Can’t say I was overly impressed with it. Need something with a little more kick to it.

The concerns with putting a real gun on this thing… hmm… Like Bryan S. said, you’d have to beef up the frame and servos something fierce. I mean, he’s got a little half-pound airsoft gun in that thing with negligible recoil. Even a light .380 would challenge the most stalwart of home-hobby servos – it might work exactly once, then you’d be picking up turret pieces. Not to say larger servos couldn’t be found/made.

I was more interested in this system for photographic shooting. High Definition video surveillance cameras are just now coming out, are expensive as heck ($3k+), and consume considerable bandwidth/hard-drive space when in use.

Instead of HD, which is mostly limited to 720p (1M pixel) or 1080p (2M pixel) at best, slap a 10M pixel camera ($200) on the turret, and record the SD + 1 10Mpix picture per second. You’d get the basic motion concept of what was going on from the SD source, and all the detail you’d ever want from the still photos.

There have been some advancements in video processing technology that even having 1 high-res picture every 5-10 seconds (as long as the subject area doesn’t change much) can make SD video look like HD or better.

An additional plus – cameras don’t have recoil.

Both the videos show a solenoid operated spool valve gun (Ion) or ram activated poppet valve gun(other vid with silver gun)

And most of those guns shoot fast enough form normal activation that they seem to be full auto. When you can reach 20 balls per second, (only about 12 if you actually pulled the trigger for each shot) no matter what, it looks like FA.

When you look at all the other TV shows that deal with guns, this looks even better. All the other ones are the same plot over and over and over: Dumb father over reacts to a story of crime, dumb father gets a gun, dumb father wakes up in the middle of the night and almost shoots one of the kids. Only, he doesn’t actually take the gun. He takes a tennis racket (Family Ties) or a golf club (Too Close for Comfort). Now, the fact that he does not brain the child with that “weapon,” made me wonder why he would have pulled the trigger on the gun.

Also, I bet Ted Knight would have felt a lot different if he’d confronted a pair of rapists with a tennis racket in his hand. He had a pair of daughters in the apartment upstairs. It’s fine if he didn’t care enough to protect them, but don’t tell the rest of us we have to disarm ourselves.

Love the Portal quotes too. Heh.

My initial thought was that maybe these were to be kept in the office somewhere at schools in Chicago for the use of police officers on duty at the school, or faculty, in the case of a deranged student deciding to go on a shooting rampage. That sounds like a better use for them than the investigation of misappropriated school funds.

On a related note, our neighborhood day-care lady has a CCL;
so, a carrying-carer, ya know?

The beat goes on…

Appears that their special agents work waste and fraud cases involving education funds and programs and have full law enforcement and training, and sometimes conduct search warrants and arrests.

Nice photoshop btw

“Booby traps are illegal, you can’t use deadly force to protect property when you aren’t there. Every year you hear of some homeowner or business owner going to jail b/c they killed a burglar with a man trap.”

Well put. I remember years ago, an older gent who had a store that was repeatedly burgled after hours. I believe they kept hacking thru the roof. So he set up an electrified grate/mesh in a previous opened hole in the false ceiling. Yep he fried a teenage kid a few days later. I do believe he eventually got off, but it was an ugly hard fought court battle to do so. I do believe the kin of the deceased went after him civilly after criminal proceedings were over.

It was on national news for awhile.

Anyone know how many schools there are in the Chicago area? Or the downtown area? Probably more than that, but it is a somewhat odd number (in both aspects of the word).

I figure that in order to use a real firearm, you would not only need to beef up the frame, but the motors to handle forces one them as well, adn add a way to actuate the trigger, as I figure this unit fires by direct interface with teh paintball gun control board, which has each shot actuated by software command.

Metal storm this is not;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4cLABtscEk&feature=related

If someone has the resources to get an AR-15 upper without throwing up any red flags and doing it with a false name and address, then have the capacity / resources / know-how to machine the lower so it fits properly, are also certainly capable of buying a black market AR-15, purchasing the real thing at a gun show, or stealing one. And most criminals that aren’t able to get one on the black market certainly aren’t capable of machining a airsoft lower to fit an AR-15 upper… One would need real training in gun-smithing to be able to pull something like this off.

And dont be silly, Airsoft parts are made of a thin “Monkey Metal” or “Pot Metal” which couldn’t sustain the pressures created by the real thing anyway, which is precision machined for steel.

Campus police have effectively doubled their patrols and have orders to arrest anyone Open Carrying, no questions asked. This is just turning into a pissing match… :-/

and that thing would dominate in a paintball game. you could have a section of land totallt blocked.

Being able to put an upper on something (airsoft receiver in this case) that can not readily fire a round is useless. Having to heavily modify an airsoft receiver to be able to accept a fire control group and then calling it an illegal lower that was smuggled into the country, is bullshit.

What is relevant is that, according to the gunsmith, “The upper receiver of an AR15 fits onto the lower of the WE TTI M4″. The upper receiver includes the barrel, gas tube, bolt carrier, bolt, and firing pin. If you can put the AR-15 upper receiver on the airsoft lower receiver, you’ve solved the problems you pointed out. And as I wrote, you can buy a complete AR-15 upper receiver, through the mail, with no restriction. If you don’t believe that, do a quick Google search on “AR-15 upper receiver complete” and go shopping.

The concerns that BATF noted are legitimate, and they are based on knowledge of both the law and the weapon system.

I will agree with you that there’s not much economic sense in modifying an airsoft rifle to accept the parts to make it fire, it would cost a lot more than just buying an AR-15 off the shelf. To do that, you would be operating within the law. What the BATF is apparently concerned with is those people who DON’T operate within the law.

