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        <title>Fred Zacharias</title>
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        <summary>[I am posting this memorial notice on behalf of Fred's friend Bruce Green -- BW] It is with sadness that I report the death of Professor Fred Zacharias on November 8, at the much too young age of 56, after...</summary>
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            <name>Brad Wendel</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>[I am posting this memorial notice on behalf of Fred's friend Bruce Green -- BW]</p><p>It is with sadness that I report the death of Professor Fred Zacharias on 
November 8, at the much too young age of 56, after a valiant, months’-long 
battle with a rare form of cancer.  Fred was a good friend of mine and of 
many others in the legal ethics community as well as a leader in, and 
outstanding contributor to, the field. </p><p>Fred was a prolific scholar.  It 
was my privilege to co-author nine articles with him over the past decade, 
and that was just a small proportion of his prodigious output.  Fred was 
happy to tackle, and bring his insights to, virtually any issue in the field, 
and rarely turned down a chance to contribute to a conference or symposium.  
A former defense lawyer, Fred often brought his experiences from 
practice into his scholarship, while at the same time keeping current on 
academic writings in order to advance scholarly conversation in the field.  
Fred was among the handful of most frequently cited scholars of 
his generation.</p><p>As past chair of the AALS Professional Responsibility 
Section and regular contributor to the section’s newsletter, Fred sought 
to advance teaching no less than scholarship.  Having attended many 
of Fred’s talks at the ABA National Conference and at 
academic conferences, I can attest that Fred took his role in the classroom 
as seriously as he took his writing.  He also served the profession 
with dedication, including as a consultant on the Restatement of the 
Law Governing Lawyers and on other ALI projects and as a member of his 
city bar’s ethics committee.  In recognition of his 
outstanding contributions, Fred received numerous distinctions at the 
University of San Diego School of Law, where he taught for almost two 
decades, including most recently as the Herzog Endowed Research Professor 
and, this summer, as the inaugural holder of the Donald Weckstein 
Summer Research Professorship.</p><p>On a personal note, among the things I 
most valued in our friendship were Fred’s generosity of spirit and his 
commitment to friends and family.  Fred is survived by his wife, Sharon, and 
by his sons, Eric and<br />Blake, and by his mother, brother and sister-in-law.  
Letters of condolence may be sent care of the law school.  I mourn his 
passing. </p><p>-Bruce Green</p></div>
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        <title>"So, an estate plan [is patentable]?" asked Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. "A tax avoidance method? How to resist a corporate takeover? All of these are patentable?" </title>
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        <published>2009-11-09T19:49:45-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-09T19:49:45-05:00</updated>
        <summary>The media are reporting that the US Supreme Court was extremely skeptical today about business method patents, in the long-awaited and highly anticipated Bilski oral argument. Over the last several years, I've often been asked if legal techniques will be...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><a href="http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdaily/2009/11/bilski.html">The media are reporting</a> that the US Supreme Court was extremely skeptical today about business method patents, in the long-awaited and highly anticipated Bilski oral argument.  Over the last several years, I've often been asked if legal techniques will be patentable -- the classic example being tax avoidance ideas -- and I've said that I sure hope the courts will kill that idea.  Looks like the court will provide us with some more restrictive rules about what is patentable.  Legal methods probably won't be.  </div>
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        <title>NLJ top 250 firms drop 4% in lawyer headcount</title>
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        <published>2009-11-09T11:25:28-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-09T11:32:39-05:00</updated>
        <summary>This article says that "the number of attorneys in 2009 [in the top 250 firms] sank to 126,669 lawyers, compared with 131,928 attorneys last year." In 2008, the number of attorneys increased by 4.3 percent" and the number of associates...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202435276422&amp;_Worst_Year__for_Lawyer_Headcount_in__Decades__Says_NLJ__Survey">This article</a> says that "t<span style="font-family: arial; line-height: 14px; ">he number of attorneys in 2009 [in the top 250 firms] sank to 126,669 lawyers, compared with 131,928 attorneys last year."  In 2008, the number of attorneys increased by 4.3 percent" and the number of associates dropped by 8.7%  </span><p><span style="font-family: arial; line-height: 14px; ">If the worst year in decades was a 4% drop, is some of the rhetoric about the death of biglaw overblown?  I agree, though, that the way biglaw goes about its business </span><span style="line-height: 14px; "><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1104711">has changed</a></span><span style="font-family: arial; line-height: 14px; ">.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial; line-height: 14px; ">(Just as a point of comparison, if all 250 firms were combined, the number of lawyers would be half the number of employees at Nestle, the world's 36th largest company.)</span></p></div>
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        <title>Anne Poulin: "Conflicts of Interest in Criminal Cases: Should the Prosecution Have a Duty to Disclose?"</title>
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        <published>2009-11-09T10:47:34-05:00</published>
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        <summary>Article here, by Anne Poulin. Abstract: This article addresses two types of conflicts of interests that arise in criminal cases: 1) when defense counsel has an employment relation to the prosecutor’s office, and 2) when defense counsel faces criminal investigation...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1492309">Article here</a>, by <a href="http://www.law.vill.edu/academics/faculty/biographies/faculty/poulin/">Anne Poulin</a>.  Abstract:</p><p><blockquote><span style="font-family: Trebuchet, Tahoma, 'Myriad Roman', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">This article addresses two types of conflicts of interests that arise in criminal cases: 1) when defense counsel has an employment relation to the prosecutor’s office, and 2) when defense counsel faces criminal investigation or charges. Both these situations threaten both the defendant’s representation and the actual as well as apparent fairness of the proceeding. Yet, only in extreme cases are these conflicts likely to result in a reversal of the defendant’s conviction. As a result, protection of the defendant and the fairness of the process often depends on early intervention, which allows the court to advise the defendant of the risks inherent in counsel’s situation and possibly accept a waiver from the defendant or disqualify counsel if appropriate. <br /><br />If defense counsel has an employment relationship with the prosecutor’s office or if counsel faces criminal investigation or charges, the prosecution generally has ready access to the pertinent information, and neither the court nor the defendant is likely to be aware of the problem. Therefore, when a situation exists that may generate one of these two types of conflict, the prosecution must have an obligation to disclose relevant information to the court and the defendant. Imposing the obligation of disclosure on the prosecution will increase the likelihood that courts will be able to address these types of conflict early and appropriately.</span></blockquote></p></div>
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        <title>More details on the biglaw associate arrested for insider trading</title>
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        <published>2009-11-08T18:31:03-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-08T18:31:03-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Details here. The prosecutors apparently have tape recorded phone calls implicating the accused.</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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        <title>When is moving a tortfeasor's assets a participation in fraud?</title>
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        <published>2009-11-08T18:28:52-05:00</published>
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        <summary>An Iowa farmer shot and killer his neighbor, and, in anticipation of law suits, the farmer quickly began to shift assets, hide assets, and engage in a massive shell game -- all with the help of lawyers. At what point,...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">An Iowa farmer shot and killer his neighbor, and, in anticipation of law suits, the farmer quickly began to shift assets, hide assets, and engage in a massive shell game -- all with the help of lawyers.  At what point, if any, <a href="http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20091108/OPINION01/911080316/-1/BUSINESS04">are the lawyers participating in a fraud?</a></div>
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        <title>What Ever Happened to the Search for Truth?</title>
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        <published>2009-11-06T17:24:20-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-06T17:24:20-05:00</updated>
        <summary>There was argument yesterday (Thursday) in the Supreme Court in Pottawattamie County v. McGhee, in which two men who have served 25 years of life sentences are suing two prosecutors in federal court for violating their constitutional rights by coaching...</summary>
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            <name>Monroe Freedman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>There was argument yesterday (Thursday) in the Supreme Court in Pottawattamie County v. McGhee, in which two men who have served 25 years of life sentences are suing two prosecutors in federal court for violating their constitutional rights by coaching  and coercing witnesses to commit perjury at their trial for murder.  The Iowa Supreme Court freed the (now) plaintiffs after finding that the main witness against them was “a liar  and a perjurer.”</p><p>Police officers have qualified (not absolute) immunity for fabricating evidence that is later used at trial.  Also, the lawyer for the prosecutors-defendants said that prosecutors who fabricate evidence, but who don’t present it at trial, can be sued.  But he argued that prosecutors who participate in the trial should have complete immunity for both suborning and presenting perjury.</p><p>Neal Katyal, a U.S. deputy SG, argued for the U.S. (!) that there is no constitutional right to sue either the police or the prosecutors if they have acted in concert to create and present the perjury.</p><p>Justice Kennedy commented that it’s a strange proposition that the more aggravated the tort, the greater the immunity.</p><p>Justice Alito expressed concern that liability in a case like this might chill prosecutors in assisting police in investigating cases.</p><p>Justice Sotomayor observed that prosecutors are rarely disciplined for misconduct, suggesting that potential civil liability might help to curb such misconduct.</p><p>It looks like 5-4, one way or the other.</p></div>
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        <title>Birther lawsuits</title>
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        <published>2009-11-06T11:09:07-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-06T11:49:23-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Last week George Conk posted an entry on his blog (here) with respect to the New Jersey attorney who has filed a lawsuit claiming that Barack Obama is a "usurper" because he was not born in the United States. Conk...</summary>
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            <name>Alice Woolley</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Last week George Conk posted an entry on his blog <a href="http://blackstonetoday.blogspot.com/2009/10/birther-madness-lawyers-behaving-badly.html">(here</a>) with respect to the New Jersey attorney who has filed a lawsuit claiming that Barack Obama is a "usurper" because he was not born in the United States.  Conk argues that the filing of this lawsuit violates the ethical obligations of the lawyers because it is so obviously without merit.  My starting point was to agree with that, particularly given my general agreement with those who have argued that the conduct of Yoo et al was unethical.  While in this case safeguards of judicial process exist which did not for Yoo, the same basic principle, that lawyers have some obligation to respect legality, comes into play.  </p><p>On reflection, though, I have some qualms about the virtues of this position in the birther case.  This is for two main reasons.  First, the problem with the lawsuit in New Jersey is not that it is manipulating the law in some way (at least as I understand it).  The problem is that it is asserting facts that are almost certainly untrue.  I.e., it is clear in law that the President must be born in America; the only question is whether the application of that rule to Obama causes any problems.  There are of course many constraints on the ability of lawyers to bring forward facts that are not true, and the frivolity restrictions on filing lawsuits would probably apply to factually frivolous lawsuits as well as to legally bogus ones.  But I think there might be a need to make some analytical distinctions between those two things - i.e., the nature of what constitutes unethical conduct in the filing of a factually frivolous lawsuit might be different from a legally frivolous one.  I would tend to think one should be more lenient with factual frivolity, if only because often a purpose of litigation is to discover what happened, and to provide access to a far better and more complete factual records than can be obtained otherwise.</p><p>Second, and to me more significantly, as a matter of public policy it seems better to have litigation such as this go through the Court.  It seems to me better to have a Court say to a birther, "I've looked at this and you're completely wrong and there is no issue whatsoever with Obama's place of birth" then to have a lawyer say that to a birther in private.  Preventing the court from pronouncing on the matter seems to me more likely to allow the birther movement to simply continue to spread its rumours and stories about the web, without the strong counter argument that the judgment would present.  This may not always be a strong argument for bringing frivolous litigation - private cases don't have the same public significance as Obama's place of birth - but it seems to me to have some weight here.  </p></div>
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        <title>Clicks, Clients, and Controversy: The Ethics of Paying for Client Leads</title>
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        <published>2009-11-06T10:32:28-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-06T10:34:32-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Several states are asking whether a lawyer can pay a non-lawyer for each Internet-based client lead that the non-lawyer generates. Some state bar authorities, most notably Connecticut's, contend that such a payment is an unethical referral fee, whereas other states...</summary>
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            <name>Andrew Perlman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">Several states are asking whether a lawyer can pay a non-lawyer for
each Internet-based client lead that the non-lawyer generates. <span /> <span />Some state bar authorities, most notably <a href="http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/x1170601644/Norwich-lawyer-scolds-colleagues-Web-advertising">Connecticut's</a>,
contend that such a payment is an unethical referral fee, whereas other states
(e.g., <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS191801+01-Oct-2009+BW20091001">Hawaii</a>)
have concluded that it is simply a fee for advertising, which <a href="http://www.abanet.org/cpr/mrpc/rule_7_2.html">the rules permit</a><span style="font-family: Arial;" />. </p><p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">

In my view, lead generation is no different from what you
see on the left and right sides of this blog. 
