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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Incarnatio Address: &lt;a href="http://www.mattoreilly.net/"&gt;http://www.mattoreilly.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Incarnatio Feed: &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/Incarnatio"&gt;http://feeds.feedburner.com/Incarnatio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-114538815487182840?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/RiE794iFeyU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/114538815487182840/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=114538815487182840" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/114538815487182840?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/114538815487182840?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/RiE794iFeyU/this-blog-has-moved.html" title="This Blog has Moved" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2010/07/this-blog-has-moved.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEADQHg-fyp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-6244572176800316900</id><published>2010-02-13T11:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:46:11.657-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:46:11.657-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Calvin and Calvinism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>General Call or Special Call?</title><content type="html">If I understand them correctly, Calvinists maintain that within the general call of the gospel to all who hear it, there is a special call by which the Holy Spirit effects regeneration in the elect.&amp;nbsp; Arminians disagree with the notion of a special call and on biblical grounds.&amp;nbsp; In the parable of the sower and its explanation&amp;nbsp;(Mark 4:1-20), Jesus teaches that the word is sown like seed, but it falls on different types of soil that represent the responses of different people to the gospel.&amp;nbsp; Some hear the word and Satan takes away what is sown.&amp;nbsp; Some hear the word and receive it with joy but only for last for a little while.&amp;nbsp; Some hear the word but are lured away by the desires of the world.&amp;nbsp; In contrast to the first three, the last group hears the word, accepts it, and produces fruit - thirty, sixty, or one hundred fold.&amp;nbsp; One important feature to see in this parable and its explanation is that the same word is sown in each type of soil.&amp;nbsp; There is no special seed that goes to the soil that bears fruit.&amp;nbsp; Likewise, there is no special call that awakens the elect.&amp;nbsp; The same gospel and the same call goes out to different people.&amp;nbsp; It bears fruit in their lives on the condition of faith; they must hear and accept the gospel, the very same gospel that those who persist in unbelief hear.&amp;nbsp; In the parable, the difference is not the word; the difference is the soil.&amp;nbsp; The condition of election is not a special call; the condition of election is faith, the acceptance of the sown word.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-6244572176800316900?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/jBaO7O6AypY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/6244572176800316900/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=6244572176800316900" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/6244572176800316900?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/6244572176800316900?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/jBaO7O6AypY/general-call-or-special-call.html" title="General Call or Special Call?" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2010/02/general-call-or-special-call.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEEDQngyfyp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-3247969478649660887</id><published>2010-02-06T18:07:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:44:33.697-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:44:33.697-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Why I'm not a Universalist - Resistible Grace</title><content type="html">I tend to think that Universalism - the view that God will eventually save all people not condemning any - is probably more widespread than many people suspect.&amp;nbsp; Some move from Calvinism to Universalism because they think if a thoroughly good God monergistically saves people, then he must do that for all.&amp;nbsp; Some Arminians may tend towards Universalism because they emphasize God's love for all people.&amp;nbsp; If God loves everyone, then will he not ultimately save everyone?&amp;nbsp; In this post, I intend to show that Universalism is incompatible with Arminianism.&amp;nbsp; I will do so by highlighting the incoherency of attempting to combine&amp;nbsp;Universalism with&amp;nbsp;one of the&amp;nbsp;primary tenets of Arminianism, namely&amp;nbsp;resistible grace.&lt;br /&gt;
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Universalism is incompatible with the biblical and Arminian doctrine of resistible grace.&amp;nbsp; To be a Universalist you must believe that God will one day save all people.&amp;nbsp; This means that God will one day have to overcome their resistance to him.&amp;nbsp; If he does not, then theoretically the salvation project could go on infinitely.&amp;nbsp; If God is to save all, and if we are to have any sort of biblical eschatology with bodily resurrection for those who are in Christ, then God must eventually overcome the resistance of those who persist in disobedience and unbelief in order to transform them into the likeness of the resurrected Christ.&amp;nbsp; Even if there is the opportunity for post-mortem salvation (which is unbiblical), these persons could resist forever.&amp;nbsp; God would eventually have to overcome their resistance.&lt;br /&gt;
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Arminianism holds that grace is resistible. God, by his gracious call in the gospel, enables human beings to respond in faith, but he does not force their conversion.&amp;nbsp; In this sovereignly chosen framework, God will not save everyone.&amp;nbsp; If he did, he would have to break through their resistance and coerce their wills.&amp;nbsp; The Arminian vision of resistible grace is incompatible with Universalism.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, to answer the question as to why I'm not a Universalist (other than that&amp;nbsp;it seems quite incompatible with scripture), I'm not a Universalist precisely because I'm Arminian.&amp;nbsp; Univeralists&amp;nbsp;must be committed to a Calvinistic model of&amp;nbsp;irresistible grace.&amp;nbsp; I believe with all Arminians that grace is indeed&amp;nbsp;resistible.&amp;nbsp; God will not overcome the wills of those who persist in unbelief.&amp;nbsp; Thus, if there is ever to be a consummation of the kingdom of Heaven, it regrettably cannot include all people who have ever lived.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-3247969478649660887?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/paUaGs1ONYE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/3247969478649660887/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=3247969478649660887" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/3247969478649660887?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/3247969478649660887?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/paUaGs1ONYE/why-im-not-universalist-resistible.html" title="Why I'm not a Universalist - Resistible Grace" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-im-not-universalist-resistible.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEABQ3c9fip7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-7623906722970962790</id><published>2009-12-22T07:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:45:52.966-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:45:52.966-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Calvin and Calvinism" /><title>The Importance of Recognizing Metaphor and Analogy</title><content type="html">Once again, I find myself compelled to respond to something Douglas Wilson has said on &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/douglaswils/statuses/6920062492"&gt;his Twitter page&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Once again,&amp;nbsp;let&amp;nbsp;me say up front that I like Doug, think a lot of him, appreciate much&amp;nbsp;of his work,&amp;nbsp;disagree&amp;nbsp;vehemently with his Calvinism.&amp;nbsp; So here goes.&amp;nbsp; Doug said, "Some reject the idea that regenerating grace is irresistible. But nobody objects to the fact that our physical birth was irresistible."&amp;nbsp; I would of course be one of those people.&amp;nbsp; Yes, regenerating grace is resistible.&amp;nbsp; No, physical birth is not.&amp;nbsp; This matter comes up frequently in Calvinist/Arminian discussion and is worthy of attention.&amp;nbsp; The issue is that, like other Calvinists, Wilson fails to appropriate the metaphorical relationship between&amp;nbsp;physical birth and spiritual birth.&amp;nbsp; Physical birth is a metaphor for spiritual birth; physical death is a metaphor for spiritual death.&amp;nbsp; If one thing is a metaphor for another, then they have some characteristics in common and others not in common.&amp;nbsp; They have both similarities and differences, and, in that sense, they are analogous and not identical.&lt;br /&gt;
