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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/atom10full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/" xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3695443</id><updated>2008-11-24T22:43:31.573-08:00</updated><title type="text">Mal's Meanderings</title><subtitle type="html">Mal Dow thinking aloud in public - about Christian living and ministry, future and emerging church, theology, philosophy, and using the Internet effectively.</subtitle><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.bethtephillah.com/weblog/blog.html" /><link rel="next" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3695443/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25" /><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.bethtephillah.com/feeds/atom.xml" /><author><name>Mal</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16675734370209809814</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>74</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><link rel="self" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/MalsMeanderings" type="application/atom+xml" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" /><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3695443.post-1795153904277265551</id><published>2008-11-20T18:42:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-20T18:46:52.158-08:00</updated><title type="text">Keeping Christ Out of the Market Place</title><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Earlier today I wrote a post about Hiding Christ from new Agers, intended for here. But, because I have too many blogs, as I discuss at &lt;a href="http://www.malcolmdow.com/"&gt;MalcolmDow .com&lt;/a&gt;, it was posted to &lt;a href="http://www.reasonablemystic.com/"&gt;A Reasonable Mystic &lt;/a&gt;by mistake. I'm interested to see what my readers there make of it. Anyway, here's what should have appeared here:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This morning I was reading "My Prayer Journal" in the &lt;a href="http://www.buv.com.au/Ministries/Witness.aspx"&gt;Victorian Baptist Witness&lt;/a&gt;. Part of the diary for Wednesday and Thursday went as follows:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Something interesting happened today. Saw Greg put 'religion' and 'new age'&lt;br /&gt;books together (in the 'new age' section). He even put the Bibles there! It&lt;br /&gt;really upset me and I was surprised at the intensity of my feelings. ...&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;Well I spoke to Greg and thank you God, he was really cool about it. It&lt;br /&gt;actually opened up some discussion about my faith. And it felt so natural&lt;br /&gt;talking about it. ... he was relieved that I could advise him on what should go&lt;br /&gt;in the 'religion' section and what should go in the 'new age' section (he didn't&lt;br /&gt;mind at all when I said they were very different).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is so much here that I could comment on - the assumed difference between religion and New Age, for example. But considering that this was an issue of the Witness devoted to exploring being a Christian in a secular workplace, I want to look at where the books should have been placed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Being married to a librarian myself I can understand the desire to have things in the right place. However, given that New Age would definitely fit the criteria for a religion I expect they wouldn't be far apart. It raises two questionsfor me. Why would we prefer to put Christian books in a place a New Ager might never look? And why put them where a Christian will never encounter the New Age books?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If we are truly interested in ministry in the marketplace, then we must not hide Jesus from those in the market, while at the same time we need to learn how those in the market think if we are to expect to impact their lives.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The depth of the secular/sacred divide for the person writing the diary might be guaged from the intensity of their feelings when the Christian and New Age books were innocently placed side by side. Should we be offended? Can't Jesus take care of himself? Where would he be found - hanging around the church or out in the market?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lots of questions. I'd like to hear some of your answers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Given that Adams is an avowed and somewhat evangelical atheist, this may seem strange. However, it is not, and I challenge any Christian with a truly open mind and a love for human kind to read or listen to him and not find something to enjoy or even love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, he will call you a 'God botherer', but I've been called far worse and lived! However, unlike his firend Richard Dawkins, he will treat you with respect, especially if you are as equally genuine in your beliefs as he is in his.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've just read the introduction to his new edition of &lt;em&gt;Adams vs God&lt;/em&gt;. This is a collection of essays from more than two decades of Adam's jounalism. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From my reading I gain the distinct impression that the sort of religion Adams is so appalled by, any genuine follower of Jesus would also reject, as I do. Let me indulge myself by quoting one passage, from pages xxiv and xxv:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;One of the problems with religious upbringing, with childhood indoctrination, is that beliefs are rarely, if ever, tested. To a large extent, most true believers are not entitled to their beliefs because they're entirely unexamined. This is painfully apparent in the letters I receive from Christians. It matters little if they're aggressive or patronising - whether they threaten me with damnation or undertake to pray for me so that I'll be more quickly propelled down the road to Damascus. These correspondents have one thing in common. They know far less about Christianity than the atheist they're writing to. Theirs is a comfortable Sunday school Christianity. They remain in the kindergarten of faith knowing nothing of biblical scholarship, of the history of the Old Testament or the contradictions of the New.