You are likely to see ads for lawyers and law firms.  If you click on one of those ads, Google (a
non-lawyer) gets a small fee for generating a “lead,” and this blog gets a
small fee.  Because Google (and this
blog) do not get paid any additional money if the prospective client retains
the lawyer, the fee is for advertising, which is ethical, and not for the
referral, which would be unethical.   (Carolyn Elefant makes a similar point <a href="http://www.myshingle.com/2009/11/articles/ethics-malpractice-issues/why-isnt-anyone-speaking-for-the-five-solos-targeted-by-the-connecticut-disciplinary-counsels-attack-on-socalled-referral-services/#more">here</a>.) </p><p style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial;">The conduct getting all of the attention is the business
model of totalattorneys.com, which is slightly different from the Google ads,
but not different in any meaningful sense.<span>  </span><span />An attorney (say a bankruptcy attorney) subscribes to Total Attorneys’
service, totalbankruptcy.com.<span>  </span>If someone comes to the website looking for a bankruptcy lawyer, Total Attorneys identifies the
prospective client’s zip code and connects her to an attorney near where the
prospective client lives.<span>  </span>That lawyer
then pays a fee to Total Attorneys for the lead.<span>  </span>Critically, the lawyer pays the same fee
regardless of whether the prospective client decides to hire the attorney.<span>  </span></p><p>I don’t see how Total Attorney's lead generation revenue model is conceptually different from Google's pay-per-click model.<span>  </span>In both cases, a lawyer is paying a fee to a non-lawyer for each lead that the non-lawyer generates.  If Total Attorneys is doing something problematic, isn't Google doing the same thing?  </p><p>The Connecticut authorities <a href="http://www.greatlegalmarketing.com/library/Conn_Disciplinary_Chief_Zelotes_v_Chern_Memorandum.pdf">try to distinguish Google</a> (see pages 10 and 11) primarily on the grounds that the fee paid to Google is small, but I don't see anything in the rules that distinguishes between small referral fees and larger ones.  If there is no such distinction, Connecticut should necessarily prohibit attorneys from advertising through Google.  And if they start to do that, please don't tell them about our blog ads.<span>
</span>“Ethics Blog Helps Lawyers Engage in Unethical Conduct” is a headline
that we could do without. </p></div>
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        <title>Blogging as grounds to oppose pro hac vice application?</title>
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        <published>2009-11-05T17:56:02-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-05T21:10:04-05:00</updated>
        <summary>The theory is that the blogging lawyers who seek pro hac admission are in violation of the trial publicity rule. (Hat tip to Ben Sheffner, at Copyrights &amp; Campaigns)</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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        <title>Biglaw associate arrested in insider trading scandal</title>
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        <published>2009-11-05T14:15:08-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-05T14:20:05-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Story here. It's only allegations and charges at this point, but we will try to follow it closely. (For those of you who remember the Ilan Reich affair, in which Reich, a biglaw associate, pled guilty to criminal insider trading...</summary>
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        <title>Judge Posner on the modern economy for young lawyers</title>
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        <published>2009-11-05T11:05:23-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-05T11:05:23-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Jump to the 20th minute. If you're familiar with the recent work of Bill Henderson and others, none of this will surprise you, but I enjoyed hearing Judge Posner's distinctive spin.</summary>
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        <title>New Media in the Courtroom: Northern California Federal Courts conference</title>
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        <published>2009-11-04T16:09:05-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-05T11:01:18-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Official site here. I'm there, and we've been encouraged to blog or tweet from the conference, in the federal building. (The security guards were a little surprised that we were allowed to bring electronic equipment upstairs.) If you have any...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Official site <a href="http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/committees/pico/index.html">here</a>.  I'm there, and we've been encouraged to blog or tweet from the conference, in the federal building.  (The security guards were a little surprised that we were allowed to bring electronic equipment upstairs.)  If you have any questions you'd like to ask the judges, please post them.  The point of the conference is to see if the federal judiciary and the media (new and old) can come to terms with each other.  The comments below are my quick paraphrasings of what is being said.</p><p>The judges are stressing that they want to learn about new media.  They know it's coming to their nook of the legal system.</p><p /><br /><br /><br /><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Illston" style="color: blue !important; text-decoration: underline !important; cursor: text !important; ">Judge Illston</a>: Providing survey of current rules in the N.D. Cal.  Phones are rarely banned in the ND.  We no longer ask you to leave your phone with the marshals.  But once you permit phones, you're permitting cameras.  Judge Illston doesn't prohibit using a laptop to send text back to the office or to the internet.  She occasionally prohibits that if the tapping on the keyboard is too loud.</p><p><a href="http://www.firstamendmentcoalition.org/" style="color: blue !important; text-decoration: underline !important; cursor: text !important; ">Peter Scheer</a> (First Amendment Coalition): The ban on broadcasting from federal courts is nationwide and would need to be changed by the judiciary or Congress -- which is likely to happen in the next year or two.  In the meantime, the public isn't learning about important cases the way they should.  We're still in the era of pastel drawings that we call recall from the Watergate era.</p><p>Melissa Griffin (<a href="http://sweetmelissa.typepad.com/" style="color: blue !important; text-decoration: underline !important; cursor: text !important; ">SweetMelissa</a>)  Give examples of legal blawgs.</p><p><a href="http://www.dwt.com/People/KelliLSager" style="color: blue !important; text-decoration: underline !important; cursor: text !important; ">Kelli Sage</a>r:  The problem we're facing is that with the shrinking newspapers, we're getting less coverage of the courts.  So the courts can reach out more.</p><p>Judge Illston: Our court is working hard to be accessible but we're still learning.  For example, I have a high profile case [i.e., <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_problems_of_Barry_Bonds" style="color: blue !important; text-decoration: underline !important; cursor: text !important; ">Barry Bonds trial]</a> and we worked to make the system accessible.  But there was a limit on how much room we had to accommodate that.  And we didn't have to face the tough question, "who is a journalist?"  We're adding audio and video systems so people covering the Bonds trial could sit in the building and watch it.  (We're not permitted to broadcast outside the building.)  And we're making other efforts to accommodate the new media.  But we can't be out there policing the process.  </p><p><a href="http://comm.stanford.edu/faculty/bettinger/" style="color: blue !important; text-decoration: underline !important; cursor: text !important; ">James Bettinger</a>:  How should courts decide who is, and who isn't, a journalist?</p><p>Judge Illston:  Here's what happened.  We had people sign up, and so far that's worked fine.  No one was turned away.  </p><p>Peter Scheer: "Who's a journalist" comes up only when spots need to be rationed.  There are no official bodies to determine that.  The courts don't want to be in the business of answering that, and shouldn't.  The line drawing should be left to the profession itself.  Maybe if there are too many journalists there, we need to decide [by lottery].  Government shouldn't decide it.</p><p>Sager:  Courts often allocate in various ways (type of media; amount of circulation; etc.) and hopefully that will include new media.</p><p>Griffin: So far the allocation hasn't been a problem.  Right now the police give the press passes so that they can walk across police lines.  But we need a new way of managing that problem.  We need a way to be certified somehow.  It has to evolve toward that.  We also need to educate new media types about not interfering with the legal process.</p><p>Judge Illston: We tried to provide information about the ground rules for covering in the Bonds case.  But the person who walks into court for the first time might not know the rules and we need to address that on a continuing basis.  It's the same issue with jurors.  They need to informed about the rules.  We can do a better job of that.</p><p>Bettinger: We've mentioned that fewer reporters from traditional media are covering the courts.  What damage results from that/</p><p>Scheer: Mainstream media have been the primary force behind going to court, hiring lawyers, to fight for greater access to public information, to fight gag orders, and the like.  We've all benefitted from that.  In the past many newspapers had monopoly profits to spend on that.  They don't have those resources anymore.  And if newspapers can't hire media lawyers to open up things, who will?  It's a challenge for courts, for people who care about access, etc.</p><p>Audience member: The police don't give press passes if they don't like your politics.</p><p>Bettinger:  What about jurors?  What kinds of issues do new media raise for you as a judge in a jury trial?</p><p>Judge Illston: The first concerns is the jury and making sure that they don't learn anything outside the evidence.  These days, the internet is the main problem.  It's so accessible as a source of information.  It might be someone contacting the juror.  More innocently, it's the juror looking for information about the subject matter of the suit.  It's an effort to sequester the jury.  We rely on their good faith.  Mostly it works.  That's what we tell the jurors.  Next week when I start a new trial, I will instruct the lawyers to tell the witnesses not to try to use the internet to find out what's been said at the trial.  </p><p>Sager: I wonder if we don't get too concerned with all that stuff.  Can we really keep all jurors and witnesses from learning anything about the matter?  </p><p>Griffin: [Relates anecdote about potential jurors googling and thereby getting out of jury duty!]</p><p>Scheer: Pretrial publicity concerns, no matter how great, can be offset by instructions, voir dire, and where necessary sequestration or change in venue.  But pretrial publicity cannot justify closing the trial.</p><p>Audience Member: [Can't we get cable in the court room?]</p><p>Judge Illston: A court in the First Circuit tried that, and was told not to.</p><p>Sager: We're all still trying to get over the OJ Simpson case.  We need to move on; need to find a way to prevent what we didn't like in that case but still keep the court open.</p><p>Audience Member: Can we really prevent jurors from accessing the internet for long periods of time?</p><p>Judge Illston: So far it hasn't been a problem.</p><p>Bettinger: We've seen the Simpson and Peterson cases.  Will greater access bring the courts into disrepute?</p><p>Scheer: No.  People have more respect when they see how the courts work.  The oral argument in the Prop 8 case is a good example.  People listening realized that law isn't just political fiat; it was a legal matter.  People didn't think it was fixed the way politics are.  People would see that a branch of government actually decides on the merits sometimes.  That will redound to the benefit of the courts and the system generally.</p><p>Sager: Whatever you think of the Simpson case, you'd be wrong to think that the cameras made the difference.  Now think about the Oklahoma bombing case, a case run expertly by an experienced judge.  That one was televised via closed circuit proceedings and it didn't affect anything, and the public should have seen that.  If they had, they would have admired the courts more.</p><p>Audience Member: How might the policy be changed?</p><p>Scheer: It's a policy of the federal judiciary and the judges who administer those rules (the Judicial Conference) aren't as easily addressed as regulatory bodies are.  The Jud Conf is sensitive to Congress on issues like this, and it's come up in Congressional hearings.  The conventional wisdom was that the SCOTUS needed to change its views, and Justice Souter was anti-cameras.  That may have changed things.  [Chief Justice Roberts doesn't like the idea.]</p><p /></div>
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        <title>Deputy swipes document from defense counsel</title>