A particularly illustrative text&amp;nbsp;comes in the opening verses of Ephesians 2.&amp;nbsp; There Paul says that Ephesian Chrsitians were once dead through tresspasses and sins.&amp;nbsp; Here he is speaking of spiritual deadness, and the idea of physical death, with&amp;nbsp;which most of us have&amp;nbsp;come in contact, informs our thinking of the spiritual death of which Paul speaks.&amp;nbsp; That Paul is using metaphor is indicated by his saying that these tresspasses and sins are something in which the Ephesians formerly walked.&amp;nbsp; Now physically dead people don't normally walk in anything not least tresspasses and sin.&amp;nbsp; In contrast, spiritual death does involve some activity in tresspassing.&amp;nbsp; They are similar in that both are undesirable states, but the similarity does not extend to every characteristic of&amp;nbsp;death.&amp;nbsp; Thus, the analogical and metaphorical nature of Paul's claim.&amp;nbsp; You were dead in your sins and that is both similar and different from being dead in the ground.&amp;nbsp; Paul goes on to declare that God has made the Ephesians alive by grace through faith.&amp;nbsp; Like spiritual death, spiritual life should be informed by what we know of physical life.&amp;nbsp; Both are indeed desirable and good.&amp;nbsp; This most certainly does not mean that both are alike in every respect.&amp;nbsp; And&amp;nbsp;one of the ways&amp;nbsp;in which they are not alike seems to be the matter of the resistibility of the one, namely spiritual life,&amp;nbsp;and the irresistibility of the other, namely physical life.&amp;nbsp; Spiritual life is received through faith, according to Paul, which is an active response to grace.&amp;nbsp; So, the spiritually dead, by preceding grace, can evidently do something that conditions their regeneration,&amp;nbsp;that is&amp;nbsp;respond with faith.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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It is important to remember that metaphors and analogies are metaphors and analogies precisely because they are not the&amp;nbsp;things to which they are metaphorical and analogous.&amp;nbsp; This distinction must be rightly appropriated if we are to understand biblical soteriology aright.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-7623906722970962790?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/8VhK0ZS_0D4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/7623906722970962790/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=7623906722970962790" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/7623906722970962790?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/7623906722970962790?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/8VhK0ZS_0D4/importance-of-recognizing-metaphor-and.html" title="The Importance of Recognizing Metaphor and Analogy" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/12/importance-of-recognizing-metaphor-and.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CE8FRX88fSp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-5023630604837609261</id><published>2009-12-04T10:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:46:54.175-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:46:54.175-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Calvin and Calvinism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Don't Blame Me for Being Arminian</title><content type="html">Let me say first that I have a great deal of appreciation and resepect for Douglas Wilson.&amp;nbsp; Though I disagree with his Calvinism, I think his work in the area of education and family are incredibly valuable.&amp;nbsp; His debates with the new atheists are outstanding.&amp;nbsp; Indeed, I am very close to him in terms of the overall covenantal structure of his theology, as would have been Wesley and Arminius.&amp;nbsp; Now for a very brief critique.&amp;nbsp; Wilson recently &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/douglaswils/statuses/6337690090"&gt;wrote&lt;/a&gt;, "Don't blame me for becoming a Calvinist.&amp;nbsp; I couldn't help it."&amp;nbsp; Now it certainly is not fair to levy a full-scale critique of an all to brief status update on Twitter.&amp;nbsp; There is not&amp;nbsp;enough context to really&amp;nbsp;deal with the issues.&amp;nbsp; For all I know he could have intended this comment in jest or&amp;nbsp;jokingly.&amp;nbsp; However, the post raises precisely the question which concerns Arminians about the Calvinistic view of freedom and responsibility.&amp;nbsp; If God indeed determines our actions and beliefs ahead of time, then how can we be held responsible for them?&amp;nbsp; With&amp;nbsp;Wilson's logic and in his worldview&amp;nbsp;I can equally say, "Don't blame me for being Arminian.&amp;nbsp; I couldn't help it."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-5023630604837609261?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/II6Is8XLYKU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/5023630604837609261/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=5023630604837609261" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/5023630604837609261?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/5023630604837609261?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/II6Is8XLYKU/dont-blame-me-for-being-arminian.html" title="Don't Blame Me for Being Arminian" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/12/dont-blame-me-for-being-arminian.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CE8BRnw9fSp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-5625665180601854164</id><published>2009-09-12T08:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:47:37.265-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:47:37.265-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>The Grace of God and the Bondage of the Will</title><content type="html">"For God is the one who works in you both to will and to work for the sake of his good pleasure." Philippians 2:13&lt;br /&gt;
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Arminians often tout the importance of the freedom of the will while often forgetting the importance of understanding the bondage of the will. I've met seminarians who did not understand that we are not born with the freedom to will rightly and to will in such a way that is pleasing to God. Philippians 2:13 is instructive in this situation.&lt;br /&gt;
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First, the will, and any freedom it might have, is understood as a gift in this passage. Paul has just exhorted the Philippians to live out the salvation that Christ has secured through his obedient life, death, and resurrection. Paul's command to work out, or live out the implications of, our common salvation is grounded in the fact that God is already at work in us enabling our wills. This, of course, means that our wills lack ability in their natural state. If God has to do the work so that we can will, then we do not have freedom of will when we come into the world. It's all gift. This means that when we reject this gift, we are rejecting freedom of the will. To resist grace is to run to slavery. &lt;br /&gt;
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Second, God does this work for the sake of his own good pleasure. It pleases God to free our wills so that we can will what he wills. It pleases him that we would share his pleasures. It is a good and comforting thing to know that God is at work in us to give us freedom because he enjoys it. &lt;br /&gt;
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Arminians need to strive for clarity with regard to the biblical teaching on freedom of the will. We need to acknowledge that, apart from grace, our wills are in bondage to sin. Only through the God's good pleasure to work in us to will as he wills are we able to experience the freedom of our will's natural bondage.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-5625665180601854164?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/R_p8zOEIs80" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/5625665180601854164/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=5625665180601854164" title="6 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/5625665180601854164?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/5625665180601854164?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/R_p8zOEIs80/grace-of-god-and-bondage-of-will.html" title="The Grace of God and the Bondage of the Will" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>6</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/09/grace-of-god-and-bondage-of-will.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CE8NQH85fyp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-7895050428654942729</id><published>2009-05-29T09:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:48:11.127-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:48:11.127-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pauline Epistles" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>"In You" or "Among You All": Philippians 1:6 and the Perseverance of the Saints</title><content type="html">Arminians are not of one mind with regard to the doctrine of perseverance. Some Arminians see perseverance as a gift which God gives to those who respond to the gospel in faith. These Arminians believe that a true believer will not finally fall away from grace. Other Arminians believe that perseverance is conditional on the continuing faith of the believer, and that it is possible for a truly justified person to be cut off from right relationship with God and perish eternally. For many years I held the former view. This was not necessarily because of rock solid exegesis of scripture. Rather, it was based on the comfort that comes with the idea that the truly converted will certainly be finally saved. In recent years, though, my mind was changed about this doctrine, and I moved over to the position that one could lose their justification. I felt that, if I were to be intellectually honest, the New Testament clearly teaches that the people of God are liable to judgment for unfaithfulness. One of the clearest texts on this (and the crucial text that changed my thinking) is Romans 11:17-25 where Paul warns the Gentiles who stand by faith (&lt;em&gt;pistis&lt;/em&gt;) against becoming proud. He then holds up unbelieving (&lt;em&gt;apistis&lt;/em&gt;) Israel as an example saying to the believing Gentile, "if God did not spare the original branches, he will not spare you, either" (21, NASB). This is no picture of a believer wrenching his salvation from God's fist. No, this is an image of God judging the believer who has become faithless. I resisted this reading for a while. But ultimately I must be honest about what Paul says no matter how uncomfortable it may be.