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Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:01:17 -0600

Puhleeze Horace. As you so often like to tell me that I'm comparing apples to oranges, don't you think it's the same in this case? You're comparing an established democracy where respect for the laws and Constitution are ingrained in all of us from an early age. And where no self-respecting politician would ever blatantly abuse power that would warrant his forced removal other than impeachment. In Central America, where that same democratic history is not shared, why is it so hard to believe they would revert to a method removing someone from power that has been effective in the past? It doesn't mean that the outcome would be same. The world is assuming it will be but where is the real proof, especially when you have people on the ground saying otherwise?

- Marisa Treviño

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:05:30 -0600

Yesterday 5,0000 Hondurans marched in favor of the regime change in New Orleans, long considered Honduras' third city. I am from New Orleans. It's a poor city, and not all of those marchers were the elite of Honduras. The legal Hondurans that I know are middle class people who are teachers, restaurant owners and the like. And of course, the thousands of illegal ones who struggle to make it their home as well.

- Laurie Matherne

Comment on "Pundits of Supreme Court's reverse discrimination ruling are missing the bigger point"

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:38:40 -0600

A few weeks ago I was sitting in the emergency room of a hospital in Los Angeles, when a black man awaiting his turn with the clinic struck up a conversation with me. I was shocked when he told me that he wanted a white doctor to treat him because he couldn't trust that he'd get the best care from a minority doctor because of affirmative action.

- Chris

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:26:55 -0600

"Would others in the government sit idly by and let the president have his way? Let him/her finish their term? How would we remove him/her?

Thankfully, we've never had to do it but what would we do?"

For one thing, congress could impeach the president and they could also separate him from treasury funds by de-funding resolutions. With no money, federal institutions cannot carry out the president's intentions. Also, in the case of our government, employees are sworn to uphold the Constitution. Federal employees are not obligated to carry out the will of the president if his demands include violating the law. The result becomes a paralyzed presidency.

Marisa, it's interesting that your inclination to support the Honduran military seems to reflect your rebelliousness against our own government to enforce our immigration laws. When you can't get your way through our legislatures, you're not above getting it through force. Your inclinations scare me.

- Horace

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:48:34 -0600

Response to "El guapo"
What it is you have a president who refuses to leave the White House even though he has 17 criminal charge against him. A president who mugs his Army, Congress and Court Supreme by telling on National Tv HE IS ADOVE THE LAW?
Militars went to ARREST Mr. Zelaya to his home like any oder white neck criminal, but his 10 bodyguards started shooting!!!!

He was taken to Costa Rica to protect him!!!!
If he should have stay in the cuntry mostikely he´ll be dead by now.

He is invlove with drug dealing and most of them have given him money.

Do you think the mob was gonna be happy him arrested, canceld his accounts and lose their money????

NOoooooooo they would have KILL HIM HERE!!!

He betread his country to get International Support and give time to Chavez and Ortega the chance to plan a new strategy.

By the way would you allow a President to turn your contry into a really really much more poor Venezuela or Cuba???
We dont have oil, we can support us.
Our economy depends in Private Comapnies and international investors.

Yes we are poor but we are free and we wanna stay that way.

- Paola

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:28:28 -0600

I was born and live in honduras I am poor and I don´t support Manuel ZeLaYA.He was paying $50 for people to vote so he can be re-eleted. He is friends wih Chave and wants to turn mi country into a socialist counry. H

He is involve in drug dealing and many oder inlegal acts.

Believe the people that support him are pay by him. Dont beleive what he says you only have his side of the stoty. He was notify that he was going to be arrested and was given the oportunito to go to Costa Rica for a fair trial. He is a liar.

Yo think that a president who really loves his contry would have allow all the international sanction to his country and be sitting there making himself look good and his contry look bad to th world?

That man is a real thief Who cares only for himself. They found today 4 million dlollar in her 24 old daughters bank account, and 3 million cash in his presidencial office. Al given by Chavez to bride the people to voto for that ilegal survey he was planning. I vote for him to be President I believe all his lies. But he is jus a souless criminal. We HONDURANS the real people that love our country WHANT HIM IN JAIL.

I have pove for everything I writing here i can even post a link to a video in wich on live tv he admitted to have wi the elctions with fraud

English is not my anguage so I apologize for any spellign or grammar mistakes.

- Paola

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:41:32 -0600

Here is another blogger who was born in Honduras, and now lives in Mexico.
http://blog.aeortiz.com/

- Laurie

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:26:09 -0600

Here are a few links from Honduras voices.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8130038.stm

http://irina-orellana.blogspot.com/

http://borninhonduras.blogspot.com/

This is all I could find. I really am sincere when I say there is virtually no one in favor of Zelaya. He did little to help the poor.

- laurie

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:06:43 -0600

For another take, here are a few links:

http://www.racewire.org/archives/2009/07/obama_can_redeem_himself_in_ho.html

Even The School of the Americas Watch http://www.soaw.org/

http://www.lasolidarity.org/index.shtml

http://www.alternet.org/world/141026/honduran_leader%27s_populism_is_what_provoked_military_violence/

- Bianca

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:58:44 -0600

Bianca, I wish I could find a blogger - Spanish or English — who is defending Zelaya but I've tried and I can't. In response to the criticism that our guest blogger was not a native Honduran, here's a blog in Spanish from a native Honduran who left the country two years ago and is blogging about events in Honduras - http://janpedrano.blogspot.com/

In an interesting article, the blogger links to this editorial (http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2009/junio/26/opinion2007986.html) in a magazine from Costa Rica who saw the handwriting on the wall when it comes to Zelaya. I'm sorry to say I don't have time to translate the article but hope you can read it.