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        <published>2009-11-04T10:41:06-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-04T10:49:32-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Amazing video. Stories here and here (with a nod to Reason blog). (If this doesn't get Monroe's blood boiling, I don't know what will.) At the subsequent hearing the deputy could not explain his conduct except to suggest that he...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Amazing video.  Stories <a href="http://www.heatcity.org/2009/10/detention-officer-tries-to-explain-why.html">here</a> and <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/03/welcome-to-marikafka-county-ar">here</a> (with a nod to Reason blog).  (If this doesn't get Monroe's blood boiling, I don't know what will.)  At the subsequent hearing the deputy could not explain his conduct except to suggest that he seized the document because it was proof of a crime.  But the judge would not hold the deputy in contempt unless the deputy could defend himself by discussing what he saw on the document -- and because the document was privileged, the deputy was forbidden to discuss the contents unless the defendant waived the privilege.  The defendant wouldn't waive, and so the judge didn't hold the deputy in contempt.  (If I were the judge I would have!)</p><p><span size="2;" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; white-space: pre;"><br /></span></span></p><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><p align="center" class="asset asset-video" style="display: block; margin: 0 auto;"><object height="344" width="425"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UIoyJ-LyAaE&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UIoyJ-LyAaE&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" /></object></p><br />

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        <title>Court Hears Arguments Today on Attorney Inexperience and Prosecutorial Immunity</title>
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        <published>2009-11-04T06:00:00-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-03T14:18:21-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Two more lawyering cases will be argued at the Supreme Court today. Wood v. Allen raises an issue certain to resonate with new lawyers and those who supervise them: whether an attorney's inexperience may constitute ineffective assistance of counsel. Pottawattamie...</summary>
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        <title>Qualcomm: Outside lawyers blame the company</title>
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        <published>2009-11-03T10:33:23-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-03T10:33:23-05:00</updated>
        <summary>This is big. In the much discussed Qualcomm matter, where the federal court referred six lawyers (including two second-year associates) to the state bar for possible discipline, it now appears that the outside lawyers will blame the client for misleading...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202435137932">This is big</a>.  In the much discussed Qualcomm matter, where the federal court referred six lawyers (including two second-year associates) to the state bar for possible discipline, it now appears that the outside lawyers will blame the client for misleading the lawyers.  Some observers (myself included) have expected that defense to be raised -- and I eagerly await the court's ruling on it.  </p><p>I will post more analysis as it become known but for now want to mention one angle: the "disaggregation" of larger legal representations.  Increasingly, we are seeing corporate clients break up the legal representation into functional pieces and then farm out the functions to various providers, including lawyers.  To some degree this is old news.  And is certainly makes economic sense, given the costs of high-end legal services.  But in this era of electronic discovery and outsourcing, the dangers for the client and outside counsel have increased.  I had predicted that Qualcomm might usher in an era of increased danger for in-house counsel who manage large litigations. Perhaps at the Qualcomm hearing, set for January 2010, we will get some answers.</p></div>
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        <title>Kevin Michels on "Internal Corporate Investigations and the Truth"</title>
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        <summary>[Kevin Michels sends along this piece on internal corporate investigations.] Thanks for the invitation to guest blog at the Legal Ethics Forum. I am a regular reader and fan of the Forum. I am honored that the Forum featured my...</summary>
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&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;[&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tcnj.edu/~business/faculty/Michels.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt;Kevin Michels&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;;"&gt; sends along this piece on internal corporate investigations.]&amp;#0160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;Thanks
for the invitation to guest blog at the Legal Ethics Forum. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;&lt;/span&gt;I am a regular reader and fan of the
Forum.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;I am honored that the Forum
featured my article “&lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1481412"&gt;Internal
Corporate Investigations and the Truth&lt;/a&gt;,” which is slated for publication in the &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Seton
Hall Law Review&lt;/span&gt; in January 2010.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;
&lt;/span&gt;Today, I thought I would offer a few comments on the investigation
article, and why it might be of interest to those of us who think about legal
ethics.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;In the next couple of
weeks, I will offer some thoughts on &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1360880"&gt;my article&lt;/a&gt;
in the first issue of the current volume of the &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Georgetown Journal of Legal
Ethics&lt;/span&gt;, which uses the legal-ethics rules as part of two-prong test to
determine when to recognize or reject third-party claims against counsel.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;If
history is any guide, nearly half of all American public companies will
commission an internal corporate investigation this year.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Internal investigations are triggered
by allegations that the company or its employees engaged in material
wrongdoing.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;The corporation hires
investigative counsel, who conducts the investigation and reports her factual
and legal findings to the corporation and potentially to the public, the
government, shareholders, courts and other third parties. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;&lt;/span&gt;Much of the scholarly commentary to date
has addressed issues related to privilege and work-product protections, when
and whether to conduct an internal investigation and how to deal with employee
and other witnesses.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;My
efforts are directed at a more fundamental question: does investigative counsel
have an obligation to “get it right” in her investigation and report, and how does
this relate to her client obligations?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;
&lt;/span&gt;The investigator is asked to develop an investigative report assessing
the validity of material charges against &lt;em style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;her
client&lt;/em&gt; – a scenario rife with potential conflict. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;&lt;/span&gt;The article seeks to develop a
principled account of when investigative counsel are subject to special truth
obligations, what those obligations are, how they can be understood in a client
setting, and what these obligations entail for the structure and conduct of an
internal corporate investigation and for disclosure of the results.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;I
contend that the attorney-ethics rules as well as corporation law and other
statutory provisions effectively impose a duty on investigative counsel to
develop an accurate account of the law and facts in an investigative report
delivered to the client or to a third party.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;It is tempting, however, to dismiss imposition of a truth or
accuracy obligation on investigative counsel as more illusory than real.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Judges often disagree in their
assessment of legal matters, and thus some might see the role of investigative
counsel as simply to provide her “take” on the facts and law.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;In his article, “&lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=668609"&gt;Professionalism
as Interpretation&lt;/a&gt;,” W. Bradley Wendel persuasively argues (in the
counseling context) that while there may be room for disagreement, counsel’s
interpretation of legal matters is bounded by (to oversimplify) the principles,
standards and norms of the professional community.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Others (the so-called “conventionalists,” for example)
have offered a similar account of the constraints on judging.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;By analogy, I argue that it is
fair to demand accuracy of investigative counsel, provided that we understand
accuracy as a bounded range rather than a single, correct outcome.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;&amp;#0160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;




&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;Important
implications flow from the demand of accuracy.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Under RPC 2.3, investigative counsel must not undertake an
evaluation of the client for a third party unless the evaluation is
“compatible” with the attorney’s other obligations to the client.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Clients, of course, have a great
deal at stake in the outcome of the investigation, since their own alleged
wrongdoing is at issue. RPC 2.3, therefore, requires vigilance on the part of
investigative counsel to ensure that the investigator’s commitment to the truth
is “compatible” with the investigator’s client obligations.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Counsel must guard against client
attempts to intrude on her truth-seeking function at every phase of the
investigation, including: retention -- when the scope and depth of the
investigation are established; throughout the investigation -- in considering
questions of investigation expense, witness-and-document availability, efforts
to protect the client’s privilege, and changes to the investigation’s scope and
depth; and in reporting on the investigation -- where attempts to summarize or
issue selective accounts can undermine the accuracy of the report. Although
courts and statutes often consider “independence” the sole test of whether an
investigation is trustworthy, in fact counsel must satisfy an array of other
“truth standards” as well, including attention to the sufficiency of the
inquiry, the reliability of the evidence, and questions of selection and
emphasis in reporting.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;Curiously,
RPC 2.3 is regularly cited in connection with the obligations of counsel in
delivering legal &lt;em style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;opinions&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;The Rule, however, is rarely cited by
courts or commentators in the investigation context, although it unquestionably
applies there as well.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;In fact,
the internal investigation poses greater concerns about accuracy and client
influence.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;The legal opinion
typically deals with precise representations that can often be “cured” prior to
delivery of an opinion.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Moreover,
opinion counsel has an overwhelming liability incentive to be accurate
notwithstanding any client directive.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160;
&lt;/span&gt;The internal investigation, by contrast, offers few if any of these
protections, and the stakes for the client are often much higher.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;We need to think more about the ethical
implications of investigative counsel’s truth commitment.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;RPC 2.3 and other ethics rules can
anchor that inquiry.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;The
article also considers whether investigative counsel can deliver a report when
she has failed to satisfy one or more of the truth standards, and whether and
how “reliability qualifications” might be used in the report.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;It also explains why report recipients
should resist reliance on report summaries.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Our accuracy standard acknowledges that different
investigators can reach different outcomes when confronted with the same facts
and legal standards, and both interpretations can be within the legitimate
boundaries of professional interpretation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"&gt;&amp;#0160; &lt;/span&gt;Thus, the report recipient should rely on investigative
conclusions only if he is persuaded by the underlying analysis. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt;The
SSRN posting is a working draft, and any and all input is welcome.&amp;#0160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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        <title>Dina Mishra: "When the Interests of Municipalities and Their Officials Diverge: Municipal Dual Representation and Conflicts of Interest in § 1983 Litigation"</title>