I didn’t see anything in this discussion that indicates that BATF is concerned about full-auto capability, because the basic legal AR-15 is a semi-auto rifle.

State schools, by law, can not have their own firearms laws, however this is exactly what uvu has done. The cops were enforcing an illegal school policy and were frankly uninformed.

It’s worth noting that in order to carry on school property you have have a permit. State law does not indicate HOW individuals with permits must carry. They can carry openly, concealed, or partially concealed.

That is the “Organismo de Investigacion Judicial”, our Judiciary Police. The team is under command of a judge, who is the one responsible for all the actions regarding the operation. It is done in order to apprehend indivduals required by court, or to gather more evidence. “Los Guido” is a very dangerous part of the Central Valley, where San Jose, the capital is.

This video was very funny since the she opens the gate and asks “what are you doing?” and after the gate is ripped off and they are comming in she says “and now how am I supposed to fix thwe gate?”

Here you can see another operation of the OIJ, where they were received by a guy with aupposedly an AK-47, then they said an MP5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8194XD9h2uA The guys in blue are regular police but prepared for riots, they are there to protect the press, judge and OIJ team from local gangs, so they can focus on the main operation only.

Until a few years ago, isntead of using chains, the would fire a .12 ga slug on the door lock, but a child got killed on one operation, so now only cars are used, or the heavy bars to push open lighter doors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfvLcozLwtE

Now, if you WERE capable of getting your hands on a new barrel, a firing pin, a full upper receiver, and all the parts / training / know how to mod it and fix it, you may as well buy a real AR-15 and get the full auto parts yourself, putting yourself in less danger and with much less effort.

If they have any legitimate documentation on this thing firing real cartridges in full auto, I would like to see it, ATF.

Some people wear necklaces under their shirts, some people wear them over top visible to everyone… I think the choice should be there as well for law abiding gun owners. Also, depending on body type, concealed carry holsters might not be the best choice, or vise versa.

I know what you mean how there seems to be different standards we will accept for realism depending on the style of movie.

It’s interesting to hear that the media screws up in portraying paintball properly.

They pile into those trucks like they are clown cars. I wasn’t expecting the rollover at the end of the 1st video!

I also don’t go around spouting crazy talk about shooting people and martial law. Sounding crazy gets you treated as crazy.

I totally agree. There is the possibility that his wife wanted a divorce though, so she set him up by ratting him out and fabricating some stories of what he apparently said.

I have nothing against the open carry guys but I don’t understand the motivation. If you have a choice to carry concealed or carry what is the advantage of open carry.

Understand that I’m not looking for a flame war but I don’t understand the motivation!

On the one hand, as noted above, the movie has to have a plot, the plot needs to be interesting, and it needs to tell the beginning, middle and end within the space of around two hours. Some parts need to be left out, some parts need to be exaggerated to make them interesting, and some parts need to be invented from whole cloth so that the average dweeb on the street will like it. The film, after all, is marketed to the general population, not just military personnel.

On the other hand, I often find it interesting that no one seems to complain overmuch that Tony Stark, for example, can somehow wear a heatless, wasteless nuclear reactor embedded in his chest, but plenty of people will go to great lengths to point out that the tank round could not have possibly struck Iron Man in midair like that. Apparently there are limits to the level of disbelief we are willing to suspend- though I fully admit that a “gritty, realistic” movie like Locker is supposed to require considerably less suspension.

On the third hand, I also know full well how hard it is for someone who is not part of a “scene” to grasp it. I’m a paintball enthusiast- among other things- and I’ve been watching the media’s portrayal of our sport since very early on. Everything from an early episode of LA Law (roughly 1991) to “King of the Hill” (about 2000) to whatever late-night blabbermouth needs a quick skit that involves “guns”.

They have never once, not ONCE, gotten it right. Whether it’s something simple like masks (which I can understand since they think we gotta see the actors’ faces) or more complex like the dynamics of the game, they will NOT get it right- and that’s assuming they even try, since more often than not, they’re playing for a gag or trying to pass it off as a “violent” sport.

We “know” that Top Gun wasn’t realistic, but we give it a pass because hey, Kelly McGillis and warplanes shooting at things. We know James Bond isn’t realistic, but it’s supposed to be escapism, not a documentary. It’s more fun to imagine ourselves at the baccarat table casually dropping ten thousand pounds on a hand, then knocking back a martini just before bedding the hot supermodel who also just happens to be the brilliant kung-fu master henchman, than it is to try and imagine how Bond manages to escape fifteen kinds of STDs and half a dozen paternity suits.

Bottom line? Hurt Locker, errors and all, is still miles better than that Matt Damon piece of shit about to come out.

Doc.

Most police forces are untrained, unprepared an generally unequipped, the Federal police is nicely equipped, though, nothing more outstanding that the average U.S. Citizen. I respect most forces except the ones at the municipal level, those are more of a problem than a solution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO-4-YYQUPs

Random video to compensate for the vagueness of this post. an actual Mexican Army on budget training, perhaps to many video games? I don’t know, the back to back seems stupid to me, I think they where using CO2 guns, at some point I see a CO2 discharge.

The police, no matter how they are armed, cannot be everywhere at once.

Hmmh.

LOL

The mail does go in the end, though the final door setup hadn’t been finished at time of installation. Instead it has a plate bolted on, rendering this 1911 a fine work of gun art

Here we go, found them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fspZibuzMcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPHgzjRtzEs&feature=related