- Marisa Treviño

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:55:44 -0600

Laurie

I have been closely following the events unfolding in Honduras. Many thanks indeed for sharing as you are doing. Factual information is hard to come by outside of Honduras as you have noted. It seems to me that a bigger game is being played out, a game between Obama and Chavez, and Honduras just happens to be a little (disposable) country caught in the cross fire.

I find the response of the OAS and UN appalling even as I am not entirely surprised. Fidel Castro proclaimed the OAS an unburied cadaver. Perhaps for once in his miserable life he got it right.

I am totally with the people of Honduras. The ousting of Zelaya, while perhaps a tad clumsy, was a move in the correct direction, it seems. Keep up the great work, you are a credit to your country, and freedom.

And rest assured that if Chavez and his mobs so much as touch a hair of your heads I will personally jump on an aircraft, fly across the Pacific, and stand with the people of Honduras against the neo-communist bully from Venezuela and his bully henchmen.

John

PS I won't bring a gun but love and a pen.

- John

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:46:17 -0600

Do two wrongs make a right? No, of course not but I am suspending my definition of what is wrong with a forced removal by the military and considering the possibility that in a country that only knows how to remove people from office who are abusing power with a military escort to maybe not fit their definition of bad.

I wonder. If we had a president who was so openly abusing power and contradicting the rulings of the other branches of government to enforce their agenda, what would we do? Would we wait for the next election? Congress would most probably begin impeachment proceedings but what if the president didn't recognize the impeachment process and refused to leave the White House? Would others in the government sit idly by and let the president have his way? Let him/her finish their term? How would we remove him/her?

Thankfully, we've never had to do it but what would we do?

- Marisa Treviño

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:20:40 -0600

If you read any of the other bloggers to whom I linked to in the post, you will see that they all are saying the same things.

- Marisa Treviño

Comment on "Pundits of Supreme Court's reverse discrimination ruling are missing the bigger point"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:44:21 -0600

I was reading through this, and I got halfway and started thinking, "O no. Here we go again. Another argument to give preferences to select people." But I was very pleased to read the proposed remedy.

I've been saying this for years, but no one listens to me. Rather than hire or promote or admit a lesser qualified minority, we should address the issues that cause said minority to be lesser qualified in the first place, and that starts even before kindergarten in many cases.

Bravo on another excellent blog entry. Maybe someone will listen to Marisa.

- El Guapo

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:39:29 -0600

Evidently Laurie doesn't get it either. The President violated the law. There are procedures through which to follow to enforce the law.

When some in the U.S. Congress wanted to impeach Clinton, they didn't organize the military to storm the White House and extradite him to Canada. Did they? No. Thankfully they followed the procedures outlined in the Constitution and other U.S. laws.

HONDURAS SHOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING!!

Please provide an answer to this question: Do two wrongs make a right?

- El Guapo

Comment on "Time is fast running out for Honors Student, Walter Lara, scheduled to be deported July 6"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:11:13 -0600

Looks like his deportation has been deferred for a year. Good for him.

http://www.miamiherald.com/459/story/1124745.html

- Texano78704

Comment on "World's political leaders rushing to judgement to support ousted Honduran president "

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:39:28 -0600

In a interview with Jorge Ramos on Univisión, "interim president" Roberto Michelitti failed to respond to the question posed to him by what authority President Zalaya was removed from his house in his pajamas and was put on an airplane to Costa Rica. Sounds to me very much like a coup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_j0f1DOMnU

- Texano78704

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:19:26 -0600

Pardon my scepticism, but this is not a Honduran blogger. This is a gringa who blogs from Honduras. Third World history is full of examples of Westerners residing there who "support revolutions" that end up benefiting themselves more than anyone else. I'd like to hear from a native of Honduras, assuming that one can be found who dares to speak publicly.

- thepoliticalcat

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:26:55 -0600

Congratulations Marisa!

This blog from Laurie is an affirmation that much (if not all) of American media is a mere tool for the world's money-changers, who irresponsibly move its politicians to the left or right, all pawns in the greater scheme of corporate profits. As Laurie stated concerning Amos'prophecy (5:24), God will see to it that the innocent citizens of Honduras will receive fairness and justice, now or in the eternity!

Keep up the great work!

Tu Amigo,

Joe Ortiz, author
The End Times Passover

- Joe Ortiz

Comment on "Guest Voz: Honduran blogger sets record straight on real story in Honduras"

Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:01:51 -0600

I appreciate your posts on Honduras and respect your stance on Zelaya's presidency and ousting, but for the sake of anyone who actually does like Zelaya, could you please post somebody's account that sees it a different way?

I know that other countries are demanding his return and that you believe that his ousting was not necessarily a bad thing, but has anyone heard from a POOR person in Honduras? I don't care about the elite, I care about the POOR people, and particularly the poor women who have had to live under Zelaya's rule.

I do not mean to discredit Laurie Matherne's take on Zelaya, but we are only outsiders. It seems like Matherne's stance is not in favor of leftist or socialist politics, so how about featuring somebody who is a leftist (even socialist or communist, as this article casts it as a horrible thing that helps no one) so that everyone gets a fair share of their voices heard?

- Bianca