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        <published>2009-11-02T12:54:13-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-02T12:54:13-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Interesting note topic. Abstract: In many cases, municipal attorneys defend both a municipality and a municipal official against § 1983 claims. Some defenses available to the two types of defendants are incompatible and may give rise to conflicts of interest....</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://yalelawjournal.org/119/1/Mishra.html">Interesting note topic</a>.  Abstract:</p><p><blockquote><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">In many cases, municipal attorneys defend both a<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 15px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "> <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "> municipality and a municipal official against § 1983 claims. Some defenses available to the two types of defendants are incompatible and may give rise to conflicts of interest. This Note analyzes the problems associated with these conflicts of interest. The Note categorizes and describes the strengths and shortcomings of existing approaches to addressing these conflicts. Finally, it proposes a hybrid approach that may better address conflicts of interest in municipal dual representation.</span></span></span></blockquote></p></div>
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        <title>If Philosophical Legal Ethics is the Answer, What is the Question? </title>
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        <published>2009-11-01T18:48:20-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-01T18:49:16-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Co-blogger Alice Woolley poses that Jeopardy-like riddle in this article. The piece raises some of the same themes as Bill Simon's recent article (discussed last week), but with a notably different slant. Here's the abstract: Philosophical legal ethics, a sub-disicpline...</summary>
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            <name>Andrew Perlman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Co-blogger Alice Woolley poses that Jeopardy-like riddle in <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1495970">this article</a>.  The piece raises some of the same themes as Bill Simon's recent article (<a href="http://www.legalethicsforum.com/blog/2009/10/moral-freaks-lawyers-ethics-in-academic-perspective.html">discussed last week</a>), but with a notably different slant.  Here's the abstract:</p><div class="blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"><font face="Myriad Roman, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif;" size="2">Philosophical
legal ethics, a sub-disicpline of legal ethics arguably initiated by
Charles Fried and Richard Wasserstrom, follows a consistent
methodological structure: First, what is the “standard conception” of
the lawyer’s role? Second, what is the relationship between the
standard conception – the conception of the lawyer as a partisan
advocate for her client, neutral about (and unaccountable for) the
morality of her client’s aims – and the claims of morality more
generally? And third, given that relationship, can what lawyers do be
morally justified? Or should what lawyers do be changed? The concerns
of philosophical legal ethics are not primarily doctrinal, analyze the
lawyer’s role with some generality, and are fundamentally rooted in
philosophy, moral or political. </font><br /><br /><font face="Myriad Roman, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif;" size="2">This article uses two recent
publications in the area of philosophical legal ethics - Daniel
Markovits’ A Modern Legal Ethics: Adversary Advocacy in a Democratic
Age and Tim Dare’s Counsel of Rogues? A Defense of the Standard
Conception of the Lawyer’s Role - to argue that the straightforward
rhetorical structure of philosophical legal ethics belies the
difficulty inherent in analyzing something that necessarily
incorporates both legality (doctrines of law) and ethics (the ability
of a person to lead a well-lived life), particularly since both legal
doctrine and a well-lived life also bear some relationship to the
dictates of impartial morality, while yet remaining in some way
distinct from impartial morality. Its seemingly straightforward
structure also obscures the risk for philosophical legal ethics of
drawing implications from ethics for law, or from law for ethics, even
where those implications may be unwarranted or actively problematic.</font><br /></div></div>
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        <title>A Right to a Public Record's Metadata?</title>
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        <published>2009-11-01T18:03:28-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-01T21:38:01-05:00</updated>
        <summary>There is such a right, according to the Arizona Supreme Court. (See also here and here. The opinion is here.) The issue is a bit different from the legal ethics version of the problem that we have long debated (i.e.,...</summary>
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            <name>Andrew Perlman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>There is such a right, according to the <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/lobbyists-beware-arizona-rules-metadata-is-public-record.ars">Arizona Supreme Court</a>.  (See also <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/metadata">here</a> and <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j7Pv4GxmVPmMxHAPCnllDd0LyPJQD9BKT7M00">here</a>.  The opinion is <a href="http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009/10/david-lake-metadata-case.pdf">here</a>.)  </p><p>The issue is a bit different from the <a href="http://www.legalethicsforum.com/blog/2009/10/vermont-chimes-in-on-metadata.html">legal ethics version of the problem</a> that we have long debated (i.e., whether lawyers can look at the metadata in an opponent's electronic documents).  The Arizona Supreme Court addressed whether the public has a right to see the metadata contained in electronic versions of public records, which might reveal (for example) whether a lobbyist drafted a particular report or memorandum.</p><p>I don't know much about public records law, but this sounds like the right answer to me.  If a document is a public record, the public should be able to find out who authored the document, who edited it, when it was created, etc., assuming that the information is embedded in the public record itself.</p><p>Thanks to former student, Adam Holland, for alerting me to the story.</p></div>
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        <title>Odds and ends (November 1, 2009)</title>
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        <published>2009-11-01T11:53:14-05:00</published>
        <updated>2009-11-01T11:53:14-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Interesting article about legal ethics, "extortion," trying a case in the press, and the David Letterman affair. . . . . Following the fall of Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, the lawyer who leaked emails to the press was subject to...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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        <title>Saturday's MPRE test and the revised MR 1.10</title>
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        <published>2009-10-29T12:43:33-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-29T12:43:33-04:00</updated>
        <summary>I've frequently been asked this question, so I thought I'd post it. Does this Saturday's MPRE test cover the new version of MR 1.10(a) that was passed this August (and was the subject of an on-again, off-again amendment in the...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">I've frequently been asked this question, so I thought I'd post it.  Does this Saturday's MPRE test cover the new version of MR 1.10(a) that was passed this August (and was the subject of an on-again, off-again amendment in the Spring)?  <a href="http://www.ncbex.org/uploads/user_docrepos/MPRE_IB2009_02.pdf">According to page 35 of the MPRE's information booklet</a>, and according to someone at the MPRE with whom I just spoke on the phone, the MPRE test incorporates rule changes no earlier than one year after they are approved.  So, this Saturday they will be testing the version of 1.10(a) that was in place October 2008, which is the version that does not permit unilateral ethical screens when a lawyer moves from private practice to private practice.</div>
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    <entry>
        <title>The Ethics of Experting</title>
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        <published>2009-10-28T20:35:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-28T20:35:00-04:00</updated>
        <summary>I have only in the last year or two really done much experting (I mostly spent my time counseling firms to avoid problems, when I'm not teaching, writing, speaking, or just hanging). Frankly, I've seen some people that I respect,...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>David Hricik</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I have only in the last year or two really done much experting (I mostly spent my time counseling firms to avoid problems, when I'm not teaching, writing, speaking, or just hanging).  Frankly, I've seen some people that I respect, or respected, say some things that just are flat wrong, and that they would never say in public.</p><p>Perhaps I'm Polly-Anna-ish (sp?), but when it comes to ethics, saying things in an ethics report that are flat wrong -- that you would never say in public -- seems, well, unethical.</p><p>Just an observation, but I wonder if the rest of  you have noticed?  I know that sometimes we are blinded by our own views, but I've read some real doozies.</p><p>Any thoughts?</p></div>
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        <title>Ben Kuehne in the clear?</title>
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        <published>2009-10-28T16:46:01-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-28T16:46:18-04:00</updated>
        <summary>The Wall Street Journal's Law Blog has the details about good news for criminal defense attorney Ben Kuehne, who was accused of committing a crime by writing an opinion letter about another attorney's receipt of fees from a client.</summary>
        <author>
            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">The Wall Street Journal's Law Blog <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/10/28/kuehne-boon-11th-cir-upholds-dismissal-of-key-charge-against-miami-lawyer/">has the details</a> about good news for criminal defense attorney Ben Kuehne, who was accused of committing a crime by writing an opinion letter about another attorney's receipt of fees from a client.</div>
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        <title>Elina Tetelbaum: "Is it ethical for a law firm to remove a lawyer from a case because a jury might be prejudiced against that lawyer?"</title>
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        <published>2009-10-28T13:43:38-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-29T13:16:17-04:00</updated>
        <summary>This student article is based upon the well-known hypothetical -- the Karen Horowitz Dilemma -- penned by our own Stephen Gillers and included in his textbook. The hypo generates great classroom discussions about the relative importance of winning a case...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1481340">This student article</a> is based upon the well-known hypothetical -- the Karen Horowitz Dilemma -- penned by our own Stephen Gillers and included in his <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Regulation-Lawyers-Stephen-Gillers/dp/0735579695">textbook</a>.  The hypo generates great classroom discussions about the relative importance of winning a case for a client and combating prejudice.  Abstract</p><p><span style="font-family: Trebuchet, Tahoma, 'Myriad Roman', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; " /></p><blockquote><span size="2" style="font-family: Myriad Roman, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif;;">Is it ethical for a law firm to remove a lawyer from a case because a jury might be prejudiced against that lawyer? What if considering the attorney’s demographic identity would maximize the client’s chances of litigation success? This Note explores the tension between the duty of zealous advocacy and the anti-discrimination principles within the legal profession. It concludes that current ethical rules governing litigation tactics do not meaningfully guide firms in deciding which principle should triumph in the context of staffing cases. Without guidance from the Model Rules of Professional Conduct or the Model Code of Professional Responsibility, law firms may engage in practices that can severely limit litigation opportunities for attorneys with attributes that have been historically discriminated against. The Note proposes ways that the legal profession might regulate conduct pertaining to attorney’s identity-baggage in litigation.</span></blockquote><p /><p><span style="font-family: Trebuchet, Tahoma, 'Myriad Roman', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br /></span></span></p></div>
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        <title>Moral Freaks: Lawyers' Ethics in Academic Perspective</title>