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point, the reader may be wondering why this post is dealing with Romans when the title clearly indicates that the content will focus on Philippians. Well, here it is. Philippians 1:6 was the text that I held on to in order to maintain that my former position on perseverance (or perhaps more properly - &lt;em&gt;preservation&lt;/em&gt;) was biblical. Even after I changed my mind I wasn't quite sure what to do with Philippians 1:6. Recently, though, I began to read through Philippians 1 in Greek and was struck by what Paul actually says. I've always taken this text to mean that God would complete his good work in me as an individual. The problem with taking this reading is that it neglects the fact that the English pronoun "you" can be either singular or plural. In Greek, though, there are two different words for you - one singular and the other plural. In Philippians 1:6 Paul uses the plural word for "you" (&lt;em&gt;humin&lt;/em&gt;). The pronoun is the object of the preposition &lt;em&gt;en&lt;/em&gt; which is often translated "in" but can really function with much more variety than that. One of the chief functions of this preposition is to indicate the location or sphere in which an event or action occurs. Thus, Paul could mean that the location where God's good work will be brought to completion is in the plural &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; that is the Philippian church. The verse could be translated thus: "The one who began a good work &lt;em&gt;among you all&lt;/em&gt; will complete it until the day of Christ" (cf. NRSV) The community of believers is the sphere where God is at work, and it is the sphere where his good work will be brought to eschatological fulfillment at the day of Christ. This is a different matter than whether or not the good work is brought to completion in the life of an individual, a matter that Philippians 1:6 simply is not addressing. Paul's confidence that God is at work in the Philippian church and will complete that work is grounded in &lt;em&gt;that &lt;/em&gt;church's participation in the ministry of the gospel (5). Even if some individuals fall away from the work, it does not mean that God's purposes for the church as a whole corporate community will not be brought to perfection.&lt;br /&gt;
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In conclusion, then, Philippians 1:6 is not speaking to the issue of the final perseverance of individual Christians. That question is not raised in this text. Rather, Philippians 1:6 is evidence for the Arminian view of corporate election. God has chosen his church and will complete the work that he is doing in his church. One comes into the church through faith, and, according to Romans 11:17-25 out of the church through non-faith. But even if some fall away, it does not mean that God's work in the church is thwarted. Indeed, it is he who breaks of the branches because of their unbelief (Romans 11:20).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-7895050428654942729?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/0LMN50ifH8g" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/7895050428654942729/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=7895050428654942729" title="7 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/7895050428654942729?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/7895050428654942729?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/0LMN50ifH8g/in-you-or-among-you-all-philippians-16.html" title="&quot;In You&quot; or &quot;Among You All&quot;: Philippians 1:6 and the Perseverance of the Saints" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>7</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/05/in-you-or-among-you-all-philippians-16.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CE4FRXs_eCp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-4799100121779212464</id><published>2009-05-20T14:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:48:34.540-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:48:34.540-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Calvin and Calvinism" /><title>Why the Author of Hebrews Wouldn't Have Been a Calvinist</title><content type="html">Hebrews 10:26-30 is known for its shocking and drastic declarations. In the span of five verses, the author deals with both issues of the extent of the atonement and the perseverance of the saints. The author creates a comparative contrast between the Mosaic covenant and the covenant of Christ (28-29). He is claiming that the member of the Mosaic covenant who violated that covenant was judged by the terms of that covenant. He goes on to indicate that the punishment for those who spurn the Son of God will be that much worse. The comparison here involves the similarity between the Mosaic covenant and the Messianic covenant that whoever violates them will be judged according to the covenant of which he is a member. The contrast involves the varying degree of punishment. If condemnation was that bad for the one who violated Moses, how bad do you think it will be for the one who violates &lt;em&gt;the Son of God&lt;/em&gt;. Several observations are worth making here.&lt;br /&gt;
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1. The author of the Hebrews does not presuppose that membership in the covenant of Christ translates into final salvation. He sees this as a commonality between the Mosaic and the Messianic covenants. There are those who can be sanctified by the blood of the covenant of Christ who persist in sin and fail to receive the salvation that is the ultimate and final benefit of the covenant relationship. That is to say, the author of Hebrews did not believe in the final and necessary perseverance of the saints. Note that the verb "to sanctify" (&lt;em&gt;hagiadzo&lt;/em&gt;) is from the same Greek root as the word for saint (&lt;em&gt;hagios&lt;/em&gt;). &lt;br /&gt;
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2. Since the author does not presuppose that covenant membership guarantees final salvation, he presupposes that one may be sanctified by the blood of Christ and yet fall away. Thus, he also takes it to be the case that the benefits of Christ's blood extend to some who may ultimately fall from grace and experience the covenantal curse. This means that the author of Hebrews did not believe that the atonement was only intended for those who would be ultimately saved. &lt;br /&gt;
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So, Hebrews teaches the possibility that the saints may fall away and that the potential benefits of the atonement extend to those who may not be saved. For these reasons, the author of the letter to the Hebrews would not have been a Calvinist.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-4799100121779212464?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/1PLt8wKCDk4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/4799100121779212464/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=4799100121779212464" title="23 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/4799100121779212464?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/4799100121779212464?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/1PLt8wKCDk4/why-author-of-hebrews-wouldnt-have-been.html" title="Why the Author of Hebrews Wouldn't Have Been a Calvinist" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>23</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-author-of-hebrews-wouldnt-have-been.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CE4HR3Y7fSp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-1159169808379872450</id><published>2009-05-19T06:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:48:56.805-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:48:56.805-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Calvin and Calvinism" /><title>To Calvinists from a Calvinist: Let's Calm Down</title><content type="html">I was happy to see a post by Calvinist blogger C. Michael Patton calling for Calvinists to "calm down." I was most pleased to see Patton calling Calvinists to account for commonly associating Arminians with various heretical positions. Patton's attitude is to be greatly appreciated, and if both sides took his tone more often, then the debate would be more productive. I've copied a few exerpts below or you can read &lt;a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/05/calvinists-lets-calm-down/"&gt;the whole thing&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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"Calvinists: Don’t send me any more emails talking about the “heresy” of Arminianism. I don’t get excited. Don’t forward me any more videos that dramatize the departure of Arminian theology. I won’t ride that bus. If you do, with sadness, I will just delete them. Not because of the message telling me “Ten Reasons Arminians Have a Different Gospel,” but because the message you give when you forward this kind of stuff."&lt;br /&gt;
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"Are Arminians wrong? This is what we believe, but the seriousness of their departure should not be overstated. We treat each other with great respect, knowing their love for Christ and the image of God they bear."&lt;br /&gt;
