Latina Lista: Comments

Comment on "The memory of Marcelo's death still horrifies but the atmosphere that created it still exists"

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:54:24 -0600

Any free speech on a controversial issue is likely to incite someone in this country of more than 300 million to do violence. There are hate groups that need little provocation do so, even Hispanic. Should we silence those who have honorable motives but disagree with us because it might make someone upset enough to do harm? The right to free speech comes with the inherent risk of inciting violence, no matter how much effort is done to avoid it. Free speech is just one of our liberties that give evil the opportunity to do bad as well as the angelic to do good. That is the sacrifice of being an open society with the freedoms we have.

- Juan

Comment on "The Congressional Hispanic Caucus took the right stand on threatening to withhold healthcare votes"

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:07:09 -0600

Thank you for covering this issue. I haven't read about it anywhere else. I think it's IMMORAL not to let undocumented people purchase private health insurance if they so choose. I thought conservatives were in favor of the free market.

I am glad that the Hispanic Caucus has taken a stand on this issue, and I am sorry that Obama has not shown more (any) fortitude.

I am so tired of undocumented people being dehumanized just because they are poor and in need of work. Really, because they are indigenous. That's at the root of it. They're here in such big numbers because of our own policies, specifically NAFTA.

- karen

Comment on "The Congressional Hispanic Caucus took the right stand on threatening to withhold healthcare votes"

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:07:49 -0600

There is nothing mean spirited about the legislation. Illegal immigrants are not supposed to be here in the first place, there should be no incentive for them to stay here.

People who break the law should not be rewarded with health care, they already get so much as it is.

- Beast

Comment on "The Congressional Hispanic Caucus took the right stand on threatening to withhold healthcare votes"

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:11:29 -0600

They did the right thing? They will no doubt be selfishly responsible for the citizens of this country from not getting health care legislation passed, and for this they generate the enmity of the rest of the nation for Hispanics. Good work, NOT! Just think of it, if that is the last chance for citizens the Hispanic populatoin will be held responsible for decades. Do you really think that will help CIR? This is a good an idea as boycotting the Census. Great idea? I should say not!

- Carlos

Comment on "The memory of Marcelo's death still horrifies but the atmosphere that created it still exists"

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:27:29 -0600

The constitution says that ALL people should be counted in the census. Plus it makes no sense to omit 20 million people from the count, as they use schools, roads, etc and governmetns can't plan ahead if they don't know how many people are actually here.

Also, states that have large illegal immigrants poulations should get their fair share of money from the federal government. The whole country profits from illegal immigrant labor, but only the border states have to subsidize their healthcare, education, use of infrastructure, etc. It's not fair!

As for Dobbs, he is allowed to hold any opinion of immigration he wants, but he takes it a step further and scapegoats illegal immigrants for the economic crisis that was caused by greedy NYC crooks on Wall St. The owners of CNN are pushing that agenda.

Dobbs is a liar, saying that immigrants are plotting to takeover the country and that they have leprosy. Those lies are broadcast all over the world.

I think that anybody who appears on Lou Dobbs should be boycotted too.

- Karen

Comment on "Low Latino voter turnout in NJ and VA elections reveal a return to the old ways "

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:47:42 -0600

Karen, so it is "us" vs "them" in your book? "Hispanics" vs "Anglos"? Rather than to hell with race/ethnicity because we are all Americans we should only be happy if "one of our own" is elected or appointed to public office? Sounds like that is your viewpoint from your post.

- cookie

Comment on "Free speech is hard to defend when it's being abused"

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:37:50 -0600

Karen, why does this have to be repeated over and over? Mexicans make up the majority of illegals in our country. They pour over our southern border by the thousands every day. That would explain the video footage of them doing this and not non-hispanic illegals. Where is this same situation occuring on our northern border or anywhere else? Dobbs isn't implying that all illegals are Mexican it is just that they are more visible and by far the majority of them.