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        <published>2009-10-27T15:50:53-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-29T13:16:33-04:00</updated>
        <summary>That's the title of a new article by Columbia's Bill Simon. This is the abstract: Much recent academic discussion exaggerates the distance between plausible legal ethics and ordinary morality. This essay criticizes three prominent strands of discussion: one drawing on...</summary>
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            <name>Andrew Perlman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>That's the title of a new article by <a href="http://www.law.columbia.edu/fac/William_Simon">Columbia's Bill Simon</a>.  This is the abstract:<span size="3" style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><em><br /></em></span></p><p class="blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><em>Much recent
academic discussion exaggerates the distance between plausible legal ethics
and ordinary morality.  This essay criticizes three prominent strands
of discussion: one drawing on the moral philosophy of personal virtue,
one drawing on legal philosophy, and a third drawing on utilitarianism
of the law-and-economics variety. The discussion uses as a central reference
point the “Mistake-of-Law” scenario in which a lawyer must decide whether
to rescue an opposing party from the unjust consequences of his own lawyer’s
error.  I argue that academic efforts to shore up the professional
inclination against rescue are not plausible.  I conclude by recommending
an older jurisprudential tradition in which legal ethics is more convergent
with ordinary morality.  </em></font><br /></p><p>You can download the article <span class="asset asset-generic at-xid-6a00d8341cb84553ef0120a67cd2af970c"><a href="http://www.legalethicsforum.com/files/jurlaw10.pdf">here</a></span>. </p></div>
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        <title>GAO report on cost of law school: blame USN&amp;WR, not ABA</title>
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        <published>2009-10-27T15:29:27-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-27T15:29:27-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Report here. News article here. One of the key issues is the effect of cost on minority enrollment. The GAO reports that "most" law schools don't blame the ABA's accreditation standards as having an impact on minority access.</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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        <title>The MPRE</title>
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        <published>2009-10-26T20:31:53-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-27T06:43:02-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Mercer students tell me that they can spend 3.5 hours (less than the full length of the video) watching the MPRE prep video and pass the test. The test, to me, seems to be, as a result, somewhat... unnecessary. I...</summary>
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            <name>David Hricik</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Mercer students tell me that they can spend 3.5 hours (less than the full length of the video) watching the MPRE prep video and pass the test.  The test, to me, seems to be, as a result, somewhat... unnecessary.  I remember when I took it, 30 years ago (sigh), and thinking then that it is a waste of time.  Is there a move away from it, or from reforming the test to provide meaningful insight into the "ethics" of the candidates?  I don't know how a multiple choice test can accomplish that...  Anyone?</div>
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        <title>South Carolina issues Opinion on Links to Attorney Profiles</title>
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        <published>2009-10-26T13:46:54-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-26T13:46:54-04:00</updated>
        <summary>The South Carolina bar association addressed a hypothetical website that listed attorneys without their involvement, and allows "clients" and others to "rate" the attorney. The bar association held that a lawyer could claim his listing in this service, but that...</summary>
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            <name>David Hricik</name>
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&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;blockquote cite="mid:7E31CCD6F620FD4FB772E8E8AAB1D0B916D8E51621@lawdopey.law.mercer.local" type="cite"&gt;&lt;p class="Section1 "&gt;&lt;p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.75pt; line-height: 14.4pt; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "&gt;The South Carolina bar association addressed a hypothetical website that listed attorneys without their involvement, and allows &amp;quot;clients&amp;quot; and others to &amp;quot;rate&amp;quot; the attorney.&amp;#0160; The bar association held that a lawyer could claim his listing in this service, but that all comments made about him were subject to the advertising rules.&amp;#0160; &amp;quot;[A]ll content in a claimed listing must conform to&amp;quot; the advertising rules, so held the opinion. It also basically says a lawyer can&amp;#39;t solicit improper endorsements, and so on.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.75pt; line-height: 14.4pt; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "&gt;Frankly, this one baffles me.&amp;#0160; I can understand why you can&amp;#39;t ask someone to say something about you that you can&amp;#39;t yourself say, because of Rule 8.4, but am I really under an obligation to make sure non-clients comply with the lawyer advertising rules?&amp;#0160; Stay tuned, but in the meanwhile, you South Carolina lawyers better go read your various listings, I suppose including Face book!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.75pt; line-height: 14.4pt; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "&gt;It&amp;#39;s not online yet, but presumably shortly will be&amp;#0160;&lt;a href="http://www.scbar.org/member_resources/ethics_advisory_opinions/&amp;amp;search=1?stub=1&amp;amp;year=2009&amp;amp;opinion=&amp;amp;keywords=&amp;amp;submit=Submit" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; " target="_blank" title="SC Bar Ethics Page"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;#0160;If you want a copy, email me at hricik_d@law.mercer.edu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.75pt; line-height: 14.4pt; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.75pt; line-height: 14.4pt; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.75pt; line-height: 14.4pt; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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        <title>Kevin Michels: "Internal Corporate Investigations and the Truth"</title>
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        <published>2009-10-26T12:28:57-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-26T12:28:57-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Kevin Michel's new paper is here. Abstract: In 2008, nearly half of all United States public companies commissioned outside counsel to conduct at least one internal investigation. The corporation, government officials, courts, shareholders and the public rely on investigative reports...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://"><a href="http://www.tcnj.edu/~business/faculty/Michels.html">Kevin Michel's</a></a><a> </a>new paper is <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1481412">here</a>.  Abstract:</p><p><blockquote><span style="font-family: Trebuchet, Tahoma, 'Myriad Roman', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">In 2008, nearly half of all United States public companies commissioned outside counsel to conduct at least one internal investigation. The corporation, government officials, courts, shareholders and the public rely on investigative reports in assessing matters of unquestioned importance – allegations of material wrongdoing against the corporation. This article asks whether the internal-investigation entails a special commitment to the truth. There is reason for concern. While the American legal system has long presumed that the clash of adversaries is the best guarantor of truth, the investigator stands alone, implicitly asking us to accept her unilateral efforts as trustworthy. The investigator, however, is retained and compensated by the corporation that is the subject of the allegations – raising troubling questions about loyalty, accountability and conflicting objectives. </span></blockquote></p><blockquote><span style="font-family: Trebuchet, Tahoma, 'Myriad Roman', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br />The article begins by asking which internal investigations pose special concerns about truth and reliability. From the attorney-ethics rules, corporation law and statutory obligations, it develops two categories of investigations that warrant the imposition of special truth standards: the reliance investigation – an investigation delivered to a third party; and a duty investigation – an investigation undertaken to satisfy a corporate duty of inquiry. <br /><br />The article next identifies the core commitment of reliance and duty investigations: to provide as nearly as practicable an accurate account of the facts, the legal standards and their application. This, in turn, raises the question of what it means to be accurate in a legal inquiry, given the interpretative range of most legal matters. The article looks to philosophy, jurisprudence and historiography – disciplines that have struggled with questions about truth and objectivity – to explain and refine the accuracy standard. Accuracy, the article contends, is not only a viable standard to guide the investigation, it warrants commitment to a series of procedural truth standards proposed herein that substantially enhance the prospects of an accurate account – independence, sufficient inquiry, evidentiary reliability, and professional judgment. Despite the emphasis of lawmakers and courts, independence alone is not enough; it is only one of the procedural truth standards that serve the core substantive standard – accuracy. <br /><br />The truth standards require attention to: conflicts relating to investigator's role, client commitments that blur truth seeking and client protection, the scope and depth of the investigation, the reliability of the evidence gathered, questions of emphasis in developing a narrative account, adherence to professional standards of interpretation in forming legal conclusions, and client-imposed constraints on the reporting of investigation results. The standards also have important implications for the degree of certainty claimed by the report, the obligations of investigators when they cannot satisfy the truth standards, and the tort obligations of investigative counsel. Even more important, a deeper understanding of the investigative role will increase the prospects that those who receive and rely on investigative reports – the corporation, courts, shareholders, the government and the public – will have the benefit of an accurate account.</span></blockquote></div>
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        <title>Criminal defense lawyer reveals confidences of executed client?</title>
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        <published>2009-10-25T18:20:05-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-25T18:42:05-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Dave Hoffman at Concurring Opinions posted this, about an interview with David, Martin, the criminal defense counsel for the since-executed Cameron Todd Willingham. Since the execution, arson experts have argued that the original arson report relied upon theories that were...</summary>
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            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Dave Hoffman at Concurring Opinions posted <a href="http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2009/10/no-loyalty-to-dead-clients.html">this</a>, about an interview with David, Martin, the criminal defense counsel for the since-executed Cameron Todd Willingham.  Since the execution, arson experts have argued that the original arson report relied upon theories that were discredited just before (or about the same time) as the trial.  The matter has received a lot of attention recently, and is often presented as a case where an innocent man was executed.  I don't want to get into the innocence question, but rather want to ask whether the defense counsel violated any ethical rules in the interview.  Texas's confidentiality rule is <a href="http://www.law.uh.edu/libraries/ethics/trpc/1.05.html">here</a>.</p><p>The lawyer is presumably motivated at least in part to rebut the implicit allegation that he should have knocked out the arson report against his client and should have saved his client's life.  But there's no malpractice or discipline claim against the lawyer, so I can't conclude that he is justified by (c)(5) or (6).  (Under the ABA approach to that exception, the comments provide that a lawyer can defend herself even before formal claims or charges are filed, but Texas doesn't have similar comments.  And my intuition -- unburdened by research at this point -- is that the public embarrassment of the recent media coverage is not enough to trigger the ABA's preventative disclosure anyway.)  </p><p>Even if we apply the broad duty of confidentiality, some of what the lawyer said is common place following a noteworthy trial; he said, for example, that the prosecutor introduced this evidence or that evidence against my client.  He suggested that the arson report wasn't the only evidence that was introduced.</p><p>The lawyer repeatedly emphasizes that he conducted tests that inculpated his client.  I can't think of why the lawyer would be entitled to reveal that to the world.  It relates to the representation and is detrimental to the client.</p><p>But much of the interview consists of the lawyer attacking the validity of a new report and arguing that the report was biased and based upon distant, second-hand knowledge of the case.  That part of the lawyer's comments don't fit easily into a breach of confidentiality, do they?  </p><p>The dynamic is the one that sometimes occurs when a capital defendant asserts ineffective assistance of counsel and the lawyer defends herself.  I assume that there is case law and secondary literature on that issue.  Here, of course, the lawyer can't say that he has been accused by his client of ineffectiveness.</p><p>What do you all think?  (One of my thoughts is that Anderson Cooper needed to be better prepared.)</p><br /><p /><p /><p /><p align="center" class="asset asset-video" style="display: block; margin: 0 auto;"><object height="344" width="425"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/L5cFKpjRnXE&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><embed allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/L5cFKpjRnXE&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" /></object></p><p /></div>
