<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:blogger="http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/" xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106</id><updated>2024-10-04T19:00:40.650-07:00</updated><category term="gender"/><category term="good gift"/><category term="healing"/><category term="help"/><category term="living waters"/><category term="restoration"/><category term="wholeness"/><title type="text">Jen's Chat on that</title><subtitle type="html"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default?redirect=false" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/" rel="alternate" type="text/html"/><link href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" rel="hub"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false" rel="next" type="application/atom+xml"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><generator uri="http://www.blogger.com" version="7.00">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>40</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><xhtml:meta content="noindex" name="robots" xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"/><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-3789246395319275888</id><published>2021-10-09T07:06:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2021-10-09T07:21:35.111-07:00</updated><title type="text">Amazing Love Event 2021</title><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgeNPmta4TIFoT9bETutjlRxw-beDUZrPnKS5mfXopYfZMXcocvAQaXdG78fRMX0FehFLzaXpRwWPVIh2o5SRPL9L4sKqMyGu63fPdklayW78mAAuwERxPo3UTjRNFI5_WcfXyTmPXXSM4F/s1476/ALE+2021.png" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" data-original-height="1476" data-original-width="948" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgeNPmta4TIFoT9bETutjlRxw-beDUZrPnKS5mfXopYfZMXcocvAQaXdG78fRMX0FehFLzaXpRwWPVIh2o5SRPL9L4sKqMyGu63fPdklayW78mAAuwERxPo3UTjRNFI5_WcfXyTmPXXSM4F/s320/ALE+2021.png" width="206" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was a blessing and honor to be a part of the Amazing Love Event 2021.&amp;nbsp; Here is my testimony of God's goodness and faithfulness to me.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://vib.by/v/71VK7AmJh"&gt;https://vib.by/v/71VK7AmJh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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What is &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIoZvHU3wwg" target="_blank"&gt;Living Waters&lt;/a&gt;?&amp;nbsp; Such a good question and the answers could be many an varied.&amp;nbsp; I could share many things myself but there is one specific answer that best defines why I asked in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIoZvHU3wwg" target="_blank"&gt;Living Waters&lt;/a&gt; is a discipleship series aimed at restoring God's image in humanity.&amp;nbsp; This restoration results in sexual and relational wholeness.&amp;nbsp; Living Waters defines "wholeness" as the freedom to manifest in one's personal identity &amp;amp; human relationships the goodness of what it means to be male and female.&amp;nbsp; This goodness is experienced in affirming non-erotic relationships with the same gender and in trusting relationships with the opposite gender, which can result in sexual fulfillment within the boundaries of marriage.&lt;br /&gt;
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This past February 2019 I attended the Living Waters Leadership Training and was commissioned and released as a Living Waters Coordinator.&amp;nbsp; It's my hope to establish a Living Waters Pilot Program this Fall.&lt;br /&gt;
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My hope for the LW Pilot will consist of 8 - 10 people, both male and female.&amp;nbsp; We will meet for a shortened version of the regular 20-week program.&amp;nbsp; For now, we are shooting for 10 weeks.&amp;nbsp; We will need a worship team, prayer team, 8 - 10 folks whom God calls forward to be a part of this.&amp;nbsp; We will meet at Christian Life Center here in Missoula, MT.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of the topics that we will choose from are:&amp;nbsp; Acknowledging our need, Becoming Responsive to the Father's Love, The Fighting Father, Revealing Christ through the Gift of Our Bodies, the Cross &amp;amp; Confession, Renouncing Idols, Identifying Brokenness &amp;amp; Resuming the Journey, The True Self Forgives, the True Self Loves His/Her Gender, Restoring Women's Honor, Restoring Men's Honor, For the Bride, and several others.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Living Waters Ministry comes from &lt;a href="https://desertstream.org/introduction/" target="_blank"&gt;Desert Streams Ministry&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Desert Streams was started by Andy Comiskey almost 4 decades ago and is now an international ministry to many all over the world.&amp;nbsp; You can read the &lt;a href="https://desertstream.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/2018-year-end-newsletter.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;Year End Report for 2018&lt;/a&gt; by clicking on this link.&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you join me in praying?&amp;nbsp; It's my heart's desire to see a Living Waters Ministry established in my church, Christian Life Center.&amp;nbsp; Establishing this pilot is the first step.&amp;nbsp; I cannot do this without prayer support.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Please pray for:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Prayer Team consisting of 2 - 4 people (praying during each of the 10 sessions)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Worship Team consisting of 2 people (male &amp;amp; female)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Participants, 8 - 10 people (who will become leaders after the pilot)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discernment of which of the 20 chapters we will use for this 10-week pilot&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Logistical details in my church, rooms to use, specific dates in the Fall, etc.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Small Group Leaders for the men and women's small group time&lt;/li&gt;
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If you are willing to pray with me, would you respond by adding your name to the comments section so I am aware and can keep you updated regarding the progress made?&amp;nbsp; Thank you.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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It's been over 32 years since Jesus spoke to my heart and asked me to be fully devoted to Him.&amp;nbsp; I write now from the perspective of that life lived with Jesus.&amp;nbsp; I've been married to my husband Karl since 1988.&amp;nbsp; We have 5 children together ranging in ages from 27 to 14.&amp;nbsp; We have four sons and one daughter.&amp;nbsp; My daughter is my youngest and still in my home.&amp;nbsp; It's almost hard to believe that we only have 4 more years with her until we are empty nesters.&lt;br /&gt;
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I could not have dreamed of the life that God has given me.&amp;nbsp; It was not possible.&amp;nbsp; My life today was not even in my imagination.&lt;br /&gt;
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I had walked with Jesus for two years while living with my last lover.&amp;nbsp; When Jesus asked me to choose between my life with her or a life fully devoted to Him, there was no way to deny Him.&amp;nbsp; He had touched me, healed me, and changed me in two major areas of life and I&amp;nbsp;wanted Him.&amp;nbsp; I knew there was no life without Him.&amp;nbsp; I also believed that I would not survive without someone sharing life with me.&amp;nbsp; I asked Jesus to bring me a husband and teach me how to love and trust him.&amp;nbsp; I also committed&amp;nbsp;to Jesus that I would not get involved with any man that was not actively walking with Him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even with my prayer, I could not dream of the life that I have today.&amp;nbsp; What I did dream reflected the value of what I was giving up for Him and also incorporated my hope&amp;nbsp;of what God could possibly do as well.&amp;nbsp; My dream was of one day sitting on the back yard deck, on a warm summers day, with my last lover.&amp;nbsp; We chatted over tea and watched our children playing together.&amp;nbsp; These children came from our separate lives and marriages.&amp;nbsp; This dream was living and active in my heart and mind.&amp;nbsp; I could feel the warmth of the day.&amp;nbsp; I could see the green grass.&amp;nbsp; I could hear the sounds of children playing in the yard.&amp;nbsp; I could see my last lover in the other chair.&amp;nbsp; It was strong and vivid.&lt;br /&gt;
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After we physically separated our lives, which happened in a very short span of time, we spent many hours on the phone crying and lamenting the great loss we both felt.&amp;nbsp; There were many times during those calls where we talked about this dream of mine.&amp;nbsp; There was no rule book of how to unravel our lives after having lived with each other for two years.&amp;nbsp; As the next year progressed and our lives changed, the need to call ebbed away, the tears faded, and we became independent from one another.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus never chided me for my dream.&amp;nbsp; He never even commented on my dream.&amp;nbsp; Jesus was drawing me closer to Him and helping me become the women that He had intended me to be from the very beginning.&amp;nbsp; I had no idea of who He had intended me to be.&amp;nbsp; If someone with the gift of prophecy had said to me in the beginning that I would be married with five children.&amp;nbsp; That I would love babies, respect my husband, teach Sunday school, that I would no longer struggle with same-sex attraction, that I would find safety and protection in being under the covering of my husband, that I would enjoy doors being open for me by any man, that I would enjoy being in the world of women, that I would love being feminine, that I would no longer walk in the fear of rejection, etc.&amp;nbsp; I would have dismissed this prophet easily, knowing that none of that was really possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus did not need to say anything about my dream, it did not prevent him from what He was really doing in my life.&amp;nbsp; The dream just faded away as He brought forward the life that He purposed for me.&amp;nbsp; I am so thankful.&lt;br /&gt;
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This past August, my husband and I entered a new season of life, that of being grandparents.&amp;nbsp; Our oldest son and his wife had our very first grandbaby.&amp;nbsp; The joy of a grammy's heart is indescribable.&amp;nbsp; Jesus is still at work in me to manifest the life that He has made me for.&amp;nbsp; I am eternally grateful.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a parent myself and with my own childhood largely seasoned with various GLBT dogmas, I do not trust so-called “experts” who introduce comprehensive sex education a la carte or muddled inside another creatively-named education strategy to catch parents unaware. Regrettably, most parents do not understand how the dark veils of equity, inclusive, diversity, and other positive-sounding terminology, using the nondiscrimination terms “sexual orientation” and “gender identity,” mask the state’s plan to control our children’s minds and attitudes. As parents, we better be concerned about our children’s privacy,  speech, and religious freedoms, and for all intents and purposes, our own.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Think about it this way. The application of school policies travel with your children and their friends in what is considered the “school climate.” “School climate” is not limited to school buildings and land, school buses, field trips, places where students hang out to eat and talk with friends (cafeterias, cafes, malls, and street corners), and research locales for school projects (libraries, workplaces, and home).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;School education policies associated with the “school climate” also  travel and apply to virtual environments which your children have access to. Such devices as computers, laptops, flash drives, cell phones, I-pods, and other personal devices used to upload/download text messages, music, and pictures and chat on social networks  (Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, and private e-mail accounts) are not off limits to the “school climate” policies and policing thereof. No matter where these devices are carried to or stowed—even in your home or ethnic or faith communities– the “school climate” policies encroach into all facets of your children’s lives. As a model, you probably have heard of anti-bullying and safe school policies. As you look closely at these seemingly-good sounding policies, you will see that virtual environments can be policed for any bullying and unacceptable beliefs and opinions in regards to sexual orientation and gender identity.  Now, do not get me wrong. I am not endorsing name-calling and hurtful words. Rather, I believe in freedom of opinion and speech where we publicly exercise our moral consciences and beliefs and opinions without fear of reprimand. Limitations are already in place in various ways as we shall see.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Let us take a look at what comprehensive sex education does. It mandates elimination of traditional morals, religious beliefs, and encourages children and youth to welcome explicit sexuality, diverse sexual orientations and gender identity expressions within the classroom and in their personal lives. Mention of moral boundaries and sexually transmitted diseases in the classroom is discouraged. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Kinsey-inspired ideals are behind comprehensive sex education and are bad for students’ health because they increase STI’s, adolescent mental health issues, and unwed motherhood poverty in all societies. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Comprehensive sex education assumes childhood and youth sexual experimentation. When contraception and abortion are offered as alternatives, chastity is not expected.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Comprehensive sex education offers no protection for parental rights; and there is no provision for parents to opt their children out of lessons, classrooms, and general assembly programs which teach explicit sexuality, sexual orientation and gender identity as normal. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; "&gt;One of the backers of global sex education is UNFPA which demands a redefinition of gender to include the "spectrum of gender identities," "comprehensive sexuality education" and "safe abortion." Another backer is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/home/print_article/news/4074/" target="_blank" style="line-height: 14px; font-weight: inherit; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 104, 207); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; text-decoration: underline; "&gt;UNESCO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; "&gt;...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Behind UNFPA and UNESCO, are the Yogyakarta Principles which are international guiding principles which special interest groups developed in 2006 and plan on forcing on all educational environments globally. See a brief on the Yogyakarta Principles &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.familywatchinternational.org/fwi/yogyakarta_brief.pdf" target="_blank" style="line-height: 14px; font-weight: inherit; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 104, 207); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; text-decoration: underline; "&gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt; by Family Watch International.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;A UN initiative, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.yogyakartaprinciples.org/" target="_blank" style="line-height: 14px; font-weight: inherit; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 104, 207); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; text-decoration: none; "&gt;The Yogyakarta Principles&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;, the “Application of International Human Rights Law in relation to Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity” and other UN global initiatives have far reaching implications for a nation’s sovereignty if any of its principles are adopted through legislation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;The World Health Organization and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;the Pan American Health Organization, in conjunction with the World Association for Sexology express that to ensure the development of healthy sexuality in human beings and societies, sexual rights must be recognized, respected and exercised, promoted and defended by all societies through this governing framework.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Thus, this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;plan presupposes that by teaching “safe” sex practices, offering contraception, promoting abortion, and reducing sexual violence (by teaching sexual consent), these lessons will eradicate major societal problems.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Within the globalist agenda, distinct gender roles are seen as bad and discriminatory. This puts young people at risk of not valuing their own gender as represented in manhood and womanhood. Today, we know &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/delusions_of_gender/" target="_blank" style="line-height: 14px; font-weight: inherit; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 104, 207); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; text-decoration: underline; "&gt;male and female brains&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;, hormones, genetics, and anatomy are different. Yet, there are special interest groups pretending this isn’t so. Children benefit from the unique and complementary qualities fathering and mothering bring. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; "&gt;Gender roles, especially associated with mothering and fathering, are tied to biology and are not social constructs. However, if  the globalists have their way, gender will be treated as only a social construct, teaching that a young boy can grow up to be a “Mom.” Therefore, same-sex and transsexual parents, alternative marriages, and various  family forms are presented as normal and healthy in all materials to young children within the classroom. At the same time, man-woman married couples are marginalized and eliminated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Forcing each child to be indoctrinated with  comprehensive sex education and the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.familywatchinternational.org/fwi/documents/fwipolicybrief_sp_rapp_rte.pdf" target="_blank" style="line-height: 14px; font-weight: inherit; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 104, 207); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; text-decoration: none; "&gt;“human right”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt; to all forms of sexual and gender “diversity” at a time when children and youth are undergoing huge physical, hormonal, emotional, psychological, and social changes is unconscionable. Meanwhile, no student or school staff or parent is permitted to speak against any form of sexuality or gender identity they disagree with.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Using sexual orientation and gender identity terms causes children to question their innocent same-sex play and labels children’s developing sexuality prematurely. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; "&gt;When children and youth have particular feelings, it is not compassionate to label children’s developing sexuality and gender identity with social and political terminology such as gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transsexual. However, some schools actually label these children &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;and permit them to use washrooms and change rooms according to their feelings and not their biological gender at birth. Furthermore, some schools provide these children with counseling to accept their feelings rather than to remove their gender confusion. As an healthy alternative, there are a number of researchers, medical doctors, and therapists who are compassionate towards youth who struggle with their sexuality and gender identity. Parents, educators, and students can find &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; "&gt;more helpful information at Facts About Youth &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://factsaboutyouth.com/" target="_blank" style="line-height: 14px; font-weight: inherit; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 104, 207); cursor: pointer; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; text-decoration: underline; "&gt;http://factsaboutyouth.com/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; "&gt; .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Often, special interest groups are allowed into schools to set up their programs under the banner of anti-bullying, safe schools' policies and through Gay-Straight Alliances. In reality, these policies provide a direct legal entranceway for indoctrination, desensitization, personal and political recruitment of our vulnerable children by special interest groups within our schools while silencing all students, teachers, administrators, and parents who oppose the “sexual” rights or “human rights” agenda.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Basically, teachers receive sensitivity training and are taught how to be “thought” police. Teachers and other school staff police speech and report anyone who holds up traditional marriage, speaks against particular sexual acts, or supports traditional gender roles. This could lead to the introduction of hate crimes where particular teachers are reported to the authorities and penalized for committing a “hate” crime. Comprehensive sex education does not allow for any form of discriminatory speech such as expressing opposition to homosexual conduct, same-sex marriage and parenting, or transsexual dress by school administrators, teachers, students, parents, or other staff.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="ecxMsoBodyText3" align="left" style="line-height: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 11px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;span lang="en-US" style="line-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Georgia; color: black; "&gt;Comprehensive sex education permeates and encompasses all policies, implementation guidelines, strategies, curriculum materials, grade levels, classrooms, and the “school climate.” As well, families are not off limits to supervision by teachers and administrators who are watching for any “abuse” of children. Could it be that parental moral and religious instruction around sexuality and gender will be considered abusive and punishable and children will be removed from their homes because of complaints?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/6728449884711954397/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/6728449884711954397" rel="replies" title="1 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/6728449884711954397" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/6728449884711954397" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2010/12/comprehensive-sex-education-state.html" rel="alternate" title="“Comprehensive Sex Education: State Control of Our Children”  By Dawn Stefanowicz" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-491622323687932360</id><published>2010-04-24T08:38:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-24T08:38:12.403-07:00</updated><title type="text">Spiritual Truths found in the Physical World</title><content type="html">&lt;div class='posterous_autopost'&gt;&lt;p&gt;I love that God placed us in a physical world.  All around me I see spiritual applications in the physical world that gives me hope and helps me to stay grounded in reality.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The bible uses "light" and "darkness" to manifest the spiritual reality of living with God in Christ and with out Him.  It uses "water" to talk about the Holy Spirit.  I can also see others that are not actually identified in the bible but have spiritual application all the same.  There is gravity, and eating food, and many others.  Let me take just a moment to expand on what I am talking about.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Light.  Jesus claims to be the Light of the World.  Have you ever just watched the light?  I have.  If you have a closet say, in the hallway of your home.  Your sitting adjacent to that closet in the room.  Your brother comes by to grab his jacket out of the closet and opens the door.  When he opens the door the light from the room you are in floods into the closet space and the darkness that was there is pushed out.  Notice that the light invades the darkness.  The darkness never invades the lighted space.  This is a physical truth that demonstrates a Spiritual Truth.  Jesus came as the light of the world.  At the time that He came the darkness ruled.  Jesus gave Himself as the perfect lamb of sacrifice to over come that darkness and death that was ruling.  No longer does darkness rule but Jesus, the Light, has overcome the darkness.  He has invaded the space that the darkness used to rule.  Where ever Jesus is allowed to enter the light takes over and the darkness must be pushed back.  It cannot do anything but to be pushed out and overtaken by the Light.  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Continuing on that thought just a bit.  The door also represents our free will.  When we shut out Jesus out of our life by our choices, He will not come in and over come that darkness with His marvelous light.  Only when we willingly turn to Him and ask Him to come in will He enter and overcome the darkness in our lives with His light.  Just like that closet door had to be opened before the light could do what it is made to do, invade the darkness.  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Water.  In the bible the Holy Spirit is likened to Living Water.  I find it quite ironic that our bodies are made of something like 93% water.  If we give up food we can live for days and weeks but give up water and in 3 to 4 days time we will die.  What a marvelous physical demonstration of our need for the Holy Spirit in our lives.  With out physical water my body will physically die and my soul and spirit are connected to my body so I die completely.  Without the Holy Spirit in my life I cannot live.  I am a slave to my flesh and Satan.  Only in my life with Jesus do I receive the Living Water that gives to me abundant life, here and now, and also eternal life.  The bible says in Revelation that the river of living water of life, clear as crystal, comes from the throne of God and of the Lamb.  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Eating.  When I think of how I need to eat food it reminds me of how I need to be in continual communion with Jesus through the spiritual disciplines of reading the bible, praying, fasting, etc.  I do not function well when I miss a meal or let my life get so crazy that I am not only not eating continually but the proper things as well.  All this helps me to remember that there is a spiritual truth there, helping me to remain aware of it.  Just like when I skip meals and eat the wrong things I must also continually be in the bible and in prayer to keep my relationship with my Heavenly Father strong.  Particularly in prayer.  I just cannot go long and do well in my life without being in His presence through prayer.  Talking with Him listening to Him.  Like food I can go for a time without talking to Jesus and my life will not get derailed but going to long and pretty soon I'm losing strength, purpose, focus, etc.  So, like I fuel my body well, I also need to fuel my Spirit well.  That involves being in the presence of the One who made me.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Gravity.  I love the law of gravity.  To me it speaks so loudly of the reality of Truth and it's absoluteness.  When my sisters and I were growing up, my older sister had a friend who wanted to fly.  One time while partying, he decided to demonstrate his belief that he could fly.  He went to the top of a second story building and attempted to fly.  He lost his life on that day.  Gravity can be over come for a time but you cannot ignore the physical truth that gravity is there and effects your life.  Look what it takes to over come gravity for a time.  It takes a concerted effort with lots of extra energy to make a plane fly.  It can fly for a time but comes back to the earth to refuel and maintenance the plane.  You cannot over come gravity for long.  Even birds and gliders can use the natural winds and currents to fly for a time but there time in the air is also continually eroded by the law of gravity.  They can start out high but slowly come back to earth.  Even a space rocket has it limitations.  By great power a rocket can actually get out of our atmosphere and move into space.  While a rocket can over come gravity it cannot remain out there forever, it must reenter to maintain life.  If a rocket carries livings things those things need unlimited supplies of food, water, shelter, etc.  The rocket will not be able to carry those things so for life to continue it must come back into the place where gravity exists.    It the same way, to live without Truth for a time can be done but to do it for long periods of time cost you your very life.  I can know that absolute Truth exists and impacts my life because the law of gravity speaks loudly to that reality.&lt;/p&gt; 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&lt;div class='posterous_autopost'&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=343319128016"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=343319128016&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/video-poem-about-being-in-christ"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/3208704551473725964/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/3208704551473725964" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/3208704551473725964" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/3208704551473725964" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2010/03/video-poem-about-being-in-christ.html" rel="alternate" title="Video Poem about being in Christ" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-3650993780470283635</id><published>2010-02-26T10:53:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-26T10:53:49.012-08:00</updated><title type="text">Like a Child</title><content type="html">
