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Re: [RDA-L] 264 dates

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-19T03:47:51-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 19/06/2013 01:45, Robert Maxwell wrote: <snip>Mac, you have brought this issue up often enough, but what do you do about other parts of the record that are geared toward a particular language community? Notes in 5XX fields are going to be in English in English-language records, for example, and for good reason. We use English terms in the extent element. There are

Re: analog vs digital collections and cataloging

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-12T01:10:44-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 11/06/2013 16:38, Anderson, William wrote: <snip>It would seem the first logical step would be “what is the job”, the tools will emerge from that. It occurs to me that we do need something like FRBR user tasks, if not “the” FRBR user tasks. Does the word “tasks” start one step to far along the process than what is needed. As James stated below, returning to

Google Books and Google Play

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-11T00:55:12-07:00

I just discovered something new (for me at least) about Google Books. I looked at an older posting of mine on my blog and found this link to the Royal Commission report on the management of the British Museum (where Panizzi's catalog is discussed), and the link was: http://books.google.com/ebooks?id=ajFDAAAAcAAJ which used to go into the normal Google Books interface but

Re: analog vs digital collections and cataloging

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-11T00:05:14-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 10/06/2013 16:13, Anderson, William wrote: <snip>As a thought experiment what would such a distributed exercise look like, and what would the economics look like behind it. We do have the model of the public commons, combination social meeting space, business technology center, event venue, and (?) roving information consultants it sounds like. Likewise we have

Re: [ACAT] NSA leak source and Metadata (Was: NSA leak source)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-11T00:01:21-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 10/06/2013 16:54, McDonald, Stephen wrote: <snip>By using metadata the same way that library users do. You run a search on the metadata set to FIND communications that meet certain criteria (such as frequent communications with someone suspected of supporting terrorism). You examine the results of the search to IDENTIFY suspicious connections. You SELECT one or

NSA leak source and Metadata (Was: NSA leak source)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-10T05:15:26-07:00

Posting to Autocat Connected with this leak is a more general discussion of "metadata" and some of the frightening implications it has. While the government says that it does not get the "content" of the information, they do get the "metadata". (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/07/18824941-obama-nobody-is-listening-to-your-telephone-calls?lite) We can see this

Re: analog vs digital collections and cataloging

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-10T05:10:01-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 10/06/2013 00:06, Julie Moore wrote: <snip> But getting back to our core values of librarianship, what does a library without books, without a reference desk, and without technical services make? I can tell you that our most popular service point is Star Bucks! And perhaps that is the future of academic libraries ... to basically become a student center. </snip> It has

Re: analog vs digital collections and cataloging

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-09T13:14:46-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 09/06/2013 04:18, Julie Moore wrote: <snip>The advent of the Internet has certainly changed things in cataloging, as we now watch these tens of thousands of MARC vendor records flow in and out of our catalogs via batch loads. They say that our patrons prefer to find ALL content using keyword searching (bringing up tens of thousands of hits) on their computers (or

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-06-02T13:15:15-07:00

Posting to RadCat I guess I am not so enamored of the long past halcyon days. While I love libraries, and always will, before library school I didn't know how to use a catalog at all--even though if someone had asked, I thought I knew all about them. From the beginnings, people have come to libraries to use the materials in the library, not to use the catalogs, and

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-31T06:07:55-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 31/05/2013 11:11, Michael Gorman wrote: <snip>"Our users are on the Internet and use Google or Google-like discovery tools. They find the content they need ...." Oh really? As I wrote before, it's an age of lowered expectations. Those expectations driven by vast, amoral, global businesses with a 100% interest in money and 0% interest in learning on the onward

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-31T01:45:39-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 30/05/2013 18:09, Michael Gorman wrote: <snip>Now we have a new class of cataloguer--self-hating cataloguers. Why is the idea of preserving cataloguing standards 'navel gazing'? Why are we, for the first time in human history, assuming that one means of communication will supplant all the previous means? I know, I know ... I'm a Luddite, mossback, &c, and all

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-31T01:39:15-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 30/05/2013 15:28, Flynn, Emily wrote: <snip> As far as RDA, BIBFRAME, and FRBR are concerned, it makes sense that the library community and especially catalogers (soon to be metadata librarians if the trend continues), still want a specialized system and standards of their own since it is specialized work. Folksonomies and social tagging just haven't caught on in

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-30T06:49:48-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 29/05/2013 15:35, Flynn, Emily wrote: <snip>The way I see it, librarianship and libraries are constantly changing and adjusting to stay relevant. For librarianship, that means more "I(nformation) Schools" and adding more computer science and technology to the curriculum. UMich increased a lot of my tech skills, including database management, HTML, etc. Many of the

