<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?><rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:blogger="http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/" xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0" version="2.0"><channel><atom:id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-940529387582345933</atom:id><lastBuildDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2024 13:26:06 +0000</lastBuildDate><title>Lorin Geitner on Issues of Law and Religion in the News</title><description>Lorin Geitner on Issues of Law and Religion in the News</description><link>http://loringeitner.blogspot.com/</link><managingEditor>noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous)</managingEditor><generator>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>5</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><language>en-us</language><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:keywords>News,Religion,Law</itunes:keywords><itunes:summary>A discussion of recent news stories involving the interface of law and religion, describing both the relevant religion, its beliefs and practices, and principles of law.</itunes:summary><itunes:subtitle>Lorin Geitner on Issues of Law and Religion, in the News</itunes:subtitle><itunes:category text="News &amp; Politics"/><itunes:category text="Religion &amp; Spirituality"/><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"/><itunes:author>Lorin Geitner</itunes:author><itunes:owner><itunes:email>geitner@gmail.com</itunes:email><itunes:name>Lorin Geitner</itunes:name></itunes:owner><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-940529387582345933.post-4739610894920486406</guid><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2018 03:17:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2018-07-14T20:17:40.455-07:00</atom:updated><title>An Introduction:  The Curmudgeon and His Cats</title><description>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/d1LA5ZkbH4w" width="459"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;</description><link>http://loringeitner.blogspot.com/2018/07/an-introduction-curmudgeon-and-his-cats.html</link><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" height="72" url="https://img.youtube.com/vi/d1LA5ZkbH4w/default.jpg" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total><author>geitner@gmail.com (Lorin Geitner)</author></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-940529387582345933.post-7526239247871073936</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-12-12T18:31:45.202-08:00</atom:updated><title/><description>&lt;table&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Description:&lt;/b&gt;  An ordinance in Mitchell county, Iowa, forbade the use of tractors with steel-rim tires on county roads, for the sake of road preservation.  The Groffdale Old Order Mennonites, however, require their members to use just such tires, for religious reasons. &amp;nbsp;When a Mennonite youth received a citation for driving such a tractor on the road, it set off a nearly prototypical Church/State conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
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What do steel-rim tires have to do with religion?  And does the county's concern with preserving roads trump this religious practice, or vice versa?
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&lt;a href="http://voices.yahoo.com/iowa-supreme-court-says-mennonite-steel-wheels-ok-10928102.html"&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/iowa-high-court-overturns-mennonite%E2%80%99s-steel-wheel-citation"&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;.
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&lt;a href="http://www.swissmennonite.org/history/history.html"&gt;Mennonite History&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Legal Precedents:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.iowacourts.gov/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/20120203/10-1932.pdf"&gt;Mitchell County v. Matthew Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/LawAndReligion"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;
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Podcast 3: &amp;nbsp;Catholicism, Fertility Treatments, and the Firing of Non-Catholic Employees for Violation of Catholic Doctrine.&lt;/h2&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Description: &lt;/strong&gt;Two non-Catholic teachers had been fired from Catholic schools, for breaching Catholic doctrine when it comes to acceptable fertility treatments. &amp;nbsp;Has the Catholic Church breached its employment contracts with these teachers? &amp;nbsp;If so, would it still be protected under the ministerial exception?&lt;br /&gt;
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Emily Herx case: &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/26/us/indiana-in-vitro-lawsuit/index.html" target="_blank"&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/emily-herx-on-today-show-st-vincent-de-paul-catholic-school-teacher-claims-firing-over-in-vitro" target="_blank"&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Christa Dias case: &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57408640/ohio-judge-oks-fired-pregnant-teachers-lawsuit/" target="_blank"&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/04/cincinnati_womans_discriminati.html" target="_blank"&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/04/cincinnati_womans_discriminati.html" target="_blank"&gt;3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20081208_dignitas-personae_en.html" style="font-style: italic;" target="_blank"&gt;Dignitas Personae&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20081212_sintesi-dignitas-personae_en.html" target="_blank"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20081212_sintesi-dignitas-personae_en.html" target="_blank"&gt;Summary of Dignitas Personae&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Legal Precedents:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 200%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-553.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;Hosanna-TaborEvangelical Lutheran Church v. EEOC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Subsequent development:&lt;br /&gt;