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"The rhetoric that is out there is embarrassing. I am sick of having to explain over and over again what Calvinism is not before I get to what it is. “No, we are not arrogant.” (At least we are not supposed to be.) “No we don’t think we are better than others.” (How could we? Don’t we promote the doctrines of grace? Do we even know what grace means?) And, most importantly, “No, we don’t think Arminians are going to hell.” If you do, then you are way out of line."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-1159169808379872450?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/3WXzIweh17I" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/1159169808379872450/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=1159169808379872450" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/1159169808379872450?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/1159169808379872450?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/3WXzIweh17I/to-calvinists-from-calvinist-lets-calm.html" title="To Calvinists from a Calvinist: Let's Calm Down" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/05/to-calvinists-from-calvinist-lets-calm.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CE4CRnY8eSp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-7781361471734731141</id><published>2009-05-06T19:55:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:49:27.871-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:49:27.871-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pauline Epistles" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>The Transgression, the Gift, and the Many: Romans 5 and the Unlimited Scope of the Atonement</title><content type="html">Calvinists and Arminians disagree over the scope of Jesus' atoning work. Calvinists argue that the saving work of Jesus is intended exclusively for the elect. God has chosen the unchangeable number of those to be saved, and Christ's work is effective for them alone. Arminians see this as a denial of the clear teaching of scripture that the scope of Christ's atoning work is unlimited being sufficient for the salvation of every person and applied to a person on the condition of faith in Christ.&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the key texts for the Arminian understanding of unlimited atonement is Romans 5:15, 18-19 where Paul says, "But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died through the one man's trespass, much more surely have the grace of God and the free gift in the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abounded for the many...Therefore just as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all, so one man's act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all. For just as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous."&lt;br /&gt;
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For Paul, if we are to understand the nature of Christ's atoning work for us, we need to understand the nature of Adam's transgression. The sin of the one man, Adam, led to death for all. In Adam, all sinned and died. In his sin, Adam represented the &lt;em&gt;entire &lt;/em&gt;human race and the &lt;em&gt;entire&lt;/em&gt; human race fell as a consequence. Paul's term for the &lt;em&gt;entire &lt;/em&gt;human race here is "the many." Calvinists and Arminians agree that the extent of the fall was unlimited with regard to the &lt;em&gt;whole&lt;/em&gt; human race.&lt;br /&gt;
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Paul draws out the similarity between the transgression of Adam and the obedience of Christ through his use of the term "the many." In Adam&lt;em&gt;, the many&lt;/em&gt; were made sinners. Likewise, in Christ, grace abounds to &lt;em&gt;the many&lt;/em&gt;. That means that the scope of the atonement is equal to the scope of Adam's transgression. The work of Christ abounds to all those who, in Adam, sinned and died. If Adam's transgression caused the &lt;em&gt;entire &lt;/em&gt;human race to fall, then the provision of Christ's atoning work is extended to the &lt;em&gt;entire &lt;/em&gt;human race as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now if there is similarity between Adam and Christ, there is also a difference. In Adam, all died without condition. However, in Christ, the benefits of his saving work are applied on the condition of faith, as Paul has indicated earlier in the letter (cf. 3:21-26). This is what guards us against using this text to teach universal salvation.&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be clear, then, that the provision for salvation in Christ extends as far as the penalty of Adam's transgression. That is, the atoning work of Christ is &lt;em&gt;unlimited &lt;/em&gt;in its scope.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-7781361471734731141?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/hidY_nruOvg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/7781361471734731141/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=7781361471734731141" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/7781361471734731141?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/7781361471734731141?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/hidY_nruOvg/transgression-gift-and-many-romans-5.html" title="The Transgression, the Gift, and the Many: Romans 5 and the Unlimited Scope of the Atonement" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/05/transgression-gift-and-many-romans-5.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CE4NRn8zcSp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-6178022394203762215</id><published>2009-04-27T19:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:49:57.189-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:49:57.189-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>John MacArthur Misrepresents Arminianism</title><content type="html">At the 2008 Together for the Gospel Conference, John MacArthur delivered a message entitled &lt;a href="http://t4g.org/08/media/"&gt;"The Sinner Neither Able Nor Willing: The Doctrine of Absolute Inability"&lt;/a&gt; in which he grossly misrepresented Arminian theology by saying:&lt;br /&gt;
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"So that the sinner unaided by the Holy Spirit must make the first move. That is essentially Arminian theology. The sinner unaided must make the first move, and God will then respond when the sinner makes the first move. What the Bible teaches is that the sinner can't and won't. He is unable and unwilling."&lt;br /&gt;
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This incredible statement is both misleading and misrepresentative of Arminius' own thinking and of those who faithfully carry on the biblical understanding of salvation he taught. This can be easily demonstrated by looking to the sources. Arminius said this:&lt;br /&gt;
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"But in his lapsed and sinful state, man is not capable, of and by himself, either to think, to will, or to do that which is really good; but it is necessary for him to be regenerated and renewed in his intellect, affections or will, and in all his powers, by God in Christ through the Holy Spirit, that he may be qualified rightly to understand, esteem, consider, will, and perform whatever is truly good. When he is made a partaker of this regeneration or renovation, I consider that, since he is delivered from sin, he is capable of thinking, willing, and doing that which is good, but yet not without the continued aids of Divine Grace" ("Declaration of Sentiments," &lt;em&gt;Works&lt;/em&gt;, I:659-60). &lt;br /&gt;
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Like MacArthur, Arminius affirms the incapability of any person to think, will, or do any good. Note also that Arminius affirms the &lt;em&gt;necessity&lt;/em&gt; of the regenerating work of the Triune God if the sinner is to be able to do anything good, not least turn toward God. Clearly in Arminius' thinking, God takes the initiative.&lt;br /&gt;
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A quote from another well known Arminian thinker further demonstrates the inaccuracy of MacArthur's statement. In his sermon on "Original Sin," John Wesley said this:&lt;br /&gt;
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"No man loves God by nature, any more than he does a stone, or the earth he treads upon. What we love we delight in; But no man has naturally any delight in God. In our natural state we cannot conceive how any one should delight in him. We take no pleasure in him at all; he is utterly tasteless to us. To love God! it is far above, out of our sight. We cannot, naturally, attain unto it" (&lt;em&gt;Works&lt;/em&gt;, VI:59).&lt;br /&gt;
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And in his sermon on "The New Birth" Wesley says this:&lt;br /&gt;
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"And in Adam all died, all human kind, all the children of men who were then in Adam's loins. The natural consequence of this is, that every one descended from him comes into the world spiritually dead, dead to God, wholly dead in sin; entirely void of the life of God; void of the image of God, of all that righteousness and holiness wherein Adam was created. Instead of this, every man born into the world now bears the image of the devil in pride and self-will; the image of the beast, in sensual appetites and desires...While a man is in a mere natural state, before he is born of God, he has, in a spiritual sense, eyes and sees not; a thick impenetrable veil lies upon them; he has ears, but hears not; he is utterly deaf to what he is most of all concerned to hear. His other spiritual senses are all locked up. He is in the same condition as if he had them not" (&lt;em&gt;Works&lt;/em&gt;, VI:68, 70).&lt;br /&gt;
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I quote at length here to make the point. Both Arminius and Wesley taught that human beings, in their natural and carnal state, are neither willing nor able to turn to God. Human beings come into this world with a distaste for God and no interest in turning to him. God always makes the first move which enables any response on the part of the sinner. God always takes the initiative in salvation!&lt;br /&gt;
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Now there may be some that call themselves Arminian while teaching that human beings must make the first move toward God. These, though, should be recognized as the semi-Pelagians that they are. True Arminians believe in the initiating priority of divine grace in contrast to semi-Pelagians who falsely teach that fallen humans have the ability to initiate salvation (see Roger E. Olson, &lt;em&gt;Arminian Theology&lt;/em&gt;, 15-16). The Society of Evangelical Arminians exists today to carry faithfully carry on Arminius' biblical teaching. Their &lt;a href="http://evangelicalarminians.org/sof"&gt;statement of faith&lt;/a&gt; reads:&lt;br /&gt;