There is a reconquista movement in this country so why shouldn't Dobbs mention it? Sure, it isn't on a large scale that we know of but it is newsworthy. Most of these reconquista types are American born of Mexican ancestry, not illegals. I have never heard Dobbs say that it is illegals from Mexico seeking to take over this country but let's face it many Mexicans in Mexico also feel that the southwest was stolen from them. How is reporting facts, racism?

Again, for the umpteenth time "illegal alien" is the proper government term for those in our country illegally. So those of us including Dobbs who use that proper term are racists? It has nothing to do with "no human being is illegal" because that implies that no human had a right to be born on this earth and that has nothing to do with a person's violation of a country's immigration laws. I swear your side is the biggest whiners and spinners of truth on the face of this earth! Why as an American citizen are you getting so worked up over illegal foreigners anyway? Nevermind I know the answer and they use to try Americans for treason for such mindsets. Too bad they don't do it anymore in today's PC world.

No one is a citizen of a continent or can lay claims to a whole continent no matter how long their ancestors have been here. We are all citizens of individual countries now.

The MM organization is not a hate group. They are a group of citizens who have dedicated their own time to patrol our borders and they only look through binoculars and report illegal entry to the Border Patrol. Sure there have been some members who were rotten apples but they don't reflect the idealogies of the entire group. Because there are some reconquistas in our country does that reflect the entire Latino community and make them all haters of white Americans? Of course not!

Illegal = an action not within the law.

Alien = a foreigner. It has two meanings. Why do you choose the one that indicates someone from outer space when clearly this isn't what alien means in the term "illegal alien"?

Speaking of low life trash, Geraldo comes to mind. Touche!

- cookie

Comment on "The memory of Marcelo's death still horrifies but the atmosphere that created it still exists"

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:34:37 -0600

Stop the IGNORANT HATE>

What would you see yourself as if you were looking thru the Eyes of Almighty GOD ?
BECAUSE,
How you Treat others is how God TREATS You.
How you Forgive others is how God FORGIVES You.
How you See others is how God SEEs You.

When you show Empathy for the plight of another HUMAN BEING, God takes empathy in YOUR PLIGHT.

When others slight you and you ignore the call to Vengeance that burns inside, God erases all memory of your failures towards him.

When you SEE THE IMAGE OF GOD in ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, Then the IMAGE of GOD Becomes REVEALED WITHIN YOU.

The way You Judge other HUMANS is HOW GOD Judges You.

All Humans are EQUAL, ALL Humans are created and are the same in Almighty GODS VISION.

What You wish for the other is what GOD Gives YOU.

Happiness keeps You Sweet,
Trials keep You Strong,
Sorrows keep You Human,
Life keeps You Humble,
Success keeps You Glowing ,
But Only God keeps You Going.

- Truth

Comment on "The memory of Marcelo's death still horrifies but the atmosphere that created it still exists"

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:10:18 -0600

It makes no sense whatsover to count anyone in our census who cannot vote. Only citizens can vote!

Where is your proof that Dobbs, etc. incite loony bins to commit crimes against Latinos? Where??? Was there a poll taken about this? Offering opinion as fact is basically dishonest!
Dobbs only speaks negatively about illegals not Latinos in general. Just because Latinos make up the majority of illegals should negative talk about illegal immigration be stifled because of some loony bins who probably don't even watch Dobbs and even if they did we are all responsible for our own actions!!

- cookie

Comment on "Free speech is hard to defend when it's being abused"

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:44:05 -0600

CNN is a business and we the viewers are its customers. We have every right to reject this product and to boycott its sponsors. Nobody is taking away Dobb's free speech. He has every right to stand on a street corner and say whatever he wants. Plus TV personalities are already censored by the advertisers and their bosses. They can't say whatever they want. Only what management approves.

Dobbs is a liar. He equates illegal immigration with Mexicans, even though not all Mexicans are illegal immigrants and not all illegal immigrants are Mexican. Why doesn't he ever show any white illegal immigrants? They exist. He just uses illegal immigrants as a pretext to bash Mexicans. CNN bosses are using Lou to distract everybody from the NYC Wall St crooks who have destoyedthe global economy.