&lt;div class='posterous_autopost'&gt;&lt;p&gt;This morning my daughter got up, just like she always does.&amp;nbsp; The older children were already off to school.&amp;nbsp; We were alone in the house.&amp;nbsp; Daddy is out of town for the next day and a half.&amp;nbsp; She quietly walks right to where she knows she will find me, at my computer in my office.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I can hear her walking toward me with the slight sound that her bare feet make on the floor.&amp;nbsp; I keep my attention focussed on my screen so she can genly and quietly approach me.&amp;nbsp; When she gets to me, she will lightly touch my arm and look towards my face.&amp;nbsp; When I turn I do so with great surprise and smiling expression that I am so thankful that she has awoke and come to me.&amp;nbsp; She climbs up into my lap, curls her legs up as well, then rests her head against my chest as I curl my arms around her.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Maylah does this every morning without fail.&amp;nbsp; I know she will come and I await that opportunity to turn and great her with great joy.&amp;nbsp; I just love when our eyes meet and she moves to get up into my lap.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;This morning, God whispered to me, this is my desire for you Jennifer.&amp;nbsp; You have not been seeking Me out lately like your daughter seeks you out.&amp;nbsp; How I long for you to return fully to Me.&amp;nbsp; This was not a rebuke but a gentle reminder that Jesus longs for me to come to Him first in the morning, before everything and anything else.&amp;nbsp; I have been coming to him, physically first, but my mind has really been focussed on other things.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Father help me to seek you first in every day, with my heart, soul, mind, and strength.&amp;nbsp; Thank you for your gentle reminder of how you long for and anticipate my arrival every morning.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Your loving daughter, Jennifer.&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/like-a-child-5"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/3650993780470283635/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/3650993780470283635" rel="replies" title="2 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/3650993780470283635" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/3650993780470283635" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2010/02/like-child_26.html" rel="alternate" title="Like a Child" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-401982942512653312</id><published>2009-12-12T11:26:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-12T11:35:41.346-08:00</updated><title type="text">The Fullness of the Gentiles - What?</title><content type="html">For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery--so that you will not be wise in your own estimation--that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in (Rom 11:25)&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have often wondered about this verse.  Just what does it mean when it says, "until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in?"  If you step back and take a look at the full chapter 11 in Roman's you will see that the Apostle Paul is making an argument for how God has allow Israels partial hardening so that the gentiles will be grafted into His Mercy and Grace and also that Israels partial hardening will end under a certain set of circumstances, "when the fullness of the gentiles comes in.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;While I'm sure that part of what it means for the "fullness of the gentiles to come in" is in regards to those who are not of Jewish decent and have made decisions to trust, follow, and obey Jesus as Lord and Savior.  But I cannot help but to think that it also has to do with some other things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;As I look at the world around me and with the help of the internet, planes, TV, radio, etc we have become a united world.  Not that we all march to the same drummer but that we are all connected, whether we like it or not.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I was just reading from Lifesitenews.com about the Copenhagen Conference meeting to discuss the issue of Climate Change/Global Warming.  One of the main areas of discussions coming out of that meeting is on World de-population.  Here is a quote from today's e-letter:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; "That conference, and its now open emphasis on world de-population as a supposed solution to the supposed global warming crisis, is a likely prelude to even more abortion, infanticide, forced sterilizations, explicit sex-ed, promotion of homosexuality and other forms of sterile, childless sex, and on and on"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The world population in many of the major countries is already on the brink of disaster.  Most of Europe and Russian is at a point where they cannot even sustain their current populations and withing the next 10 - 15 years or so will begin a dramatic decline in their total populations.  China has it's own set of problems with so many men and no women for them to marry due to their one child policies.  Japan's populations is already moving into it's demographic winter with an ever aging population.    Even here in the good ole US of A we are just barely replacing our current population and we are getting much help from those immigrants who come here, regardless of whether they do it legally or not.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I wonder if there isn't a physical connection to that determination of "when the fullness of the gentiles comes in."  Could it be possible that it also includes the reality that people will so reject God's first command given to Adam.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;"God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth." Gen 1:28"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;That we will continue to see de population such that the world population will actually begin to decrease and thus, the fullness of the gentiles will have come in.      This will of course create more world problems than we have ever experienced to date.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you think that the troubles that we have experienced in this last credit financial crisis have been bad.  A decreasing world population will be absolutely devastating.  It will unravel the world as we know it.      Let me know what you think.  I would love to here some feedback.      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com/"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/the-fullness-of-the-gentiles-what"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/401982942512653312/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/401982942512653312" rel="replies" title="3 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/401982942512653312" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/401982942512653312" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/12/fullness-of-gentiles-what.html" rel="alternate" title="The Fullness of the Gentiles - What?" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-3718631088294815609</id><published>2009-10-02T08:22:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-02T08:22:46.355-07:00</updated><title type="text">Light &amp;amp; Darkness</title><content type="html">
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt;I've been thinking for a while about the reality of Light and its relationship to dark or darkness.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I&amp;rsquo;ve been watching how the Light and darkness interact in the world around me.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It is amazing to me how the Light always invades the darkness but the darkness never invades the Light.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In fact as the darkness intensifies it only enhances the Light and makes it more easily seen.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I had my children do an experiment the other night.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We often have a time together in the evenings just before their bedtime where they do tricks for me and get silly.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We have a time of prayer together and then off to bed.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This particular night I asked them to step into my closet and shut the door and turn off the light in the closet.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Once they did that I asked them what happened when they turned off the light.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They all said, &amp;ldquo;its dark in here mom.&amp;rdquo;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Then I asked them to slide the door open and watch what happens in the closet.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I actually have two sets of doors so Connor opened his side and said, &amp;ldquo;Mom the light comes in.&amp;rdquo;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Of course when Maylah and Jethro opened the other side they also commented, &amp;ldquo;the light comes in.&amp;rdquo;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Then I had them come out and join me on the bed and we talked a bit about how the light always goes into the darkness and the darkness is always pushed out.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I&amp;rsquo;ve continued to think about this reality in the relationship between Light and darkness.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;What is it that keeps the Light out.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It the case of my experience with my children it was the closet doors.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The Light had to have a physical barrier that blocked it from moving forward.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Light cannot help but to move forward.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It never runs out or diminishes, it just keeps lighting up where ever it is not blocked from going in.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Even when it is blocked out it still eeks in around the sides and you can see the illumination around the door itself.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;At the same time I just started Bible Study Fellowship for the year.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This year we are studying the gospel of John.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In the Gospel of John Jesus and Light are tied together.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 1:4&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In Him (Jesus) was life and that life was the Light of men.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 1:5&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 1:9&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There was the true Light which coming into the world, enlightens every man.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 3:19-21&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 5:35&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He was the lamp that was burning and was shining and you were willing to rejoice for a while in his Light.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 8:12&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, &amp;ldquo;I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life.&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 9:5&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;While I am in the world, I am the Light of the world.&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 11:9-10&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Jesus answered, &amp;ldquo;Are there not twelve hours in the day?&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the Light of this world.&amp;rdquo;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But if anyone walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him.&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 12:35-36&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;So Jesus said to them, &amp;ldquo;For a little while longer the Light is among you.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Walk while you have the Light, so that darkness will not over take you; he who walks in the darkness does not know where he goes.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;While you have the Light, believe in the Light, so that you may become sons of Light.&amp;rdquo;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;These things Jesus spoke and He went away and hid Himself from them.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;John 12:46&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As I continue to ponder this relationship between Light and dark and Jesus being the Light of the world; I cannot help but to think of another scripture over in Romans.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In Romans 1:20 it says, &amp;ldquo;For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.&amp;rdquo;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;It is evident to me even more so now than before, that the Creation does really at all times reflect His glory and His presence.