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        <title>Prosecutors Subpoena Students' Grades in Innocence Project</title>
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        <published>2009-10-25T12:44:10-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-25T12:44:10-04:00</updated>
        <summary>At Northwestern University, the Innocence Project has submitted evidence, including videotapes of witnesses’ testimony, exonerating Anthony McKinney, who has been in prison since his conviction in 1978. This evidence was obtained by various students in the Innocence Project over a...</summary>
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            <name>Monroe Freedman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>At Northwestern University, the Innocence Project has submitted evidence, including videotapes of witnesses’ testimony, exonerating Anthony McKinney, who has been in prison since his conviction in 1978.  This evidence was obtained by various students in the Innocence Project over a three-year period.  The issue of McKinney’s innocence is being considered by a judge.</p><p>We know that investigators can affect evidence, including witness testimony, in subtle and not-so-subtle ways.  On that theory, the prosecutors have subpoenaed the students’ investigative memoranda, e-mail messages, notes of interviews with witnesses, and the students’ class grades.  The prosecutors’ suspect that the students received better grades for obtaining exonerating information, and that the students therefore had an incentive to skew the evidence.  Accordingly, the information that the prosecutors seek should be made available to the court.</p><p>I’m inclined to think that the prosecutors have a point.  They know, better than most people, how arrest quotas, clearance rates, and convictions can affect the careers of police and prosecutors, providing an incentive to influence evidence supporting convictions.  A decision supporting the subpoenas in this case, therefore, could be an important precedent on behalf of defendants in criminal cases.</p></div>
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        <title>Prosecutor Disbelieves Alleged Victim, So Offers Plea Deal</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341cb84553ef0120a61248fc970b</id>
        <published>2009-10-22T07:59:48-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-22T07:59:48-04:00</updated>
        <summary>The NYT reports today on the recantation of charges of rape and torture by a woman in W.Va. Six people pleaded guilty and are serving long sentences. The prosecutor explained that he offered the plea agreements because he was skeptical...</summary>
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            <name>Monroe Freedman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>The NYT reports today on the recantation of charges of rape and torture by a woman in W.Va.  Six people pleaded guilty and are serving long sentences.</p><p>The prosecutor explained that he offered the plea agreements because he was skeptical of the alleged victim’s testimony.  Her story “grew and changed,” he said, and “we stopped relying on anything she said.”</p><p>When the prosecutor disbelieves the testimony of the alleged victim, who is his only eye witness, isn’t the proper course to dismiss the charges rather than to offer a plea?</p></div>
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        <title>Revocation of Kerik's Bail</title>
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        <published>2009-10-22T07:46:43-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-22T07:46:43-04:00</updated>
        <summary>I’m no fan of Bernard Kerik, but I’m wondering about the propriety of the revocation of his bail, and his imprisonment, on the judge’s finding that he had leaked information to the public that the judge had ordered sealed. It...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Monroe Freedman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I’m no fan of Bernard Kerik, but I’m wondering about the propriety of the revocation of his bail, and his imprisonment, on the judge’s finding that he had leaked information to the public that the judge had ordered sealed.  It seems clear from the report in the NYT that the judge didn’t revoke Kerik’s bail because he is a flight risk.  Rather, it looks like a punishment for contempt of court for conduct outside the courtroom.  If so, did the judge charge Kerik with contempt, and was there a hearing to establish contempt?</p></div>
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        <title>Thinking about loyalty</title>
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        <published>2009-10-21T17:32:22-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-21T17:32:22-04:00</updated>
        <summary>I just returned home from the just finished and entirely fantastic Hofstra Law conference organized by co-blogger Roy Simon, "Power, Politics and Public Service: The Legal Ethics of Lawyers in Government". On the last day of the conference Robert Mundheim...</summary>
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            <name>Alice Woolley</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I just returned home from the just finished and entirely fantastic Hofstra Law conference organized by co-blogger Roy Simon, "Power, Politics and Public Service: The Legal Ethics of Lawyers in Government".  On the last day of the conference Robert Mundheim presented a paper  "A Treasury of General Counsel Experience: The (First) Chrysler Bail-Out, the (First) Iranian Hostage Negotiations, and Some 'Salomonic' Wisdom".  In his talk he discussed the difficulty for organizational lawyers in determining who is the client, and whose interests can legitimately be pursued in the provision of legal advice.</p>
<p>This paper caused me to reflect on the nature of loyalty as a lawyerly obligation.  Because (thought I) loyalty in the context of legal ethics (and ethics generally) is asserted as a moral principle, as something that one owes to one's client as a matter of obligation (the lawyer's) and right (the client's).  Yet loyalty is also something that a person feels, it is an emotional response to people, places and things with whom one has a relationship.  I feel loyalty to a sports team, for example, although it is difficult to see any modern sports franchise as being the proper subject of obligation or right (especially the dreadful teams I've always supported - go Canucks!).</p>
<p>And I wonder if part of the reason lawyers run into ethical problems is when either their moral obligation of loyalty and their emotional experience of loyalty end up in tension, or when their moral obligation of loyalty and their emotional experience of loyalty end up too closely intertwined.  So that an organizational lawyer runs into problems when he feels loyalty to one set of people or interests, but his actual moral obligation is to another set of people or interests, but a family law lawyer may run into problems when his emotional loyalty heightens his moral obligation of loyalty to the point where it blinds him to counter-vailing moral obligations such as respect for legality.</p>
<p>Which in turn makes me wonder whether some of the problems for organizational lawyers could be assisted by helping to enhance the emotional connection between those lawyers and the interests they are properly supposed to represent.  I am thinking of, e.g., ensuring that in-house counsel have contact with the board of directors from time to time, even socially.  I am less sure how one could disrupt the emotional loyalty where it tends to create excessive zeal, except through the conflict rule (here at least) which directs the lawyer not to act if excessive personal commitment impairs her judgment.</p>
<p>Anyone else have any thoughts?</p></div>
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        <title>Texas Supreme Court puts out New Rules for Comment</title>
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        <published>2009-10-20T19:36:18-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-20T19:36:18-04:00</updated>
        <summary>I've only had a chance to glance at them, but they are still remarkably distinct from the Model Rules in some respects. And, from what I saw on first glance at least, they appear to have eliminated Texas's infamous "you...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>David Hricik</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">I've only had a chance to glance at them, but they are still remarkably distinct from the Model Rules in some respects.  And, from what I saw on first glance at least, they appear to have eliminated Texas's infamous "you can sue a current client in an unrelated matter" rule.  The text is <a href="http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/tx/discipline.pdf" target="_blank" title="Proposed Tx Rules">here</a>.</div>
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        <title>The Ethics of Corporate Investigations</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341cb84553ef0120a658b53c970c</id>
        <published>2009-10-20T15:09:48-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-20T15:09:42-04:00</updated>
        <summary>I was recently a panelist at the Association of Corporate Counsel's annual conference, and someone in the audience posed an interesting hypothetical. Imagine that in-house counsel is conducting an internal investigation and speaks with an employee whose conduct may have...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Andrew Perlman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I was recently a panelist at the Association of Corporate Counsel's annual conference, and someone in the audience posed an interesting hypothetical.  </p><p>Imagine that in-house counsel is conducting an internal investigation and speaks with an employee whose conduct may have been unlawful.  The employee does not have her own counsel, so the in-house lawyer makes clear to the employee that the lawyer represents the company and not the employee herself. So far, so good.  </p><p>But now let's imagine that the employee is reluctant to speak with the lawyer.  The lawyer then says to the employee, "You are subject to the company's employment policies, which require you to speak with me about this matter."  </p><p>Several audience members were convinced that such a statement was both commonplace and ethically permissible.  It was my position that such a statement, which appears to be giving legal advice to an unrepresented (and potentially adverse) party regarding her obligations under the employment policy, could be unethical under <a href="http://www.abanet.org/cpr/mrpc/rule_4_3.html">Rule 4.3</a>.    What do you think?  </p></div>
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        <title>Prosecutorial Misconduct (and Gall)</title>
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        <published>2009-10-20T10:44:50-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-20T10:44:50-04:00</updated>
        <summary>In the prosecution of Rod Blagojevich, federal prosecutors have complained to the judge that the former governor is tainting the jury pool with pretrial publicity, and have asked for a gag order. (NYT, 10/2009). What gall! Almost a year ago,...</summary>
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            <name>Monroe Freedman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>In the prosecution of Rod Blagojevich, federal prosecutors have complained to the judge that the former governor is tainting the jury pool with pretrial publicity, and have asked for a gag order.  (NYT, 10/2009).</p><p>What gall!  Almost a year ago, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald held a news conference that succeeded in convicting Blagojevich without due process.  (The same Fitzgerald was commendably scrupulous in avoiding pretrial publicity in the Scooter Libbey case.)  Fitzgerald announced on television that Blagojevich was guilty of a "staggering" level of corruption, and that he had engaged in a “political corruption crime spree.”  Since then, Blagojevich has exercised his First Amendment right to try to defend himself against the criminal conviction that has already taken place, at least in the news media and in the minds of the public.</p><p>As belatedly recognized in Model Rule 3.8, in language adopted from the American Lawyers Code of Conduct (1980), Fitzgerald’s conduct was unethical.  – Any bets on the likelihood of disciplinary action against Fitzgerald?</p></div>