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"In and of themselves and apart from the grace of God human beings can neither think, will, nor do anything good, including believe. But the prevenient grace of God prepares and enables sinners to receive the free gift of salvation offered in Christ and his gospel. Only through the grace of God can sinners believe and so be regenerated by the Holy Spirit unto salvation and spiritual life."&lt;br /&gt;
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MacArthur has committed the straw man fallacy by setting up a false opponent to tear down. He has misrepresented Arminian theology and set the misrepresentation in contrast to the Bible. His statements show his lack of familiarity with the theology of those he argues against. But the sources ring out against him and demonstrate the falsity of his claim. If he desires to engage Arminian theology in the Spirit of Christ and with honesty, then he ought to seek to understand the system well enough to represent it fairly and accurately. If he is a man of integrity, he will withdraw this incredulous claim.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-6178022394203762215?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/KjNMB9g1VbE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/6178022394203762215/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=6178022394203762215" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/6178022394203762215?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/6178022394203762215?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/KjNMB9g1VbE/john-macarthur-misrepresents.html" title="John MacArthur Misrepresents Arminianism" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/04/john-macarthur-misrepresents.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUcAQHk6fip7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-3286831224293956443</id><published>2009-02-14T18:19:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:50:41.716-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:50:41.716-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Falling Away in Galatians Five</title><content type="html">"You have been cut off from Christ, you who would be justified by the law, you have fallen from grace." Galatians 5:4&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of Paul's most severe language is found in his letter to the Galatians. This letter is also the place where some of his clearest language on perseverance and falling away can be found. This verse from chapter 5 is one of those places. To say that one has been cut off from Christ implies that one is joined to Christ in the first place. The Galatian Christians, having been justified by grace, joined to Christ, and received the Spirit, are now trying to maintain their standing with God on the basis of Torah observance. Instead of moving forward in salvation history as God has designed, they are seeking to move back to a previous covenantal administration which is a denial of the gospel of Christ. The point is that Paul is dealing with those who have the Spirit (Gal 3:3) and have been joined to Christ, and yet he sees it as a real possibility that they could be cut off from Christ and lose their justification. Paul does not see them as being without hope; that's why he wrote the letter. He is quite clear, though, that despite being joined to Christ, their final perseverance is in jeopardy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-3286831224293956443?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/RFNaXaZhlkc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/3286831224293956443/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=3286831224293956443" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/3286831224293956443?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/3286831224293956443?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/RFNaXaZhlkc/falling-away-in-galatians-five.html" title="Falling Away in Galatians Five" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/02/falling-away-in-galatians-five.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUcCQHY4eyp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-47205416987005138</id><published>2009-02-14T09:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:51:01.833-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:51:01.833-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Arminian Theology and Open Theism</title><content type="html">Open Theism is a school of thought which believes that God does not have exhaustive foreknowledge of the future. Their view comes about after attempts to reconcile human freedom and divine foreknowledge. Open Theists reject that these two concepts are reconcilable and ultimately reject the idea that God does indeed have exhaustive foreknowledge. If the future has truly undetermined and uncaused decisions and actions, they say, then God cannot fully know the future because much of it is not available to be known. They claim that God has decided to limit his knowledge of the future in order to maintain human freedom as a necessary quality of a meaningful relationship. Some have argued that this view is a necessary implication and a logical development of Arminian theology, and those who have made a move towards openness theology are usually from the Arminian tradition. This is unfortunate, though, because Classical Arminian theology has historically affirmed God's exhaustive foreknowledge of the future. This post will look at two weighty historical sources to show that Open Theism constitutes not a development but a denial of Classical Arminian thought.&lt;br /&gt;
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Our first source is James Arminius himself. While expounding his understanding of the divine decrees in his "Declaration of Sentiments" , Arminius said, "To these succeeds the FOURTH decree, by which God decreed to save and damn certain particular persons. This decree has its foundation in the foreknowledge of God, by which he knew from all eternity those individuals who &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt;, through his preventing [prevenient] grace, &lt;em&gt;believe&lt;/em&gt;, and, through his subsequent grace &lt;em&gt;would persevere&lt;/em&gt;...and, by which foreknowledge, he likewise know those who &lt;em&gt;would not believe and persevere&lt;/em&gt;" (quoted in R. Olson, &lt;em&gt;Arminian Theology&lt;/em&gt;, 184). &lt;br /&gt;
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It should be clear here that Arminius, far from rejecting the foreknowledge of God, grounded his understanding of predestination and election in the fact of God's foreknowledge. Arminius understood God to be able to look into the future to see who would respond to his grace both in justification and perseverance. God then determined to save those whom he foreknew would respond to his grace by faith. Those who would be faithful to Arminius' thinking must affirm God's foreknowledge as the ground of God's predetermination. &lt;br /&gt;
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Our second historical source is, perhaps, the most famous and well-known Arminian second only to Arminius himself - John Wesley. In his sermon "On Predestination," Wesley argued that the foreknowledge of God is the first point to be addressed in considering God's whole work in salvation." Wesley said that, "God &lt;em&gt;foreknew &lt;/em&gt;those in every nation who would believe," and that, "In a word, God, looking on all ages, from the creation to the consummation, as a moment, and seeing at once whatever is in the hearts of all children of men, knows every one that does or does not believe, in every age or nation" (&lt;em&gt;Works&lt;/em&gt;, VI.226-7). Wesley saw no conflict between human moral freedom and divine foreknowledge. He affirmed that though God knew the future, he did not determine it. Wesley believed that we must not think that things are because God knows them; rather, God knows them because they are (&lt;em&gt;Works&lt;/em&gt;, VI.227). Like Arminius, Wesley saw God's divine foreknowledge as the ground of his predetermination to save those who believe and damn those who do not believe.&lt;br /&gt;
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Both Arminius and Wesley held this view of God's foreknowledge as the basis of his predetermination because they found it in Scripture. In Romans 8:29, it is precisely those who God foreknows that he determines to justify and finally glorify. Arminius and Wesley faithfully affirmed the foreknowledge of God and its place in salvation because of their faithfulness to Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be clear then that Open Theism cannot be a development of Arminian theology. Classical Arminians cannot reject God's foreknowledge because it is a central aspect of Arminius' own thinking not to mention that of Wesley. Further, Classical Arminians cannot reject God's foreknowledge because divine foreknowledge is the scripturally taught foundation of God's predetermination. Rather than say they are developing Arminian theology, Open Theists should have the integrity to say they are making a departure from the founding teachings of Arminianism. Open Theism is a denial not a development of historic Arminian theology.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-47205416987005138?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/3UdYGxABFak" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/47205416987005138/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=47205416987005138" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/47205416987005138?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/47205416987005138?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/3UdYGxABFak/arminian-theology-and-open-theism.html" title="Arminian Theology and Open Theism" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/02/arminian-theology-and-open-theism.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUcNSXo5eip7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-4448797177063929373</id><published>2009-01-18T15:23:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:51:38.422-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:51:38.422-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Calvin and Calvinism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Understanding Each Other: The Central Difference Between Calvinists and Arminians</title><content type="html">The ongoing debate between Calvinists and Arminians is often complicated by misunderstandings of the other side. This is particularly the case when it comes to the central convictions which form the foundation and inform the remainder of both Calvinistic and Arminian thinking. One reason for such misunderstandings is that we all too often read only those who agree with us rather than those who actually hold positions different from our own. All parties will benefit from engagement with primary sources on the other side of the theological issue. &lt;br /&gt;