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Only when we withdraw from His presence does the darkness get a hold of us.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I hope that all the rest of my days that I will always move into the Light and have Jesus illumine those areas of my heart that are still in darkness.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I hope that as these days get even darker that my Light will shine even brighter that others would be drawn to Him.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;For now, I will keep pondering the Light and dark relationship hoping for more in-site into this world around me and my own life in Him.&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/light-and-darkness-2"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/3718631088294815609/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/3718631088294815609" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/3718631088294815609" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/3718631088294815609" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/10/light-darkness.html" rel="alternate" title="Light &amp;amp; Darkness" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-4987527507304514219</id><published>2009-08-27T10:18:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-27T10:33:54.166-07:00</updated><title type="text">Times of Transition by James W. Goll</title><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;    &lt;/p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;I was sent this article by a friend.  I found it to be very appropriate&lt;br /&gt;considering the times as well as an encouragement.&lt;p&gt;James W. Goll:"Praying Through Times of Transition"&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;As the senior leader of Encounters Network and its associated ministries, I&lt;br /&gt;recently called for a special time of Praying through Transition. As we adopt&lt;br /&gt;this into our Prayer Storm efforts, I trust the Holy Spirit will reveal to you&lt;br /&gt;specific strategies for Spirit-led and Spirit-empowered prayers. Adapt this theme&lt;br /&gt;and make it practical for your own life, ministry and nation.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;Worldwide Convulsions&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;The entire world is in the midst of one of the greatest times of change and&lt;br /&gt;transition I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. This is both for good and evil.&lt;br /&gt;Having prayer-walked over the Reconciliation Bridge from Heil, Germany to&lt;br /&gt;Strasbourg, France recently, I marveled at the atmosphere of genuine friendship&lt;br /&gt;and change. It is breathtaking for me, having sowed specifically into Germany&lt;br /&gt;for so many years. Not long ago, such a friendship between the citizens of&lt;br /&gt;France and Germany was only a pipe dream—but now, in part—it is a reality.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;But consider on the other hand the worldwide threats to "wipe Israel off the&lt;br /&gt;face of the earth to be remembered no more." (See Praying for Israel's Destiny&lt;br /&gt;for details prophesied from Psalm 83.) War also rages in the mountains of&lt;br /&gt;Afghanistan, Pakistan and beyond. Many nations of Africa are in great turmoil,&lt;br /&gt;torn between one tribal group and another.. There are wars and rumors of war...&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;With the worldwide recession under way, many people in the U.S. and other nations&lt;br /&gt;are losing their jobs; new leaders in power in Israel, the U.S., England and&lt;br /&gt;beyond, it does seem that everything around us is teetering! From my angle,&lt;br /&gt;we are in the midst of a worldwide convulsion. But we must drop the anchor&lt;br /&gt;of hope in such a time. We must be a light which shines brightly in the midst&lt;br /&gt;of darkness.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;The Process of Transition&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;Transition means crossing over to a new place from one condition to another.&lt;br /&gt;Transition times are times when the Lord redefines and adjusts the rules necessary&lt;br /&gt;for us to move forward. He gives us focus and direction. He teaches us about&lt;br /&gt;Himself in a new way. We must admit that we have not been where we are headed.&lt;br /&gt;We have not crossed this way before!&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;In a literary sense, a transition is the phrase that connects the past&lt;br /&gt;communication or paragraph with the future thought. This is so important to&lt;br /&gt;understand as we move forward. We must seek the Lord for His revelation during&lt;br /&gt;times of transition. When He communicates to us, we can bridge the past season&lt;br /&gt;with the new. This causes a great treasure to arise.. Without the communication&lt;br /&gt;being distinct during transitions, we lose the strength and wisdom of our past&lt;br /&gt;victories.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;There is a process which takes place in a time of change. Part of that transition&lt;br /&gt;includes:&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• A fresh level of revelation is released.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• Your present vision is adjusted.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• New vision is released and established.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• A mantle of restoration is placed upon you.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• You are healed and made whole from the past.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• A new identity is developed within you.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• New strategy is revealed to you.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• You see the fullness of your inheritance before you.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• You have the strength to overthrow your enemies.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;• You secure your inheritance.&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;Keys for Times of Transition&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;Charles Stock reminded us at a recent Encounters Network Alliance Leaders&lt;br /&gt;Summit, that we can "shine" the brightest when it is the darkest. He emphasized&lt;br /&gt;four basic keys to help us grow through our seasons of transition:&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;1. God knows what He is doing! &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;2. Our scars can be changed into trophies of His grace. &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;3. Every battle we survive is a graduation to new realms of authority. &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;4. Grace works through time—and time is on our side!&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;In my family and ministry's time of great personal loss and tragedy, there are&lt;br /&gt;a few basic things I will never let go of. Yes, God is good all the time, and&lt;br /&gt;all things work together for good. Period! Sometimes my lack of understanding&lt;br /&gt;screams at me, but in those very moments I must yield my right to understand&lt;br /&gt;and push the button called "Trust!"&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;James W. Goll&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;Encounters Network • PrayerStorm • Compassion Acts&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;pre&gt;Email: &lt;a href="mailto:info@encountersnetwork.com"&gt;info@encountersnetwork.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com/"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/times-of-transition-by-james-w-goll"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/4987527507304514219/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/4987527507304514219" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/4987527507304514219" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/4987527507304514219" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/08/times-of-transition-by-james-w-goll.html" rel="alternate" title="Times of Transition by James W. Goll" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-1887855252124001217</id><published>2009-08-24T21:27:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-24T21:27:45.082-07:00</updated><title type="text">Noodle-ing &amp;amp; Physics?</title><content type="html">
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt;I was taking my dog for a walk today and I began thinking about several things that I have thought about before.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I call this noodle-ing. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It is time that I spend thinking about, contemplating, reflecting upon, analyzing, etc some particular thing. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Today I was once again noodle-ing about the physical property of light and it relationship to dark.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I do so love the physical universe. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There are so many Spiritual realities that we can get from the physical world. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For example, I love the Law of Gravity.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It is a physical absolute that gives credence to the idea that there are also spiritual absolutes.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;No matter how hare you try, no matter what you believe, no matter how sincere you are in believing that you can fly, if you step off a building you will fall to the ground and be severely hurt.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;That may seem kind of obvious but I think you get the idea.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Tonight I was thinking about light and dark.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I had heard a radio pastor talk about a  thing he noticed about light and dark as his son opened the hall closet.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This pastor was standing in a place where he could see easily into the closet as soon as it was cracked open.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The hallway light was on.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;What he saw and came to realize is that when his son opened the door the darkness in the closet did not come out invading the light but that the light went into the closet and pushed out the darkness.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Darkness is nothing in and of itself but the reality that there is an absence of light.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Any miniscule amount of light can over come even the darkest of places and the darkness can do nothing to prevent it.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I have been noodle-ing this idea of light being the tangible quality and darkness being an absence of that tangible quality or reality.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I was also thinking of this in light of what the scriptures have to say regarding Moses and his interactions with Pharaoh.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In some places it says that Pharaoh hardened his heart and in other places it says that God hardened Pharaoh&amp;rsquo;s heart. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This has caused me to also wonder, &amp;ldquo;Why would God do such a thing?&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If God hardened Pharaohs&amp;rsquo; heart isn&amp;rsquo;t it then God&amp;rsquo;s responsibility for Pharaoh&amp;rsquo;s actions?&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Is the Word correct in what it wrote down because it doesn&amp;rsquo;t make sense to me that a loving God would cause someone to sin? Etc, etc. etc.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As I was considering all this I began to wonder if this same truth about light and dark is also true about God and his interactions with people.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Is it possible that God&amp;rsquo;s hardening Pharaoh&amp;rsquo;s heart came about not by anything that God did to Pharaoh but by God removing and withdrawing from Pharaoh, leaving Pharaoh to his own self and thinking.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Even as I&amp;rsquo;m typing this I am now thinking also about what it says in Romans chapter 1.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Three times it says that, &amp;ldquo;God gave them over&amp;hellip;.to there own thinking (my paraphrase).&amp;rdquo;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Does God give us over to our own devices and thereby default we end up in darkness?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Thanks for listening to a bit of my own noodle-ing.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Hope it has caused you to think.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I appreciate any comments to help me expand my own thinking.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Of course I will continue to invite God into my thinking to keep me honest and humble.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Blessing to you.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/noodle-ing-and-physics"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/1887855252124001217/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/1887855252124001217" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/1887855252124001217" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/1887855252124001217" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/08/noodle-ing-physics.html" rel="alternate" title="Noodle-ing &amp;amp; Physics?" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-1121978056048994106</id><published>2009-08-10T06:16:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-12T08:51:39.729-07:00</updated><title type="text">Hope In The Future</title><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I have been asking God to show me just how do I bring into today and put to use in today the reality that God speaks of in 1 Peter about HOPE. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The hope that is being spoken of is tied to several things, first it is a Living Hope (1 Peter 1:3), it is provides an inheritance that is imperishable and undefiled (1 Peter 1:4), it provides an inheritance that does not fade away and is reserved for me in heaven (1 Peter 1:4), it's a hope that is protected by the power of God thru faith (1Peter 1:5), it's a hope that provides a salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time (1Peter1:5), it's a hope that gives me reason to rejoice greatly even while suffering for a little while by necessity (1 Peter 1:6), this hope is tied to my faith and this faith is more precious than gold (1 Peter 1:7), this hope is tied to my faith that is tested by fire and will result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ (1 Peter 1:7), it is a hope tied to my faith that will obtain as the outcome the salvation of my soul (1 Peter 1:9),  and this Hope tied to my Faith are in God who also happened to raise Jesus from the dead and gave Jesus glory (1 Peter 1:21).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Again, how do I gain something for today knowing that this Hope and Faith that I have will not actually be gained until Christ comes again (or I go to Him).  Being the very practical and pragmatic person that I am, I just could not get my mind around this.  It was to far away for me to gain any tangible benefit from.  Yes, yes, yes, I know in my head all that Truth but how does that help me today.  So I have prayed for understanding and wisdom.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Yesterday our Sr. Pastor was away at convention so our Pastor of our seniors preached.  He has lived a long and full life serving the Lord and was honored to be in the pulpit.  He said that it is just so refreshing to be in the book of 1 Peter again.  yep, 1 Peter.  He shared about the first 10 verses or so.  I will not go into the whole thing but just the part that God used to answer my prayer.  Pastor Harry made reference to the word used in verse 4 regarding our inheritance being reserved for us in heaven.  He commented about loving to have a reservation for dinner, or a hotel, or even a car rental reservation.  We just show up, tell them our name, and whatever it was that was reserved for us is now ours.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Well that got me to thinking.  How do I feel when I have a trip coming up where all the reservations are already made.  The trip is planned, paid for, committed to, all I have to do is wait for that day to come to drive to the airport and I begin to receive all that has been reserved for me.  Well, after I had made the decision to go to the Exodus Conference and had made all the reservations I began to get excited every day about the day when I would leave and begin to experience all that the reservations had in store for me.  So, while I was still engaged in my life, washing laundry, cleaning, ministering, going to church, spending time with my family, etc  I had this excitement building in the back ground of my mind, knowing that the day to leave was getting every closer.  This was continually there, not distracting me from my priorities but still there, reminding me of good things to come. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;This is just what I needed to learn how to bring that reality of what is being talked about in 1 Peter into today.  The reality is I'm not going to experience it today but I can get excited about the truth that the day to leave is getting ever nearer.  Now to be honest, I do not believe that Christ is coming in the next week or two, or that my life will be ending either.  This does create a bit of a delema because it is still a bit far off.  So I'm going to ask Jesus to give me that excitement because it is beyond my human ability to appropriate by myself.  I will let you know how Jesus answers this new prayer.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Perhaps you can join me in this and you too will be blessed.&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com/"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/hope-in-the-future"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/1121978056048994106/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/1121978056048994106" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/1121978056048994106" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/1121978056048994106" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/08/hope-in-future.html" rel="alternate" title="Hope In The Future" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-8800498614631763746</id><published>2009-07-30T18:12:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-30T18:12:05.280-07:00</updated><title type="text">Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - Gods Sneaky or Divine Appointments</title><content type="html">
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt;This is a fun little story of how I ended up going to the Exodus Conference this past July.&amp;nbsp; I wasn't planning on going, in fact I wasn't even considering it.&amp;nbsp; I was aware of the conference coming up but saw no need to go.&amp;nbsp; I had been chatting with some of the Exodus staff on some other unrelated things.&amp;nbsp; Somehow word of my going into the high schools got to Scott Davies.&amp;nbsp; He contacted me and asked me if I would be willing to be a small group leader for the Xscape program.&amp;nbsp; That was definitely something I was very interested in.&amp;nbsp; It speaks to my hearts desire to minister into the lives of those that are desirous of coming out of the life style.&amp;nbsp; I chatted with my husband about it, he was good with it, so I booked my ticket and made my reservations.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As time was approaching I was getting emails from Julie Carter.&amp;nbsp; She was coordinating all the the volunteers for the conference.&amp;nbsp; Thus I didn't think anything of it.&amp;nbsp; About five days prior to leaving for the conference I felt that I needed to connect with Julie to make sure that all the things that she was having me signed up to do would not interfere with my main purpose for going.&amp;nbsp; So, I emailed her.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;About a day later I got an email from Scott.&amp;nbsp; He had written me an email that I never received asking me if I minded not being used as a small group leader and being a volunteer instead.&amp;nbsp; Since he thought I was good with this he gave my name to Julie and all she knew was that I was a willing volunteer.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Had I found this out sooner I would have not gone to the conference and would have cancelled my tickets and reservations.&amp;nbsp; I could have gotten a full refund.&amp;nbsp; Since I did find out just a few days prior to leaving I was all committed to going and could not see cancelling.&amp;nbsp; So I went.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;One hurdle that I had to overcome was that fact that I was arriving so late.&amp;nbsp; The conference started at 7pm on Tuesday and I didn't even get into O&amp;rsquo;Hare until 9 pm.&amp;nbsp; Then I had to find my way to some kind of transportation to make my way to Wheaten  College.&amp;nbsp; Upon arriving I did manage to get a taxi who had already been to the campus a few other times that day.&amp;nbsp; We had a nice chat while driving and in short order found the college.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;We pulled up to one area but it didn't look quite right so I had the driver go back a block and up the previous street.&amp;nbsp; As soon as we turned around we began to see Exodus signs.&amp;nbsp; We followed the signs and at the next corner I told the drive that he could stop and let me out.&amp;nbsp; Rather than stopping he turned the corner and again I said to please stop and let me out.&amp;nbsp; Again he continued on and pulled forward another 100 feet or so and finally let me out.&amp;nbsp; I paid him and thanked him and turned around to get my bearings.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Well I wasn't sure where to go so I immediately went to the side walk and saw a few people walking so I walked up to a woman and asked.&amp;nbsp; She was headed in the same direction as the check in table and was glad to show me the way.&amp;nbsp; So I casually asked her how she came to find herself at the conference.&amp;nbsp; That began a new friendship that continued the fullness of the week.&amp;nbsp; My new friend had come alone and had been struggling alone for many years.&amp;nbsp; She is married and only recently shared her struggle with her husband.&amp;nbsp; Her husband was supportive and she came with great hope and expectation but also with many reservations.&amp;nbsp; She had asked the Lord to help her and He did.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I find it amazing that my taxi driver had to drive forward two more times before letting me out of the taxi.&amp;nbsp; If he had not, then I would have been behind my new friend and would not have walked to her for directions, I would have gone to another.&amp;nbsp; God is so good.&amp;nbsp; Meeting my new friend was apart of many divine appointments that I had during the course of that week.&amp;nbsp; God is so faithful and loving.&amp;nbsp; I was so blessed to be a part of that conference experience.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/reflections-exodus-conference-july09-gods-sne"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/8800498614631763746/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/8800498614631763746" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/8800498614631763746" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/8800498614631763746" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/07/reflections-exodus-conference-july09_30.html" rel="alternate" title="Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - Gods Sneaky or Divine Appointments" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-4576041997446441686</id><published>2009-07-29T06:59:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-29T06:59:21.162-07:00</updated><title type="text">Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - God has/is Compensating Me</title><content type="html">
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  Normal 0   false false false        MicrosoftInternetExplorer4     &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;        &lt;p&gt;I had the privilege of attending two workshops given by Sy Rogers.&amp;nbsp; He also did one of the general sessions.&amp;nbsp; I had heard of him for years but had never been exposed to his teachings.&amp;nbsp; They were amazing and he is truly a blessing to the body of Christ and a glory to Jesus.&amp;nbsp; In the workshop sessions Sy was talking about the 9 factors he has discovered that cause sexual relational problems to develop.&amp;nbsp; He also has another teaching of the 9 principles of redeeming our sexuality.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As I sat through all his sessions I was amazed at how he was describing all the things that God has taken me through in my journey with Jesus.&amp;nbsp; I could not have produced this teaching but I have personally experienced each thing Sy identified both in the area of the development of my sexual relational struggles and how God has redeemed my sexuality.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;One of the 9 principles that Sy talks about is forgiveness.&amp;nbsp; This was not new to me but what was new was the idea that our need for justice demands that we receive compensation.&amp;nbsp; Thus when we choose to forgive someone, we are saying in reality, "I will not require you to pay your debt to me."&amp;nbsp; When we do forgive we go to Jesus and leave the Justice up to Him.&amp;nbsp; He will bring us the proper compensation as we forgive those who should really owe us compensation.&amp;nbsp; In God sweet way He will bring about His compensation for the losses that we have received.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As I have reflected upon this it has brought to mind this personal example in my own life with Him.&amp;nbsp; I grew up a wild child, at least that is what it felt like.&amp;nbsp; Not that I was a wild child but that my parents, trying their best, left us alone much of the time.&amp;nbsp; They did the best they could and to their credit I knew that I was loved and belonged to my family.&amp;nbsp; There were many things missing in my growing up life and one of those areas was related to school and being involved in activities through school supported, encouraged, and guided by my parents.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As I have grown older, found much healing in Jesus, and now have my own family, I'm finding that God is redeeming those lost years in a profound way.&amp;nbsp; I have five children and Karl and I go to every function at school for all of my children.&amp;nbsp; We happen to be on the school campus a lot.&amp;nbsp; Actually I don't think that there is ever a function at school that does not involve us because we have so many, at least it feels that way.&amp;nbsp; One of the first things that the Lord gave me, as compensation, was a special first year of Transitional Kindergarten with my oldest son, Quinton.&amp;nbsp; That first year of school I was allowed to join the classroom every Friday.&amp;nbsp; My 2nd son Julian was allowed to come with me, which made this possible.&amp;nbsp; He was mature enough to sit in the class room and not be disruptive.&amp;nbsp; Thus for a full year, I got to be involved in Quinton's class room, go on all the field trips, get to know all of his classmates, watch both sons grow in this environment, and I also got to know many of the parents on a first name basis.&amp;nbsp; I had so much fun that year.&amp;nbsp; I thought that this was how school was supposed to be.&amp;nbsp; The next year I found out that it is not.&amp;nbsp; I had another child which changed the dynamics of my family.&amp;nbsp; In fact, I have never had another year like my first one.&amp;nbsp; This was such a blessing to me.&amp;nbsp; this gave me such encouragement and hope for my own family.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Along those same lines there are many school assemblies and school programs that are put on for the parents by the children.&amp;nbsp; As I have attended those assemblies, I would always cry as God has ministered to me.&amp;nbsp; Even though I go to those assemblies for my children, God has used them to bring me compensation for the losses that I experienced in my own life.&amp;nbsp; When we moved to MT and my children began attending Valley Christian School God seemed to move me more profoundly.&amp;nbsp; With each assembly and each year I would just sit there and weep, weep, weep.&amp;nbsp; You would think that I would remember the tissues, but I never did.&amp;nbsp; There I would be again, eyes tearing, nose running, hands wiping, me sniffling.&amp;nbsp; It was a messy scene.&amp;nbsp; My husband would often times notice, look at me with a gentle smile, perhaps run my arm or shoulder.&amp;nbsp; What a comfort God was being to me and for me, all while I was doing what I believed to be best for my own children.&amp;nbsp; There did come a day when the weeping subsided.&amp;nbsp; It took many years but most of the time now I can go to a school function and enjoy the moment with my children knowing that I no longer feel those losses.&amp;nbsp; I'm sure there will be more things in the future.&amp;nbsp; God has given me a daughter and we love being the "girls."&amp;nbsp; I believe that God will continue redeeming my losses and compensating me through Maylah Rose as she grows in her life.&amp;nbsp; There was so much I did not experience growing up as I rejected my own femininity.&amp;nbsp; This is not a problem for Maylah.&amp;nbsp; She is all girl and rough and tumble.&amp;nbsp; She loves being a girl, thinks it is uniquely special, that the boys are missing out because they are not girls, and we have our own little girls club.&amp;nbsp; She does love her brothers while fully embracing the reality that God has made her a girl and will soon grow her into a woman.&amp;nbsp; Many things to look forward to.&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/reflections-exodus-conference-july09-god-hasi"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/4576041997446441686/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/4576041997446441686" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/4576041997446441686" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/4576041997446441686" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/07/reflections-exodus-conference-july09_29.html" rel="alternate" title="Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - God has/is Compensating Me" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-6731643707303028366</id><published>2009-07-28T16:36:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-28T16:36:27.457-07:00</updated><title type="text">Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - What if it is not a choice?  What if it is not inborn?</title><content type="html">