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-29T07:35:46-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 28/05/2013 22:08, Frances, Melodie wrote: <snip>James – sorry to keep being devil’s advocate, but the other point I would like to make re ‘libraries must change,’ is that libraries ARE changing. And to each library it’s ability, they ARE going along with digital stuff. Libraries as a whole aren’t big enough [don’t generate enough $] to be paid super attention to by

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-26T06:51:19-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 24/05/2013 20:46, Frances, Melodie wrote: <snip> I say this with only a little bit of snark, but I’m going to guess you’ve never really been poor [student poor doesn’t count]. And not lower class or working class, but poor. A quick and dirty search suggests that 16 % + of Americans live in poverty, and when you are worried about food, 100-200 bucks is a LOT of

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-26T02:42:09-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 25/05/2013 11:56, Julie Moore wrote: <snip>Looking at this from an international point-of-view ... I was quite surprised when I was in Japan in 2010 by how few just regular Japanese households had PCs. I don't know what the numbers are, but I know they are significantly less than in the U.S. A friend of mine who lives there noted that a lot of people deal with computers

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-25T12:21:14-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 24/05/2013 15:27, Anderson, William wrote: <snip> Other issues: there are still a lot of folks who don't even own computers - check out the lines at your local public library. Yes, Connecticut is probably a particularly stark example of this. Reputation with some justification of being a rather affluent state, but with a rather large low income population. This

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-25T12:18:19-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 21/05/2013 16:01, Christine Schwartz wrote: <snip>Depending on the type of library--I like Melodie work in at a large theological research library--the "more and more information on the web" is a pipe dream because of US copyright law. Our library users--PhD students and researchers in particular--remain heavy users of monographic, print materials. I don't see that

The Library at Hadrian's Villa

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-21T14:11:22-07:00

For those who may be interested, I took a trip to Hadrian's Villa recently, took some pictures and put them on my Picasa Album. The Maritime Theater and the Canopus are simply stunning. Some of the most beautiful works of art from classical times were found there. Hadrian's Villa included a library and I took a few pictures. At the Museum of Roman Civilization (Museo della Civiltà Romana

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-21T07:02:34-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 20/05/2013 23:39, Frances, Melodie wrote: <snip>BUT, you are assuming that most catalogers are spending their time copy cataloging. Personally, I probably only spend at most a few hours a month doing that. It seems to me that professional catalogers should be spending their time on unique items that for whatever reason are NOT on the web (since that makes them

Re: The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-20T05:02:50-07:00

Posting to RadCat On 17/05/2013 10:43, Michael Gorman wrote about the "Structured Data Markup Helper": at http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&topic=3070267&answer=3070230 <snip>It all depends what you mean by 'cataloging.' Michael</snip> Since this is RadCat, I guess this can be asked: what exactly is the purpose of cataloging today? Also, what will be the

The Process of Cataloging in the Future

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-17T06:40:42-07:00

To various lists I thought I would share this extremely interesting tool created by Google for cataloging materials that are online, the "Structured Data Markup Helper" at http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&topic=3070267&answer=3070230 This tool allows the webmaster of a page to add structured data to a page on their site. You put in the URL of the page

Re: [RDA-L] "Authorized Version" (6.23.2.9.2)

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-17T01:21:49-07:00

Posting to RDA-L On 16/05/2013 14:21, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: <snip>RDA 6.23.2.9.2 says: "For books of the Catholic or Protestant canon, record the brief citation form of the Authorized Version as a subdivision of the preferred title for the Bible." Is my interpretation correct that "Authorized Version" here is not meant in a general sense of "some standard version", but rather

Re: [ACAT] Subject headings was: "ISBD Punctuation Omitted"?

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-17T01:20:25-07:00

Posting to Autocat On 16/05/2013 09:19, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: <snip>So, it might be difficult to include persons in a geographic facet based on 043 codes. Perhaps VIAF could be used to derive area codes for persons from the country codes in German authority records. </snip> The most detailed discussion of 043 assignment that I know of is in the LC Cataloging Service

Re: [ACAT] Final punctuation

noreply@blogger.com (James Weinheimer) — 2013-05-15T02:21:18-07:00

Posting to Autocat I think we have to ask ourselves what is the purpose of cataloging punctuation today? It makes no difference with searching; OPACS make a hash of alphabetical/filing order so forget that. When people use our catalogs, they do not understand our punctuation and don't need to know. Nobody asks: "What is the meaning of the space-semicolon-space here"? (