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		<title>Comment on 20 Visualizations to Understand Crime by A lire ailleurs du 22 juin au 9 juillet | traffic-internet.net</title>
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		<description>[...] . 20 visualisations pour comprendre le crime L’excellent Flowing Data recense une série de cartographies et de représentations de la criminalité… [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Costs Vary Widely By Region by jeffrey weir</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffrey weir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty - I'm not quite sure I understand your comment about "The color difference at 7000/7500 is similar to the difference at 9000/16000". Do you mean the color difference between the $7k/$7.5k range and the next range up/down; vs the color difference between the $8k/$9k range and the $9k to $16k range?

Quoting  from Stephen Few's latest book "Now you see it": "Color is good at drawing your attention to something if used sparingly, but is one of the ‘pre-attentive attributes’ that is not quantitatively perceived in and of themselves".  

Whereas lines and 2D precision are very precise ways to encode quantitative values.  But in a chart map such as this, we have to rely on the legend to make fine quantitative comparisons, and on the colors to draw general trends to our attention, and to help us work out more detail info if required from the legend.  I think you’re right in that color could be used better to this end, although I don’t think it’s an overly bad use of color either.

The problem for me with this graph is that the different price bands that the colors indicate seem pretty arbitrary. The first range covers a spread of $1690, the 2nd and 3rd ranges cover a spread of $500, the forth covers  a spread of $1000, and the fifth covers  a spread of $7351. To me this breaks the rules of good statistical presentation and analysis. 

For instance, we don’t know what the average value is within each range. For instance, take the large spread of $9k to $16k -  for all we know, the average within this range could be $9.1k (with the $16k reading being an outlier), and for all we know, the average within the next range down could be $8.9k. 

This means any abrupt color change based on the absolute size of the spreads would be highly misleading. There could be a significant color difference, yet an insignificant difference in healthcare costs. 

So this graph really should use a quantitative scale with equal increments, and colors with enough variation so as to highlight any important differences, without overwhelming them.

 Edward Tufte points out in his excellent book “The Visual Display of Quantitative Information” that such maps as these are great tools and repay careful study, but that they have their flaws...”They wrongly equate the visual importance of each county with its geographic area rather than the number of people living in the county”.  This is important if we want to take into consideration things like for instance the economies of scale from providing healthcare to densely populated regions vs urban regions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty &#8211; I&#8217;m not quite sure I understand your comment about &#8220;The color difference at 7000/7500 is similar to the difference at 9000/16000&#8243;. Do you mean the color difference between the $7k/$7.5k range and the next range up/down; vs the color difference between the $8k/$9k range and the $9k to $16k range?</p>
<p>Quoting  from Stephen Few&#8217;s latest book &#8220;Now you see it&#8221;: &#8220;Color is good at drawing your attention to something if used sparingly, but is one of the ‘pre-attentive attributes’ that is not quantitatively perceived in and of themselves&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Whereas lines and 2D precision are very precise ways to encode quantitative values.  But in a chart map such as this, we have to rely on the legend to make fine quantitative comparisons, and on the colors to draw general trends to our attention, and to help us work out more detail info if required from the legend.  I think you’re right in that color could be used better to this end, although I don’t think it’s an overly bad use of color either.</p>
<p>The problem for me with this graph is that the different price bands that the colors indicate seem pretty arbitrary. The first range covers a spread of $1690, the 2nd and 3rd ranges cover a spread of $500, the forth covers  a spread of $1000, and the fifth covers  a spread of $7351. To me this breaks the rules of good statistical presentation and analysis. </p>
<p>For instance, we don’t know what the average value is within each range. For instance, take the large spread of $9k to $16k &#8211;  for all we know, the average within this range could be $9.1k (with the $16k reading being an outlier), and for all we know, the average within the next range down could be $8.9k. </p>
<p>This means any abrupt color change based on the absolute size of the spreads would be highly misleading. There could be a significant color difference, yet an insignificant difference in healthcare costs. </p>
<p>So this graph really should use a quantitative scale with equal increments, and colors with enough variation so as to highlight any important differences, without overwhelming them.</p>
<p> Edward Tufte points out in his excellent book “The Visual Display of Quantitative Information” that such maps as these are great tools and repay careful study, but that they have their flaws&#8230;”They wrongly equate the visual importance of each county with its geographic area rather than the number of people living in the county”.  This is important if we want to take into consideration things like for instance the economies of scale from providing healthcare to densely populated regions vs urban regions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Colored Tree, Cookies, and Stairs in Visualization Ad by jeffrey weir</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it's great way to get across a message.  No, it's not a great way to present data in the case where a reader needs to make an accurate comparison between two variables...unless you give them two things very easy to compare. But then, that's what a bar or line graph is for.