&lt;p&gt;Along the same lines as the previous post I also need to broaden my discussion of the way I share about choice.&amp;nbsp; As I have had opportunity to speak about my journey and the issue of homosexuality I have not been clear enough about how I believe that choice is involved.&amp;nbsp; Because the issue is so highly energized, as soon as I use the word "choice" I'm sure that I have turned off many listeners who might otherwise have continued to listen.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I need to do a better job about being clear regarding the feelings that one experiences.&amp;nbsp; No one ever wakes up one morning and says, "gee, I think today is the day that I will be gay."&amp;nbsp; What happens is a process of self discovery of the reality that feelings for a member of the same sex exist and are compelling.&amp;nbsp; Much time effort and energy will already have been spent struggling with what these feelings are, why they exist, and what can be done about them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As I have listened to many of the speakers at the conference and continue to do more reading since my return regarding the types of things that can contribute to same sex feelings I have come to realize that although choice in behavior is definately a huge part of the journey either toward homosexuality or away from it; a distinction must be clearly made that the existance of the feelings was not a choice.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;For me, perhaps because I carried these feelings around inside of me for a long time before I ever made a decision to act upon them, I can see&amp;nbsp; so clearly how my own choices have been involved in the direction of my life.&amp;nbsp; In the same way, after accpeting Jesus as my Lord and Savior, I would have remained in a gay identity and lifestyle, had He not called me out of it.&amp;nbsp; For me again it was a clear choice.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;What wasn't a choice was the reality that the attractions existed within me, that the struggles remained after my choice to follow Him and leave behind the life I knew (no matter what that meant to me).&amp;nbsp; Now in time, after 20 years of marriage, five children, and a life of choosing differnt behaviors I can say that the struggle has subsided and the longings for same sex relationships is being met in Godly ways.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;So what of the choice issue?&amp;nbsp; Choice is definately a key part in the direction that you head in life but the reality of discovering a set of feelings that are complelling towards members of the same sex not only need to be recongnized but they need to be acknowledged in all discussions regarding the issue of homosexuality.&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/reflections-exodus-conference-july09-what-if"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/6731643707303028366/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/6731643707303028366" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/6731643707303028366" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/6731643707303028366" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/07/reflections-exodus-conference-july09_4769.html" rel="alternate" title="Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - What if it is not a choice?  What if it is not inborn?" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-1469432050309826926</id><published>2009-07-28T06:43:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-28T06:43:31.422-07:00</updated><title type="text">Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - Beyond My Own Journey</title><content type="html">
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  Normal 0   false false false        MicrosoftInternetExplorer4     &lt;object classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D"&gt;  &lt;/object&gt;      &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;        &lt;p&gt;I have been speaking publically about my journey with God almost since the beginning when I became a believer back in 1984.&amp;nbsp; I think the first time I actually shared with anyone, in a public setting, that God had pursued me, healed me, changed me, and called me out of the life style into a life fully devoted to Him was around 1988/9.&amp;nbsp; The setting was in my church at the time, Green Valley Christian Church.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Since I moved from CA to MT I have also had opportunity to go into the local high schools in Missoula, MT.&amp;nbsp; This came about through a series of God appointed meetings but I accepted the opportunity with great joy.&amp;nbsp; I have now been to Big Sky High School on three seperate occasions and Hellgate High on two occasions.&amp;nbsp; I am usually billed, by my own doing, as speaking from an ex gay perspective.&amp;nbsp; I have always (except my last time at Big Sky High School in 2009) been placed on a panel with at least one other pro gay speaker but it is usually 2 to 4 other panel members.&amp;nbsp; The broadest panel had five people all together.&amp;nbsp; There was one young man billed as having grown up in a lesbian household, one woman who was billed as a lesbian, another woman who was billed as a bi sexual (who happened to currently be married to a man to raise her twin children), and one man billed as a gay man (who also happened to run a non profit in MT to educate the public about the normalcy of gay life).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;While I have personally never minded being billed as an ex gay, because it helps my audience to understand that I was gay and now I am not, the Exodus Movement has moved completely away from the ex gay label.&amp;nbsp; They felt that this label was to confining and did not reflect well the transformation going on in the lives of those people who have accepted Christ as Lord.&amp;nbsp; Of late, the Exodus Movement has been struggling with how to define themselves.&amp;nbsp; The issue for this movement is not ex gay or gay vs straight but Holiness.&amp;nbsp; They are having an discussion about the term Post Gay because it does speak to a paradym shift.&amp;nbsp; Post gay can also encompus having moved beyond gay dogma but does not mean into a life with Jesus.&amp;nbsp; More about Post Gay in another post.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I was having a hard time with this new position because I felt that it was side stepping the whole issue of healing and change that I have personally experienced in my own life with Jesus.&amp;nbsp; I felt also that talking about Holiness and not total healing was doing a disservice to those looking for freedom.&amp;nbsp; Although I understood their rational for moving away from ex gay , I did not embrace this new place.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;After having been to the conference I do now have a fuller understanding about why the move away from ex gay to something beyond it.&amp;nbsp; Although my story in and of itself is amazing and is valid and also happens for others, it does not encompass everyone&amp;rsquo;s story and personal experience.&amp;nbsp; There are other people who have been walking with Christ who have not found freedom from the struggle or the pull of the old behaviors and yet they are trusting in Him and are not willing to concede and go back into the life style.&amp;nbsp; They have changed their identification from "gay" to being defined in Him, even if they continue to struggle with temptation.&amp;nbsp; There are also others who have never "gay"&amp;nbsp;identified, have and still are walking with Him and yet struggle with same sex attraction.&amp;nbsp; There are also others who have their own unique issue and circumstance but remain in Him.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The thing that helped me to best understand this movement by Exodus was a statement made during one of the workshops that I attended.&amp;nbsp; The root issue for all people is not gay or straight.&amp;nbsp; People do not go to hell for being gay, many straight people go to hell.&amp;nbsp; The issue is sin, only those who have received Jesus as Lord and Savior will go to heaven, regardless of what their particular struggles on this earth happen to be.&amp;nbsp; The issue is;&amp;nbsp; which direction are you moving?&amp;nbsp; towards Jesus or away.&amp;nbsp; Are you gaining ground in Knowing Him or are you resisting and walking in your own understanding.&amp;nbsp; The issue is Holiness, being set apart for His purposes.&amp;nbsp; In fact we know from Ephesians that God has created good works in advance for us to walk in, are we walking in them?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;So, although I will keep sharing my story of redemption in Jesus, as I speak to this issue in a public forum I will change how I frame the issue.&amp;nbsp; It is not gay vs straight.&amp;nbsp; It is about the direction you are headed.&amp;nbsp; Sy Rogers makes this comment during his workshops:&amp;nbsp; "God did not tell me not to be gay, He said, "Stop Resisting Me!"&amp;nbsp; I guess that really is it in a nutshell.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/reflections-exodus-conference-july09-beyond-m"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/1469432050309826926/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/1469432050309826926" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/1469432050309826926" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/1469432050309826926" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/07/reflections-exodus-conference-july09_28.html" rel="alternate" title="Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - Beyond My Own Journey" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-1925131101242724289</id><published>2009-07-27T21:24:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-27T21:24:25.823-07:00</updated><title type="text">Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - Current Financial Struggle</title><content type="html">
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  Normal 0   false false false        MicrosoftInternetExplorer4     &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;        &lt;p&gt;I was excited to come to the conference for a number of reasons but one of them was totally unrelated to this area of sexual brokenness, healing, or otherwise.&amp;nbsp; I was just relieved, for the moment to be out from underneath my current financial pressures.&amp;nbsp; Where I came&amp;nbsp; and was open to God working and moving in anyway He saw fit, I did not expect for God to address my current financial situation.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I listened as speaker after speaker talked of the reality of the time that it takes to overcome the pull that our past sexual lives have over us.&amp;nbsp; I know this first hand myself from my own journey with God then length of time it has taken for God to not only forgive me but give me the fullness of freedom that I experience today.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Each speaker kept putting reframing the struggle in the lives of the people who came to this conference in light of both the years spent in a place of sexual sin but also in light of eternity itself.&amp;nbsp; Why would we expect to spend just a moment of struggle to over turn often times many years in a place of sexual sin.&amp;nbsp; Why would we also through away our opportunity with God just because he does not give us the fullness of freedom we desire in a moment when in light of eternity with Him these struggles are really only momentary like it says often in the book of 1 Peter.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As I kept listening to this reframing of perspective God began bringing to mind to me my attitude of "why me, poor me, I didn't choose this place, you brought me to this place, why can't an all powerful God just change my circumstances in my finances and let me alone, doesn't He love me, etc.?"&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Now I was not actively voicing these things to God but I was pondering them and it is impacting my ability to find joy in the circumstances that I am in.&amp;nbsp; It had not occurred to me to apply what I have learned from His leading me out of a place of sexual brokenness and confusion to this area of my life.&amp;nbsp; There were so many things that I have learned from the journey out of the lifestyle that have given me tools to continue to use in that area as I come across temptation that I would not trade that journey for anything.&amp;nbsp; I just wanted the easy way out.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Thus I have accepted and continue to accept this place that I find myself in.&amp;nbsp; As I continue to be weak and struggle with the reality of this difficult financial place, I will continue to invite God into this place that I would draw ever nearer to Him.