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		<title>Comment on News Corp to Offer Plaid Stamps! by Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
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		<description>It's more of a reaction to Google's liberal bent. I doubt he'll ace out Drudge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more of a reaction to Google&#8217;s liberal bent. I doubt he&#8217;ll ace out Drudge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Windows 7 Costs so Much by Stefaan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There we go again:

Quote:
 [Windows] almost never get infections of any kind, I believe because the bad guys see Windows huge market share and figure the ROI is much higher targeting billion plus Windows machines in the world.

Burglars are lazy by definition.  They break into the houses that are easiest to break in - first. Then they go after the hard ones.  It is the ease that is the main factor, not the quantity...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There we go again:</p>
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 [Windows] almost never get infections of any kind, I believe because the bad guys see Windows huge market share and figure the ROI is much higher targeting billion plus Windows machines in the world.</p>
<p>Burglars are lazy by definition.  They break into the houses that are easiest to break in &#8211; first. Then they go after the hard ones.  It is the ease that is the main factor, not the quantity&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on News Corp to Offer Plaid Stamps! by K.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It would be illegal for Murdock to collude with the owners of the NY Times and others in that tier of news, and do this en mass, ...": really ? In Belgium (and Europe), it's apparently not: french speaking newppapers collude (or ask) together to refuse to be indexed in google news. See my post below (and sorry for my free-style english).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It would be illegal for Murdock to collude with the owners of the NY Times and others in that tier of news, and do this en mass, &#8230;&#8221;: really ? In Belgium (and Europe), it&#8217;s apparently not: french speaking newppapers collude (or ask) together to refuse to be indexed in google news. See my post below (and sorry for my free-style english).</p>
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		<title>Comment on News Corp to Offer Plaid Stamps! by K.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm living in Belgium, the tiny country around Brussels in Europe.
In this country (10 million people), 6 million people (the flamishes) speak dutch and 4 millions (walloons and brussels people) speak french. If you go to news.google.be (dutch speaking), you will have a lot of links to flemish newspapers but if you go to news.google.be/?hl=fr (french speaking), none of the links point to newspapers because they collectively refused that. The main reason was that google news help people to bypass the home page of the newspapers sites. You may want to know the consequences of that ? I don't know, I'm not a specialist but this country seems one of the rare country where newspapers sites are the most visited news websites. On the other hand, those sites are not profitable which is their main concern. As a reader, I would prefer to have all the news links in google news but that's not that embarassing : there are no more that 4 interesting newspapers in frenchspeaking belgium. For the rest : french (from france), english and US news, google news is my pet ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m living in Belgium, the tiny country around Brussels in Europe.<br />
In this country (10 million people), 6 million people (the flamishes) speak dutch and 4 millions (walloons and brussels people) speak french. If you go to news.google.be (dutch speaking), you will have a lot of links to flemish newspapers but if you go to news.google.be/?hl=fr (french speaking), none of the links point to newspapers because they collectively refused that. The main reason was that google news help people to bypass the home page of the newspapers sites. You may want to know the consequences of that ? I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;m not a specialist but this country seems one of the rare country where newspapers sites are the most visited news websites. On the other hand, those sites are not profitable which is their main concern. As a reader, I would prefer to have all the news links in google news but that&#8217;s not that embarassing : there are no more that 4 interesting newspapers in frenchspeaking belgium. For the rest : french (from france), english and US news, google news is my pet <img src='http://www.cringely.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on News Corp to Offer Plaid Stamps! by Edmund Cramp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edmund Cramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's complex - and you're making it sound too simple here.

Google indexes newspapers ... but most "newspapers" these days carry very little real news ... most of what they carry is either opinion pieces, seeking to justify one political view or another, or else - well reality TV level articles. How many people here look at the Google News page and find more than one or two links to anything or real interest? The real news is not carried on Google News but instead by small US papers like Mother Jones and The Nation, and non-US papers ... and, of course, real opinion pieces from people like Robert.

Losing the London Times and the Wall Street Journal from Google is not a big loss - Murdoch has basically gutted both papers at the Internet level of any real reporting in his search for the same level of exposure that Google offers everyone. Google and Murdoch both seek eyeballs - without worrying too much is the eyeballs are connected to anything.  My guess is that Murdock is probably right - pulling his papers out of Google will not change his core readership much and let's face it, the inability of newspapers to monetize Internet news viewers has been a big factor in their current sorry state.  What's happening here is that Murdoch has probably noticed that the people who pay for his papers aren't reading the stuff that Google is indexing.