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        <title>DOJ and the proposed rules on providing discovery</title>
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        <published>2009-10-20T10:35:35-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-20T10:35:35-04:00</updated>
        <summary>In the wake of the botched prosecution of Senator Ted Stevens, the DOJ is revising policy regarding discovery -- although some question whether the DOJ is going far enough.</summary>
        <author>
            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">In the wake of the botched prosecution of Senator Ted Stevens, the DOJ is revising policy regarding discovery -- <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202434690374">although some question whether the DOJ is going far enough.</a></div>
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    <entry>
        <title>Bill Henderson and Andrew Morriss: What [law school] rankings don't say about costly choices </title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341cb84553ef0120a656d561970c</id>
        <published>2009-10-19T22:04:19-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-19T22:04:19-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Inaccurate perceptions by law school applicants and law students, especially concerning the odds of getting a lucrative biglaw job, lead them to make dumb choices.</summary>
        <author>
            <name>John Steele</name>
        </author>
        
        
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    <entry>
        <title>Qualcomm rehearing date?  (Is it January 13-15, 2010?)</title>
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        <published>2009-10-19T16:54:04-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-19T16:54:04-04:00</updated>
        <summary>I've been getting lots of questions about the status of the Qualcomm v. Broadcom matter, and in particular about when the long-awaited rehearing will be held. I've been told it's set for January 13-15, 2010, but cannot confirm it. Does...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">I've been getting lots of questions about the status of the <em>Qualcomm v. Broadcom</em> matter, and in particular about when the long-awaited rehearing will be held.  I've been told it's set for January 13-15, 2010, but cannot confirm it.  Does anyone out there know?</div>
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        <title>Fifth Circuit pondering "irrebuttable imputation of all confidences" for laterals?</title>
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        <published>2009-10-19T13:56:51-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-19T14:04:55-04:00</updated>
        <summary>News stories here and here suggest that the Fifth Circuit is deciding whether there is an irrebuttable presumption that a departing lawyer gained all of his prior firm's confidences. There's only one sane way to rule on that issue. I...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>News stories <a href="http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdaily/2009/10/texas-case.html">here</a> and <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202434688360&amp;th_Circuit_to_Interpret_DepartingLawyer_Rule&amp;hbxlogin=1">here</a> suggest that the Fifth Circuit is deciding whether there is an irrebuttable presumption that a departing lawyer gained <em>all</em> of his prior firm's confidences.  There's only one sane way to rule on that issue. I know that the federal appellate courts rarely get DQ issues these days, and I've heard the conventional wisdom that fewer and fewer federal judges have a deep understanding of private legal practice, so I hope that the Fifth Circuit has the resources to understand what's at issue here.</p><p /></div>
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        <title>Odd and ends (October 16, 2009)</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341cb84553ef0120a5ed4f22970b</id>
        <published>2009-10-16T12:08:30-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-16T12:09:29-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Story here about a plaintiffs lawyer's rough day before a Ninth Circuit disciplinary panel. . . . . In the UK, the Law Lords have been replaced by a newly created Supreme Court. . . . . . Fulbright has...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>John Steele</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/ca/PubArticleCA.jsp?id=1202434648057&amp;Discipline_Target_Digs_Hole_a_Little_Deeper">Story here</a> about a plaintiffs lawyer's rough day before a Ninth Circuit disciplinary panel.    . . . .    In the UK, the Law Lords have been replaced by a newly created <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/law/international/LawArticleIntl.jsp?id=1202434297131&amp;Britains_New_Supreme_Court_Swings_Into_Action_as_Recently_Minted_Justices_Consider_First_Case">Supreme Court</a>.    . . . . .    Fulbright <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202434639340&amp;Litigation_Trends_Survey_of_InHouse_Counsel_Offers_a_Little_Reason_for__Optimism">has just released</a> its annual <a href="http://www.fulbright.com/litigationtrends28">Litigation Trends report</a>.</div>
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        <title>Red State/Blue State</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341cb84553ef0120a5e99c8b970b</id>
        <published>2009-10-15T14:30:08-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-15T14:30:08-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Perhaps apropos of Brad's recent post regarding the teaching of morals in law school, Fordham Law School's Stein Center for Law and Ethics has just released the film Red State/Blue State: Lawyers, Politics &amp; Moral Counseling (available along with a...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>Steven Berenson</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Perhaps apropos of Brad's recent post regarding the teaching of morals in law school, Fordham Law School's Stein Center for Law and Ethics has just released the film Red State/Blue State: Lawyers, Politics &amp; Moral Counseling (available along with a teacher's guide at <a href="http://www.law.fordham.edu/redstatebluestate">www.law.fordham.edu/redstatebluestate</a>).  This film is based on Professor Russell Pearce's earlier article The Legal Profession as a Blue State: Reflections on Public Philosophy, Jurisprudence, and Legal Ethics, 75 Fordham L. Rev. 1339 (2006) (available <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=988196">here</a> on SSRN).  Both reject the profession's "neutral partisanship" and "non-accountability" tenets in favor of lawyers bringing a stronger sense of their own moral views into their practices.</p>
<p>Red State/Blue State follows up on Pearce's earlier venture into film, Revitalizing the Lawyer Poet: What Lawyers Can Learn from Rock and Roll, which offered a critique of legal professionalism.  Though I have taken issue with the substance of the views expressed in the ealier film (see <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=984950">here</a>), I greatly admire Pearce and his colleagues at the Stein Center (including Director Bruce Green) for expanding the boundaries of traditional legal scholarship and employing new and varying forms of media to enrich the discussion of these important issues in the law school classroom and beyond.  For what it's worth, my own views are much more in line with those expressed in Red State/Blue State than with those expressed in the earlier film.</p>
<p>Finally, the film includes on camera interviews with many luminaries from the field of legal ethics - must see viewing for the readers of this blog.</p>
<p>Well done Russ.</p>
<p>Steve B.</p></div>
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        <title>Hricik and Steele to Actually Meet!</title>
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        <published>2009-10-15T10:17:40-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-15T10:17:40-04:00</updated>
        <summary>John and I are speaking at an insurance company seminar, on ethical issues in IP practice, later today in San Francisco. For two people who have "known" each other for years, it will be good to put a face with...</summary>
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            <name>David Hricik</name>
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        <title>S.Ct. Justices on Trial Judges &amp; Trial Lawyering</title>
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        <published>2009-10-15T09:41:08-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-15T09:41:08-04:00</updated>
        <summary>From: High Court Justices Doubt Lawyers Should Be Paid Extra for Winning, Tony Mauro, The National Law Journal, October 15, 2009 Justice Alito on the quality and honesty of trial judges: “Justice Samuel Alito Jr. said he was ‘very troubled’...</summary>
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            <name>Monroe Freedman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>From: High Court Justices Doubt Lawyers Should Be Paid Extra for Winning, Tony Mauro, The National Law Journal, October 15, 2009</p><p>Justice Alito on the quality and honesty of trial judges:</p><p>“Justice Samuel Alito Jr. said he was ‘very troubled’ by the notion of a judge taking 4-plus million dollars from the taxpayers of Georgia and giving it as a bonus to the lawyers in the case for good performance. ‘It seems totally standardless,’ Alito said. ‘I see a great danger that trial judges are going to use this as a way of favoring their favorite nonprofit foundation or their favorite cause or their favorite attorney.’”</p><p>And Chief Justice Roberts on the unimportance of trial lawyering skills, including fact investigation and developing a theory of the case:</p><p>“Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. even challenged the premise behind fee enhancements: that better lawyering can achieve better results.  ‘The results that are obtained are presumably the results that are dictated or commanded or required under the law,’ Roberts said. ‘It's not like, well, you had a really good attorney, so I'm going to say the law means this ... but if you had a bad lawyer, I would say the law says this.’”</p></div>
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        <title>The ethics of posting on legal ethics websites</title>
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        <published>2009-10-14T19:59:21-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-14T19:59:21-04:00</updated>
        <summary>So let's say there's a discussion going on about a case in which I've been consulted but no one other than the client and its counsel knows I've been consulted and I am not free to reveal that fact (or...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">So let's say there's a discussion going on about a case in which I've been consulted but no one other than the client and its counsel knows I've been consulted and I am not free to reveal that fact (or do not wish to do so). Can I participate in the discussion without revealing my interest, so to speak? Of must I remain out of it? </div>
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        <title>Incompetence on the Supreme Court</title>
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        <published>2009-10-14T07:50:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-14T07:50:00-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Tony Mauro, The National Law Journal, October 14, 2009 Lawyer competence was the topic of the day at the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday, as justices heard two cases involving claims of ineffective assistance of counsel that violated the Sixth...</summary>