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oddly, their ignorance of their professed faith makes them more confident, or at the very least more complacent. They're true believers in belief, blissfully unaware of the disagreements in the approved gospels let alone the existence of the gospels that were rejected. The essential difference between those who write to admonish and those who write to save is that some believe that every biblical word is holy and beyond challenge whereas others can see that perhaps Noah's ark will not be unearthed on Mount Ararat. But whether they've eaten the three-course meal of Christianity or have chosen to pick at the food, to go on a sort of religious diet and reject the high calories of virgin birth, bodily assumption and eternal damnation, their innocence (a kind word for their ignorance) is astonishing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've more sympathy with the unthinking than the half-hearted, whose low-cal version of faith often encroaches upon agnosticism or the turf of the atheist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, Adams isn't being original here. Jesus got there first in &lt;em&gt;Revelation 3&lt;/em&gt; with  his admonition to the church in Laodicea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where twenty years ago Adams thought that religion was in its death throes, he now seems content to hope that it will simply become reduced to some sort of historical hobby. I think that even in this he is being wildly optimistic - the real Jesus is not going to go away. Neither are the opposing forces nor the fakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, Adams does know more about Christianity than many Christians, but in common with many of them he also 'knows' and believes a lot about it that is erroneous. Having rejected God on logical grounds at the age of six, it is to be expected that he has not put himself in a position to encounter a great deal of the genuine article since then, but has certainly come across a lot of the sort of Christianity that would cause Jesus to roll over in his grave, in the unlikely event of anyone ever finding one that could hold him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Adams is a genuine believer in his own worldview, and if you'll excuse my use of an old cliche, this is one which takes a great deal more faith to hold on to than being a follower of a living person that one has actually met and conversed with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Besides, according to Adams, and I believe him, we have him to thank for the formation of the Family First party, following the challenge he put to a group of Pentecostal leaders that Jesus was not at all conservative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And even God was apparently impressed enough by him to strike his plane with lightning twice while flying over the Vatican. At least, that's Adam's interpretation of the event (surprising for an atheist, even if tongue in cheek). Personally I'd advocate a far different supernatural and more troublemaking source for those particular atmospheric volts and amps.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Phillip Adams might feel justified if he included me in his list of the patronising, if he bothered to think of me at all, but that is not how I feel towards him. Yes, I believe he is wrong about many things, but I would not try to change his thinking unless he asked me to. What I will do is to continue to enjoy listening to and reading a very erudite man, and recommend that you do also.
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Theology has been made to appear to them like an obscure, esoteric branch of philosophy that is beyond their reach and not very relevant to their lives anyway. As long as they dutifully subscribe to the party line then all will be well with their world. If they should question it too persistently then the accusations of backsliding will flow quickly and frighten them back into the loyal fold.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not unlike voting for a particular political party for the important reasons that your parents always did so, or 'everyone' in your town does, or your favourite TV commentator's disparaging comments about the other parties are the funniest or wittiest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It also reminds me of the Middle Ages when, as long as the priest said the magic words of the Mass at one end of the parish church, the whole town could, at the same time, engage in the village market at the other end, and all was well, and God's wrath was appeased for another day. No-one actually had to take part in the rituals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sadnesses in this scenario are immediately obvious to me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;That leaders who 'understand' theology would so easily use it as a means of control and self-agrandisement.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;That the average Christian should think so little of the need to actively engage in the discovery of who is this God they 'worship'.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Why is it that when the &lt;strong&gt;most&lt;/strong&gt; important thing in all of our lives is the development of intimacy with Jesus, do we think it is OK to delegate this to someone else? And whose kingdom are we leaders really building? Are we for Paul, or Apollos, or Calvin, or Arminius, or Luther, or ..., or are we for Jesus?