What Murdoch (and other newspapers) need to do is find a way to get paying readers back again - publishing on paper is expensive compared to publishing on the Internet yet paper monetizes the news in a way the the Internet does not.  In the end it's all about controlling who reads the news and knowing who reads the news - both generate income ... and Google and the Internet are not helping them do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s complex &#8211; and you&#8217;re making it sound too simple here.</p>
<p>Google indexes newspapers &#8230; but most &#8220;newspapers&#8221; these days carry very little real news &#8230; most of what they carry is either opinion pieces, seeking to justify one political view or another, or else &#8211; well reality TV level articles. How many people here look at the Google News page and find more than one or two links to anything or real interest? The real news is not carried on Google News but instead by small US papers like Mother Jones and The Nation, and non-US papers &#8230; and, of course, real opinion pieces from people like Robert.</p>
<p>Losing the London Times and the Wall Street Journal from Google is not a big loss &#8211; Murdoch has basically gutted both papers at the Internet level of any real reporting in his search for the same level of exposure that Google offers everyone. Google and Murdoch both seek eyeballs &#8211; without worrying too much is the eyeballs are connected to anything.  My guess is that Murdock is probably right &#8211; pulling his papers out of Google will not change his core readership much and let&#8217;s face it, the inability of newspapers to monetize Internet news viewers has been a big factor in their current sorry state.  What&#8217;s happening here is that Murdoch has probably noticed that the people who pay for his papers aren&#8217;t reading the stuff that Google is indexing.</p>
<p>What Murdoch (and other newspapers) need to do is find a way to get paying readers back again &#8211; publishing on paper is expensive compared to publishing on the Internet yet paper monetizes the news in a way the the Internet does not.  In the end it&#8217;s all about controlling who reads the news and knowing who reads the news &#8211; both generate income &#8230; and Google and the Internet are not helping them do this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on News Corp to Offer Plaid Stamps! by Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as anecdotes go, Google didn't help me find my way to Bob's column today either; I have it on my RSS list.  What does that prove?  I still use Google for lots of other things.  twitter seems like noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as anecdotes go, Google didn&#8217;t help me find my way to Bob&#8217;s column today either; I have it on my RSS list.  What does that prove?  I still use Google for lots of other things.  twitter seems like noise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Technology Evil? by Keegiebear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keegiebear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the other day, I heard the phrase that describes what you are trying to say. Crimogenic environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the other day, I heard the phrase that describes what you are trying to say. Crimogenic environment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on News Corp to Offer Plaid Stamps! by BozoTheClown</title>
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		<dc:creator>BozoTheClown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the '50s when I was a teenager, I worked in our small town A&amp;P. Very likely the "corporate management" of the A&amp;P never went off to WWII and Korea. The A&amp;P had no meaningful financial control in the local stores.  Groceries, Meat and Produce were independent fiefdoms at war with each other in the local store and at the regional office. "Business as usual, according to tradition." 

That A&amp;P store (as described in the referenced book) was/became dirty and drab. 

One block away in a town of 15k, a local grocer built a "food land" market, with "choice", bright decor, variety, flowers, beer &amp; wine, photomurals, etc. That standalone INDEPENDENT store is STILL there, but the A&amp;P decayed and blew away four decades ago.  

Bob: Rejection of mall &amp; anchor store concept? Nope, that's not the real reason. A&amp;P in nearby college small city went into a strip mall, NAKED fluorescent lights, drab, dirty, black paint, unchanged product range, just BIGGER &amp; CHEAPER. Store closed in a few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the &#8217;50s when I was a teenager, I worked in our small town A&amp;P. Very likely the &#8220;corporate management&#8221; of the A&amp;P never went off to WWII and Korea. The A&amp;P had no meaningful financial control in the local stores.  Groceries, Meat and Produce were independent fiefdoms at war with each other in the local store and at the regional office. &#8220;Business as usual, according to tradition.&#8221; </p>
<p>That A&amp;P store (as described in the referenced book) was/became dirty and drab. </p>
<p>One block away in a town of 15k, a local grocer built a &#8220;food land&#8221; market, with &#8220;choice&#8221;, bright decor, variety, flowers, beer &amp; wine, photomurals, etc. That standalone INDEPENDENT store is STILL there, but the A&amp;P decayed and blew away four decades ago.  </p>
<p>Bob: Rejection of mall &amp; anchor store concept? Nope, that&#8217;s not the real reason. A&amp;P in nearby college small city went into a strip mall, NAKED fluorescent lights, drab, dirty, black paint, unchanged product range, just BIGGER &amp; CHEAPER. Store closed in a few years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on News Corp to Offer Plaid Stamps! by Damion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. I think they no doubt would take a dip, and would be a talked about news item on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. I think they no doubt would take a dip, and would be a talked about news item on TV.</p>
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		<title>Comment on News Corp to Offer Plaid Stamps! by Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn't a typo. sow means "to scatter seed" as well as "a female pig". Your thinking of "sew", meaning "to repair with thread". The former is the intended meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t a typo. sow means &#8220;to scatter seed&#8221; as well as &#8220;a female pig&#8221;. Your thinking of &#8220;sew&#8221;, meaning &#8220;to repair with thread&#8221;. The former is the intended meaning.</p>
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