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Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-20T05:02:50-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 17/05/2013 10:43, Michael Gorman wrote about the "Structured Data Markup Helper": at http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&topic=3070267&answer=3070230 <snip>It all depends what you mean by 'cataloging.' Michael</snip> Since this is RadCat, I guess this can be asked: what exactly is the purpose of cataloging today? Also, what will be the

The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-17T06:40:42-07:00

To various lists I thought I would share this extremely interesting tool created by Google for cataloging materials that are online, the "Structured Data Markup Helper" at http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&topic=3070267&answer=3070230 This tool allows the webmaster of a page to add structured data to a page on their site. You put in the URL of the page

Re: [RDA-L] "Authorized Version" (6.23.2.9.2)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-17T01:21:49-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 16/05/2013 14:21, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: <snip>RDA 6.23.2.9.2 says: "For books of the Catholic or Protestant canon, record the brief citation form of the Authorized Version as a subdivision of the preferred title for the Bible." Is my interpretation correct that "Authorized Version" here is not meant in a general sense of "some standard version", but rather

Re: [ACAT] Subject headings was: "ISBD Punctuation Omitted"?

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-17T01:20:25-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 16/05/2013 09:19, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: <snip>So, it might be difficult to include persons in a geographic facet based on 043 codes. Perhaps VIAF could be used to derive area codes for persons from the country codes in German authority records. </snip> The most detailed discussion of 043 assignment that I know of is in the LC Cataloging Service

Re: [ACAT] Final punctuation

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-15T02:21:18-07:00

Posting to Autocat I think we have to ask ourselves what is the purpose of cataloging punctuation today? It makes no difference with searching; OPACS make a hash of alphabetical/filing order so forget that. When people use our catalogs, they do not understand our punctuation and don't need to know. Nobody asks: "What is the meaning of the space-semicolon-space here"? (

Re: [RDA-L] Recording alternate content and physical forms -- Bibframe

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-15T02:18:49-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 14/05/2013 15:03, Mitchell, Michael wrote: <snip> The difference I see is that to my mind "record" implies a database entry with fields and subfields. BibFrame will not entail database records, fields, or subfields. It will be much closer to an XML file which is quite different structurally and semantically from a database record although I realize crosswalks are

Re: [RDA-L] Recording alternate content and physical forms -- Bibframe

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-14T01:19:40-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 13/05/2013 20:48, Mitchell, Michael wrote: <snip>... as I understand Bibframe there will no longer be "records. There will be data points and triplets instead. This will be a critical difference and as Deborah says about RDA thinking will be even more true about Bibframe. This frame shift from records to relational data points (I know, I still don't have the

Re: [RDA-L] 336, 337, 338 and the post-MARC environment

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-10T00:58:37-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 10/05/2013 00:21, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: <snip>Festshrift codes, no. I didn't mean ALL of the data, indeed. Format/genre/medium/carrier info? Such as in leader bytes 6-7, field 007, and now the 336/337/338? Absolutely. I am not saying that ALL the info in the MARC record is equally useful. I was, however, responding to the claim that any info is _obviously_

Re: [RDA-L] 336, 337, 338 and the post-MARC environment

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-10T00:54:45-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 09/05/2013 23:11, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: <snip>My software, and by extension, my users using my software, use the MARC leader, 007, 008, 040, and other fixed/coded fields, every day. It is not data that nobody uses or can use. But that's your opinion, that it has been a mistake to have fixed fields and coded fields in MARC from the beginning? That all values in

Re: [RDA-L] 336, 337, 338 and the post-MARC environment

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-10T00:53:01-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 09/05/2013 22:17, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: <snip>On 5/9/2013 3:56 PM, Gene Fieg wrote: And how are these field going to be displayed in an easily understandable manner to the patron. Will we need a priest of RDA near the shoulder of every patron as she/he searches for that DVD she knows is in the library somewhere, because the AACR2 catalog told her so? Does this

Re: [ACAT] "ISBD Punctuation Omitted"?

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-08T01:16:00-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 07/05/2013 19:05, Marc Truitt wrote: <snip>On 05/07/2013 01:35 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote: ISBD punctuation is displayed. Subfield codes are not. The punctuation assists in recognition if data,. e.g., where statement of responsibility begins in a script one does not read. MARC subfield codes help with manipulation of data. Unless/until all ILS can insert punctuation

Re: [ACAT] "ISBD Punctuation Omitted"?

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-07T08:25:05-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 07/05/2013 14:55, Mitchell, Michael wrote: <snip>No matter. Our ILS systems built upon Bibframe will no doubt automatically take care of all this and much more. Since Bibframe must be well on its way to fruition or they wouldn't have initiated the use of RDA, we'll be in good shape here soon. From the discussion over on Bibframe, not only will we not have to worry

The Power and Relevance of Libraries

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-07T03:08:03-07:00

From Pew Internet Research. The Power and Relevance of Libraries from Pew Research Center's Internet & American Life Project

Re: [ACAT] "ISBD Punctuation Omitted"?