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, theological movements &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; spring up for often good reasons. However, why are we generally so black and white about them? And why, once born, are such movements so hard to kill again? Was Jesus a Calvinist? Was he a dispensationalist? Was he Reformed? Charismatic? Was he even a Christian? (Now there's an oxymoron for you!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a Baptist pastor I am almost expected to be of a Reformed doctrinal persuasion. However, the more I learn about what it means to be an intimate follower of Jesus, and one of those favoutites that I'm told my Father God doesn't have, the more some of the tenets of Calvinism make me extremely uneasy. In particular, their implications for the nature and character of God make me shudder. No, I'm afraid that much I once might have admired about Calvin is long gone the way of many other long cherished doctrines and heroes - into the heresy bucket. If someone said about me some of the things some sincere and well-meaning Reformed theologians say about the nature of their God, I would be very upset - and rightly so!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, bucking the status quo is not without cost. For example, I had been considering becoming an editor for &lt;a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Main_Page"&gt;Theopedia&lt;/a&gt;. However, when I read the statement of faith I would be expected to sign I could not in all conscience do so. Most of it is fine, but not all. This is rather disappointing, because it is a great project, but I guess I'll live. At least I won't be burnt at the stake or put down a hole and pelted with stones!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lest you also think I am anti-intellectual, or anti-theology, nothing could be more untrue. I love learning, and have invested a large part of myself into theology. I love to teach, and have engaged fully in a career as an academic and researcher, but I am constained at all times to make sure I am teaching life, not death. There are many things in all of the 'isms' and 'ologies' that cause me disquiet, and even horror at times, so much so that I would rather be known as a follower of Jesus than be mis-recognised as one of what has become known today by the title of 'Christian'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm sure I will write more about this, here and elsewhere.
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We understood it then as a mnemonic device to help us remember the equipment needed, and each piece was generally explained in terms of its function. However, as with any such approach, it easily degenerates into a ritual, perhaps with magical overtones.&amp;nbsp;The implication is that if&amp;nbsp;the armour is not put on religiously each morning then the person is at risk.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;Such a ritualistic approach to life is common in religious people, but is a far cry from the way Jesus and his early followers lived. It betrays a lack of trust in God.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;So, what was Paul intending when he outlined each piece of the Christian&amp;rsquo;s equipment in this fashion? Let&amp;rsquo;s read the passage:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;&amp;ldquo;Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil&amp;rsquo;s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm, then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.&amp;rdquo; Ephesians 6:10&amp;ndash;18 (NIV)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Clearly, Paul has in mind defence against a spiritual enemy here. What is the principle nature of this enemy&amp;rsquo;s&amp;nbsp;attack? One of the principle ways a demon interacts with a believer is by suggesting fears, doubts and lies into their mind. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;How, then, is a person to resist such subversive suggestions? Certainly not by erecting some magic mind barrier called &amp;lsquo;the helmet of salvation&amp;rsquo;. The defence against such attacks is to have a sure and certain knowledge of your salvation, how that salvation was attained, and what that salvation means for your future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;The intent of such an attack is to either make a believer unsure of either the certainty, or the effectiveness, of their salvation. Can Jesus really keep them safe if they take a risk? Or will he even care whether they fall or not? Are they really saved? Such doubts limit the effectiveness of a believer&amp;rsquo;s work for the Kingdom of Light. Instead, they will be focussed on their own state, trying to find ways to strengthen their walk, engaging in disciplines, memorising and quoting verses, obsessed with works, going from one conference, crusade or evangelist to another, seeking reassurance. What a waist of time &amp;ndash; which is exactly what the devil wants!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;To &amp;lsquo;take the helmet of salvation&amp;rsquo;, then, really means to first make sure you are saved, and once that is settled for ever, get a good grasp of what it means, so that when the doubts come you have a ready answer with which to refute them. What did Jesus say? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;ldquo;My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father&amp;rsquo;s hand. I and the Father are one.&amp;rdquo; John 10:27&amp;ndash;30 (NIV)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did you hear that! You can not be destroyed! This makes it possible for a believer, knowing this,&amp;nbsp;to live in faith, which might be translated as&amp;nbsp;&amp;lsquo;taking a risk&amp;rsquo;. If you are a believer, then whatever happens, whatever the enemy throws at you, no matter how scary or uncomfortable it gets, you are safe. This knowledge is the &amp;lsquo;helmet of salvation&amp;rsquo;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;We could make similar examples for each of the pieces of armour. How then should we understand these items? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;with the belt of truth buckled around your waist&amp;rdquo;&lt;/em&gt; == Be truthful in all things and at all times, otherwise the enemy will embarass you when you least expect it.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;with the breastplate of righteousness in place&amp;rdquo;&lt;/em&gt; == Keep short accounts with God and others. Always do right. If you sin, confess and repent. Do not give the enemy a place to stand in your life.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace&amp;rdquo;&lt;/em&gt; == Be ready at all times to be able to give an account of your faith. But do it in love, not stirring up arguments but demonstrating a heart that is at peace with God and man.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;take up the shield of faith&amp;rdquo;&lt;/em&gt; == Don&amp;rsquo;t shrink back from anything the Lord asks you to do. Be faithful to him, and instantly obedient. Otherwise, the enemy will accuse you about your failure.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;take the helmet of salvation&amp;rdquo;&lt;/em&gt; == Be sure of your salvation and what it really means for you: that you cannot be destroyed, nor subverted by the enemy, unless you choose to&amp;nbsp;turn your back on salvation. And even then, Jesus will pursue you!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God&amp;rdquo;&lt;/em&gt; == This is the only weapon you possess. Things are brought into being, or destroyed, by words. Being in the image of God, who created with a word, our words too have power. Of course, the word of God includes a sound knowledge of the Bible, however, this verse would be better translated with a capital &amp;lsquo;W&amp;rsquo; for &amp;lsquo;Word&amp;rsquo;. The Word of God is Jesus, and every word that comes out of his mouth. It is speaking under the direction of the Holy Spirit that has true power. Even the devil can quote scripture (see Luke 4), but we can speak the Word of God!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;ldquo;and pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests&amp;rdquo;&lt;/em&gt; == I believe this is related to the previous point, giving an example of speaking in the Spirt. It is prayers motivated by the Spirit of Jesus that are the most certainly answered. But do not stop praying. Just as you sleep in your armour, so to does a believer pray without ceasing. Haven&amp;rsquo;t you ever woken in the morning to find yourself praying in tongues? I have!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;One last point. I have heard people say that they put on the armour first thing every morning. My question to them is, why did you take it off the night before? Did you spend the night not being truthful, or righteous, or a peacemaker, or faithful? Weren&amp;rsquo;t you saved while you were asleep? Don&amp;rsquo;t you sleep with you sword at your side ready and alert at a moments&amp;rsquo; notice to spring into action? The waking up speaking in tongues I referred to above is an example of this. My spirit will be alert to any prompting of the Spirit, even when my mind might be daydreaming, asleep, or even unconscious or in a coma.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is while we are asleep that our mind is least alert, but our spirit is wide awake. The forces of darkness love these night hours. Why do you have bad dreams? Of course, this is the time when the Holy Spirit is also most able to get past our mental barricades and speak into our heart. He speaks to us in dreams and visions when we are least able to add our mental &amp;ldquo;But &amp;hellip;!&amp;rdquo;. You need to go to sleep in the assurance of your safety with Jesus, and that he will minister to you while you rest. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you must have a sleep ritual to reassure you, rather than putting on the armour in the morning, leave it on all the time and go to sleep with the last thing in your thoughts being a prayer of love and thanks to Father God for the adventure of the day, and a request for his presence and angels to guard you as you enter the darkness. Just as Jesus, when he was about to descend into the very darkest realm, said, &amp;ldquo;Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.&amp;rdquo; (Luke 23:46, NIV), how much more sure we can we be&amp;nbsp;of his holding us while we sleep.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="bjtags"&gt;Tags: &lt;a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/spiritual+armour"&gt;spiritual+armour&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/spiritual+armor"&gt;spiritual+armor&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Ephesians"&gt;Ephesians&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/spiritual+warfare"&gt;spiritual+warfare&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Christian+living"&gt;Christian+living&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Holy+Spirit"&gt;Holy+Spirit&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/spiritual+living"&gt;spiritual+living&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/spirituality"&gt;spirituality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Sometimes a great deal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Through &lt;a href="http://www.bethtephillah.com/" title="Beth Tephillah Ministry Centre"&gt;Beth Tephillah Ministry Centre&lt;/a&gt; we come into contact with many people working and ministering in the area described variously as Christian counselling, prayer ministry, healing ministry, Theophostic ministry, prayer counselling, and other terms. Often there is no problem because those involved know what they themselves mean when they use their name for what they