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When we recorded this podcast, I did not know that &lt;a href="http://thedialog.org/?tag=christa-dias" target="_blank"&gt;a judge had ruled explicitly that Christa Dias had no ministerial duties&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;This will likely take any argument based on the ministerial exception off the table. &amp;nbsp;It remains to be seen whether she will be held liable for violating her employment contract.&lt;br /&gt;
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Podcast 2: Amish Beard Cutters, Hate Crimes, and the Limits of the Commerce Clause&lt;/h3&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Description: &lt;/strong&gt;16 Amish are being tried under a Federal 
Hate Crimes statute in Ohio for cutting the beards of elders in another 
Amish community.  Why such a strange form of assault?  Since this is an 
Amish on Amish crime, does it constitute a hate crime?  And is the 
reliance of the statute on the commerce clause over-reaching, and 
potentially &lt;i&gt;under&lt;/i&gt;-reaching as well?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/04/number_of_amish_indicted_in_be.html"&gt;Number of Amish indicted in beard-cutting attacks grows to 16 with 4 women added&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/02/us-crime-amish-idUSTRE7B126K20111202"&gt;Three men in Amish beard-cutting case waive hearing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/region/charges-stick-to-sect-leader-in-amish-beard-cutting-case-638066/#ixzz20pgINO1U"&gt;Charges stick to sect leader in Amish beard-cutting case&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/region/judge-us-hate-crime-law-applies-to-amish-sect-leader-accused-beard-cutter-638514/#ixzz20pgOyOjV"&gt;Judge: U.S. hate-crime law applies to Amish sect leader, accused beard-cutter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/27769666"&gt;THE MENNONITES AND AMISH&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
John A. Hostetler&lt;br /&gt;
Pennsylvania History , Vol. 23, No. 3 (July, 1956), pp. 330-334&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Legal Precedents:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard_and_James_Byrd,_Jr._Hate_Crimes_Prevention_Act#Division_E"&gt;Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An attorney friend of mine recently brought my attention to this document which sets out other possible ways to structure a Federal hate-crimes law that could be considerably less coherent than reliance on the Commerce Clause:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_621028743"&gt;Congress’s Power to Legislate Control Over&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncpc.org/cms-upload/ncpc/File/hate%20crime%20legislating.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;Hate Crimes: &amp;nbsp;Selected Legal Theories&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;--&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Paul Starett Wallace, Jr.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description><link>http://loringeitner.blogspot.com/2012/07/podcast-2-amish-beard-cutters-hate.html</link><thr:total>3</thr:total><author>geitner@gmail.com (Lorin Geitner)</author></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-940529387582345933.post-3993449904920454140</guid><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-07-11T12:07:24.378-07:00</atom:updated><title>Pilot Episode -- Hutterites</title><description>Welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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This blog is an adjunct to my podcast, "Issues of Law and Religion, in the News". &amp;nbsp;Listen to the podcast, and/or read the transcript, and feel free to comment below.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Podcast 1: The Hutterites, Workers Compensation, and the Limits of Religious Accomodation&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/h3&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;Description:&lt;/strong&gt;  The Hutterites are an Anabaptist group who live communally.  This lifestyle has allowed them to compete against private construction firms in Montana.  A new law requires the Hutterites to carry workers compensation for their members who work in construction.  The Hutterites counter that they already have provisions in their society that provide all the coverage provided by workers compensation.  The legislator who sponsored this bill says this bill is needed to provide an even playing field.  What are the Hutterites history, beliefs and practices which lead them to believe this is redundant?  What are the legal principles involved?  Who is likely to prevail in court?  Who &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; prevail, and why?  Listen, and find out.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-04/D9UCG6PG0.htm"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;News Story from Business Week&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Religion&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/4518229"&gt;Frontier Brethren: The Hutterite Experience in the American West&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/3487826"&gt;Life in a Hutterite Colony: An Outsider's Experience and Reflections on a Forgotten People in Our Midst&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;Legal Precedents:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/406/205/case.html"&gt;Wisconsin v. Yoder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/494/872/case.html"&gt;Employment Division v. Smith&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/chapter-21B"&gt;Religious Freedom Restoration Act&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/521/507/"&gt;City of Boerne v. Flores&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/508/520/case.html"&gt;Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;strong&gt;Also Recommended:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.hutterites.org/"&gt;The Official webpage of the Hutterites&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/meet-the-hutterites/"&gt;National Geographic series on the Hutterites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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