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-07T03:05:34-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 06/05/2013 20:08, Tennant,Roy wrote: <snip>On 5/6/13 5/6/13 € 11:00 AM, "Aaron Kuperman" wrote: P.S. Have you ever tried explaining ISBD punctuation to someone who had never seen a catalog card? Similarly, have you ever tried to explain ISBD punctuation to a software programmer?</snip> Of course, this can be turned around: what is it like for a software

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" (RDA-L(#2013-110)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-06T08:49:52-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 06/05/2013 15:27, Nancy Braman wrote: <snip>Quoting "J. McRee Elrod": The complexity of the bibliographic world does not fit neatly into a finite predetermined set of [relator--JW] terms. True; and it seems to be getting more complex all the time. </snip> Yes. There is another aspect to this as I discovered when I searched for "as told to" in the catalog for

Re: [ACAT] Complications in applying subdivisions (Re: Land or country as divinely given to Israel (in this case))

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-06T08:47:16-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 01/05/2013 16:11, Brian Briscoe wrote: <snip>Although I agree that our catalogs need much improvement, I think that Mr. Weinheimer's anecdote about file usage shows not that the catalog is broken, or that authorities are broken, but that humans are fickle. I use google a lot. I'm a pretty good Google searcher but certainly not expert. Put me in a classroom of

Re: [ACAT] Complications in applying subdivisions (Re: Land or country as divinely given to Israel (in this case))

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-01T07:13:15-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 01/05/2013 07:40, Hal Cain wrote: <snip>Indeed. And I have to say that my own observation is that a lot of LC cataloguers who aren't religion specialists are no better than other cataloguers at applying them. Which brings to mind my own occasional complaint, that if cataloguing rules and practices are too complicated to be applied consistently, they need to be

Re: [ACAT] LC Subject Headings as applied or omitted (was Amelia Koford's Research on ... )

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-04-30T03:02:06-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 30/04/2013 03:14, Daniel CannCasciato wrote: <snip>I recently upgraded a record for a gov pub regarding diabetes and nutrition. The kicker? It's from the Indian Health Service and written for American Indians and had no subject access for Indians of North America or nutrition. Upon further review, a whole bunch of publications fitting these characteristics lacked

Re: [ACAT] Amelia Koford's Research on LC Subject Headings Which She Reported on at ACRL

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-04-27T15:09:30-07:00

On 27/04/2013 00:01, Amelia Koford wrote: <snip> Thanks for sharing this. I found the thesis online: http://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/bitstream/handle/2152/ETD-UT-2012-05-5699/KOFORD-THESIS.pdf I'm the author of this thesis and the ACRL poster Frank Newton referred to - it's great to hear everyone's perspectives! I'm not a regular on this list and not a cataloger, so it's been really

Re: [ACAT] Library of Congress Subject Headings (Controlled Vocabulary Prototype)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-04-27T15:06:18-07:00

On 26/04/2013 16:05, David Iversen wrote: <snip>James Weinheimer wrote, in part: "...if a prototype existed that presented our controlled vocabulary in a way that was understandable to the public and was easy for them to use," I thought we had, and still have, such a prototype, in the form of the Big Red books, also known as Library of Congress Subject Headings (LCSH), which present

Digital wealth: comparing national digital libraries

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-04-26T08:55:44-07:00

Digital wealth: comparing national digital libraries An indepth review of the Digital Public Library of America by a Dutch scholar.

Re: [ACAT] Amelia Koford's Research on LC Subject Headings Which She Reported on at ACRL

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-04-26T05:56:08-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 25/04/2013 23:51, Frank Newton wrote: <snip>I have been trying to defend LC subject headings for some time now, to other catalogers and to reference librarians, as a topic which deserves to be included in advanced library instruction (see the references to some of my E-mails on this subject, below below my name). Imagine my surprise when I found a kindred

Re: [ACAT] Seeing the Catalog through the Eyes of the Public (Was: RDA and the Plague)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-04-26T03:00:26-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 25/04/2013 19:30, MULLEN Allen wrote: <snip> Ann Williams writes: The bottom line is most of our users today are not interested in/capable of constructing precise searches using controlled vocabulary and an understanding of fields. They may not even be using the same database from class to class so investing time in learning the bells and whistles, when vendors,

Re: [ACAT] Seeing the Catalog through the Eyes of the Public (Was: RDA and the Plague)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-04-25T06:08:41-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 24/04/2013 20:18, MULLEN Allen wrote: <snip> ... Personally, these are sad realities for I think it truly presages the eclipse of much of the cataloging world we have known in the foreseeable future. It also likely spells the end of my own career in cataloging before I am ready to retire. Budgets, not RDA implementation, are the paramount issue that many of us

Seeing the Catalog through the Eyes of the Public (Was: RDA and the Plague)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-04-24T10:35:58-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 24/04/2013 14:49, Cherie Hill wrote: <snip>Yes James. And in keeping with the RDA and the plague theme ... I really don't like the RDA Media Type term "unmediated." When a student or patron sees this term in the online catalog, will they really understand what that term means? To me it sounds like a "librarian" kind of term that no one will be able to comprehend. <