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            <name>Monroe Freedman</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Tony Mauro, The National Law Journal, October 14, 2009</p><p>Lawyer competence was the topic of the day at the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday, as justices heard two cases involving claims of ineffective assistance of counsel that violated the Sixth Amendment.</p><p>In one, a lawyer's flawed advice exposed his client to deportation. In the other, the defense lawyer in a capital case called his client sick and twisted during a closing argument, and minimized mitigating evidence that might have helped avoid the death penalty.</p><p>In the first case, Padilla v. Kentucky, a lawyer told his client Jose Padilla, a permanent resident alien arrested for drug trafficking, that pleading guilty as part of a plea agreement would not expose him to deportation. That advice was flat wrong.</p><p>Padilla sued in 2004, claiming ineffective assistance that deprived him of his constitutional rights. But the Kentucky Supreme Court ruled that incorrect advice on matters that are collateral to the criminal case don't make out a case of ineffective assistance under the Supreme Court's Strickland v. Washington standard.</p><p>Most U.S. Supreme Court justices seemed wary of expanding the definition of ineffective assistance to include flawed advice on matters beyond the actual criminal case the lawyer is handling.</p><p>"We have to decide whether we are opening a Pandora's box here," said Justice Antonin Scalia, who said flawed advice about the effect of a guilty plea on child custody could be another issue defendants would raise.</p><p>Justice Stephen Breyer also said, "The world is filled with 42 billion circumstances" that could trigger ineffective-assistance claims for other reasons.</p><p>Stephen Kinnaird of Paul, Hastings, Janofsky &amp; Walker, arguing for Padilla, said deportation is "so severe and so material" that the Court could limit its ruling to advice in that area. "The lawyer has the distinct duty to assess the advantages and disadvantages of the plea."</p><p>Deputy Solicitor General Michael Dreeben told the Court that a criminal defense lawyer does not have a constitutional duty to advise his client about immigration law, but if he or she does and does so incorrectly, "the lawyer has used his professional skills to undermine a personal decision that belongs to the defendant alone."</p><p>The Padilla case is being tracked by immigrant rights advocates who say thousands of immigrants have been put in jeopardy by poor legal representation and advice. "Every day, immigrants are advised to give up their rights and plead guilty to charges that subject them to lifetime exile," said Benita Jain, co-director of the Immigrant Defense Project.</p><p>The second case argued Tuesday was Smith v. Spisak. Frank Spisak Jr. was convicted of murdering three people at Cleveland State University in 1983. During trial, Spisak testified of his Nazi past and showed no remorse for the murders during his trial. He claimed insanity, but was found guilty. At the sentencing stage his lawyer's task was to present mitigating evidence, but instead he emphasized the "clearly horrendous" aggravating circumstances. He even suggested his client did not deserve mitigation and would never be rehabilitated, arguing, "He is demented, and he is never going to be different."</p><p>Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray, trying to knock down the notion that the closing argument amounted to a constitutional deprivation, told the Court that in fact it represented a "coherent strategy" to appeal to jurors' humanity and ask them to spare his client, as demented as he might be.</p><p>Scalia apparently agreed, calling it a "brilliant closing argument" aimed at jurors who were unlikely to be sympathetic toward Spisak. "The technique that counsel used to try to get mercy for this fellow was the best that could have been done."</p><p>Breyer also seemed reluctant to judge whether the argument was constitutionally flawed, stating, "Since there is a lower court that seemed to find this adequate, how can I sit here and say it wasn't?" Spisak's lawyer before the high court, Michael Benza of Chagrin Falls, Ohio, said, "I have been litigating capital cases since 1993. I have never seen a closing argument like this."</p><p>One indicator of how bad the closing argument was came in a brief filed in the case by a group of law professors who are experts on trial advocacy. They told the Court of their "considerable dismay" with the fact that the state of Ohio cited their treatises in arguing that the trial lawyer's strategy was legitimate.</p></div>
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        <title>Federal Jurisdiction over Patent Malpractice Claims: An Interesting New Texas Case</title>
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        <published>2009-10-13T18:17:29-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-13T18:24:51-04:00</updated>
        <summary>In Minton v. Gunn, __ S.W.3d __, 2009 Tex. App. Lexis 7918 (Tex. App. -- Ft. Worth 2009, no pet. h.), the appellate court in a two-to-one decision held that there was no substantial federal question presented where the alleged...</summary>
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            <name>David Hricik</name>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>In Minton v. Gunn, __ S.W.3d __, 2009 Tex. App. Lexis 7918 (Tex. App. -- Ft. Worth 2009, no pet. h.), the appellate court in a two-to-one decision held that there was no substantial federal question presented where the alleged malpractice was the failure of lawyers to argue, in the underlying patent infringement suit, that the alleged on sale bar was subject to the experimental use "exception."  (DIsclaimer: the suit is against my old law firm, but I had nothing to do with the alleged malpractice as, thankfully, I had left that dreary place for a much better place!)  I personally think the line of cases in which the Federal Circuit has held that a substantial federal question exists when the underlying malpractice occurs during patent prosecution or litigation is wrong, but, if it is right, then this case is wrongly decided, in my humble view.</p><p>I don't know what the procedural posture is -- why they're fighting over subject matter jurisdiction -- but the case is one of many pending around the country where federal courts are asserting subject matter jurisdiction over matters involving malpractice in what, seemingly, are state law matters.  The courts have been and are splitting, and this is another example.</p><p>As you all know, the difference between state and federal court can be nearly outcome determinative in some places.... and so the battle wages.</p></div>
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        <title>A "Right" to Inadvertent Disclosures?</title>
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        <published>2009-10-13T16:35:50-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-10-13T16:35:50-04:00</updated>
        <summary>Stephen Gillers and I are co-writing this post. Here is Stephen's portion: At the Akron conference last week, Andy Perlman argued that the rule on whether a lawyer who receives an electronic document may mine for metadata should be the...</summary>
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            <name>Andrew Perlman</name>
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&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Stephen Gillers and I are co-writing this post.&amp;#0160; Here is Stephen&amp;#39;s portion:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;At the Akron conference last week, Andy Perlman argued that the
rule on whether a lawyer who receives an electronic document may mine for
metadata should be the same as the jurisdiction&amp;#39;s rule on whether a lawyer may knowingly
read a fax or e-mail intended for the opposing lawyer&amp;#39;s client and sent in
error to the recipient. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#0160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;I asked him what he thought the rule should be, assuming the
rule should be the same in each instance. He said the rule should be that the
lawyer has discretion but not a duty to read the fax or e-mail and look for
metadata.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p class="MsoNormal blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;(Then, I&amp;#0160; asked him about the Ms. Niceperson problem I use
in class and which I will not describe here so as to keep the post of moderate
length. Maybe if this discussion kicks off, I&amp;#39;ll get into that.)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;





&lt;p class="MsoNormal blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Anyway, my position is that a lawyer should not knowingly
read the e-mail or fax or mine for metadata. As we know, authorities go all
ways here.&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;Andy asked why the answer to these questions should differ from
the situation where a plaintiff&amp;#39;s lawyer misses the statute of limitations by a couple of
days. We would hold her to it. We certainly would not forgive the error without
client consent. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;





&lt;p class="MsoNormal blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;I see a difference. The legislature has given the client, the
defendant in the example, a legal right and it is his to waive or not. It&amp;#39;s my
job to enforce it even if I think doing so is morally questionable, which I
probably wouldn&amp;#39;t but we can think of extreme situations and maybe we&amp;#39;ll get
into them.&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think I have an obligation to take advantage of a lawyer&amp;#39;s
or secretary&amp;#39;s error in sending a fax or e-mail. Of course, if the
jurisdiction&amp;#39;s rule said I had to do so, I&amp;#39;d have to do so, but I don&amp;#39;t think
there is such a rule explicitly and would vote not to have one. I don&amp;#39;t think
my zealous advocacy obligation creates such a duty implicitly.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;





&lt;p class="MsoNormal blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;It is true that the misdirected fax or e-mail may constitute
waiver of the privilege (though probably not). If I want to make that claim, however,
I should bring it to the court.&amp;#0160; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;Andy and I thought we should continue this discussion on the
Forum and I prepared this summary for him to post along with his reply. I think
I&amp;#39;ve fairly characterized the exchange but if not, he should correct what I&amp;#39;ve
written.&amp;#0160;&amp;#0160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; color: #000050;"&gt;My reply appears after the jump.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Stephen distinguishes the statute of limitations situation from an inadvertent disclosure by saying that a client has a &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; to assert a statute of limitations defense.&amp;#0160; In contrast, he says that if a secretary misdirects a document, the client has no right to take advantage of that mistake.&amp;#0160; Unless the jurisdiction&amp;#39;s rule &amp;quot;said that [he] had to do so,&amp;quot; he would not read the inadvertently disclosed material.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Stephen&amp;#39;s standard appears to prove too much.&amp;#0160; If lawyers could refuse to pursue a course of conduct unless a law said that the lawyer &amp;quot;had to do so,&amp;quot; a lawyer would not even have to pursue a statute of limitations defense.&amp;#0160; After all, no law says that a defendant &amp;quot;has to do so;&amp;quot; it merely gives a defendant the &lt;em&gt;option&lt;/em&gt; to do so. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What I think Stephen means to say here is that a lawyer should not take a morally questionable action unless there is an independent legal right that affirmatively permits the party to do so.&amp;#0160; But I&amp;#39;m not sure I see why a lawyer needs some some separate, affirmative legal right or authority before pursuing a client&amp;#39;s objectives.&amp;#0160; Obviously, a lawyer should not violate any law, but if reading an inadvertent disclosure is not precluded by any legal authority (e.g., the jurisdiction&amp;#39;s version of Rule 4.4(b) or some equivalent civil procedure rule), it seems to me that the lawyer should be permitted to read the document.&amp;#0160; (Keep in mind here that I am simply arguing for the discretion, not the obligation, to read the document.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Moreover, Stephen&amp;#39;s distinction turns on some notion of client &amp;quot;rights&amp;quot; that are hard to untangle. Why is there a right
to assert a statute of limitations defense, but not a right to all
non-privileged discoverable documents?&amp;#0160; In many jurisdictions,
an inadvertent disclosure results in a waiver of privilege, thus entitling the party to see the document in
question. If a lawyer is in such a jurisdiction, wouldn&amp;#39;t the client have a
&amp;quot;right&amp;quot; to see the inadvertently disclosed privileged documents?&amp;#0160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think what we&amp;#39;re ultimately debating here is the relative attractiveness of allowing lawyers to read misdirected documents, not whether there is an independent right or duty to do so.&amp;#0160; Certainly, in some cases, I think lawyers should decline to read inadvertent disclosures.&amp;#0160; But in other cases, it may be quite desirable.&amp;#0160; Imagine an employment discrimination case in which the defendant has consistently denied firing your client on the grounds of race.&amp;#0160; You receive a misdirected document from opposing counsel entitled: Privileged In-House Investigation Into Systemic Racial Bias in Hiring.&amp;#0160; An extreme example, to be sure, but smoking guns like this pop all of the time as a result of inadvertent disclosures.&amp;#0160; Should a lawyer really not even be *permitted* to look at such a document?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Finally, if we think about this issue in strictly moral terms, consider that the assertion of a statute of limitations defense
has much more devastating consequences for your opponent, because it ends
the case, and a potentially meritorious one at that.&amp;#0160; In contrast, the review of an inadvertent disclosure may not
have such consequences, and if it does, it&amp;#39;s only because you&amp;#39;ve
uncovered some &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot; about the case that was not previously
available.&amp;#0160; Put another way, if you&amp;#39;re thinking about the adverse
consequences of your actions, your opponent would much prefer you to
look at her privileged information than assert a statute of limitations
defense.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At the end of the day, the decision whether to look at an inadvertent disclosure is complicated, and the rule (like the &lt;a href="http://www.abanet.org/cpr/mrpc/rule_4_4.html"&gt;Model Rule&lt;/a&gt;) should acknowledge the nuanced nature of the problem by giving lawyers the discretion as to how to proceed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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