&amp;nbsp; That is my desire to know Him more intimately and if this is the road that will bring that about then this is the road that I will continue to walk on.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/reflections-exodus-conference-july09-current"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/1925131101242724289/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/1925131101242724289" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/1925131101242724289" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/1925131101242724289" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/07/reflections-exodus-conference-july09_27.html" rel="alternate" title="Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - Current Financial Struggle" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-354298211501387618</id><published>2009-07-26T19:49:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-02-05T11:09:03.903-08:00</updated><title type="text">Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - My Need For Him (Karl)</title><content type="html">&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;       &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;        &lt;p&gt;Well this was an interesting thing that the Lord did for me during the conference.  One evening at the general session I was looking out at the body of people assembled, praying and worshiping the King.  I was moved by the passion of those men in this body that give all to strive towards Jesus even in the midst of their struggles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;We had listened to a testimony from a couple who had overcome many things, both met the Lord after many years of persecution and confusion.  They spoke their testimony in harmony and in rhythm.  I was impressed with each of their stories and how God intertwined them together.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As I worshiped, the Lord impressed upon me just how much women need men to be men so that we also know who we are.  Not that we cannot find ourselves apart from them.  It was a precious moment as I watched these men worship.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The next morning I attended devotions.  It was lead by a man whom I do not have the name of but as He was leading us through this devotion using many scriptures from the Word God spoke to me again.  He said to me, "This is a man, as I define him.  He is a man as He fulfills his life of knowing Me, and lives a life devoted to me."  I was struck by how God was showing me this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The next day I was again worshiping in the general session and God again spoke to me.  He said this what I have shown you is your need.  You need your husband to be who I have created him to be.  Do not deny this need, I have created it in you and it is good.  Only your husband can meet this need as He continues to pursue Me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;It was a bit surprising to me that God would say this to me.  I have been married for over 20 years.  We have five children together.  I could not carry my life without my husband, of course I need him.  I continued to ponder what God had shown me and spoke to me.  As I thought and prayed I reflected on Adam and Eve in the garden.  Eve was created out of Adam by God as a helpmate suitable for him.  I kept asking God to help me see just what I was supposed to get.  By the end of the conference this is what I believe God was speaking to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In my life with my husband I was not denying my need for him.  In fact, when the Lord asked me to follow Him and be devoted only to Him and to leave the gay lifestyle behind, I asked Him to bring me a husband and teach me how to love and trust Him.  What I did not realize until now is that, although I did not deny this need, I did not embrace it.  To embrace this need would be to admit that I am dependent upon my husband for something that I could not give to myself.  It also meant in the greater sense that I needed God.  God so gently showed me my own need and also showed me how I had yet to accept this part of who he made me.  I am female, taken out of male, created by God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;I believe that God creates all women with this need and as He calls us, each individually into marriage, this need is further recognized, met and fulfilled.  Only those whom He calls into a life of celibacy and fully devoted to Him does He meet this need in His daughters alone.  So my prayer is that the Lord will continue to help me embrace my need for my husband and to embrace it with the fullest joy, even knowing that my husband is not perfect. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com/"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/reflections-exodus-conference-july09-my-need"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/354298211501387618/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/354298211501387618" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/354298211501387618" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/354298211501387618" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/07/reflections-exodus-conference-july09-my.html" rel="alternate" title="Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - My Need For Him (Karl)" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-8406477718886509013</id><published>2009-07-26T19:06:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-26T19:06:14.234-07:00</updated><title type="text">Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - General</title><content type="html">
&lt;p&gt;I attended my first Exodus Conference this past July and I have several reflections that I want to share.&amp;nbsp; I will post these individually for clarity.&amp;nbsp; I went to the conference with no preconcieved plan or agenda.&amp;nbsp; I was open to what the Lord had for me.&amp;nbsp; I hope that what I share will bless you as it has bless me.&amp;nbsp; In general it was a great blessing to have met so many wonderful people.&amp;nbsp; From the moment I stepped out of the taxi to the moment my sister arrived to pick me up was a wave of blessing as I met and got to know person after person.&amp;nbsp; My new friends have broadened my perspective and have increased my understanding of God's grace in my life.&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p style="font-size: 10px;"&gt;  &lt;a href="http://posterous.com"&gt;Posted via web&lt;/a&gt;   from &lt;a href="http://jenniferthorne.posterous.com/reflections-exodus-conference-july09-general"&gt;jenniferthorne's posterous&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;    </content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/8406477718886509013/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/8406477718886509013" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/8406477718886509013" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/8406477718886509013" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/07/reflections-exodus-conference-july09.html" rel="alternate" title="Reflections - Exodus Conference July09 - General" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-6533193066517063248</id><published>2009-03-06T09:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-03-06T09:58:17.752-08:00</updated><title type="text">Identity is everything</title><content type="html">Who you think and believe yourself to be will impact everything you do in life for the good or not so good.  While in the lifestyle I identified myself as a lesbian and every thought in my life was associated with this truth I believed about myself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I gave my life to Jesus, He began to let me know just who I was now that I am His.  In 2 Corinthians 5:17 it says; "&lt;span style="color:#006600;"&gt;Therefore if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come&lt;/span&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is critical to your success in making the change from your past life to your new life in Christ.  As time moved forward for me and I began to learn more about who I now am in Christ I found a place to settle down in that is dear to me and speaks to my heart. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#660000;"&gt;I am a daughter of the King a daughter of the Most High God&lt;/span&gt;.  This is who I am and will continue to be and become more with each passing day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are many scriptures that help us to know just who we are in Christ.  I've pulled a few together for you.  Jesus will speak to you and help you to grow in Him so that you to will find the fullness of your identity in Him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who I Am In Christ&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am accepted...&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1:12&amp;amp;version=49"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am God's child. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1:12&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;John 1:12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a disciple, I am a friend of Jesus Christ. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+15:15&amp;amp;version=31"&gt;John 15:15 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been justified.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5:1&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Romans 5:1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am united with the Lord, and I am one with Him in spirit.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6:17&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;1 Corinthians 6:17&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been bought with a price and I belong to God.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6:19-20&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;1 Corinthians 6:19-20&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am a member of Christ's body.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12:27&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;1 Corinthians 12:27&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been chosen by God and adopted as His child.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+1:3-8&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Ephesians 1:3-8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been redeemed and forgiven of all my sins.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1:13-14&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Colossians 1:13-14&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am complete in Christ.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+2:9-10&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Colossians 2:9-10&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have direct access to the throne of grace through Jesus Christ.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+4:14-16&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Hebrews 4:14-16&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I am secure...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am free from condemnation.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8:1-2&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Romans 8:1-2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am assured that God works for my good in all circumstances.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8:28&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Romans 8:28&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am free from any condemnation brought against me and I cannot be separated from the love of God.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8:31-39&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Romans 8:31-39&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been established, anointed and sealed by God.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+1:21-22&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;2 Corinthians 1:21-22&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am hidden with Christ in God.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+3:1-4&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Colossians 3:1-4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am confident that God will complete the good work He started in me.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+1:6&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Philippians 1:6&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am a citizen of heaven.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+3:20&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Philippians 3:20&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have not been given a spirit of fear but of power, love and a sound mind.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+1:7&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;2 Timothy 1:7&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am born of God and the evil one cannot touch me.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+5:18&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;1 John 5:18&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am significant...&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+15:5&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;John 15:5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am a branch of Jesus Christ, the true vine, and a channel of His life.&lt;br /&gt;I have been chosen and appointed to bear fruit.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+15:16&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;John 15:16&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am God's temple.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+3:16&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;1 Corinthians 3:16&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am a minister of reconciliation for God.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5:17-21&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;2 Corinthians 5:17-21&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am seated with Jesus Christ in the heavenly realm.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2:6&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Ephesians 2:6&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am God's workmanship.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2:10&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Ephesians 2:10&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I may approach God with freedom and confidence.