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One of the central issues over which Calvinists and Arminians disagree, and of which there seems to be great misunderstanding, is that of where one should begin doing theology or the central proposition from which the rest of our respective theologies stem. Arminians often think Calvinists are committed primarily to a certain understanding of predestination. This, however, is not the fundamental commitment of Calvinists. Instead, Calvinists are first and foremost committed to the ultimate sovereignty of God in salvation. They are attempting to guard against the possibility of the glorious work of God in salvation being attributed to some form of human effort which, they think, is a consequence of Arminian theology. Their understanding of unconditional election, predestination, etc. flows out of this basic commitment to the meticulous sovereignty of God in salvation. &lt;br /&gt;
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In contrast, it is often thought that Arminians are primarily committed to the freedom of the human will. This, though, is not the case. Classical and faithful Arminians do not actually affirm that humans have any natural freedom of the will. Instead, with the Calvinists, we affirm that the will is in bondage to sin. The fundamental issue and the starting point for our theology is the character of God. We believe that the concept of unconditional election necessarily implies the coordinate doctrine of unconditional reprobation. Such an implication, we claim, impugns the character of God by making him the author of evil. Thus, our fundamental commitment is to upholding and defending the character of God which only &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; leads to our understanding of the will as having been &lt;em&gt;freed&lt;/em&gt; and enabled by grace to respond to the offer of salvation freely by faith. &lt;br /&gt;
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These commitment are at the heart of the debate. The Calvinist/Arminian dialogue will be more fruitful if we understand these central convictions rather than arguing against inaccurate perceptions of the other side.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-4448797177063929373?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/lqteqKA_TMA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/4448797177063929373/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=4448797177063929373" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/4448797177063929373?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/4448797177063929373?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/lqteqKA_TMA/understanding-each-other-central.html" title="Understanding Each Other: The Central Difference Between Calvinists and Arminians" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2009/01/understanding-each-other-central.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUYGSXw6eSp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-4216090097741303910</id><published>2008-12-05T05:11:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:52:08.211-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:52:08.211-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pauline Epistles" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Election in Romans 11:  The Salvation of the Hardened</title><content type="html">In the early verses of Romans 11, Paul makes a distinction between two groups within the historic people of Israel: the elect chosen by grace (5, 7) and the rest who were hardened (7). Quoting the Old Testament, Paul goes on to say of the hardened that, "God gave them a sluggish spirit, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear," and, "Let their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them; let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see, and keep their backs forever bent" (8-10). These verses are regularly troubling to Arminians. When taken out of context they seem to assert some manner of unconditional election and predetermined condemnation where God chooses some some for salvation and hardens others leaving them to their tragic fate. However, when read in context, such a system cannot be sustained. Perhaps surprisingly, Paul goes on to invite the question as to whether the falling of these hardened ones means that they have fallen ultimately, "have they stumbled so as to fall?" (11). His answer is an emphatic, "Absolutely not!" The Apostle to the Gentiles then explains God's ultimate purpose in his hardening a part of Israel. Their hardening was the means to the end of the inclusion of the Gentiles within the covenant people of God (11). Paul then begins to entertain the possibility of the re-inclusion of these hardened Israelites by saying, "Now if their stumbling means riches for the world, and if their defeat means riches for Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!" (12). Now it must be stressed that Paul is not here speaking of the elect. He distinguished between "elect" and "hardened" in v. 7. The hardened then became the subject of his discourse throughout vv. 8-12. &lt;em&gt;Thus,&lt;/em&gt; o&lt;em&gt;ur understanding of election must be articulated in light of Paul's eagerness to consider the salvation of the hardened non-elect.&lt;/em&gt; He goes beyond mere speculation as the chapter progresses. He goes on to speak of an olive tree with natural branches that were broken off and a wild olive shoot that was grafted in (17). The branches that were broken off must be the hardened non-elect Israelites of v. 7. They certainly cannot be the elect remnant because the remnant was kept by God not broken off (4-5). Paul helpfully explains why they were broken off - because of unbelief (20). Then, after warning the Gentiles that they might suffer a similar judgment if they do not persevere in faith (20-22), &lt;em&gt;Paul declares that those&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;hardened non-elect Israelites will be grafted in again on the condition that they do not persist in unbelief&lt;/em&gt; (23). Paul is asserting not only the possibility but the certainty that some of the hardened non-elect will ultimately be grafted into the new covenant people of God on the condition of belief in the God revealed in Jesus Christ. Whatever our understanding of election is, if it is to be biblical, then it must be able to take on board (1) the conditional nature of election and, therefore, (2) the possibility of salvation for the hardened non-elect. At the risk of anachronism, Paul would have made a great Arminian. Or, more appropriately put, classical Arminians make for good Paulinists.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-4216090097741303910?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/_sOgTHuC4M4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/4216090097741303910/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=4216090097741303910" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/4216090097741303910?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/4216090097741303910?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/_sOgTHuC4M4/election-in-romans-11-salvation-of.html" title="Election in Romans 11:  The Salvation of the Hardened" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2008/12/election-in-romans-11-salvation-of.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUYBQHk8eSp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-1522576484909398352</id><published>2008-08-01T10:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:52:31.771-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:52:31.771-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Arminians, Scripture, and the Perseverance of the Saints</title><content type="html">Arminians are sometimes characterized as believing that a true Christian can commit apostasy and fall irreparably away from grace and salvation. This, however, is not an accurate depiction of Arminian theology. There certainly are Arminians who hold the view that a true believer can commit real apostasy, but there are are also many who identify themselves as Arminians and believe that God will guard and keep all true Christians enabling them to persevere to the end. In the latter view, perseverance is a demonstration of authentic saving faith. Both views are consistent with other affirmations that all Arminians hold in common including total or radical depravity, conditional election, unlimited atonement, and resistible grace.&lt;br /&gt;