do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, increasingly, different ministries are intersecting as Jesus breaks down the boundaries that have for so long separated us. This is wonderful. It is an outworking of what Jesus means when he prays, "Father, ... I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one." (John 17:21,22)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;He goes on to speak more about this glory that is revealed through the oneness of Jesus with the Father and us with them. And what is this glory? Surely a part of it is our doing the work of Jesus on earth - bringing freedom to the captives, sight to the blind, life to the dead, and so on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Di and I have just spent another week with Peter and Heather Toth, of &lt;a href="http://www.anazao.com.au/" title="Anazao"&gt;Anazao&lt;/a&gt;, on a course in Geelong on ministry to the dissociated. During our discussion the problem of what to call what we do arose again. Let me give you some history.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;When we became involved with Wholeness through Christ Ministries in the early 90s, we were learning to do, and were doing, "Prayer Counselling" This was a mixture of various tools as taught by John and Paula Sandford of &lt;a href="http://www.elijahhouse.org/" title="Elijah House"&gt;Elijah House&lt;/a&gt;, Carol Thompson's "Possess the Land" teaching, Denis and Rita Bennett's pioneering work in healing of emotions, and numerous others. It was Christian Counselling, but with a strong emphasis on reliance on the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and the knowledge that it was Jesus who heals, not us. It was Christian Counselling in its true sense - not secular counselling done by Christians, as so often Christian counselling is practiced, even when it has a spiritual element added, but counselling done by the true Counsellor - the Holy Spirit - with us providing the human presence for him to work through.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;After some years an uneasiness set in about use of the word "counselling", mainly, I believe, because we were not training counsellors in the accepted sense of the word, who could be held professionally accountable for what they did with a "client". We were really facilitating the interaction of the client with Jesus, plus restoration of what should have been taught in the church in basic discipleship training, but generally wasn't. It was "Christianity 101"! So, because it involved asking God to work, we began calling it "Prayer Ministry" instead of "Prayer Counselling".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some 10 years ago we began to encounter people who had trained using Ed Smith's "&lt;a href="http://www.theophostic.com/displaycommon.cfm?an=1" title="Theophostic Prayer Ministry"&gt;Theophostic&lt;/a&gt;" approach to ministry. As we worked with them we discovered that they generally knew nothing of prayer ministry except Theophostic. In fact, they often thought the word "Theophostic" was synonymous with "Prayer Counselling". They would ask "Have you done Theophistic?" and would be mystified when we told them that we or our team members had done "Wholeness through Christ Ministries", "Elijah House", "Vineyard's Equipping the Saints", "VMTC", "Servants in Benloch", "&lt;a href="http://www.ellelministries.eu/" title="Ellel ministries International"&gt;Ellel&lt;/a&gt;", "Possess the Land", "Charles Kraft's Deep Healing", "Come out Be Free", "&lt;a href="http://www.sonrisefamilyministries.org.au/" title="Sonrise Family Ministries"&gt;Sonrise Family Ministries&lt;/a&gt;", "Beth Tephillah Ministries", "Restoration", "&lt;a href="http://www.healingrooms.com/" title="Healing Rooms"&gt;Healing Rooms&lt;/a&gt;", or a host of other training and ministry systems.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our first encounter with Theophostic, which simply means to bring God's light into the situation, was the day after a session in our own Beth Tephillah course, where we had taken a person to a deep seated lie and asked Jesus to reveal the truth to the person, after having disposed of the demons getting in the way. Someone loaned us Ed Smith's basic video course and the following day we began to watch it, to find it was exactly what we had been teaching and doing the previous day, and in fact, for some years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Theophistic is excellent, especially as a concise systematisation of the steps in this form of ministry. However, the name has caused us some problems, not only because of its unfortunate similarity in sound to the occult science of "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy" title="Theosophy"&gt;Theosophy&lt;/a&gt;", but more because of the isolation of many of its practitioners from knowledge of other, and older, streams of healing ministry. Personally, I believe that Ed Smith is largely to blame for this situation because of the very proprietorial stance he has taken on this teaching. However, he is not alone in this approach. For example, we love the teaching of those real pioneers in all things prophetic and healing, the Sandfords. Yet, at least as it is practiced in Australia, there is talk of an "Elijah House Way" that must be followed if someone comes to an EH graduate for ministry. Other ministries have similar restrictions. Our approach at Beth Tephillah is the one originally taught to us by the Sandfords themselves - add everything to your toolbox. Bring it out when needed and put it away again. Each time allow the Holy Spirit to tell you what he wants you to do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;The freedom that comes with this approach is wonderful. There are no formulas to follow - you must depend on Jesus. It also allows you to be adaptable to new teaching. I remember in our early training by Wholeness through Christ Ministries, we were sternly injuncted to "not