&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+3:12&amp;amp;version=49"&gt;Ephesians 3:12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+4:13&amp;amp;version=50"&gt;Philippians 4:13 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The more you reaffirm who you are in Christ, the more your behavior will begin to reflect your true identity!"</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/6533193066517063248/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/6533193066517063248" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/6533193066517063248" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/6533193066517063248" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2009/03/identity-is-everything.html" rel="alternate" title="Identity is everything" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-8933939654843145557</id><published>2008-03-13T09:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-13T10:41:20.249-07:00</updated><title type="text">A Community of Love</title><content type="html">You may have read my last four part email on drawing nearer to Jesus and leaving behind the life style and still find yourself struggling.  This is normal for any person in their life in Christ.  Although Jesus can &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;miraculously&lt;/span&gt; heal you, often times He does not.  This may seem hard to believe and somewhat harsh on the surface.  Let me &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;encourage&lt;/span&gt; you.  There is joy in the journey. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Often times there are jewels, blessings, and nuggets of wisdom that we would miss if Jesus did heal everyone all the time the first time that they ask.  Our relationship with Him is not about us but about Him.  This is a hard concept for us to understand.  Our purpose, our main purpose is to glorify God in Christ.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One other aspect that God worked in my life was providing for me a loving body of believers that I was able to share my struggles with.  This is very important in helping you to be successful in moving closer to Him and leave behind behaviors that do not glorify Him or bless you.   These women loved me when I made good choices and also bad choices.  The point is that they always were willing to listen to me, pray with me, encourage me, and to shoot straight with me. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now you cannot do this with everyone you know in the church that you attend.  You need to find two or three people of the same sex who are able to do this with you.  You can start by going to your pastor and asking for a few recommendations.  Then you can connect with these folks and meet with them.  You will need to be honest with them about what you are struggling with and what you need for them to do in this relationship.  Then give them an opportunity to pray about being an accountability partner.  If they are willing then you are well on your way.  Some of the things that I had with my accountability partners were:  regular prayer, I created specific requests &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;for them&lt;/span&gt; to pray for, permission to contact them when I was becoming overwhelmed to help me through a tough moment, met with them regularly (weekly or bi weekly, and they had permission to call me on my stuff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a broader sense besides and beyond these accountability partners I also actively participated in the regular workings of my church.  This helped me to be exposed to good encouraging relationships where I didn't feel like I was in a test tube.  I was just another member of the church wanting to help out as my time and schedule allowed.  I s&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;howed&lt;/span&gt; up on church work days, I helped in the nursery, I joined the church softball team, I went to potlucks, etc when they were open to the church.  All these things contributed to my success in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;coming&lt;/span&gt; out of the life style.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the time that all this was going on I didn't know any specific scriptures that said that this was good to do.  Now after over 20 years being an active member of a church and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;studying&lt;/span&gt; the bible actively in my life I now know that the Holy Spirit was leading me into all of this because it is what the church is about.  I can now share with you lots of scriptures that you can look up on your own to bless and encourage you (James 15:16, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Galatians&lt;/span&gt; 6:1-2, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Eph&lt;/span&gt; 4, etc).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do want to leave you with one encouraging verse from &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Matthew&lt;/span&gt; 19:27-31 &amp;amp; Luke 18:28-30 &amp;amp; Mark 10:29-31.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever you give up for the Lord, whatever life you leave for Him will be a sacrifice but you will gain 100 fold in this life and also gain eternal life but also bear in mind that you will also have persecutions. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mark 10:29-31&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or farms, for My sake and for the gospel's sake, but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life.&lt;br /&gt; "But many who are first will be last, and the last, first."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you leave the life style with all it's ways you will discover a new life of relationships that you could not have imagined.  This has been my personal experience.  I have women and men who have become dear friends to me.  I have and continue to have more people that are a blessing to me and I to them.  All this because I was willing to answer the call of Jesus after two years of leaving all behind to follow Him.  I do not regret one thing.  Yes there has been &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;persecution&lt;/span&gt; and continues to be especially as I continue to share the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;story&lt;/span&gt; of Jesus transforming power in my life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope that you are encouraged even if you may also be frustrated with how long you have been struggling.  Continue to listen to the Holy Spirits &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;leadings&lt;/span&gt; in your life.  The Lord bless you and I bless you.  Amen</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/8933939654843145557/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/8933939654843145557" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/8933939654843145557" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/8933939654843145557" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2008/03/community-of-love.html" rel="alternate" title="A Community of Love" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-77357269738690546</id><published>2008-03-10T19:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-10T19:18:35.553-07:00</updated><title type="text">Love that surpasses Knowledge - Conclusion</title><content type="html">This closing benediction is an amazing Truth that should be dwelt upon, often, until it is so much apart of you that it permeates all that you do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#009900;"&gt;Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus can do more than we can even imagine. Can you take that in? He can and not only that He wants to. God has chosen to work in and through us to share the message of salvation with those that have not heard. Even though we are feeble, self centered, easily distracted, and often times poorly represent Him. He still chooses to work through His Church. That is you and I. Knowing how slow I am to grow in Him and yet He is willing to risk all to allow me to be a part of building His church. I am humbled when I stop and take a moment to reflect upon this Truth. Now, Jesus is not a fool, He would not risk all and not empower me to be able to fulfill this task. His power comes to me and through me from His Spirit. He said in John that when He goes away He will send His Spirit that will lead me into all Truth (John 16:13).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know how you have struggled and do not think that a single struggle has been wasted. He knows, and He continues to pursue you. He will help you, He will heal you, He will change you, and He will most assuredly call you out of the life style and into a divine dance with Himself that will spill over and touch many others through you. Hang in there the best is yet to come.</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/77357269738690546/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/77357269738690546" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/77357269738690546" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/77357269738690546" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2008/03/love-that-surpasses-knowledge.html" rel="alternate" title="Love that surpasses Knowledge - Conclusion" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7162336770127968106.post-2185163918291726240</id><published>2008-03-10T09:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-10T10:46:43.695-07:00</updated><title type="text">Love that surpasses Knowledge – Part 2</title><content type="html">I want to look at Jesus' part now. This is the Ephesians 3;14-21. Here it is in its entirety.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#009900;"&gt;For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name. I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#009900;"&gt;Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This section of scripture has lots of great stuff in it that we could take a look at but I want to focus on one verse in particular. That is verse 19. Verse 19 says that His love for us surpasses knowledge. I just love this part. There is something that Jesus does in our lives that is beyond our own knowledge. Now this may seem like a "da". But for me this was a light bulb moment when I saw this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me everything that I know and everything that I am is always limited by my mind. If in my mind I don’t believe it then it isn't  true for me (even if in reality it is true). To know that God’s love for me is not limited by my mind and thus my knowledge is huge for me. His love goes beyond my mind and is also not limited to my mind. At the same time He will employ my mind to get to know and understand Him (Romans 12:2).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are times when Jesus has done things in me and for me that have gone beyond my understanding to grasp them and yet He has done them anyway and I have realized them in my life. In the first two years of my relationship with Him, while I was stilling living with my last lover He changed two things inside of me. He taught me that I was lovable just as He created me. I had spent my whole life pushing away everything about me that was feminine. I didn't want to be a man but I didn't want to be a victim either. To me, anything feminine was a risk of being victimized.  I would also build up every thing I could about me to make me more strong, more man like. Growing up I modeled myself not after my mom, but after my dad. I watched  everything he did and copied it. I believe in my heart that if I was strong I could not be taken advantage of by men. Now I enjoy my freedom as a woman, fully feminine, fully loved. I still am learning and growing into my whole self. I'm having a blast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He also showed me and took away my fear of rejection. I had absolutely no social skills as a young girl or woman. I could not talk to you unless you had something that I needed. The only thing that gave me some relief was booze and drugs. At least I didn't feel the pain of rejection while medicated and I was more social under the influence. After Jesus showed me my fear of rejection he then set me to the task of learning how to be more social. As I began practicing being more social He showed me the beauty He has placed in each person that I was willing to take the risk and talk to. I learned very quickly that we, the crown of His creation, are housing the very image of God Himself. If I wanted to know Him there was a way to see Him in all people. He is most creative and wonderful and the beauty that I've been exposed to through all these successive years has been amazing. I &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;did no&lt;/span&gt;t ask Him to do these things. In fact I &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;did no&lt;/span&gt;t even know that I had lived with a fear of rejection all my life and that it colored everything that I did. But He changed me any way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I cannot explain to you how He did these things I can only tell you that I now live a life loving who I am, just as He made me. I also now live a life where the fear of rejection is rarely an issue for me. I now enjoy the opportunity to move freely in my life and get to know others and see the beauty that they are. Such a peace and freedom this has given to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a whole bunch more that you can get out of the verses above. You could camp there for days and continue to gain new insight and understanding that will bless you and change you. I do want to close this long blog by focusing on the last few lines of scripture from this set.</content><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/feeds/2185163918291726240/comments/default" rel="replies" title="Post Comments" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/7162336770127968106/2185163918291726240" rel="replies" title="0 Comments" type="text/html"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/2185163918291726240" rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7162336770127968106/posts/default/2185163918291726240" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml"/><link href="http://jenschatonthat.blogspot.com/2008/03/love-that-surpasses-knowledge-part-2.html" rel="alternate" title="Love that surpasses Knowledge – Part 2" type="text/html"/><author><name>Jen Thorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06405882510518432243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image height="32" rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLTbQLfSrvdETQTlYwCcuUTXBB-2E2LOZQaJymufyAo-hSBDhcho5R5lv2XCSsJPYZdBr_KAOs2N00KHcaTuMDkIEBWh9gGy4KI_ml1CQUTx1wKnCBTQuz0TFtr3v3h7s/s151/CIMG2380%5B1%5D.JPG" width="32"/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>