormon Church that our company supported the recent ballot
initiative to ban same sex marriage in California. This is simply
untrue. Marriott International is a public company headquartered in
Bethesda, Maryland, and is not controlled by any one individual or
family. Neither I, nor the company, contributed to the campaign to pass
Proposition 8. <br><br>The Bible that I love teaches me about
honesty, integrity and unconditional love for all people. But beyond
that, I am very careful about separating my personal faith and beliefs
from how we run our business. <br><br>I am personally motivated to
speak now because Marriott was built on the basic principles of respect
and inclusion. My father, who founded this company along with my
mother, told everyone who would listen: "Take care of your employees,
and they'll take care of your customers, who will come back again and
again." <br><br>For more than 80 years, our company has grown and
changed, but that basic principle still holds up. We embrace all people
as our customers, associates, owners and franchisees regardless of
race, sex, gender identity or sexual orientation.<br><br>Our principle is backed up with a <a href="http://www.marriott.com/corporateinfo/culture/Diversity.mi" target="_blank" title="Marriott's Diversity Initiatives">formal diversity program</a>,
which we established more than 20 years ago. Our Board of Directors has
also focused on this priority and helped us be a leader and a better
company. We were among the first in our industry to offer domestic
partner benefits, and we've earned a perfect 100% score on the Human
Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index for two years in a row. Many
of our hotels have hosted LGBT community functions and events for
years. <br><br>I am very proud of all of our associates at Marriott.
And I want all our associates and guests, whom we welcome into our
hotels, to know that we embrace your talents and thank you for your
many contributions and your business.<br><br>I'm Bill Marriott, and thanks for helping me keep Marriott on the Move. <br></div></div>]]></content:encoded><description>Famous Mormon Bill Marriott, Chairman and CEO of the Marriott International hotel company, defied LDS church leaders by refusing to donate money to the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign against gay marriage in California. He has now posted a statement...</description></item><item><title>Prop 8 Supporters Celebrate Denial of Rights</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2008/11/mormons-celebrate-bigotry.html</link><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:50:00 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-58094954</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Note: I have changed the title of this post from "Mormons Celebrate Bigotry" to "Prop 8 Supporters Celebrate Denial of Rights" because I think it more accurately reflects what is depicted in the phot and because the old title was unnecessarily provocative and unfair--not all Mormons supported Proposition 8, and many who supported it did so grudgingly.<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><br></span></p><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">The</span> Some Mormons, while mourning the Obama Presidential victory, are nonetheless celebrating the passage of Proposition 8 in California, which enshrines in the California Constitution discrimination against a minority of California's population--gays and lesbians, whose marriages will no longer be legally recognized in California.  <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Th</span>e These Mormons, including those who live in other states (such as Utah), were energetic and enthusiastic in working to deprive gays and lesbians of their right to marry.  In working so hard to pass Proposition 8, <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">the</span> some Mormons continued a long tradition of their religion to oppose civil rights.  In the 1960s, LDS leaders spoke strongly against civil rights for African-Americans, opposing integration and supporting politicians like George Wallace in his efforts to maintain "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever."  LDS apostles argued that segregation was God-inspired, and that to end segregation was to act against God.  For example, Elder Mark E. Petersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles said in 1954 that:</p><div style="margin-left: 40px;">Now we are generous with the Negro. We are willing that the Negro have
the highest education. I would be willing to let every Negro drive a
Cadillac if they could afford it. I would be willing that they have all
the advantages they can get out of life in the world. But let them
enjoy these things among themselves. I think the Lord segregated the
Negro and who is man to change that segregation? It reminds me of the
scripture on marriage, "what God hath joined together, let not man put
asunder." Only here we have the reverse of the thing - what God hath
separated, let not man bring together again. (Apostle Mark E. Peterson, <em>Race Problems - As They Affect The Church</em>, Convention of Teachers of Religion on the College Level, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, August 27, 1954)<br><br></div><p>For more quotes from LDS leaders on segregation and civil rights, see the <a href="http://www.mormonthink.com/blackweb.htm#racistcomments">Mormon Think</a> web site.  </p><p>The LA Times ran this photo of [some] Mormons [and others] celebrating their "victory" in denying gays and lesbians their constitutional rights:</p><p><a href="http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c688053ef010535dca95a970c-pi" style="display: inline;"><img alt="Prop 8 celeb" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c688053ef010535dca95a970c " src="http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c688053ef010535dca95a970c-800wi" title="Prop 8 celeb"></img></a>
 </p><p>Someday, I have a feeling many Mormons will be as embarrassed to have worked for the passage of Proposition 8 and to have been captured celebrating its passage, as they would be to have been captured in this photo:</p><p><a href="http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c688053ef010535d5fd85970b-pi" style="display: inline;"><img alt="Segreg rally" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c688053ef010535d5fd85970b image-full " src="http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c688053ef010535d5fd85970b-800wi" title="Segreg rally"></img></a>
 </p></div>]]></content:encoded><description>Note: I have changed the title of this post from "Mormons Celebrate Bigotry" to "Prop 8 Supporters Celebrate Denial of Rights" because I think it more accurately reflects what is depicted in the phot and because the old title was...</description></item><item><title>Equality's Election Prediction</title><link>http://equalitysblog.typepad.com/equality_time/2008/11/equalitys-elect.html</link><category>Politics</category><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Equality</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:09:51 PST</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:typepad.com,2003:post-56492053</guid><content:encoded xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><![CDATA[
<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Here is my prediction for the Presidential election:

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<p>I made this a month ago, and it follows what I have been saying since the conventions.  I haven't seen anything, with all the ups and downs of the campaign, to change the basic prediction of Obama in a landslide (yay).  I actually think that the result might be even more in Obama's favor--I think the Senator from Illinois has a decent chance at winning Georgia and Montana, which would take his total to 393.  To get over 400, he'd have to take Arizona or maybe North Dakota and West Virginia, which might be a bit of a stretch (but wouldn't shock me).  I will be shocked if Obama wins with less than 300 electoral votes.</p> 

<p>In the Senate, I think the Dems end up with 58 seats, including Elizabeth Dole's seat from North Carolina (which will serve her right for the slanderous ad she ran against her opponent).  In the House, I expect the Dems to win a net of about 30 seats.  Say hello to a one-party Washington.</p></div>
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