do deliverance the way Charles Kraft does it - he talks to demons!" There was a certainty that because demons are liars by nature you cannot allow them to give you information. You will be deceived. In 1995 Charles Kraft came to Australia to do some seminars for &lt;a href="http://tabor.edu.au/" title="Tabor College"&gt;Tabor College&lt;/a&gt;. WTCM took advantage of his presence to arrange a small seminar for our staff, at which Chuck was able to demonstrate, by carrying out deliverance on our staff director, what he actually did. It was so exciting to see his ability and authority to make the demons reveal truth, especially about the lies that they had been telling the person, while all the time forbidding the demons to cause any discomfort or embarrassment to the person, that we all immediately became enthusiastic supporters of this way of doing ministry, and have used and taught it ever since. Chuck, like others such as Peter Wagner and Jack Deare, had their conservativism broken earlier by encounter with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wimber" title="John Wimber"&gt;John Wimber&lt;/a&gt; and his demonstration that supernatural healing really did still happen today. I still remember the excitement of the Vineyard "Equipping the Saints" conferences in Melbourne, and "Doin' the Stuff" as John used to call it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;We have had similar experiences with other ministry movements, such as the misnamed "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_blessing" title="Toronto Blessing"&gt;Toronto Blessing&lt;/a&gt;", for example. At the founding meeting of what was to become &lt;a href="http://www.arma.org.au/ifm/" title="Intercessors for Melbourne"&gt;Intercessors for Melbourne&lt;/a&gt;, Diana and I encountered this laughing, falling, rolling, shaking phenomenon, exactly one year before it broke out in Torronto and spread to the rest of the world. As happened at other places, the Lord told me he was going to be doing this soon and that we should reassure people when it happened that it was of Him. Once the Lord released it, it rapidly became an opportunity for renewal, deliverance and healing in many centres and churches. Although the initial excitement has dimminished, these opportunities continue. But the fear and criticism of this movement have also continued. Some said it was God, some were adamant that it was of the flesh, others that it was demons. I still don't see why this was such an issue - all were correct, it was God, the flesh, and the devil! Whenever God shows up in power, our fleshly fears and desires become revealed, and any demons around come under pressure and are exposed. It was a wonderful opportunity to deal with them, not to run away because it offended our theological sensibilities. It was meant to upset the applecart of a church that had become dry and stale - that was the point of it!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do I mention this example now? Because, this too is now commonly called "Prayer Ministry". It is typically carried out after a conference or church meeting, up the front near the stage. Perhaps, on reflection, this really &lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt; prayer ministry, because all it asks of the "minister" is either laying-on or laying-off of hands (as we used to do it to avoid charges of pushing people over), and asking the Holy Spirit to come on the person in power. And he did! I've had the joy of simply looking at people from the stage and they would fall, and of walking around a conference centre and see people fall as I went past. Yes, we encountered flesh, and demons. But we saw a lot more of the Lord. There were times that I was standing behind someone to catch them, and if they resisted they would be leaning back at an impossible angle and not falling, while I would be struggling to stay on my feet in case they did. The flow of the power of God's presence was often so overwhelming that the catchers reached the floor first.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Over the past two years Diana and I and our team have reached another such watershed in ministry. This has been brought about by our encounter with Peter and Heather Toth of Anazao. Their approach to ministry to sufferers of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder" title="Dissociate Identity Disorder"&gt;Dissociate Identity Disorder&lt;/a&gt; and to victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse is revolutionary. Not that others have not been ministering and teaching in this area before them, but they have found a new model for understanding dissociation that acords much better with reality than that of previous ministries and secular psychiatric thought, and through 1000s of hours of counselling have become effective in freeing people quickly and completely from dissociation and true SRA. We had previously looked at how others handle these situations and found them so unsatisfactory that we decided to leave them alone. Now, using Anazao's model and methods, we are having real success in quickly setting people free, and it is impacting our approach to other areas of ministry.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, the problem of what to call what we do comes up again. Anazao use Theophostic ministry to deal effectively with demonic interference, because Peter learned to do this from Ed Smith. Of course, Ed Smith does not like Anazao's approach to dissociation and SRA, but that is another matter - Theophostic works in other situations! Yesterday as I discussed with Peter his misgivings about our use of the term "Prayer Ministry" it became clear that he did not use the term the same way as we did. He was thinking more of the "up the front of the church" style of ministry, and his observation of our use of a separate intercession team to feed in encouragement on a sheet after the ministry session seemed to him as if our ministry was asking God to speak through the minister to the client.