Or Quoting from Stephen Few's excellent new book "Now you see it", color is good at drawing your attention to something if used sparingly, but is one of the ‘pre-attentive attributes’ that is not quantitatively percieved in and of themselves (quoting Few here again), and if overused tends to lose it’s ‘pre-attentive attribute’. Whereas lines and 2D precision are very precise ways to encode quantitative values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s great way to get across a message.  No, it&#8217;s not a great way to present data in the case where a reader needs to make an accurate comparison between two variables&#8230;unless you give them two things very easy to compare. But then, that&#8217;s what a bar or line graph is for.</p>
<p>Or Quoting from Stephen Few&#8217;s excellent new book &#8220;Now you see it&#8221;, color is good at drawing your attention to something if used sparingly, but is one of the ‘pre-attentive attributes’ that is not quantitatively percieved in and of themselves (quoting Few here again), and if overused tends to lose it’s ‘pre-attentive attribute’. Whereas lines and 2D precision are very precise ways to encode quantitative values.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Costs Vary Widely By Region by Bruce P. Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce P. Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is even more important to get the title right.  This is MEDICARE spending per beneficiary, which while it may be correlated, it is not health care costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is even more important to get the title right.  This is MEDICARE spending per beneficiary, which while it may be correlated, it is not health care costs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Costs Vary Widely By Region by Preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also like the way the highlighted region pops up with a drop shadow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also like the way the highlighted region pops up with a drop shadow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Costs Vary Widely By Region by Preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the gray stripe/panel behind the map highlighting the legend is pretty slick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the gray stripe/panel behind the map highlighting the legend is pretty slick.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Costs Vary Widely By Region by floormaster squeeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>floormaster squeeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Marty's comment and I assume that is what is meant by Nathan in the original. 

I use MapInfo and use the color gradient all the time.  I choose the color's myself and would try to get the nominal differences in the data fairly regular and then apply the standard color steps to them.

Anyway, this chart is Robert Wood Johnson foundation chart using Dartmouth Atlas Project data (the geographic areas mapped are their Hospital Referral Regions).  The RWJF logo is on the map and it is wholly their creation.  It seems fair to make one mouse click and give them credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Marty&#8217;s comment and I assume that is what is meant by Nathan in the original. </p>
<p>I use MapInfo and use the color gradient all the time.  I choose the color&#8217;s myself and would try to get the nominal differences in the data fairly regular and then apply the standard color steps to them.</p>
<p>Anyway, this chart is Robert Wood Johnson foundation chart using Dartmouth Atlas Project data (the geographic areas mapped are their Hospital Referral Regions).  The RWJF logo is on the map and it is wholly their creation.  It seems fair to make one mouse click and give them credit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Costs Vary Widely By Region by Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were to guess, I'd say mapping in ArcGIS and then an import into Flex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were to guess, I&#8217;d say mapping in ArcGIS and then an import into Flex.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Costs Vary Widely By Region by Marty</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would probably prefer if the (lightness/luminance/value) were proportional to the health care cost.  The color difference at 7000/7500 is similar to the difference at 9000/16000, even though the price difference is much smaller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would probably prefer if the (lightness/luminance/value) were proportional to the health care cost.  The color difference at 7000/7500 is similar to the difference at 9000/16000, even though the price difference is much smaller.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care Costs Vary Widely By Region by Tom Hobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Hobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this is a really effective use of interactive mapping. Lots of information neatly presented. Any info on what software was used to develop and publish it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this is a really effective use of interactive mapping. Lots of information neatly presented. Any info on what software was used to develop and publish it?</p>
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