Dobbs has also lied by saying that Mexicans are plotting to takeover the United States. He is projecting his own history onto Mexicans because it was white Americans who immigrated to Mexico in the 19th century and who actually took over part of Mexico.

Dobbs incessantly uses the term "illegal alien." No human being is an "alien." Mexicans are from North America, not from another planet. Plus they have been on this continent longer than Dobbs's ancestors. He is just trying to dehumanize Mexican people.

Dobbs has also used his show as a platform for The Minutemen and other hate groups.

Dobbs is low class trash. CNN has sanctioned this garbage and now they are in LAST place where they belong! Time Warner's stock is also dropping. Keep it up Lou and Jonathan Klein. You will bankrupt CNN.

- Karen

Comment on "Low Latino voter turnout in NJ and VA elections reveal a return to the old ways "

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:18:41 -0600

What difference does it make what color of skin or ethnicity that a politician is? Are you saying that most Latinos will only vote for a minority candidate who support amnesty for illegals? Isn't that kind of racist with a self-serving motive? I thought we Americans were supposed to be united regardless of party affiliation or skin color for the good of the country as a whole?

- cookie

Comment on "Low Latino voter turnout in NJ and VA elections reveal a return to the old ways "

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:00:59 -0600

Do you think the Obama Administration is is going to cultivate Mexican-American candidates? Dream on.

We have lost two seats since Obama's election: The Congressional seat held by Hilda Solis and the US senate seat held by Ken Salazar. Those seats were hard for us to win, and the White House didn't try to make sure that we kept them. They appointed a white man to Salazar's seat, even though Ken's brother was going to run for it, and they backed the non-Latino candidate in the race to replace Solis.

I would be curious to know how many Mexican-American appointees there are in the White House. They keep statistics on "Latinos" but that can be anybody. So far he hasn't appointed any Mexican-American judges.

What has Obama done for the economy of the Southwest? Nothing as far as I can see. Frankly, he's even weaker than I thought he would be, and I wish another Democrat would challenge him in 2012.

- karen

Comment on "Political cartoon portraying Sotomayor as a piñata is insensitive but deserves no rash judgements"

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:57:19 -0600

Cookie, I agree with you. It is likely that if Sotomayor has Asian features, then she has some Amerindian ancestry.

I am White and Amerindian and though I am a Spanish speaker, I don't like the term Latino because it is given a racial value that it does not have.

As a New World Mongoloid, I personally feel closer to the Cherokees or even Asians than to most other Spanish speakers. We just have very little in common usually, unless we happen to come from the same country and/or have the same ancestry.

- Victoria

Comment on "Low Latino voter turnout in NJ and VA elections reveal a return to the old ways "

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:43:13 -0600

Why should NJ or VA be expected to have a person of color as governor? According to the census, Virginia is comprised of 67 percent white/not Hispanic, 6.8 percent Latino and 19.9 percent African American, and New Jersey has 61 percent white/not Hispanic, 16.3 percent Latino and 14.5 percent African American. Such population distributions would naturally be inclined to favor Anglos. In each case, by using your concept of social justice, the governor would tend to be white. If the population distributions were skewed toward minorities, I'd say you might have a case, but I can find nothing to indicate that there is anything that is wrong with the current situation.

- Cary

Comment on "Low Latino voter turnout in NJ and VA elections reveal a return to the old ways "

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:27:21 -0600

"The fact that both candidates for governor who won were Anglo already illustrates that what was gained from the presidential campaigns has slipped away -- the inclusiveness of candidates of color which, in turn, generated enthusiasm, not just among voters of color, but young people who rightly see candidates of color as bringing change to a staid political system."

Could it be that it was because ALL the candidates for governor of Virginia and New Jersey were Anglo that it turned out that an Anglo won? The fact that none were minorities is not an excuse for not caring about the actual issues. It's very petty to boycott an election because the candidate doesn't have the same type of face you see in the mirror every day. I find your racial coloration of these elections very unfortunate. There's no reason why white governors can't do an excellent job at representing minorities anymore than a person of color can't do a good job at representing Anglos. Apparently, in the world you'd make, in order to have fair representation, we'd have to have three or four faces representing each racial and ethnic group,

- Beverly

Comment on "In these times, cities need to do more to help day laborers"

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:27:22 -0600

"Day laborer centers were created to help people come off the streets and have a safe place to connect with employers."