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can understand such misgivings. Anazao, as do we, prefers Jesus to deal directly with the client. The ministry team is to facilitate this process, not to be directive. Actually, I think we might even emphasise this more sometimes, because Anazao also does far more of what we would call "counselling" than we do. We try to minimise the giving of advice or instruction as far as possible. This is not a criticism of Anazao, just an outworking of the fact that they are counsellors where we are not, and although counselling is a necessary part of healing ministry, we have generally prefered to separate it from the prayer ministry. In practice, however, I have found myself liable to counsel rather more than many other prayer ministers of my aquaintance, because it reflects my particular spiritual giftings as prophet/teacher and the Holy Spirit's role as "Counsellor". I expect that as we embrace, and are trained to use, more of the revelations that are being given to the ministry today through Anazao and others, we will see the development of a more rounded approach to healing, just as happened in the past through the Sandfords, Wimbers, Krafts, etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;A few years ago, when there was a change in the structure of the &lt;a href="http://www.prayerministriesnetwork.com/" title="Healing Prayer Ministries Network"&gt;Prayer Ministries Network&lt;/a&gt; we changed the name to Healing Prayer Ministries Network, to better reflect that as a network we were welcoming of different expressions of healing ministry apart from what we had mostly come up through. Of course, this only increases the ambiquity, as "Prayer Ministry" or "Healing Prayer Ministry" now even more deliberately includes many different expressions of ministry. This is healthy, because we can learn from and support each other, and refer people with different needs to that which is most appropriate or available to them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;But, it leaves ministries such as Beth Tephillah Ministries, and others, with a problem - What do we call what we do? I throw this out as a challenge for discussion. I would love to hear your ideas on this, either through comments in this blog, or by email through the HPMN network, or directly to me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="zoundry_bw_tags"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;!-- Tag links generated by Zoundry Blog Writer. 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The organized chuch is unappealing, while a fellowship with a loose, unorganized, non-institutional appearance stands a chance of attracting, or at least not frightening them. I think Jesus would probably find more of a welcome among such a group as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the world of the organized church, loose ‘home group’ churches become invisible. Beth Tephillah, even though it is more like a home group in its functioning, and is thus often relatively invisible, is still a constituted Baptist Church. Thus it can bridge this postmodern version of the visibility divide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just reread David Kosoff’s story, as told by ‘Jethro’, an old Temple worker, of the discovery of the child Jesus by Simeon and Anna. Here, in the midst of the central symbol of organized Jewry, right at the focus of their religious world, God was doing something which was about to change forever the whole of history and the entire universe. And only a handful of people: a disgraced virgin, a kind hearted young man, a bunch of common shepherds, a few astrologers, an old priest, and a widowed prophetess, had any idea that it was happening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The temple was the most visible expression of Jewish religious life. The Messiah was the great hope for salvation eagerly awaited by all of God’s people. Yet hardly anyone noticed his arrival in that place. As this obviously poor couple brought their baby to be recognized in the Temple and dedicated to God, the world changed forever, but ‘Church’ life continued unchanged!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is God still doing this today? Is it really in the great church institutions and denominations, and with the powerful and recognized religious leaders that Jesus is bringing in the Kingdom of God?&lt;br /&gt;Or, is it advancing, virtually unnoticed, among those who are considered to be nothing in the world’s and the church’s eyes; those who struggle to fit in to a system that spends so much energy upon itself and so little on those God most cares about - those who give up on the great ideas of man and return again to ask of Jesus what he &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; wants of them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could the ‘church in the cracks’, as I have fondly called it for years, be today a more accurate expression of the small band of nervous risk takers that Jesus gathered around him for a few years, and then sent out to win the world. He sent them out, not with great systems and organizations, but by telling one or two friends the story of Jesus and his salvation, around a fire, or over a meal, or at a roadside stop, or in a prison, or beside a sickbed, or during a break at work, or just over the back fence!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How much evidence do we find in the Bible for the large institution being what Jesus had in mind? I don’t see much. I do see the group of friends, sharing everything they had, suffering persecution together, and fearlessly confronting the fallen world around them with a message of hope:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The Messiah has come – God is with us! Emmanuel! Hallelujah!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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