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It may help to know that the discussion over perseverance within Arminianism goes all the way back to the Reformation and can be seen in one of the earliest and foundational documents in the Arminian tradition. The &lt;a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Five_articles_of_Remonstrance"&gt;Five Articles of Remonstrance&lt;/a&gt;, written in 1610 by followers of James Arminius, outline the Arminian opposition to unconditional predestination. In describing the Arminian belief in the grace given power of the Christian to successfully strive against temptation, the &lt;a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Five_articles_of_Remonstrance#Article_5"&gt;fifth article&lt;/a&gt; states,&lt;br /&gt;
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"But whether [those who are incorporated into Christ by true faith] are capable, through negligence, of forsaking again the first beginning of their life in Christ, of again returning to this present evil world, of turning away from the holy doctrine which was delivered to them, of losing a good conscience, of becoming devoid of grace, &lt;em&gt;that must be more particularly determined out of the Holy Scripture, before we ourselves can teach it with the full persuasion of our mind&lt;/em&gt;" (emphasis mine).&lt;br /&gt;
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This statement is important for two reasons. First, it demonstrates the Arminian commitment to biblically grounded doctrine. To depart from biblical authority is to depart from authentic Arminianism. Second, it demonstrates that Arminians have historically acknowledged the tension in Scripture over the issue of perseverance and have made room in their ranks for both positions. The Remonstrants were not primarily interested in opposing the budding Calvinism of the Reformation. They were first and foremost interested in rightly understanding and faithfully teaching Christian Scripture. This commitment to the Bible yielded a tension within the Arminian tradition which reflects a tension in Scripture, and, thus, there is room within Arminiasm for those who believe in the final perseverance of the saints and those who believe in the possibility that a true believer may commit real apostasy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Critics of Arminianism should take note of this distinction in their characterizations of Arminian theology. Fairness in debate requires good will and a faithful attempt to properly portray the position of those who disagree. Describing Arminian theology narrowly as believing that one can fall from grace is a misrepresentation of the Arminian tradition.&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect that there are some (perhaps many) who resist the Arminian label because they believe in the final perseverance of the saints and have heard Arminianism defined narrowly as including a belief in real apostasy. It is important for Arminians to be clear that there is room in our camp for both positions. On occasion, I will hear someone referred to as a "two point Calvinist" indicating that they believe in total depravity and perseverance of the saints. In response, it is important to note that a two point Calvinist isn't much of one. In fact, a two point Calvinist makes for a fine Arminian.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-1522576484909398352?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/tzGyOwtk-ek" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/1522576484909398352/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=1522576484909398352" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/1522576484909398352?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/1522576484909398352?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/tzGyOwtk-ek/arminians-scripture-and-perseverance-of.html" title="Arminians, Scripture, and the Perseverance of the Saints" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2008/08/arminians-scripture-and-perseverance-of.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUYDRXg5fCp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-7358070088238944695</id><published>2008-07-30T20:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:52:54.624-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:52:54.624-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Election in 1 Thessalonians</title><content type="html">In the opening verses of 1 Thessalonians, Paul declares his knowledge of God's divine choosing of the Christians in Thessalonica, "For we know, brothers and sisters beloved of God, that he has chosen you, because our message of the gospel came to you not in word only, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction" (4-5). Paul's statement of God's election of the Thessalonian Christians is clear. He does not say that he merely thinks or suspects that God has chosen the Thessalonians. No, Paul and co-authors declare their knowledge of God's choosing of the Thessalonians. They point to the power of God displayed in the preaching of the gospel which resulted in conviction of sin.&lt;br /&gt;
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This bold statement of God's electing purposes is particularly interesting in light of what Paul says in chapter 3. Having heard that his Thessalonian converts were experiencing some sort of tribulation or persecution, Paul says that, "For this reason, when I could bear it no longer, I sent to find out about your faith; I was afraid that somehow the tempter had tempted you and that our labor had been in vain" (5). Paul here expresses his fear that the Thessalonians had succumbed to temptation and forsaken the faith which would have made his evangelistic work among them empty. If they did not stay the course, his would would have been in vain. Paul conveys a deep sense of worry and concern over the state of Thessalonians' faith.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is so striking because it doesn't seem to fit with what Paul says about the Thessalonians in 1:5. If Paul is so confident that God has chosen the Thessalonians, why is he so fearful that they may forsake the faith? These texts demonstrate that we cannot simply conclude that God's electing of the Thessalonians ensures their final perseverance. Whatever Paul means when he speaks of God's choosing (&lt;em&gt;ekloge&lt;/em&gt;), he cannot possibly think of it as unconditional. If Paul really thought that the Thessalonians had been chosen unconditionally, then he would have no reason to be concerned about their faithlessness. Rather, we must conclude that Paul understood God's choosing of the Thessalonians to be conditional upon their continued perseverance in faith. In Paul's mind, one can be chosen by God and still potentially fall away.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-7358070088238944695?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/vW1kIk7Wxu0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/7358070088238944695/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=7358070088238944695" title="6 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/7358070088238944695?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/7358070088238944695?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/vW1kIk7Wxu0/election-in-1-thessalonians.html" title="Election in 1 Thessalonians" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>6</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2008/07/election-in-1-thessalonians.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUUEQHY4cSp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-8592756170074567859</id><published>2008-07-10T07:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:53:21.839-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:53:21.839-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Prevenient Grace in the Early Church?</title><content type="html">Prevenient grace is that grace which God gives a person prior to their conversion. Prevenient simply means "preceding." Prevenient grace is a key distinctive of classical Wesleyan-Arminian theology. Opponents of this doctrine charge that it is unbiblical because the term or idea of prevenient grace does not appear in scripture. I grant that the term does not appear in scripture, but this doesn't mean that it is unbiblical. "Trinity" doesn't appear in scripture either, but it is a distinct and unique test of historic Christian orthodoxy. I do not grant that the concept or idea of prevenient grace is absent from scripture. It appears in John 6:44 where Jesus says, "No one can come to me unless drawn by the Father who sent me." The concept of preceding grace appears also in Acts 2. Peter had just preached his Pentecost sermon when Luke tells us that, "when they heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, 'Brothers, what should we do?'" (37). To say that they "were cut to the heart" is to say they came under divine conviction for their sins against Jesus in handing him over to the Romans. This is clearly prior to their conversion because Peter answers their question saying, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven; and you will receive the Holy Spirit" (2:38). They had not yet received the Holy Spirit so they had not yet been born again, but they had come under conviction and were being drawn to seek reconciliation with God. This is clearly grace which precedes conversion. Thus, Roger Olson can say that prevenient grace, "is the powerful but resistible drawing of God," which may not be a biblical term, "but it is a biblical concept assumed everywhere in scripture" (&lt;em&gt;Arminian Theology&lt;/em&gt;, IVP, 2006, p. 159).&lt;br /&gt;