Since employing illegal aliens is a federal crime, I presume that as an honest citizen, you concur that they should be excluded from these centers, but then of course we wouldn't need such places, making my question a moot point.

- Alonzo

Comment on "Special Sunday Post: RNC Chairman Michael Steele's bizarre interview with Univision's Jorge Ramos "

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:00:11 -0600

Re: Jorge Ramos interview w/Michael Steele

Marisa, thanks for posting it...it`s laughable that jimma carter criticizes Chairman NObama because he`s black, but no mention that he`s also 50% white. NObama did deserve the nobel peace-nik prize, regardless of time in the presidency.
As a proud, ego-driven RINO, it`s no surprise that olympia snowe, is a pro-NObama, pro-pelosi, healthscare proponent. snowe should follow the other proud RINO, arlen specter, & join the (D)ependency Party, that would gladly welcome her.
Per the symbathy cry that 40/50 million people don`t have healthscare insurance, the same amount don`t have personal jets, but it`s not the responsibility of taxpayers to provide either.
Steele`s plan for illegal aliens is a start, but it should go even farther, to the rulebook of the United States government, aka, the U. S. Constitution, that Chairman NObama & his pro-illegal comrade in congress, juan mcamnesty, took an oath to support, but choose to
ignore.
And finally, wanted to respond to Connie`s view of risky Socialist Insecurity...true, mandatory FICA `contributions` are taken out of employees` paychecks, unfortunately, Socialist Insecurity benefits are lost to the government, when FICA payers don`t live to collect any benefits, or have no eligible survivors.
In the real world, operators of Ponzi schemes are jailed, recall Bernie Madoff? But corrupt politicians are praised & glorfied for running the biggest Ponzi scheme in history, Socialist Insecurity.
Let the revolution begin, again...no more FICA taxation, without representation. Help restore 10th Amendment rights.
Marisa, do you have Jorge Ramos` email address?

- Harry Thompson

Comment on "Child welfare workers too quick to remove Latino children from their families"

Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:43:16 -0600

Marisa: Please solicit input from some professionals who understand the journey social welfare theory has traveled. Beginning with the English Poor Laws, we have morphed into something never intended. A thorough discussion of this journey is needed. Hispanic and Africans in America are victims of being 'agents' trained, not educated, by the Harvard/Stanford cabal. I insist that the products we are getting are exactly as the cabal deigned. Marc Morial, President, National Urban League, makes the case that America is an AIRTIGHT CULTURAL VACUUM. That is exactly what Pope Benedict XVI inferred on April 17, 2008, in Washington, DC.

I would offer that the primary goal of Hispanics and Africans in America who hold public office is to get re-elected just to pay the bills. They also know that if they do otherwise the White power structure will go under near bridge, find a new agent and defeat them.

All Blessings,

Charles McGee
"From the Back of the Bus"
Andalusia, Alabama

- Charles McGee

Comment on "In these times, cities need to do more to help day laborers"

Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:56:53 -0600

Day laborer centers were created to help people come off the streets and have a safe place to connect with employers. How does a center help that asks people their immigration status and thereby excludes a large part of the people it should be serving?

In addition, I wonder about the crime rate of a city where police are busying themselves with laborers' immigration status, and even with the presence of laborers. Hopefully they are doing it because there are no crimes they should be pursuing. Or are they doing it because it is so much easier to "catch" an undocumented laborer than a robber or mugger?

- laura

Comment on "Free speech is hard to defend when it's being abused"

Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:42:01 -0600

laura, what makes you think that those in our country should have any power anwyay? If Geraldo had any real sense of decency he wouldn't have accused Dobbs of the things that he did. If he had any real sense of decency he wouldn't be an advocate for illegals and he would defend Americans and our laws instead.

- cookie