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The concept of prevenient or preceding grace may also appear in some early non-canonical Christian literature. The &lt;em&gt;Didache&lt;/em&gt; (or "&lt;em&gt;Teaching&lt;/em&gt;") is a document from the first or second century which provides insight into a variety of early Christian ideas and practices. It isn't scripture, of course; however, it is quite telling as to the belief and praxis of the early church. In giving instruction regarding fairness towards household slaves, the author says, "for he comes not to call men with respect of persons, but those whom the Spirit has prepared" (5:10). We must be careful not to read too much into this brief statement. But it does seem to affirm a belief that God's Spirit goes to work to prepare people for conversion prior to their hearing the call of God. The objection might be raised that this "call" is something subsequent to conversion because the slaves are said to, "hope in the same God" (5:10). This objection is not necessarily the proper reading though. The statement regarding God's call is substantiating the earlier statement that God is over both master and slave (5:10). Thus, the exhortation to fairness may be grounded in the principle that God calls and saves both free and slave with no thought of their social status. If so, then the calling is subsequent to the preparing work of the Spirit. We may have here an early non-canonical witness to the concept of prevenient or preceding grace.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-8592756170074567859?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/Hq4nbjFBw6k" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/8592756170074567859/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=8592756170074567859" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/8592756170074567859?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/8592756170074567859?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/Hq4nbjFBw6k/prevenient-grace-in-early-church.html" title="Prevenient Grace in the Early Church?" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2008/07/prevenient-grace-in-early-church.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUUGQXw_eCp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-1551005145486149090</id><published>2008-05-26T10:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:53:40.240-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:53:40.240-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>Purpose or Choice and Whose Is It?  Another Look at Romans 8:28</title><content type="html">"We know that all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to &lt;em&gt;his&lt;/em&gt; purpose." Romans 8:28 (NRSV, italics mine)&lt;br /&gt;
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This familiar verse has an interesting and largely neglected history of interpretation. A couple of points are worth noting. First, the Greek word translated as "purpose" is &lt;em&gt;prothesis&lt;/em&gt;. Interestingly, it can also be taken to mean "choice." Second, the possessive pronoun which I have italicized and which, to my knowledge, shows up in all English translations, is not in the Greek text. Paul did not explicitly state that the &lt;em&gt;prothesis&lt;/em&gt;, whether it means purpose or choice, is something here belonging to God. So, this verse could be legitimately translated, "Now we know that to those who love God, all things work together for good, to those being called according to choice."&lt;br /&gt;
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Fourth century preacher, theologian, and Archbishop of Constantinople John Chrysostom took this verse to be referring to the &lt;em&gt;prothesis&lt;/em&gt; of those who love God, namely human beings who respond to God's call. In his homily on Rom 8:28 he said,&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: 85%;"&gt;The &lt;em&gt;prothesis &lt;/em&gt;he here mentions, however, that he might not ascribe everything to the calling; since in this way both Greeks and Jews would be sure to cavil. For if the calling alone were sufficient, how came it that all were not saved? Hence he says, that it is not the calling alone, but the &lt;em&gt;prothesis &lt;/em&gt;of those called too, that works the salvation. For the calling was not forced upon them, nor compulsory. All then were called, but all did not obey the call (&lt;em&gt;NPNF&lt;/em&gt;, 1st series, 11:453)&lt;em&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I have maintained the original Greek &lt;em&gt;prothesis &lt;/em&gt;in this quote because the translator did not agree with Chrysostom's reading that the purpose/choice is that of the called rather than that of the caller. That Chrysostom saw the &lt;em&gt;prothesis&lt;/em&gt; as being on the part of the called may indicate that he took it to mean "choice." The point here is simply that Paul's language is unclear as to whether the purpose/choice in question is that of God or that of those whom God calls. Chrysostom takes it as the human response enabled by God's initial call. This is a clear and ancient denial of the Calvinist idea of an effectual call. This is important because it demonstrates that the Arminian affirmation of resistible grace is not innovative. Rather, it recaptures a strain of thought present in the ancient church and held by none less than an Archbishop of Constantinople and one of the most influential and respected of the early Greek fathers.&lt;br /&gt;
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**I am thankful to Dr. Ben Witherington of Asbury Theological Seminary for first drawing my attention to Chrysostom's reading of this verse.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-1551005145486149090?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/sZOMDirOh5Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/1551005145486149090/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=1551005145486149090" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/1551005145486149090?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/1551005145486149090?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/sZOMDirOh5Q/purpose-or-choice-another-look-at.html" title="Purpose or Choice and Whose Is It?  Another Look at Romans 8:28" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2008/05/purpose-or-choice-another-look-at.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUUARXozfCp7ImA9WxFbGUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6159409969715131709.post-5450757569460275545</id><published>2008-04-24T07:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T20:54:04.484-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-07-12T20:54:04.484-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Arminian Theology" /><title>2 Peter on Atonement and Perseverance</title><content type="html">I'm presently reading 2 Peter and have come across a couple of points worth noting regarding the nature of the atonement and the possibility of committing apostasy. Arminians affirm the unlimited scope of Christ's atoning work while Calvinists have traditionally affrimed a limited atonement (some are now moving away from this position). Arminians have been mixed over whether or not a true believer can forever fall from grace while Calvinists have always held that those who truly belong to our Lord will not ultimately fall away.&lt;br /&gt;
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First, in 2:1 Peter launches into a powerful polemic against false teachers. He says of them that they bring in destructive heresy even "denying the master, the one having bought them." This verse could be taken in one of two ways. It might be taken to mean that these persons have never been followers of Christ and continue presently to deny him. If this is the case, then Peter clearly does not hold to a limited atonement. For he says that Jesus has &lt;em&gt;bought&lt;/em&gt; these false teachers. On the other hand, it could be describing people who formerly were followers of Christ but have committed apostasy and now deny him. I prefer this reading because it seems that the affirmation of Christ having bought them points to their having experienced a state of grace and right standing. If this is the case, then Peter seems to be affirming the reality that someone might lose their justified status and undermines the idea that all true believers will finally persevere. This reading also carries the implication of an unlimited atonement in that these who have denied Christ and committed apostasy were not beyond the reach of Christ's atoning work having previously been bought by him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, in 2 Peter 3:17 the author exhorts his hearers to be on guard, "in order that you may not, having been led astray by the error of the lawless, fall from your firm position." The NIV renders it, "fall from your secure position." Peter clearly sees the audience as presently secure in their standing with God. They are stable. However, they are not beyond the danger of falling. Whatever sort of security they have, it is not the sort that cannot be lost. For Peter, this has been clearly demonstrated by the false teachers who deny the master who bought them. To say that Peter really means that those who fall away were never truly secure in the first place is to ignore the plain meaning of this text. It is nonsense to speak of those who are not really Christians as secure. Peter believes that those who truly belong to Lord must be on guard and persevere, lest they ultimately fall away.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6159409969715131709-5450757569460275545?l=evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~4/jhHTJ-oFBeM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/feeds/5450757569460275545/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6159409969715131709&amp;postID=5450757569460275545" title="8 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/5450757569460275545?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6159409969715131709/posts/default/5450757569460275545?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EvangelicalArminian/~3/jhHTJ-oFBeM/2-peter-on-atonement-and-perseverance.html" title="2 Peter on Atonement and Perseverance" /><author><name>Matt O'Reilly</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="24" height="32" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SenGWg4CZoI/TXo9Vs6YqFI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/dvHZKM9nI_k/s220/Matt%2BOReilly%2BPhoto%2B%255B1%255D.jpg" /></author><thr:total>8</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://evangelicalarminian.blogspot.com/2008/04/2-peter-on-atonement-and-perseverance.html</feedburner:origLink></entry></feed>

